Panic room: Frustrated Senate Dems up for reelection next year meet with Obama, Biden over ObamaCare debacle

posted at 6:01 pm on November 6, 2013 by Allahpundit

Jeff Zients, the new tech czar in charge of repairing Healthcare.gov, was there too. Here’s another reason why I feel no schadenfreude over Obama voters having their plans canceled. I need to save all my schadenfreude for stories like this.

The meeting ran two full hours. Details are vague but I can guess what the main topic was. Tick tock.

The lawmakers’ chief concerns centered on getting the website repaired – even for lawmakers from states where the exchange is working – and ensuring that the data consumers submit is secure.

Many of them backed delaying the open enrollment period because of the problems, but administration did not indicate it wanted to do so, a source said…

The members at the meeting were Mark Begich of Alaska, Cory Booker of New Jersey, Chris Coons of Delaware, Dick Durbin of Illinois, Al Franken of Minnesota, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Jeff Merkley of Oregon, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Jack Reed of Rhode Island, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Mark Udall of Colorado, Tom Udall of New Mexico, Mark Warner of Virginia and Michael Bennet of Colorado, according to Senate aides and the White House…

All senators except for Bennet are up for re-election in 2014; Bennet is the chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

Roll Call has some enjoyable excerpts from the blustery statements released afterward by people like Begich and Udall, who are now desperate to signal their outrageously outrageous outrage over O-Care’s rollout to voters back home before the torches and pitchforks come out. I’m intrigued that they’re still pushing the idea of extending the enrollment period next year. In a sense, that jibes with what Sebelius said at this morning’s hearing about not wanting to leave people without coverage any longer; the longer you make the enrollment period, the greater the opportunity for people to sign up. Problem is, extended enrollment will compound the adverse selection problem facing insurers. You don’t want to give healthy people any reason to wait to enroll; you need them in the pool ASAP to help pay for the sick. That’s the whole point of having a mandate. If you extend enrollment, not only do you reduce the pressure on the healthy to enroll, you lengthen the time allowed next year for the newly sick and injured to get coverage to pay for their treatment. That’s the real reason Sebelius is nervous about tweaking the law’s timetable. There’s major risk to the industry in doing it — and yet here are Democratic incumbents ready to do it anyway in the name of saving their own asses. I wonder how long it’ll be before the White House and Senate Dems are openly fighting over whether to delay/extend or not. See why I save my schadenfreude?

But back to the big question: How much longer until the website’s fixed? The end of November is D-Day. Obama assured Democrats in today’s meeting that it’ll be ready and Democratic aides have been mumbling their agreement to reporters when asked, but there’s good reason not to trust the guy responsible for “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.” Via James Taranto, here’s an insightful interview with a risk-management expert who agrees with the vast consensus that the new target date’s just not realistic:

Jones: Last week, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius assured her inquisitors at a congressional hearing that her department has brought in experts that have a handle on the problems the site is facing. How confident should we be in Sebelius’ assurances?

Charette: Not very. They’re talking about dozens and dozens of items on their punch list—both in terms of functionality and performance issues. They’ve got just over 30 days to get through the list. Let’s just say that there are 30 items on it. What do you think is the actual probability of getting through testing them, making sure that the system works end to end and that there are no security holes all in a single month? How do you expect to get that done, knowing that every time you make a fix, there’s a high probability that you’re going to introduce an error somewhere else?

Jones: Let’s spin this forward a bit. How do you think this next month will actually go?

Charette: They said that they needed five weeks at the minimum to test it, and they’re still making all these changes. Where will that five-week window fit? If they had stopped right then and tested it for five weeks, they wouldn’t have been able to finish on time. And five weeks was probably the absolute minimum they needed, assuming everything worked. They’re patching the system as they go along and as Sebelius admitted, they’re doing very local unit tests (which, by the way, is what got them into this mess in the first place, with each contractor saying, “Well, my stuff works”). If they discover something major, they may have to run the whole system test again.

Even if they made it functional by December, Charette thinks security will suffer to the point that “it would be very surprising if there isn’t some type of breach, either at the federal or state level, by this time next year.” Security was, in fact, the focus of Mark Udall’s statement after today’s meeting. He knows what’s coming and is doing what he can to distance himself now.

Oh, by the way, and not coincidentally: Healthcare.gov’s chief tech guy is now quietly out of a job. Here’s Max Baucus at today’s hearing reminding Sebelius in full view of the cameras that he expects her to keep her promise to have this thing up and running by November 30th. Tick tock.


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You broke it
You own it

LeftCoastRight on November 6, 2013 at 6:05 PM

You watch…Sebelius’s ‘Delay is not and option’ crap is gonna go right under the bus…

BigWyo on November 6, 2013 at 6:06 PM

There is no lying and incompetence in the Obama Administration. Actually, rumors of lying and incompetence in the Obama Administration have been greatly exaggerated. No, we stand by our original statement that there is lying and incompetence, I mean no lying and incompetence, in any of the Departments of the Obama Administration. Nor in the President’s office itself. Especially in the President’s office itself. We meant, especially not in the President’s office itself. After 3am and before 6am.

VorDaj on November 6, 2013 at 6:08 PM

The most pitiful, disgusting aspect to this “rush meeting with Obama” is, these Democrats are only in such rush because they’re now concerned about their popularity with voters, given their upcoming re-election campaigns.

They’re concerned now with staying in office.

They SHOULD HAVE BEEN concerned “then” with reading the Obamacare legislation they voted for and how it would dreadfully impact so many voters. AND the nation.

They’re concerned now about their own vanity. Not the country. But with their own necks.

Same as Obama.

Lourdes on November 6, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Waiter, a little cherry topping on my Schadenfreude if you don’t mind…ahh, that’s perfectly sweet, thank you….

hillsoftx on November 6, 2013 at 6:08 PM

You broke it
You own it

LeftCoastRight on November 6, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Their votes on Obamacare are their signatures.

They signed it, they’re responsible for it.

Lourdes on November 6, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Let them choke on it and die a slow painful death.

oceansidecon on November 6, 2013 at 6:10 PM

DOn’t worry…you’ve got me.

BobMbx on November 6, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Awwww, poor widdle things. Maybe McAwful can share some DC suburbs with them…..oh, wait, no he can’t!

Sekhmet on November 6, 2013 at 6:12 PM

I can just bet that Pelosi will get involved with this “meet”…

I can hear her now, flailing those big hands all over her head, reassuring the other Dems that it’s alllll “those peoples’ problem,” that it’s not her, not them,, it’s THEM, those other people, they just don’t understand, they’re haters, they’re just not nice, they’re, oooh, is that Grey Goose? And who let HER in here? Get her out of here but give me a big glass.

Lourdes on November 6, 2013 at 6:12 PM

I thought the start date was October 1.

d1carter on November 6, 2013 at 6:13 PM

But, the CIO of HHS’s CMS Division isn’t out because of anything he was responsible or accountable for regarding Healthcare.gov…

From the WaPo

A Medicare official who oversaw HealthCare.gov’s botched launch will leave the federal government for the private sector, according to an e-mail sent late Tuesday to Medicare employees.

Tony Trenkle is the chief information officer at the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the agency that built the Affordable Care Act’s online portal. He is in charge of Henry Chao, a deputy chief information officer at Medicare whose name came up in congressional hearings as the source of key HealthCare.gov decisions.

Trenkle has pretty much spent his entire career in government, according to his biography on the Medicare Web site. His resume includes posts at Medicare, the General Services Administration and the Social Security Administration.

“Our chief operating officer announced yesterday Tony has accepted a position in private sector,” Medicare spokeswoman Julie Bataille told reporters this afternoon.

I wonder how these elected Democrats are going to feel if they are the only one’s who ultimately might be the ones who lose their jobs over the ACA debacle? It’s not that they don’t deserve it – but there are plenty of others, starting with Sebelius and Tavenner, who should lose their jobs for the EpicClusterFark.

As Clueless Joe said on the day the ACA was signed into law, it is a Big ‘effin deal….and there still are problems within the ACA beyond a non / borderline functioning website that make this an EpicClusterFark.

Looking at fixing the web site as the ‘cure’ for the ACA is like looking at the killing of UBL as being the ‘end’ of the War Against Islamofascism. We can’t let the argument against the ACA get pigeon-holed into just being a website problem.

Athos on November 6, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Tick Tock
cuckoo clock

I’m gonna go out on a limb here..
will not be ready by the 30th.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 6:15 PM

I can guarantee that the web site will be up and running by November 30TH. The year is however in much dispute.

meci on November 6, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Panic room: Frustrated Senate Dems up for reelection next year meet with Obama, Biden over ObamaCare debacle

Screw these libs – they need to choke and lose on ObamaDon’tCare…..

The only reason Mculliffee won in VA was for all the federal employees who are scared they will lose their gravy train……

Next year these bastards need to be put down.

redguy on November 6, 2013 at 6:16 PM

How do you expect to get that done, knowing that every time you make a fix, there’s a high probability that you’re going to introduce an error somewhere else?

Ignoring that possibility is the crux of leftism.

RadClown on November 6, 2013 at 6:16 PM

You broke it
You own it

LeftCoastRight on November 6, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Their votes on Obamacare are their signatures.

They signed it, they’re responsible for it.

Lourdes on November 6, 2013 at 6:09 PM

They should all go to jail – but even if they lose they still win…..
Fat K street contracts all around….

The real power to fight are the entrenched lobbyist’s …..

redguy on November 6, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Mr. President…you’ve got to save us! We must be re-elected! Not a single one of them is blameless in this fiasco, shouldn’t they have been asking questions and set a timetable and followed up on it YEARS ago? Have any of them read the bill prior to this point? I hope none of them gets another vote for any office as long as they may live. But our ELECTIONS are coming up! Boo friggin hoo.

scalleywag on November 6, 2013 at 6:18 PM

The non-functioning website is just funny. The policy cancellations are pissing people off. That they can’t fix.

Charlemagne on November 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM

But back to the big question: How much longer until the website’s fixed?

The website is only the tip of the iceberg. Look at what happened in Virginia. Cuccinelli didn’t really start closing the gap until a week ago — right around the time millions of insurance cancellation notices started being delivered and Obama’s Big Lie was exposed.

Most people believe the website will eventually be fixed. They are more concerned about whether they can keep their plans and doctors and how much new insurance will cost them. Further, while Obama delayed the Employer Mandate until 01.01.15, employer cancellation letters will start going out in September of next year — right before the midterms — and the administration has projected that 93 million people will ultimately lose their insurance.

Resist We Much on November 6, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Resist We Much on November 6, 2013 at 6:21 PM

+1000
Spot on

Tis just the beginning.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 6:23 PM

and yet here are Democratic incumbents ready to do it anyway in the name of saving their own asses.

Should have thought about “their asses” 3 1/2 years ago!

SCREW THEM!

GarandFan on November 6, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Obama on December 1st: Now everyone knows that when I set the end of November deadline it was that we would have a START on fixing those problems by the end of November. I never said we would fix the problems by the end of November.

PackerBronco on November 6, 2013 at 6:24 PM

let’s see…the Chicago gang came in and lied to the American people like crazy and half of us got taken

Most here didn’t believe any of it. The other half either did believe them or didn’t. If they did they may react badly. Or not. Those that never believed him but supported him don’t matter to us because they will never see things any other way.

These senators have to choose whether they want to stick with the lie and give support to the other Obamabots or try to come clean and hope the pissed off democrats will believe them again.

This is fun. Hey GOP, go quietly and heal thyselves.

DanMan on November 6, 2013 at 6:24 PM

ALLAHPUNDIT…..I HAVE AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF schadenfreude FOR THE DEMS AND THEIR VOTERS.

Rook on November 6, 2013 at 6:25 PM

OT/ but it looks like they found 700 more votes and the Dem has gone ahead in the Virginia AG race. Boy, I didn’t see that coming…

sandee on November 6, 2013 at 6:25 PM

No worries. Jeffery Zients will declare the website fully functional on the appointed date.

d1carter on November 6, 2013 at 6:26 PM

I cannot under any scenario see a functioning website by Dec 1. At best, there will be a pared-down front end to collect information, but the site won’t be functional. There are just too many data modeling/integrity and hub issues to resolve. The War Room notes reveal that for the first 8 days the site was live, the front end data collection software was nearly non-functional. When those issues were resolved, the War Room notes indicate serious data hub issues. Data issues could take months/years to fix (I suspect, at best, a year would be a fast fix. I could be wrong, but the complexity & number of databases the hub must connect is daunting).

Jazz on November 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM

I think what happened is God looked down one day and thought “wait a minute, are they lying to the people and hiding the prices and giving favoritism to certain groups and trying to redistribute wealth and forcing people to find some government run health care when they were perfectly happy with what they had? BOOM! Let’s see them do that without a functioning web site. :)

scalleywag on November 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM

scalleywag on November 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM

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bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Forget my previous post evidently it was an error on the part of the VA election dept. They gave the Dem 900 votes “accidentally.”

sandee on November 6, 2013 at 6:29 PM

I’m guessing they will declare victory Nov 29 (ahead of schedule!). Even if the result is a string tied between two soup cans.

Happy Nomad on November 6, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Suckas! The only one Obama cared about was himself, hence the timing of the launch post 2012 election. If he thought this could help himself, he would have launched it a year ago. Drink Up The Jim Jones Kool-aid you fools!

hillsoftx on November 6, 2013 at 6:33 PM

It’s already up and running by their standards.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Screw you Baucus, you senile old fool!

GarandFan on November 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM

I’m guessing they will declare victory Nov 29 (ahead of schedule!). Even if the result is a string tied between two soup cans.

Happy Nomad on November 6, 2013 at 6:30 PM

I heard Zients was upgrading them to a 386 with a 3.5″ floppy.

hillsoftx on November 6, 2013 at 6:35 PM

The voters will be placated when sebelius is demoted to her earned role as Debacle Czar.

AltTuning on November 6, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Wonder whats gonna be the topic
at all the holiday dinners.

Tick tock for all the Edie Littlefield’s.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 6:36 PM

They deserve much worse than losing an election for listening to Nazi Pelosi.

txhsmom on November 6, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Mark Begich of Alaska, Cory Booker of New Jersey, Chris Coons of Delaware, Dick Durbin of Illinois, Al Franken of Minnesota, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Jeff Merkley of Oregon, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Jack Reed of Rhode Island, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Mark Udall of Colorado, Tom Udall of New Mexico, Mark Warner of Virginia and Michael Bennet of Colorado

Hell’s waiting list.

hillsoftx on November 6, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Some audio has leaked:

“Yes we can”

“Yes we can”

“Yes we can”

faraway on November 6, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Baucus was smart. When he saw the train wreck coming he announced his retirement. I wonder what kind of a deal he has worked out..?

d1carter on November 6, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Panic room: Frustrated Senate Dems up for reelection next year meet with Obama, Biden over ObamaCare debacle

Not content with the fleas received at the first sleepover, frustrated Senate Dems return for more.

rukiddingme on November 6, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Baucus was smart. When he saw the train wreck coming he announced his retirement. I wonder what kind of a deal he has worked out..?

d1carter on November 6, 2013 at 6:38 PM

If my memory serves, he’s a lobbyist for Planned Parenthood.

txhsmom on November 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM

There is a good list of the Senate seats that are up for re-election in 2014 along with their likely challengers on Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball web site:

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/category/2014-senate/

Take a look at the list and

1) Make sure you have strong candidates ready to run in your state

2) Decide which candidate(s)you want to help and start spreading the word about their campaigns.

The battle for the Senate needs to start NOW!

The 2014 Primary Elections begin in March.

wren on November 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM

even for lawmakers from states where the exchange is working

Which is where? I mean exactly?

Hucklebuck on November 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Joe Biden was there? Well, problem solved.

hillsoftx on November 6, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Can someone verify a real Biden sighting? I thought the mother ship came back for him.

txhsmom on November 6, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Tick Tock
cuckoo clock

I’m gonna go out on a limb here..
will not be ready by the 30th.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 6:15 PM

I’m gonna go out on another limb and predict that 2014 elections will be a bloodbath for the Dems.

They paid no attention to the Tea Party when thousands were out protesting it.

They paid no attention when poll after poll indicated Americans didn’t want ObamaCare.

They paid no attention to the 2010 election when they lost the House.

They voted not to let people keep their health care plans (I’m looking at you Mary Landrieu).

They richly deserve the coming wrath of the voters.

INC on November 6, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Even if they made it functional by December, Charette thinks security will suffer to the point that “it would be very surprising if there isn’t some type of breach, either at the federal or state level, by this time next year.”

I expect that will happen much sooner. By the end of this year wouldn’t shock me at all – criminals aren’t likely to wait for Ocare vulnerabilities to be patched. It’ll be a prime target motherlode for hackers and hucksters, if it isn’t already.

whatcat on November 6, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Hucklebuck on November 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM

U know-
NC..the huge enrollment # of 1. lol
see headlines.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 6:45 PM

The Iceberg

1. Millions are getting dropped

2. Creating an account is a problem

3. Market shopping is creating sticker shock

4. People are losing their established network providers

5. Medicare/Medicaid are bulging

6. And available ACA/Medi doctors are not accepting new patients

budfox on November 6, 2013 at 6:46 PM

May they all hang from the electoral gallows next year.

crrr6 on November 6, 2013 at 6:52 PM

budfox on November 6, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Winning!!!
-Nazi Pelosi

txhsmom on November 6, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Transcript:

“So now how do we fix this thing?”

(Two hours of silence.)

“We’ll get back to you.”

PattyJ on November 6, 2013 at 6:55 PM

So, none of those at the meeting had any idea what ObamaCare was going to do to millions of Americans…in their States?
These are US Senators, right?

d1carter on November 6, 2013 at 6:56 PM

A Medicare official who oversaw HealthCare.gov’s botched launch will leave the federal government for the private sector, according to an e-mail sent late Tuesday to Medicare employees.

Why would anybody in the private sector hire this guy? The Obamacare website is pretty much proof positive that all involved with it are completely incompetent.

trigon on November 6, 2013 at 6:58 PM

d1carter on November 6, 2013 at 6:56 PM

They had to pass it to find out what was in it, remember?

txhsmom on November 6, 2013 at 6:59 PM

They richly deserve the coming wrath of the voters.

INC on November 6, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Agree with you Inc.

People are starting to get irate now..and the real shit
hasnt even hit the fan yet!

The story of Edie Littlefield is a hard truth..and their will be 100′s of 1000′s of people like her caught in this..I was waiting.

INC..did you know in Fl out of 67 counties, BCBS is the only choice for exchange plans for half of them? People don’t realize much yet..just preoccupied with the site that doesn’t work.
They have no clue whats about to be served up to them.
Slowly..they are learning the devil in the details-loss of docs/facilities/hospitals/high premiums/shit plans and all the lies told repeatably..and continued.

And when the employer mandate kicks in..will be epic.

We are a pressure cooker right now..it will blow.
I agree..it will be a blood bath.
They deserve more then our wrath in the booth.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Obama assured Democrats in today’s meeting that , it’ll be ready and Democratic aides have been mumbling their agreement to reporters when asked, but there’s good reason not to trust the guy responsible for “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.” “I Won.”

egmont on November 6, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Orrin Hatch today to Sebelius: I don’t want to put you on the spot…….LOL.

d1carter on November 6, 2013 at 7:04 PM

$ down..
The damn POS site wont be ready either.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 7:04 PM

So, a room full of liars lying.

Their only hope is another life line from the RINO’s.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 6, 2013 at 7:05 PM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 7:02 PM

I didn’t know that about BCBS, although I do know it’s big and used to cover Florida state employee health plans (don’t know if it still does).

INC on November 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM

More likely they will change the subject to amnesty and climate change.

That way they can have Chris Christy as a front man for cover.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 6, 2013 at 7:09 PM

They had to pass it to find out what was in it, remember?

txhsmom on November 6, 2013 at 6:59 PM

And, boy howdy, are they. Schadenfreude is no where near what I have over this. It’s more like something the ED commercials say you need to consult a physician with.

TXUS on November 6, 2013 at 7:09 PM

INC on November 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM

United,Aetna, Cigna ect..they cherry picked counties.
BCBS is participating in all..and in nearly half..only option.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 7:10 PM

So even if the website is up, are they going to have a product that anyone can afford?

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:11 PM

All out in 2014!!!

He sold you down the river. You fell for it. YOU need to die, politically, every one of you, with NO exceptions.

Choke on the obama-sh*t, and he with you. There s/b NO survivors on it. Yes, political ones…

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 7:13 PM

RectiCare for all of you, for the rest of our lives, you hemorrhoids on society!

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Yeah, the ACA law sure looks like you spent two years of your life workin’ on it, Max. The web site woes are just the light breeze starting to blow before the hurricane hits.

You own it. Be a big boy now.

dissent555 on November 6, 2013 at 7:16 PM

We want to watch you die quick political and slow real deaths. The latter so that you watch for a long time what you have done to the once great land.

Yes, you deserve NO less. YOU must be punished in this and the other lives, for your charlatanry, you thugs, incl. your thug in chief.

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 7:17 PM

So even if the website is up, are they going to have a product that anyone can afford?

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:11 PM

LOL

Or were you serious?

Hopeful, maybe?

egmont on November 6, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Two things.

One:

See why I save my schadenfreude?

I wouldn’t get too confident AP; if any of these Dem Senators end up in a race with a Tea Party candidate, the RNC will probably help fund the Dem.

And the other:

I don’t think Dems give a damn about anything retiring Max has to say at this point.

BKeyser on November 6, 2013 at 7:19 PM

6. And available ACA/Medi doctors are not accepting new patients

budfox on November 6, 2013 at 6:46 PM

7. The best hospitals in the land are NOT accepting obama’care’.

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Oh, by the way, and not coincidentally: Healthcare.gov’s chief tech guy is now quietly out of a job.

I’m picturing Dr. Evil’s conference room with ‘Austin Powers’ music in the background as Trenkle is dropped through a trap door into a crocodile pit (though I can’t picture Obama pressing the trap door button unless Valerie tells him it’s time to press the button).

jon1979 on November 6, 2013 at 7:21 PM

A Medicare official who oversaw HealthCare.gov’s botched launch will leave the federal government for the private sector, according to an e-mail sent late Tuesday to Medicare employees.

Tony Trenkle is the chief information officer at the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the agency that built the Affordable Care Act’s online portal. He is in charge of Henry Chao, a deputy chief information officer at Medicare whose name came up in congressional hearings as the source of key HealthCare.gov decisions.

The Post Office will hire him.

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Problem is, extended enrollment will compound the adverse selection problem facing insurers.

Not a huge problem. They built in a bailout system in the bill.

KMav on November 6, 2013 at 7:26 PM

egmont on November 6, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Not hopeful, I think I’m safe this year, can’t say about next. I wonder how many Californians have found those $50 premiums Dr. Emanuel was taking about on Fox News Sunday.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:28 PM

This system will never work. They may get the website to look and seemingly work better but the back end where the policies and systems interfaces are key will NEVER work.

Mason on November 6, 2013 at 7:29 PM

James Taranto linked to this NYT editorial from 2008. It would be funny if not so sad.

d1carter on November 6, 2013 at 7:23 PM

In the same time, Senator John McCain of Arizona has retreated farther and farther to the fringe of American politics, running a campaign on partisan division, class warfare and even hints of racism. His policies and worldview are mired in the past. His choice of a running mate so evidently unfit for the office was a final act of opportunism and bad judgment that eclipsed the accomplishments of 26 years in Congress.

What a perfect description of Obama.

txhsmom on November 6, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Christie attended by speaker phone.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Extending the enrollment period doesn’t do a darned thing about the abysmal policy design, rate structure, and access to docs and other providers. It would be fun if the people of the US weren’t being scr3wed over royally.

obladioblada on November 6, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Right now the REB is here in town educating his sycophants on how to turn Texas Blue. Probably teaching them boter fraud methods. Oh and he’s fundraising. Surprise, surprise! Get out of my Texas you btard! We’re not on your exchanges for a reason.

neyney on November 6, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Making major tinkering changes to a site while it is in production is practically impossible. You are better off building an entire parallel parallel site and cutting over to it. The problem with working on a site while it is in production is sort of like trying to work on a car while it is driving down the road. One false move –

Judging from my experience in the industry and my understanding of some of the problems so far, I honestly don’t believe they are going to have the site working by the end of the month. They have about three more weeks. It appears to me that they have some serious back end database issues to sort out.

In the meantime, every day that healthy people are delayed signing up for this is a day the insurance companies involved take it on the chin and have to raise prices more.

I am going to be very candid here: The Democrats had NO clue what it would take to actually deliver their fantasy world insurance plan. They make crap up put of thin air with no experience in the private sector and expect that their words alone describing some alternate reality will make that reality come true. How many different insurance companies did we have in the US with a website? The Democrats basically signed up the government to be the front end web portal for ALL of them — at once.

People — Democrats are idiots. They make a lot of really cool sounding promises that are emotionally appealing, but they are idiots. They don’t have a clue.

crosspatch on November 6, 2013 at 7:52 PM

We can’t let the argument against the ACA get pigeon-holed into just being a website problem.

Athos on November 6, 2013 at 6:14 PM

AMEN to that.

Cleombrotus on November 6, 2013 at 7:52 PM

So what if they “delay” it… insurers will NOT be rescinding their cancellation notices. The damage is done.

Enjoy your steaming pile of Obama you idiots!

Key West Reader on November 6, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Hey, everything will be straightened out by Nov 31st!

{nudge, nudge, wink, wink}

socalcon on November 6, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Tick tock…

Here’s hoping they get beat in their Primary in 2014… end it early for them…

Khun Joe on November 6, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Fvck it. I think I’ll just hire a hacker to sign me and all my employees up for the best policies offered.

TXUS on November 6, 2013 at 7:56 PM

So, none of those at the meeting had any idea what ObamaCare was going to do to millions of Americans…in their States?
These are US Senators, right?

d1carter on November 6, 2013 at 6:56 PM

DOH! How were we thuppothed to know that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kAEthfslsE

scalleywag on November 6, 2013 at 7:56 PM

All the lying liars in one room, must have been fun.

Dhuka on November 6, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Why would those that voted for and fully supported this step toward socialism feel any potential blowback’? Heck Joe, the Senate ad House leaders all said we’d need to pass it to see what was in it.

Besides, those voters are racist, you guys.

socalcon on November 6, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Panic and schadenfreude, pure.

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 8:02 PM

The website is so bad not even hackers can get into it, yet.

Dhuka on November 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Not hopeful, I think I’m safe this year, can’t say about next. I wonder how many Californians have found those $50 premiums Dr. Emanuel was taking about on Fox News Sunday.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Those $50 premiums are probably written in the electronic ether and never to be realized on earth.
Maryland BC/BS hasn’t dropped the guillotine on us yet. We dread going to the mailbox. Healthy 50′s with catastrophic plan. Hoping we are too old for the target demographic.

egmont on November 6, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Vulnerable Democrats must have watched in dismay as Democrat Terry McAuliffe barely clung to victory on Tuesday. Having spent three times more money than his rival and with the backing of his popular patrons, Bill and Hillary Clinton

Um, does the DNC think they’ve enough money to protect the House/Senate seats up next year? Their gonna cut the ‘Vulnerable Democrats’ loose, for fear of flushing the dollars down the john while not providing support for stronger Dems.

socalcon on November 6, 2013 at 8:05 PM

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