Surprise: ObamaCare will likely increase food stamp enrollment

posted at 8:41 am on November 6, 2013 by Morgen Richmond

Once all of the new ObamaCare mandates, regulations, and taxes are fully priced into the healthcare market we may all be lining up for government butter and cheese, but that’s not the story here. No, apparently the multi-million dollar ObamaCare marketing campaign signing up new Medicaid recipients by the millions will come with an unexpected bonus for fans of the entitlement state. Lots and lots of people finding out for the first time that in addition to free healthcare they are also eligible for a shiny new EBT card. Via Politico.

The Obama administration has ordered a study to determine whether the Affordable Care Act, by increasing the number of people eligible for Medicaid, will also increase the number of people enrolled in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program based on how states enroll people.

The outcome of the study could show an increase of 3 percent to 5 percent in food stamp recipients in some states from people who were already eligible for SNAP benefits but had not enrolled in the program — which could translate to millions or even billions more in federal spending, Greg Mills, a senior fellow at the Urban Institute who is conducting the study, told POLITICO.

“So in percentage terms, it’s not going to be very large, but we’re talking about a very large program,” said Mills, who is investigating the effects of the health care law on SNAP on behalf of the Department of Agriculture’s Food Nutrition Service, the agency that monitors food stamps.

How large? Well, we spent over $78 billion on the program last year so the expected increase would be something in the range of $1.5 to $4 billion. Which, surprise, would go a long way towards offsetting the cuts the GOP thought they had won in the recent budget deal. But here’s what I want to know: is a study on this really necessary? With the ObamaCare enrollment deadline looming, seems to me the bills for any new SNAP enrollees will start rolling in soon enough. Why doesn’t the White House commission something more useful instead? Like a study forecasting the number of employers likely to drop insurance coverage in the next couple of years, or how many part-time employees will have their hours reduced due to the employer mandate. The White House says there is no data to support these “anecdotal” claims, so let’s hop to it guys – prove us wrong.

Of course it wouldn’t be a food stamp story in a liberal rag without a quote from someone praising the proactive effort to sign-up even more people, and Politico doesn’t disappoint. I’m all for a helping hand-up to those in need but is it too much to expect we at least wait until they’ve made a conscious decision to reach out for help first? If our modern day Jeff Spicoli’s are going to get free check-ups now to go along with their sushi, I say we at least make them get off the couch before we sign ‘em up.


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Well if your goal is to ultimately have everyone dependent on the State, then this is a feature, not a bug.

rbj on November 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

How about a work program for the capable who receive any Fed benefit—have them clean up national parks, pick up litter along Interstates, etc to offset their SNAP card and Medicaid…let’s see how long they want those benefits when they have to get off the couch and change out of their PJs before noon…

hillsoftx on November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

It’s the tie-in between Obamacare enrollment and voter registration that requires more scrutiny. The system is set up to capture every parasite possible. Including the illegals.

Happy Nomad on November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

FREE SHIT ARMY™ HOOAH!

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

For every dollar a person receives in food stamps, Pelosi said that $1.79 is put back into the economy. The U.S. Department of Agriculture cites an even higher figure of $1.84.

“It is the biggest bang for the buck when you do food stamps and unemployment insurance. The biggest bang for the buck,” she said.

We are dealing with evil morons.

Flange on November 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

How about a work program for the capable who receive any Fed benefit—have them clean up national parks, pick up litter along Interstates, etc to offset their SNAP card and Medicaid…let’s see how long they want those benefits when they have to get off the couch and change out of their PJs before noon…

hillsoftx on November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

And let’s change from an EBT card that looks like any other debit card. It should be 5×7 and bright pink. With a large chunk of wood attached to it like a gas station restroom key.

Happy Nomad on November 6, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Cripe

cmsinaz on November 6, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Obama advertises more and better stuff for more people … but who pays? Someone has to pay. Economies of scale? Don’t make me laugh.

It’s like the Sat Nite Live skit years ago, about the bank that did nothing but make change. Four quarters for a dollar. That kind of thing. When asked how they made money, the answer was … “Volume”. Except, in Obama’s schemes, the government takes their cut, so the mo’ volume, the less money there is.

ObamaCare, affordable care, err, affordable insurance? No. It’s about the “subsidies”. I didn’t know squat about “subsidies” until recently. It’s just another entitlement program. Just a step away from single payer. It all stinks.

Pelosi was on Charlie Rose last night, Rose who said, wasn’t she really behind much of the writing of ObamaCare, so that people call it NancyCare? Oh, Pelose LOVES ObamaCare. “It’s great”, she says, though she would have preferred single payer.

Paul-Cincy on November 6, 2013 at 8:53 AM

If our new mandatory health insurance is going to cause more people to get their food off the backs of the productive, is it too much to ask that food stamps only apply toward the purchase of meat, vegetables, fruit, milk, and other nutrional food and NOT junk food or soda?

Bitter Clinger on November 6, 2013 at 8:54 AM

For every dollar a person receives in food stamps, Pelosi said that $1.79 is put back into the economy. The U.S. Department of Agriculture cites an even higher figure of $1.84.

“It is the biggest bang for the buck when you do food stamps and unemployment insurance. The biggest bang for the buck,” she said.

We are dealing with evil morons.

Flange on November 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

It’s like Rush says about this kind of stuff: If that were true, why not put everybody on food stamps.

Bitter Clinger on November 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Next up Amigos…Amnesty

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Where might this be going…

“Thank you for enrolling. Would you like to register to vote?”

“Thank you for registering to vote. Would you like to apply for EBT assistance.”

“Thank you for applying for EBT assistance. Would you like to apply for the DREAM Program for illegal residents?”

“Thank you for enrolling for Afordable Care, EBT, and DREAM. Would you like to join our special volunteer organization called the Select Timely Organization for Regional Management (STORM) Troopers?”

apostic on November 6, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Why doesn’t the White House commission something more useful instead? Like a study forecasting the number of employers likely to drop insurance coverage in the next couple of years, or how many part-time employees will have their hours reduced due to the employer mandate.

I think the rule is that if you are on ANY govt assistance, you qualify for food stamps.

Well if your goal is to ultimately have everyone dependent on the State, then this is a feature, not a bug. rbj on November 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Of course.

I’m all for a helping hand-up to those in need but is it too much to expect we at least wait until they’ve made a conscious decision to reach out for help first?

Ah yes, the “conservative” application of statism.

Akzed on November 6, 2013 at 8:59 AM

We are dealing with evil morons.

Flange on November 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

We are dealing with Evil Liars who are demoralizing the nation.

Bread & Circuses.

Bread & Circuses supplied by the entrenched aristocratic classes propped up the empire(s) for a long time.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:02 AM

America has become a SOCIALIST nation.

PappyD61 on November 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

This food stamp expansion is good since one out of six people in America are starving. At least one in six is what the local news channel tells me. But the funny thing is that I keep looking trying to meet someone who is starving in America, because I want to understand their experience of starving in a nation in which food stamps are thrown out like candy at a Mardi Gras parade. I just never seem to be able to encounter an actually starving person. You would think with one in six Americans starving this would be easy.

thuja on November 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Hmm, increased food stamp participation, instant voter registration, marriage penalty for dual incomes, etc., etc., etc.

A policy crafted in Hell.

Cleombrotus on November 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM

….let’s just DESTROY this Country!

KOOLAID2 on November 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM

One has to admit it, Obama’s plan of total destruction is all coming together.

OldEnglish on November 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Everyone loves Ryan a big dick that lies to you everyday and blows sunshine up you backside while grabbing your hair”

Electrongod on November 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM

We need to stop saying that food stamps are a great thing. The program as it is now is terrible.

jhffmn on November 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM

This is weird, I happen to know of a single woman with three kids who just got her $500 a month food stamp benefit cancelled because she makes just over $19K annually now. Seriously, from $500 to zero, sounds like she might be the last person in the country that doesn’t qualify.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM

thuja on November 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM

How about EBT card carriers? Met any of them? Met many who are actually incapable of holding down a job?

Cleombrotus on November 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

The Democrats have created a permanent underclass over the past half century for whom food stamps are part of everyday life. But for people who consider themselves to be in the middle class, it’s going to be both humiliating and infuriating for Team Obama to grab a big chunk of their disposable income through the Affordable Health Care Act and then throw them an EBT card as a consolation prize.

For the people who are more likely to vote to begin with who like to think they’re on the track to upward mobility, telling them their status in life under Obama has now basically dropped to the level of a welfare recipient is unlikely to win over anyone with any sort of work ethic. They’d rather keep and spend the money they’ve earned and not send it off on higher quarterly health care payments and then wait for Uncle Sugar to give them a debt card booby prize, so this isn’t likely to be a winning strategy by the White House to quiet anger over ObamaCare.

jon1979 on November 6, 2013 at 9:25 AM

For every dollar a person receives in food stamps, Pelosi said that $1.79 is put back into the economy. The U.S. Department of Agriculture cites an even higher figure of $1.84.

“It is the biggest bang for the buck when you do food stamps and unemployment insurance. The biggest bang for the buck,” she said.

We are dealing with evil morons.

Flange on November 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Hmm, no info on how much is taken out of the economy to get that $1 in food stamps. Even if $1.84 is put into the economy for every $1, something tells me that the $1.84 put in is at the expense of at least $2+ taken out because of taxes need to fund that $1 worth of food stamps.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Lots and lots of people finding out for the first time that in addition to free healthcare they are also eligible for a shiny new EBT card.

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I think I’ll apply. If I qualify, it’ll just help the LiB effort, right?

ExpressoBold on November 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Of course… Everything about any democrat program is to increase the number of parasites living at the producers expense… The communist party can only win when the maximum number of welfare people vote for them… The communists own their existence to the welfare people…

mnjg on November 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM

I think I’ll apply. If I qualify, it’ll just help the LiB effort, right?

ExpressoBold on November 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM

….according to San Fran Nan…you will be the ‘best thing’…for the economy!

KOOLAID2 on November 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM

This food stamp expansion is good since one out of six people in America are starving. At least one in six is what the local news channel tells me. But the funny thing is that I keep looking trying to meet someone who is starving in America, because I want to understand their experience of starving in a nation in which food stamps are thrown out like candy at a Mardi Gras parade. I just never seem to be able to encounter an actually starving person. You would think with one in six Americans starving this would be easy.

thuja on November 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Try EBAY…The starving sell their EBT’s on that site.

If you want a personal interactive experience…try the liquor store.

If you want a diversity interactive experience…try the ports or borders cause the international set send or transport containers filled with stuff to their families back home.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Welcome to the U.S.S.A.

Oh, and just because you’re probably expecting it…

Wow, who could have seen this coming?

Chris of Rights on November 6, 2013 at 9:49 AM

This is weird, I happen to know of a single woman with three kids who just got her $500 a month food stamp benefit cancelled because she makes just over $19K annually now. Seriously, from $500 to zero, sounds like she might be the last person in the country that doesn’t qualify.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM

This is The Working Poor

I mentioned this term on another thread.

This term is Gubmint speak for a sub group of the workingclass.

Democrats use this term to win elections…and once they win elections they use this term to disqualify applicants for the empty promises they gave them.

They’ve been doing this for decades.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM

In the mean time they are stalking the elderly in S. Florida to get them on the signed up. What a world!

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Don’t 80% of food stamp recipients have flatscreen TVs, Xbox, air conditioning, microwave, refrigerator, and all other major appliances?

nazo311 on November 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM

It will also increase the amount of food stamps a person receives. Insurance premiums can be deducted from income when calculating income eligibility for the SNAP program.

bopbottle on November 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM

And then there is this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_izYhdehY

nazo311 on November 6, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Forget the USSA, we are on the way to becoming Cuba. This is just what Castro did to the people of that country. He took over their health care and rationed food supply. This is how he managed to stay in power for 60 years. He also had neighborhood minders who got an extra portion of food for spying on their neighbors and reporting to the state. Russia came in and took their sugar refineries and moved them to the motherland. They lost their biggest industry. Ours is oil and coal, see what the socialists want to do to that, all the while dangling a shiny bright electric car in or faces. Putting our faith in a govt to take care of us instead of God has brought down many a people and countries.

Kissmygrits on November 6, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Don’t 80% of food stamp recipients have flatscreen TVs, Xbox, air conditioning, microwave, refrigerator, and all other major appliances?

nazo311 on November 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Food stamp recipients have to keep their liquid assets under $2k, which encourages people to spend on small luxuries rather than to try to build toward a more secure financial position.

theperfecteconomist on November 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM

In the mean time they are stalking the elderly in S. Florida to get them on the signed up. What a world!

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Fairly predictable though.

When people are scared they are easily manipulated…and nothing scares people so much as losing their homes and food on the table.

Democrats are experts at exploiting that fear and binding the fearful into voting blocks…They have the FDR savior model afterall and Obama is determined to outdo FDR.

What we will see is more and more suburbanites become familiar with the term “Working Poor” because the unemployment will run out and the EBT’s won’t do much.

It won’t help if Conservatives lump all the Po’ together as druggies and slum mothers either cause the Working Poor will reject that class distinction.

It’s gonna get ugly in a lot of places.

I’m glad I live in Texas.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Food stamp recipients have to keep their liquid assets under $2k, which encourages people to spend on small luxuries rather than to try to build toward a more secure financial position.

theperfecteconomist on November 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM

That is true.

Gubmint looks into the bank accounts and the paystubs if they’re working.

In Texas the review is every 90 days and you have to enroll in Workforce Commission.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Of course… Everything about any democrat program is to increase the number of parasites living at the producers expense… The communist party can only win when the maximum number of welfare people vote for them… The communists own their existence to the welfare people…

mnjg on November 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM

The UK went through this for decades after WWII.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 10:21 AM

How about a work program for the capable who receive any Fed benefit—have them clean up national parks, pick up litter along Interstates, etc to offset their SNAP card and Medicaid…let’s see how long they want those benefits when they have to get off the couch and change out of their PJs before noon…

hillsoftx on November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

When Giuliani did that in New York City for city welfare benefits, on Day One about a third of the trough-suckers simply didn’t show up and were taken off the benefit list.

slickwillie2001 on November 6, 2013 at 10:22 AM

….according to San Fran Nan…you will be the ‘best thing’…for the economy!

KOOLAID2 on November 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM

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YAY !!!!!!

ExpressoBold on November 6, 2013 at 11:18 AM

This will be the new excuse for the insurance debacle: so what if you have to pay more, we’ll give you free food!!

PattyJ on November 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM

At what point do the Chinese just say: “no thanks, we’ll spend our dollars buying oil from the Saudis and cars and planes from the Europeans rather than loan them to you deadbeats.”

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 11:21 AM

When Giuliani did that in New York City for city welfare benefits, on Day One about a third of the trough-suckers simply didn’t show up and were taken off the benefit list.

slickwillie2001 on November 6, 2013 at 10:22 AM

That’s because they really lived in Jersey. They vote for Christie.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 11:23 AM

People on food stamps are also elilgible for an obamaphone….

People on Medicaid are also elilgible for an obamaphone…

People on Section 8 are also elilgible for an obamaphone…

etc., etc., etc.

ITguy on November 6, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Keep

Obama

In

Preznit

!!!

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 2:20 PM

These days chains are not forged from iron but from EBT cards. Once you get one, they own you.

schmuck281 on November 7, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Surprise: ObamaCare will likely increase food stamp enrollment

Alternative headline: ObamaCare Puts More People in Poorhouse

After all, food stamps are to feed the poor, and getting food stamps is the mark of poverty.

So obviously if more people are getting food stamps because of Obamacare, then Obamacare is increasing poverty.

That’s better logic than 90% of progressivism has to offer.

There Goes the Neighborhood on November 7, 2013 at 12:53 AM

For every dollar a person receives in food stamps, Pelosi said that $1.79 is put back into the economy. The U.S. Department of Agriculture cites an even higher figure of $1.84.

“It is the biggest bang for the buck when you do food stamps and unemployment insurance. The biggest bang for the buck,” she said.

We are dealing with evil morons.

Flange on November 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Let me explain the economics to you. No need to thank me. I’m just helpful that way.

Ya see, the government is out of money. Now if you or I were out of money, we wouldn’t be able to go spending more. At least, not for long.

But it’s ok for the government. When they want to give an extra billion dollars in food stamps that they don’t have, then they just print up a billion dollars. Bam, the economy is a billion dollars richer, just like that.

Then those people getting the food stamps will go and spend some of that newly printed money, and spread it around. And since capitalism creates wealth, if not quite as well as the government does — maybe 85% or so — then you wind up with each dollar of food stamps actually amounting to $1.85 or so.

As you can clearly see from this short description, if the government keeps handing out food stamps for another decade or more like it has been, we’re all going to be rich, rich, rich!

Now you know why Michelle O. can take million dollar trips overseas several times a year.

There Goes the Neighborhood on November 7, 2013 at 1:02 AM

This is weird, I happen to know of a single woman with three kids who just got her $500 a month food stamp benefit cancelled because she makes just over $19K annually now. Seriously, from $500 to zero, sounds like she might be the last person in the country that doesn’t qualify.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Don’t 80% of food stamp recipients have flatscreen TVs, Xbox, air conditioning, microwave, refrigerator, and all other major appliances?

nazo311 on November 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Food stamp recipients have to keep their liquid assets under $2k, which encourages people to spend on small luxuries rather than to try to build toward a more secure financial position.

theperfecteconomist on November 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM

This is the insidious thing about food stamps and other welfare. It operates like a soft prison. As long as you’re not doing too well, you can get free stuff. If you start making financial progress gradually, you run the risk of making just enough to no longer be eligible for the free stuff, but not enough to make up for the free stuff you’re no longer getting. So unless your financial picture improves enough to make up for the free stuff you’re no longer eligible for, you can easily end up making more money, but keeping less of it.

Now, eventually, a person who gets off food stamps is going to wind up in much better financial shape. But they have to be prepared to go through some financial pain in the process when they lose their eligibility.

In effect, welfare is very much like a slave owner that doesn’t expect you to work, but doesn’t want you to leave the plantation.

It’s one of the most perverse systems every set up by man, where giving people free food and benefits actually damages them far more than someone who is not “compassionate.”

That may sound a bit philosophical, but it’s very true practically. Black people were making huge gains economically in this country BEFORE the War on Poverty. They’ve been going backwards ever since.

And if you think that’s just racism, try visiting an Indian reservation sometime and see the poverty they live in when the government is “helping.”

There Goes the Neighborhood on November 7, 2013 at 1:19 AM