Quotes of the day

posted at 11:01 pm on November 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

Sections of an op-ed Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul wrote on mandatory minimums in The Washington Times in September appear nearly identical to an article by Dan Stewart of The Week that ran a week earlier. The discovery comes amid reports from BuzzFeed that Paul plagiarized in his book and in several speeches.

Paul also delivered testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Sept. 16, 2013, that included the copied sections.

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In an interview Sunday on ABC’s This Week, Paul said “hacks and haters” were trying to manufacture controversy over relatively minor transgressions.

“I take it as an insult and I will not lie down and say people can call me dishonest, misleading or misrepresenting,” Paul told host George Stephanopoulos. “I have never intentionally done so.”

“And like I say, if, you know, if dueling were legal in Kentucky, if they keep it up, you know, it would be a duel challenge. But I can’t do that, because I can’t hold office in Kentucky then.”

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The office of Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has released a statement on allegations that he has plagiarized in speeches, his recent book, and in a recent op-ed in the Washington Times. It comes from Paul’s senior advisor Doug Stafford:

“In the thousands of speeches and op-eds Sen. Paul has produced, he has always presented his own ideas, opinions and conclusions. Sen. Paul also relies on a large number of staff and advisers to provide supporting facts and anecdotes – some of which were not clearly sourced or vetted properly.

“Footnotes presenting supporting facts were not always used. Going forward, footnotes will be available on request. There have also been occasions where quotations or typesetting indentations have been left out through errors in our approval process. From here forward, quoting, footnoting and citing will be more complete.

“Adherence to a new approval process implemented by Sen. Paul will ensure proper citation and accountability in all collaborative works going forward.

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Sitting in a conference room in his Senate office complex, Mr. Paul, drawn and clearly shaken by the plagiarism charges, offered a mix of contrition and defiance. He said that he was not certain whether it would affect his prospects should he decide to run for president in 2016 — he said he would happily return to his Kentucky doctor’s practice — and he asserted that was being unfairly targeted.

Acknowledging that his office had “made mistakes,” he said he was putting a new system in place to ensure that all of his materials are properly footnoted and cited.

“What we are going to do from here forward, if it will make people leave me the hell alone, is we’re going to do them like college papers,” he said. “We’re going to try to put out footnotes. We’re going to have them available. If people want to request the footnoted version, we’re going to have it available.”

Mr. Paul also said he could not rule out that other examples of past plagiarism would come out, but he unequivocally added that no staff members would be fired.

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The Washington Times said Tuesday it had independently reviewed Mr. Paul’s columns and op-eds and published a correction to one column on Sept. 20 in which the senator had failed to attribute a passage that first appeared in Forbes.

The newspaper and the senator mutually agreed to end his weekly column, which has appeared on each Friday in the newspaper since the summer.

“We expect our columnists to submit original work and to properly attribute material, and we appreciate that the senator and his staff have taken responsibility for an oversight in one column,” Times Editor John Solomon said.

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For more than a week, Rachel Maddow, MSNBC’s flagship host, has been doggedly pursuing the story surrounding Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-KY) lifting of the plotlines of the movie Gattaca from the film’s Wikipedia page in a speech. She pursued the story nightly, even when there was no new information to report.

Her tenacity in pursuit of that story inspired a series of jokes among conservatives at Maddow’s expense. The seeming frivolity of the infraction on Paul’s part (or, more likely, his speechwriting staff’s part) did not merit the excessive coverage that Maddow devoted to it. Many believed that the MSNBC host was attempting to reignite her long-standing feud with the senator, even at the risk of her credibility…

A week ago, it was Maddow who could have been accused of “immaturity.” Today, she is vindicated. There is nothing trivial about plagiarism. Paul would be well-advised to take ownership of these infractions, correct for them, and ensure that they never happen again. Furthermore, he would also be well-served to not lash out at those who criticize them – especially when they can be so easily proven correct.

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The second problem, which cuts straight to the heart of the difference between Rand Paul and his dad, is that he’s actually trying to win the presidency. If your goal is to genuinely compete in a general election with your once-marginalized ideas, instead of building a revolutionary movement at the margins, then you don’t need to be as clean as the competition–you need to be cleaner. Why? Call it The Weird Man’s Burden…

So what does that mean in this instance? If he wants to run for president, he needs to be better, not worse, and not merely as good, as the competition when it comes to the most seemingly trivial matters of comportment. Journalists, particularly (though not only) from those outlets sensitive to the allure that libertarian ideas have on some progressive voters, will be gunning for every possible gaffe, glitch, error of judgment, and stated deviance. He should consider it an honor to be challenged, instead of a challenge to get huffy about.

People who choose the Inside Game know, or at least should know, that the deck is stacked against them, and that they will be judged more harshly. Those were always the rules. On the upside, being the first real truth-teller inside an empire of lies carries with it enormous galvanizing potential. Whining about being picked on in this context is like complaining about getting fouled when you drive to the hoop against Bill Laimbeer and Rick Mahorn. The answer is to dunk the damned basketball, not bitch to the refs. And for god’s sake, make sure your shoes are tied.

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Via Greg Hengler.

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Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Manitoba’s Wild Kingdom – “The Party Starts Now”

This link has better audio quality, but it’s missing the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwyhn1COFM4

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Hey everyone should go to this post above. Then copy it into your clip board. Then paste it into a file and save it. Then paste it into blog comments so the word gets out that Obama is a PROVEN liar.

And mention me if you want.

H/t RWM.

SparkPlug on November 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

His Mom was thrilled! He wasn’t sure. lol He’s a trooper though and said thanks. I noticed he held on to it and didn’t let it go.

But he seems to have brought a bug home which the entire family got. Poor guy is on a steroid, antibiotics and abuderal.

Since he will be home from PreK until Thursday I’m sure his Mom put it on to help entertain him.

All in all, you gave me points with his MOM. Thanks so much.

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Perry (for sure).

gh on November 6, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Hope so!

GG – one of the original Perry girls :)

gophergirl on November 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Marry-Wanna, ………………………………

Portland, ME, US
1m
***

Voters in Portland, Maine,

adopt a measure legalizing marijuana possession

in the state’s largest city – @BDNMaine
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canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

It will be hard for democrats to explain why Biden is qualified to be president and Paul isn’t based on these charges.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

You underestimate them. First you will have to explain to them, why they should explain to you … and they have very low IQs so it will be a challenge.

gh on November 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

my favorite part starts around 3:15……

williamg on November 6, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Bishop is missing.

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:11 AM

He’ll be just fine. The race for 2016 is pretty much between him and Chris Christie at this point.

Punchenko on November 5, 2013 at 11:58 PM

You think so? I don’t. No way in hell Cruz doesn’t jump in. The very last thing he can afford is a high-profile conservative upstaging him as the new Tea Party Hero, which means he gets thrown out of the tribe like yesterday’s garbage, just like what happened to Rubio. The more elections take place, the more risk of that happening.

I’m also certain that there’s going to be room for more governors in the race. Just you watch.

KingGold on November 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Cruz is a smarmy cluster**** and the shutdown was stupid. He has enemies. Rubio is just stupid, period, and lacks seriousness.

Santorum and Huckabee are jokes who will fight over the Vander Plaats “endorsement”.

Walker might be a contender, but he lacks “credentials” which might be an issue for many.

No, I think Paul Inc. will do well in Iowa and New Hampshire. Christie will have the $$$ advantage while Paul will have a good organization from his father. We’ll see. I’ll be happy to vote for either Paul or Christie.

Who am I forgetting among governors?

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:15 AM

Do we really have that many citizens who are a hair’s breadth from being SS/Gestapo/Concentration camp guards?

Marcola on November 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

I’ve thought about that. I think the answer’s yes. My theory about it needs some work, though. I’m thinking that the more amoral the mechanics of living are, the more arbitrary rules apply and the less common sense applies. More people, without thinking, start doing what the poster or the manual says — since the “right thing to do” can’t be arrived at by their own sense of right and wrong, or even through reason, since the rules multiply like cancer cells and lose their rationality in senseless complexity.

It’s why I keep saying stupid is the only thing to really fear. This is a kind of stupid, a blind groping.

. . . but I can’t back that theory up, yet.

Still, my answer is yes. :)

Wait, I shouldn’t be smiling.

:(

Axe on November 6, 2013 at 12:16 AM

If I Didn’t Care

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:16 AM

We should all take time and pray for the good folks of New York City.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:16 AM

The Traffic Stop/Anal Cavity Searches From Hell

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Good on the first set of doctors for refusing to do it. Maybe that should have been a wake up call to the LEO involved.

I do hope that gentleman enjoys his multimillion dollar settlement.

kim roy on November 6, 2013 at 12:16 AM

When Somebody Thinks You’re Wonderful

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

For narcissists:

The Damned – “I Think I’m Wonderful”

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

WTH,..Ordinance Banning,….

Royal Oak, MI, US
1m
Royal Oak, Mich., voters approve ordinance banning discrimination based on sexual orientation – @freep
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South Portland, ME, US
3m
Voters in South Portland, Maine, rejects attempt to ban offloading of ‘tar sands oil’ at waterfront – @BDNMaine
read more on bangordailynews.com

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

I hope Allahpundit stocked up on provisions and attire appropriate for an existence in a post-apocalyptic Barter Town-like city.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

All in all, you gave me points with his MOM. Thanks so much.

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

*big smile*

So glad I had something to share that helped you out. :)
Was excited to hear! Just kept missing you.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Who am I forgetting among governors?

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:15 AM

Martinez – she speaks Spanish.

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:19 AM

We should all take time and pray for the good folks of New York City.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:16 AM

All the work Rudy did just got flushed down the East River.

gophergirl on November 6, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Walker might be a contender, but he lacks “credentials” which might be an issue for many.

No, I think Paul Inc. will do well in Iowa and New Hampshire. Christie will have the $$$ advantage while Paul will have a good organization from his father. We’ll see. I’ll be happy to vote for either Paul or Christie.

Who am I forgetting among governors?

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:15 AM

How does Walker lack Credentials?

Paul won’t have the money to be a serious contender – his father ran on grass roots money from because of his anti-war creds and Paul won’t get that.

You’re forgetting Jindal, Martinez, Thune, Portman

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:19 AM

TuneAge:

Pure 80′s #1s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVQpHfQtD0A

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:19 AM

I Only Have Eyes For You – The Flamingos

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:20 AM

I would love for it to be Cruz but it’s going to be Christie/Martinez unless things change drastically.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:21 AM

I hope Allahpundit stocked up on provisions and attire appropriate for an existence in a post-apocalyptic Barter Town-like city.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Punchenko:Referring to dis:)
================================

New York, US
42m

New York state voters approve a constitutional amendment to expand casino gambling – @nytimes
read more on nytimes.com

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:21 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

lol, I was excited too! I’m nuts and bolts and not very creative. Your suggestion was awesome!!! Now you know who I’m coming to for the next idea right???? Christmas is coming :)

It’s nasty down this way. I’m waiting for the sun to show up again.

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Cruz or Walker that is.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Only You – The Platters

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:22 AM

When Somebody Thinks You’re Wonderful

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

For narcissists:

The Damned – “I Think I’m Wonderful”

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

I was going to post Something Wonderful by, uh, RevCo, but I’ll digress.

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:23 AM

In the Still of the Night

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:23 AM

gophergirl on November 6, 2013 at 12:19 AM

isn’t that the truth….”a new era of liberalism…” Good luck with that.

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:24 AM

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:22 AM

Hi Jackie!!

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM

For narcissists:

The Damned/obama – “I Think I’m Wonderful”

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Cruz is a smarmy cluster**** and the shutdown was stupid.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:15 AM

At what point in time do you expect that our government will get serious about its debt? Next year? 2 years? 15 years?

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:21 AM

LOL…I will do my best…
I have some idea’s. ;)

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Good evening, my friend.:) A particularly beautiful song. :)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Cruz or Walker that is.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:21 AM

kcewa:Speaking of Cruz:)
=======================

Houston Chronicle ‏@HoustonChron 4h

New poll shows Ted Cruz remains star of Texas Republican Party: http://bit.ly/1bWzjQJ
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UT/TT Poll: Cruz Earning Top Marks From Conservatives
Ross Ramsey, The Texas Tribune | November 5, 2013
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U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz remains the star of the Texas Republican Party, leading the pack in the GOP’s 2016 presidential sweepstakes in Texas and maintaining high rankings from conservative voters even after the federal government shutdown, according to the new University of Texas/Texas Tribune Poll.

The senator’s widely publicized actions leading up to the congressional gridlock over health care and the early October shutdown of the federal government preceded the poll, which went into the field the day after federal government operations resumed. Compared with the UT/TT Poll last June, Cruz is better known among fans and foes alike.

Cruz’s unfavorable rankings increased by 6 percentage points since June, and his favorable rankings fell by 2; 38 percent of Texas registered voters had a favorable opinion of him, while 37 percent gave him unfavorable marks.

But the real story is in the underlying numbers: Democrats don’t seem to like Cruz, Republicans like him a lot and those who identify themselves as Tea Party voters love him.

“He is far and away the center of gravity among Republican Party officials in Texas right now,” said Jim Henson, co-director of the UT/TT Poll and head of the Texas Politics Project at the University of Texas at Austin. “He is very secure in the Republican Party right now, in terms of both favorability and name recognition. He is where it’s at.”

Among Democrats, Cruz’s favorable/unfavorable ratings were 9 percent to 75 percent. But among Republicans, that flipped, 52 percent favorable to 19 percent unfavorable, and among Tea Party voters, his numbers were 92 percent to 2 percent. And among those Tea Party identifiers, 72 percent have “very favorable” opinions of Cruz. On the other end, 70 percent of Democrats chose “very unfavorable.” Those who identified as Republicans when given a choice between that and Tea Party were less fervent: 22 percent gave Cruz “very favorable” ratings, while 30 percent said their opinion was “somewhat favorable.”

“It’s Democrats who have realized who Ted Cruz is, and they hate him,” said Daron Shaw, a government professor at UT-Austin and co-director of the poll.

On a hypothetical Republican presidential primary ballot, Cruz was the first choice of 32 percent of self-identified Texas Republicans, followed by Gov. Rick Perry at 10 percent. Cruz led the poll in June, too, with 25 percent, and Perry had 10 percent in that survey, too. But Perry was second this time, and fourth last time; Rand Paul and Marco Rubio’s numbers have fallen among Texas Republicans as Cruz’s have risen.

“Cruz’s stance on the budget, on the government shutdown, does not seem to have hurt him among Texas Republican primary voters,” Shaw said. “He seems to have distinguished himself from other Republican Tea Party darlings. Cruz has branded himself.”

The other Republicans on the presidential list pulled single digits, including Jeb Bush at 9 percent, Paul Ryan at 7 percent, Rubio and Paul at 6 percent each, and Chris Christie at 4 percent. Rick Santorum and Bobby Jindal each got 3 percent, and Scott Walker was last at 1 percent; 19 percent of those Republicans said they had not formed an opinion.

“There is very little cause for caution or for moderation here, especially if you look at the fact he increased by 7 [points], Perry held, and Paul and Rubio fell behind,” Henson said of Cruz. “The presidential heat shows you the latest snapshot of the establishment-versus-conservative fight in Texas in the Republican Party.”

On the Democratic ballot, Hillary Clinton is a pre-emptive favorite, with 67 percent of the Democrats choosing her over seven other candidates. Joe Biden was next, at 7 percent, followed by Elizabeth Warren at 5 percent. Andrew Cuomo, Martin O’Malley, Brian Schweitzer and Mark Warner each got 1 percent, and Kirsten Gillibrand came in at zero. The remaining 17 percent were undecided.

Voters were also asked to grade several public officials on the job they’re doing. President Obama got approving marks from 37 percent, but 54 percent said they disapprove of the job he’s doing, including 46 percent who “disapprove strongly.”

Congress did even worse, getting favorable marks from just 8 percent of Texas voters (2 percent “approve strongly”) and unfavorable marks from 77 percent, including 56 percent who “disapprove strongly.”

Texas government looks rosy next to that.

Perry remains about where he has been in the eyes of Texas, with 39 percent of voters saying they have a favorable opinion of him and 43 percent saying they have an unfavorable impression. Those numbers precisely mirror voters’ grades on the job he’s doing: 39 percent approve and 43 percent disapprove.

The Texas Legislature got approving nods from 31 percent, while 39 percent disapprove and 24 percent were neutral.

The University of Texas/Texas Tribune internet survey of 1,200 registered voters was conducted Oct. 18-27 and has an overall margin of error of +/- 3.3 percentage points. Results among self-identified Republican primary voters carry a margin of error of +/- 5.02 percentage points; among Democratic primary voters, +/- 6.03 percentage points. Numbers in the charts might not add up to 100 percent, because of rounding.

This is the second of five stories on the latest University of Texas/Texas Tribune Poll. Yesterday: the 2014 races for governor and other offices. Tomorrow: the mood of the state, and Texans’ views on the Affordable Care Act.

Texas Tribune donors or members may be quoted or mentioned in our stories, or may be the subject of them. For a complete list of contributors, click here.

This article originally appeared in The Texas Tribune at http://www.texastribune.org/2013/11/05/uttt-poll-cruz-control/.
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http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/UT-TT-Poll-Cruz-Earning-Top-Marks-From-4957388.php?cmpid=hpfc

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

MG, the moon was a sliver of silver tonight.

SparkPlug on November 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Good evening, CoffeeLover.:) I hope you’re well. :)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

n the Still of the Night

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:23 AM

LOL, I was shocked..thought u were playing
White Snake! I was excited!

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

It’s All In The Game – Tommy Edwards

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:27 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Good! Left up to me he’d get his usual “pjs” and some jerky thing! lol

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:27 AM

********************* D*mmitt,..is was sooooooooooooooo close *******!!
(sarc)
——-

Colorado, US
57s
*****
11 rural Colorado counties split in support of symbolic initiative to form

a 51st state – 9NEWS

read more on denverpost.com

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:27 AM

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

I’m well Jackie thanks. I hope you and yours are well too.

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:29 AM

This calls for my fave Rand video ever.
I never tire of it.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:29 AM

Evening J.

Crazy
night

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:29 AM

11 rural Colorado counties split in support of symbolic initiative to form

a 51st state – 9NEWS

read more on denverpost.com

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:27 AM

I have friends up towards Ft. Collins who would love to split off from the rest of the state.

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:29 AM

SparkPlug on November 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Good evening, Spark.:) Very good to see you.

I think a sliver of silver in the night sky, set among the stars, is still incredibly beautiful. :)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:30 AM

one thing that the RINOs/left hate about Cuccinelli is his attack on Michael Mann and the cloistered and pure halls of UVA.
RINOs are deathly afraid of questoning the CAGW wisdom from their ‘betters’…and, of course, from their green donor companies who have spend billions to make themselves Green

r keller on November 6, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Whitesnake – Still of the Night

@Dire — Tawny. :)

Axe on November 6, 2013 at 12:30 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM
Good! Left up to me he’d get his usual “pjs” and some jerky thing! lol

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:27 AM

LOL..I will do my best.
I’ll need more info tho.
We shall collaborate. :)

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:30 AM

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:29 AM

I’m glad you’re well. :) It’s kind of you to think of me, CoffeeLover, thank you. :)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:31 AM

For narcissists:

The Damned/obama – “I Think I’m Wonderful”

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM

I was thinking about him (of course!) and those who think Cruz is in love with himself, too! :)

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Walker might be a contender, but he lacks “credentials” which might be an issue for many.

No, I think Paul Inc. will do well in Iowa and New Hampshire. Christie will have the $$$ advantage while Paul will have a good organization from his father. We’ll see. I’ll be happy to vote for either Paul or Christie.

Who am I forgetting among governors?

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:15 AM

How does Walker lack Credentials?

Paul won’t have the money to be a serious contender – his father ran on grass roots money from because of his anti-war creds and Paul won’t get that.

You’re forgetting Jindal, Martinez, Thune, Portman

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Walker doesn’t have a college degree which might be an issue for some and fodder for Democrats. Of course, it might also help. Either way, Walker lacks charisma and will be another Pawlenty-type candidate that will shrink under Christie.

Paul will not get big donors. I think that’s his biggest issue unless he gets the libertarian Silicon Valley clique — like Thiel — to donate. Again, Christie will get the Wall Street/Corporate big donors and will most likely nuke Paul and others early and often.

Jindal, Thune, Martinez, and Portman are all meh. I don’t see them overcoming the Rand Paul and Chris Christie show.

That’s just my opinion. :-)

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Updated
15
minutes
ago
A tale of two parties: Christie offers GOP roadmap to resurgence in 2016
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By Michael O’Brien, Political Reporter, NBC News

Gov. Chris Christie’s big re-election victory in New Jersey on Tuesday offered the GOP a roadmap toward revitalization in 2016 as the more uncompromising conservative, Ken Cuccinelli, suffered a narrow defeat in Virginia’s gubernatorial election.

Christie cruised to victory with an impressive coalition of New Jersey voters demonstrating crossover outside of the GOP that very few Republicans have shown in recent national elections.

During his victory speech, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie talks about the “scared mission” of not leaving any New Jersey citizen behind, and how angry citizens across the US can look to see how a government can work.

His success stands in contrast to the contest in Virginia, where Democrat Terry McAuliffe bested state Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, the Republican whom half of Virginia voters said was too conservative after he spent years cozying up to the Tea Party and its unflinching conservatism.

hough Cuccinelli managed a closer-than-expected showing against McAuliffe, his long history of social conservatism contributed to a poor showing with women voters, particularly those who support abortion rights. And last month’s government shutdown, a strategy backed by fellow conservatives in Congress, almost certainly doomed Cuccinelli in vote-rich Northern Virginia – an area heavily dependent on federal spending.

Republicans nonetheless cheered Christie’s victory as an example of how a GOP candidate can achieve broad success without having to compromise on principle. Christie won women voters by 13 points over token Democratic opponent Barbara Buono, according to exit poll data; Cuccinelli lost women voters to McAuliffe by eight points.

A year removed from the 2012 presidential election, in which Republican candidate Mitt Romney’s poor performance with Hispanic voters prompted GOP soul-searching and hopes for immigration reform, Christie won almost almost half of New Jersey’s Hispanic vote. The governor also won almost one-in-five black voters, and almost a third of New Jersey Democratic voters.

Christie’s sweeping victory offers Republicans a playbook for future electoral fortune even as national demographics continue to work against the party. More tantalizingly, the governor can point to his healthy margin of victory and crossover appeal as he makes his case to fellow Republicans as to why he should be the party’s presidential nominee come 2016.

“The biggest thing I’ve learned over the last four years about leadership is that leadership is much less about talking than it is about listening,” Christie said late Tuesday in a victory speech that seemed as dedicated toward fellow Garden Staters as a national audience. “I know that if we can do this in Trenton, N.J., maybe the folks in Washington, D.C., should tune in their TVs right now to see how it’s done.”

Terry McAuliffe talks about the challenges he will face as the next governor of Virginia.

The message for Republicans from Virginia was sure to be less certain.

At first glance, Cuccinelli’s loss seems to raise fresh questions about the brand of take-no-prisoners conservatism championed by the attorney general. Cuccinelli’s made a name for himself as a steadfast opponent of “Obamacare,” but had also fought for restrictions on abortion rights and same-sex marriage throughout his career.

Cuccinelli’s loss was far tighter, though, than most pre-election polling had suggested. And his core conservative backers are almost certain to second-guess what could have been for Cuccinelli had Republicans put more effort behind his campaign. Cuccinelli also closed out his campaign by describing it as a de-facto referendum on health care reform, prompting Republicans to ponder whether the line of attack was more effective than they had thought.

“Despite being outspent by an unprecedented $15 million, this race came down to the wire because of Obamacare,” Cuccinelli maintained in a relatively unapologetic concession speech.

Republican elders will in coming days seize on Tuesday’s results as a validation of their caution for the GOP to improve its outreach to women and minorities, while adopting less harsh tones and a less confrontational approach to many issues. The party establishment also scored a key victory in a Republican primary runoff for a House seat in Alabama, where Bradley Byrne fended off Tea Party challenger Dean Young in a hotly-contested race.

Heading forward, Tuesday’s contests fell just short of the decisive outcome that would have promised to finally tame the Tea Party demons with which Republicans have wrestled with for the past four years.

That question might not be settled until 2016, if and when Christie – armed with his comfortable re-election tonight – can make his case to Republicans nationwide that electability and compromise should outweigh the hard-lined tactics that have driven the GOP’s numbers to all-time lows in public opinion polls.

“I know that, tonight, a dispirited America – angry with their dysfunctional government in Washington –looks to New Jersey to say, ‘Is what I think’s happening really happening? Are people really coming together?” Christie said toward the end of this speech.

Christie added: “Let me give the answer to everyone who is watching tonight: Under this government, our first job is to get the job done, and as long as I’m governor, that job will always, always be finished.”

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/06/21326443-a-tale-of-two-parties-christie-offers-gop-roadmap-to-resurgence-in-2016?lite

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Hey Jackie..I saw THIS and knew you would be interested. ;)
lmao

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:33 AM

LOL, I was shocked..thought u were playing
White Snake! I was excited!

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Axe humored you :)

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Hey Coffee..can u make a trip the 14th?
I am meeting cmsinaz. Be awesome if u could come!

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:34 AM

read more on denverpost.com

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:27 AM

I have friends up towards Ft. Collins who would love to split off from the rest of the state.

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:29 AM

Murphy9:

There seems to be a few States that want to seperate, especially since

FU BO The Clown,got into the Oval Office!–:)

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:29 AM

lol! That tune is hysterical. :)

The extraterrestrials must be astonished. :)

I am the pebble in the river, though the water rages… it flows over me and around me… and I will not be moved.

Still too far out from the general election for me to speculate. ;)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:35 AM

11 rural Colorado counties split in support of symbolic initiative to form

a 51st state – 9NEWS

read more on denverpost.com

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:27 AM

I have friends up towards Ft. Collins who would love to split off from the rest of the state.

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:29 AM

What are they unhappy with?

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:36 AM

Christie cruised to victory with an impressive coalition of New Jersey voters demonstrating crossover outside of the GOP that very few Republicans have shown in recent national elections.

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/06/21326443-a-tale-of-two-parties-christie-offers-gop-roadmap-to-resurgence-in-2016?lite

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Only all of them.

If I want a North-Eastern Democrat, I’ll vote for Hillary.

Bloody NBC. :)

Axe on November 6, 2013 at 12:37 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:33 AM

OMG that is hysterical! lol

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:37 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:33 AM

LOL! Made me laugh!:)

I have it on.. well…a self declared authority… that we see more of that on the QOTD every night than those Norwegians did! lol!

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:37 AM

I was going to post Something Wonderful by, uh, RevCo, but I’ll digress.

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Al Green – “What a Wonderful Thing Love Is”

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:38 AM

There’s A Moon Out Tonight – The Capris

For Spark. :)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:38 AM

LOL, I was shocked..thought u were playing
White Snake! I was excited!

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Axe humored you :)

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:33 AM

I actually didn’t see b9′s note. :) I just went looking for White Snake the second I saw your link.

b9 and me — same wavelength. :)

It scares her.

It should.

Axe on November 6, 2013 at 12:38 AM

You’re The Girl I Love…..

williamg on November 6, 2013 at 12:39 AM

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:37 AM

lmao..I saw it and just had to post it here!
was waiting for you.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:40 AM

What are they unhappy with?

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:36 AM

The progressives have a strategy to turn CO blue. They are working feverishly to accomplish this. What they learn in the process will then be administered to turning TX blue, which means democrat hegemony in perpetuity. There are lots of land use regulations and other nuissance laws/regs that are really starting to become cumbersome. Standard death of a thousand cuts. Would you want to be ruled by Boulder and Denver if you had acreage out in the West Range?

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Stay – Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Hey Coffee..an u make a trip the 14th?
I am meeting cmsinaz. Be awesome if u could come!

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:34 AM

I didn’t know cmsinaz is down here. Would be awesome but doubtful for me.

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:41 AM

b9 and me — same wavelength. :)

It scares her.

It should.

Axe on November 6, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Oh Lord!

..actually..it should scare you!
I am crazy. LOL.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:41 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:40 AM

lol! I’m glad you did! It’s the best laugh I’ve had all day. :)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:42 AM

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Only all of them.

If I want a North-Eastern Democrat, I’ll vote for Hillary.

Bloody NBC. :)

Axe on November 6, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Axe:H/A Tips has the stories, look tomorrow for more NBC stories,haha
ahem, …heres the Blow-Hard Story:)
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Chris Christie and Terry McAuliffe: America Loves a Blowhard
*********************************** *************************

Virginia and New Jersey elected governors with big personalities who promised to put partisanship aside and get results—a lesson for both parties in 2014 and 2016.
Nov 5 2013, 10:01 PM ET
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Voters in New Jersey and Virginia elected two larger-than-life figures in Tuesday’s gubernatorial elections: Chris Christie, the famously tough-talking Republican, and Terry McAuliffe, the gregarious former Democratic National Committee chairman. Taken together, it was a great day for blowhards.

Christie and McAuliffe aren’t really very similar, of course. But neither man could accurately be called a policy wonk or an ideologue; both premised their campaigns on a promise to subordinate principle to effectiveness, to substitute force of personality for subtlety of ideas. In New Jersey, voters—including many Democrats—commended Christie for putting partisanship aside and teaming up with President Obama to respond to Hurricane Sandy. In Virginia, voters—including many Republicans—were more repelled by Ken Cuccinelli’s far-right crusades than they were by McAuliffe’s sketchy business dealings. A swing state, shadowed by the federal government shutdown, rejected the Tea Party; a blue state embraced a loudly pragmatist Republican.

Cuccinelli didn’t initially look like an underdog. A darling of conservatives in Virginia and nationally, he represented Democratic-leaning northern Virginia in the state legislature before coasting to statewide office with 58 percent of the vote in 2009. McAuliffe, meanwhile, had never held elected office and had foundered badly in his first bid for the governorship, getting whomped in the 2009 Democratic primary. As state attorney general, Cuccinelli’s legal activism—against health-care reform, the EPA, abortion clinics, and climate scientists— gave the state’s GOP establishment heartburn. But his popularity with the base helped him easily snag the nomination. At the state GOP convention in May, the conservative activists who thrilled to Cuccinelli’s uncompromising rhetoric also picked a surprise lieutenant-governor nominee, E.W. Jackson, a pastor and political novice whose incendiary views on topics such as homosexuality made Cuccinelli seem practically centrist by comparison.

McAuliffe touted his business acumen, but questions were quickly raised about his entrepreneurial credentials. GreenTech, the car company he’d founded, was barely producing vehicles and was under investigation by both the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission. Yet McAuliffe proved a more focused and disciplined campaigner than he’d been in 2009. He worked behind the scenes to win over Democratic activists and clear the field of primary competitors. Once he had the nomination in hand, he assiduously courted the many moderate Republicans turned off by Cuccinelli’s approach, winning donors and endorsements that helped him claim bipartisan bona fides. McAuliffe embraced Republican Governor Bob McDonnell’s tax-hiking transportation plan; Cuccinelli rejected it, along with the federally funded Medicaid expansion. During the government shutdown that idled tens of thousands of Virginia federal workers, Cuccinelli appeared at a campaign event where Senator Ted Cruz of Texas also spoke (though they did not appear onstage together), and he declined to endorse the congressional deal that reopened the government. In the final weeks of the race, Cuccinelli sought to turn the contest into a referendum on the health-care law during its disastrous rollout. But either it was too late to change the course of the race, or the health-care issue doesn’t excite voters as much as Republicans hoped—a conclusion that, if true, could have consequences in next year’s midterm elections.

Christie, for his part, was known principally for his YouTube gallery of shouting matches with such critics as teachers’-union representatives until Hurricane Sandy hit the Atlantic coast in October 2012. An emotional Christie toured the devastation with Obama, lavishly praising the federal government’s responsiveness to the crisis and, later, brutally lambasting congressional GOP when it temporarily refused to pass a federal aid package. Suddenly, Christie—a generally conservative governor by most measures—seemed like a maverick. His popularity skyrocketed; Cory Booker, the popular Democratic governor of Newark, decided to run for Senate rather than challenge him. Democrats instead put up as Christie’s opponent a state senator, Barbara Buono, so little-known she devoted a campaign ad to teaching voters how to pronounce her name.

Despite New Jersey’s strong Democratic lean, Buono never got much traction against Christie. She struggled to raise money and got little help from national Democrats, including the Democratic Governors Association, which declined to spend money on the race, and Obama, who campaigned for McAuliffe but not Buono. The shutdown provided another opportunity for Christie to campaign against Washington dysfunction and separate himself from the unpopular congressional GOP. He also dropped the state’s appeal of a court ruling legalizing gay marriage, which he personally opposes. A telling moment came during a debate between Buono and Christie when the candidates were asked to say something nice about one another. Buono could muster only a backhanded compliment, attempting to undercut Christie with a crack about him being good on talk shows. Christie launched into a seemingly sincere paean to Buono’s record of public service, praising her civic-mindedness and coming off as magnanimous. It’s easy to be gracious when you’re the frontrunner by a mile, but the episode showed the agility of Christie’s political instincts.

For Republicans not too deep in denial to draw the obvious conclusions, these two elections offer a clear lesson. (Already, however, conservative activists who once looked to Cuccinelli to prove that a staunch conservative could succeed are spinning his loss as the result of extraneous factors, such as the gift-taking scandal that has enveloped McDonnell and the presence of a Libertarian Party candidate on the ballot.) Christie has already begun pitching his success as a path forward for the GOP to put its divisions behind and become nationally viable again, a case that his reelection will bolster. Despite rumblings that his embrace of Obama would make him unacceptable to conservatives nationally, Christie leads some early surveys of 2016 presidential preferences—but then again, so does Cruz. It will be up to the Republican primary voters to decide which course to take.

Yet with a reelected Christie poised to become a major national figure, Tuesday’s result may be a warning as much to Democrats as it is to the GOP. Republicans will have a hard time succeeding if they follow Cuccinelli, Cruz, and the far-right fringe. But the toxicity of the Republican brand proved no obstacle at all to a candidate savvy enough to stake out a forceful and distinct persona and convince voters he can hurdle partisanship to get things done. Any Democrats who previously thought demographics, tactical superiority, and Republican disarray made their party a lock in 2016 ought to look at Chris Christie and think again.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/11/chris-christie-and-terry-mcauliffe-america-loves-a-blowhard/281191/

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 10:12 PM

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Walker lacks charisma and will be another Pawlenty-type candidate that will shrink under Christie.

Pawlenty had other issues. I see Walker’s personality working well for those who don’t like the Jersey bluster or the blandness of Paul.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Cruz is a smarmy cluster**** and the shutdown was stupid.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:15 AM

At what point in time do you expect that our government will get serious about its debt? Next year? 2 years? 15 years?

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Oh, I don’t know. Too many like the government gravy which means turning it off is always bad politics. The GOP Establishment was, sadly, right on that one.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:43 AM

Little Star – The Elegants

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:43 AM

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:41 AM

We are from the same town..we found out..crazy!
She is coming for a short visit.
My 1st HA meet!
It would be cool if you could..you seem lovely.
How did that happen? I just called a NY’er lovely.
LOL. I tease..

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:43 AM

Would you want to be ruled by Boulder and Denver if you had acreage out in the West Range?

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:40 AM

I wish I did have acreage! I thought the north half of the state was blue and the south part red?

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:44 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/11/05/eric-cantor-s-ex-chief-of-staff-helped-terry-mcauliffe-beat-ken-cuccinelli

the leftists in the RINO party really make me puke. if you want to be a Dem, fine…but don’t lie.

barry is racking up serious points because of the center-left RINOs and the lib-left Dems.

r keller on November 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Good. :)
I laughed too.
Dont get mad..just laugh- my motto.
well..sometimes. ;)

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

and those who think Cruz is in love with himself, too! :)

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:31 AM

The land is in big trouble, from both sides.

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

At what point in time do you expect that our government will get serious about its debt? Next year? 2 years? 15 years?

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM

From 2013-10-22 12:27 by Karl Denninger Your Illogic Will Destroy You

Remember folks, Social Security Disability is due to go bankrupt in two years, and that’s just the first of many of the “big sucks” to come. That’s not five, ten or 15 years in the future — it’s effectively right now and unless we cut the crap the start of the big suck is, at the outside, that close.

Since Obama, all these deadlines have lost about 20 years. Most of them hit within 15 years. Denninger has very little use for “the Ryan Plan”. It is also why the Romney/Christie/RINO of the year boosters are all so ridiculous.

gh on November 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

nite all!

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Nite M9

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

An excellent motto. I like it. :)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Goodnight, Murphy9. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Walker lacks charisma and will be another Pawlenty-type candidate that will shrink under Christie.

Pawlenty had other issues. I see Walker’s personality working well for those who don’t like the Jersey bluster or the blandness of Paul.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Nah, Christie will be larger than life next to them all during a debate. His victory speech tonight was magic.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Shhhhhhh….
Ken’s Birthday struck at Midnight.
Happy Birthday,baby!

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Otay my Southern Patriots, I’m off to airstrike Syrian WMD,
in Ace ComBat video game thingy.

Catch y’all tommorrow for After-Action Reports, on what did go wrong
or
right,in these various political races!

From Canuck Beaver Land,

Night Everyone———————————————————:)

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Peppermint Twist – Joey Dee & The Starliters

For our Spritely One. :)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:48 AM

One for da road:

D*mmitt:

Seattle, WA, US
4m
**
Democratic Washington state Sen. Ed Murray

declares victory in Seattle mayoral race

– @seattletimes
read more on seattletimes.com

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Oh, I don’t know.

Yeah, and neither do any of the other “thoughtful” anti-Cruzites…

Too many like the government gravy which means turning it off is always bad politics. The GOP Establishment was, sadly, right on that one.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:43 AM

No one likes to be put on a diet – better sooner than later. Now, we have McConnell promising Preezy Choom that there will not be another shutdown, allowing for even more fattening. The GOP leadership is the worst…

Anti-Control on November 6, 2013 at 12:48 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:43 AM

the same town in FL???

lol on the NYer.

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:48 AM

nite all!

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Murphy9:Night M9:)

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM

In an interview Sunday on ABC’s This Week, Paul said “hacks and haters” were trying to manufacture controversy over relatively minor transgressions.

Plagiarism is not a minor transgression … and it’s incredibly stupid to plagiarize recent work in this age of the internet. All someone has to do is search phrases and the original works pop right up.

I don’t have much more to say about this. I was never a big Rand fan, anyway. He’s correct on some issues and wrong on a bunch of others. He supports aiding and abetting illegals, which is deal-breaker for me, anyway.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:47 AM

I thought it was the 6th… but Happy Birthday, Ken!…never hurts to say it twice!;)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Yep, we went to the same high school. I knew her brother.
Small world! Floored me. Pretty cool!

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM

I thought it was the 6th… but Happy Birthday, Ken!…never hurts to say it twice!;)

thatsafactjack on November 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM

It is the 6th. ;)

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:50 AM

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