Quotes of the day

posted at 11:01 pm on November 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

Sections of an op-ed Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul wrote on mandatory minimums in The Washington Times in September appear nearly identical to an article by Dan Stewart of The Week that ran a week earlier. The discovery comes amid reports from BuzzFeed that Paul plagiarized in his book and in several speeches.

Paul also delivered testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Sept. 16, 2013, that included the copied sections.

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In an interview Sunday on ABC’s This Week, Paul said “hacks and haters” were trying to manufacture controversy over relatively minor transgressions.

“I take it as an insult and I will not lie down and say people can call me dishonest, misleading or misrepresenting,” Paul told host George Stephanopoulos. “I have never intentionally done so.”

“And like I say, if, you know, if dueling were legal in Kentucky, if they keep it up, you know, it would be a duel challenge. But I can’t do that, because I can’t hold office in Kentucky then.”

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The office of Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has released a statement on allegations that he has plagiarized in speeches, his recent book, and in a recent op-ed in the Washington Times. It comes from Paul’s senior advisor Doug Stafford:

“In the thousands of speeches and op-eds Sen. Paul has produced, he has always presented his own ideas, opinions and conclusions. Sen. Paul also relies on a large number of staff and advisers to provide supporting facts and anecdotes – some of which were not clearly sourced or vetted properly.

“Footnotes presenting supporting facts were not always used. Going forward, footnotes will be available on request. There have also been occasions where quotations or typesetting indentations have been left out through errors in our approval process. From here forward, quoting, footnoting and citing will be more complete.

“Adherence to a new approval process implemented by Sen. Paul will ensure proper citation and accountability in all collaborative works going forward.

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Sitting in a conference room in his Senate office complex, Mr. Paul, drawn and clearly shaken by the plagiarism charges, offered a mix of contrition and defiance. He said that he was not certain whether it would affect his prospects should he decide to run for president in 2016 — he said he would happily return to his Kentucky doctor’s practice — and he asserted that was being unfairly targeted.

Acknowledging that his office had “made mistakes,” he said he was putting a new system in place to ensure that all of his materials are properly footnoted and cited.

“What we are going to do from here forward, if it will make people leave me the hell alone, is we’re going to do them like college papers,” he said. “We’re going to try to put out footnotes. We’re going to have them available. If people want to request the footnoted version, we’re going to have it available.”

Mr. Paul also said he could not rule out that other examples of past plagiarism would come out, but he unequivocally added that no staff members would be fired.

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The Washington Times said Tuesday it had independently reviewed Mr. Paul’s columns and op-eds and published a correction to one column on Sept. 20 in which the senator had failed to attribute a passage that first appeared in Forbes.

The newspaper and the senator mutually agreed to end his weekly column, which has appeared on each Friday in the newspaper since the summer.

“We expect our columnists to submit original work and to properly attribute material, and we appreciate that the senator and his staff have taken responsibility for an oversight in one column,” Times Editor John Solomon said.

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For more than a week, Rachel Maddow, MSNBC’s flagship host, has been doggedly pursuing the story surrounding Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-KY) lifting of the plotlines of the movie Gattaca from the film’s Wikipedia page in a speech. She pursued the story nightly, even when there was no new information to report.

Her tenacity in pursuit of that story inspired a series of jokes among conservatives at Maddow’s expense. The seeming frivolity of the infraction on Paul’s part (or, more likely, his speechwriting staff’s part) did not merit the excessive coverage that Maddow devoted to it. Many believed that the MSNBC host was attempting to reignite her long-standing feud with the senator, even at the risk of her credibility…

A week ago, it was Maddow who could have been accused of “immaturity.” Today, she is vindicated. There is nothing trivial about plagiarism. Paul would be well-advised to take ownership of these infractions, correct for them, and ensure that they never happen again. Furthermore, he would also be well-served to not lash out at those who criticize them – especially when they can be so easily proven correct.

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The second problem, which cuts straight to the heart of the difference between Rand Paul and his dad, is that he’s actually trying to win the presidency. If your goal is to genuinely compete in a general election with your once-marginalized ideas, instead of building a revolutionary movement at the margins, then you don’t need to be as clean as the competition–you need to be cleaner. Why? Call it The Weird Man’s Burden…

So what does that mean in this instance? If he wants to run for president, he needs to be better, not worse, and not merely as good, as the competition when it comes to the most seemingly trivial matters of comportment. Journalists, particularly (though not only) from those outlets sensitive to the allure that libertarian ideas have on some progressive voters, will be gunning for every possible gaffe, glitch, error of judgment, and stated deviance. He should consider it an honor to be challenged, instead of a challenge to get huffy about.

People who choose the Inside Game know, or at least should know, that the deck is stacked against them, and that they will be judged more harshly. Those were always the rules. On the upside, being the first real truth-teller inside an empire of lies carries with it enormous galvanizing potential. Whining about being picked on in this context is like complaining about getting fouled when you drive to the hoop against Bill Laimbeer and Rick Mahorn. The answer is to dunk the damned basketball, not bitch to the refs. And for god’s sake, make sure your shoes are tied.

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Via Greg Hengler.

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Aqua Buddha

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

This

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Blue

Bmore on November 5, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Has the votes

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM

I read all the comments so far. I’ll read them again to make sure their meaning permeates into my receptors.

SparkPlug on November 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM

This

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Heh!

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Palate cleanser:

Senseless but humorfull violence from two hilarious icelandic dudes.

nobar on November 5, 2013 at 11:07 PM

This blue aqua Buddha has the votes.

SparkPlug on November 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM

And this

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

There’s something to be said about smart hiring and staff integrity here, but I’m sure it will just be written off as a leftist conspiracy.

You had a good run, Rand.

KingGold on November 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

The plagerism thing is really boring. If Paul were an academic or a writer it would matter. He is a politician …judge him on policies.

lexhamfox on November 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Evening All

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:11 PM

This too

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Evening CL

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM

I think considering everything that is happening – this is so not the most important thing to be worried about.

However I do think this will hurt him which is unfortunate because he is one of the good guys.

gophergirl on November 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM

KingGold on November 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Unaware Trolls Are Unaware.

budfox on November 5, 2013 at 11:14 PM

And Dear Leader misspoke…

d1carter on November 5, 2013 at 11:14 PM

When Somebody Thinks You’re Wonderful

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

It’s delightful to appreciate the presence of RWM whose postings are delightfully appreciated by me. And her websight is awesome, delightful and appreciated.

SparkPlug on November 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Gosh, it’s almost as if he lied about every aspect of his central piece of legislation.

talkingpoints on November 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

This is not the kind of amateurishness you want in a presidential candidate. And the fact that he hasn’t fired anybody over it is worse than the plagiarism itself.

Mark1971 on November 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

gophergirl on November 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM

same old tactics used over and over.

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Hi CL, start roasting the coffee beans. Then we can grind them up.

SparkPlug on November 5, 2013 at 11:17 PM

A week ago, it was Maddow who could have been accused of “immaturity.” Today, she is vindicated.

She has been accused of plagiarism, actually. Kind of an ironic pot-kettle thing, that.

whatcat on November 5, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Gosh, it’s almost as if he lied about every aspect of his central piece of legislation.

talkingpoints on November 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Tomorrow he can insert an “if” and all will be forgiven :)

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Some of us eat late you know.

gh on November 5, 2013 at 11:19 PM

SparkPlug on November 5, 2013 at 11:17 PM

ok…Koolaid gave me a martini earlier so I’m just warning ya LOL

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:19 PM

This isn’t going to hurt him.

It’s not plagiarism.

The Reason article is correct in saying he’s got to get more competent people on staff, because while they’re citing sources, it’s in haphazard ways.

Rand wants to go at Maddow, but he also knows that what she wants.

He should have simply gathered replies from the sources, who all said they didn’t give a flat F.k

budfox on November 5, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Spontaneous Protests Caused By YouTube Videos Causing More Damage

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:20 PM

WELL DONE….lol thanks RWM

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Some of us eat late you know.

gh on November 5, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Read it and you will be outraged.

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:21 PM

‘Toons of the Day: “I Didn’t ‘Misspeak.’ You Misheard.”

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

How do we convince Iran to put Sibelius in charge of their nuclear program?

talkingpoints on November 5, 2013 at 11:22 PM

So does this mean that no newspaper will run an op-ed if the Vice President writes one?

malclave on November 5, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Read it and you will be outraged.

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:21 PM

The title is sufficient for outrage … I might have a stroke if I read it.

gh on November 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM

same old tactics used over and over.

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:17 PM

I love Rand – I just hope this doesn’t make him become less vocal if that makes sense.

We need him.

gophergirl on November 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM

gophergirl on November 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM

I don’t think it will. And, yes…we need him. He’s only one of a few that makes any sense. I am concerned that Christie’s win is going to make the establishment Rs even more arrogant.

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:28 PM

The title is sufficient for outrage … I might have a stroke if I read it.

gh on November 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Not even the title sufficiently describes what those assh0les did to an innocent man.

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

I read it. I’m outraged.

SparkPlug on November 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

budfox on November 5, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Troll. Uh huh.

And “unaware?” I read the evidence, and it’s pretty damn convincing. Either Paul’s staffers are lazy pieces of garbage or he is. And neither case reflects all that well on him.

A plagiarism scandal cost us the Colorado governor’s race back in 2010, a race we had in the bag until the day before it broke. Why don’t you email Michelle Malkin, who’s been living under the governance of a liberal hippie for the past three years, and ask her how unimportant a plagiarism scandal is.

KingGold on November 5, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

You are so right RWM not only digusting but appalling.

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:30 PM

There’s something to be said about smart hiring and staff integrity here, but I’m sure it will just be written off as a leftist conspiracy.

You had a good run, Rand.

KingGold on November 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

You’re an even bigger surrender monkey than Pétain.

steebo77 on November 5, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Quotes of the day

…am I in the right place?…wrong picture?…is there a troll feast going on?
WTF?

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Obamas approval numbers are cratering. Looks like people now realize he is a lying clown.

SparkPlug on November 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

This board is whacko tonight.

gophergirl on November 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

I read it. I’m outraged.

SparkPlug on November 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

I’ll get there … I am still busy on the VA thread.

gh on November 5, 2013 at 11:38 PM

You are so right RWM not only digusting but appalling.

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Not that there haven’t always been pr1ck cops, but I think a lot of the militarisation of domestic law enforcement agencies is the direct result of the GWOT. Yes, I know that this case involved a suspicion that the victim was carrying drugs, but LE agencies have become real anti-citizenry bullies. Small towns now have armoured vehicles and too many of the cops have taken on a militaristic mentality. They don’t seem to care about citizens’ rights and how much they trample upon them. It is frightening and, one day mark my words, some seriously bad shit is going to result.

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Obamas approval numbers are cratering. Looks like people now realize he is a lying clown.

SparkPlug on November 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

“Don’t tell me words don’t matter! ‘I have a dream.’ Just words. ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.’ Just words! [Applause.] ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself.’ Just words–just speeches!”

–Barack Obama, 16 February 2008

Just words–just speeches!

“That means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

– President Barack Obama, 15 June 2009

Just words–just speeches!

Here are the details that every American needs to know about this plan. First, if you are among the hundreds of millions of Americans who already have health insurance through your job, or Medicare, or Medicaid, or the VA, nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. Let me repeat this: Nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.

- President Barack Obama, 9 September 2009

Just words–just speeches!

‘Actually, ANY insurance that you currently have would be grandfathered in so you could keep it. So you could decide not to get in the exchange the better plan. I could keep my Acme Insurance, just a high deductible catastrophic plan. I would not be required to get the better one.’

- President Barack Obama, 25 February 2010

Just words–just speeches!

“If you like your doctor, you’re going to be able to keep your doctor. If you like your plan, keep your plan. I don’t believe we should give government or the insurance companies more control over health care in America. I think it’s time to give you, the American people, more control over your health.”

- President Barack Obama, 19 March 2010

Just words–just speeches!

“And if you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you. It hasn’t happened yet. It won’t happen in the future.”

– President Barack Obama, 1 April 2010

Just words–just speeches!

‘And let me tell you exactly what Obamacare did. Number one, if you’ve got health insurance it doesn’t mean a Government takeover. You keep your own insurance. You keep your own doctor. But it does say insurance companies can’t jerk you around. They can’t impose arbitrary lifetime limits. They have to let you keep your kid on their insurance—your insurance plan until you’re 26 years old. And it also says that you’re going to have to get rebates if insurance companies are spending more on administrative costs and profits than they are on actual care.’

- President Barack Obama, 4 October 2012

Just words–just speeches!

“Now, let’s start with the fact that even before the Affordable Care Act fully takes effect, about 85 percent of Americans already have health insurance -– either through their job, or through Medicare, or through the individual market. So if you’re one of these folks, it’s reasonable that you might worry whether health care reform is going to create changes that are a problem for you — especially when you’re bombarded with all sorts of fear-mongering. So the first thing you need to know is this: If you already have health care, you don’t have to do anything.”

- President Barack Obama, 25 September 2013

Just words–just speeches-just pathetic lies!

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:39 PM

yep all funded by the FEDS/DHS. The military style tactics and drills that have taken place in Miami and other cities across the country should be an eye-opener. Sadly, more than half this country is asleep. As evidenced by McAuliffe’s win tonight.

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM

The Traffic Stop/Anal Cavity Searches From Hell

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Resist We Much:

ICK,…and I’m eating yogurt,…..me has strong stomach for
dis crap!:)

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:42 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:42 PM

I’m laughing but feel your “pain.” lol

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

There’s something to be said about smart hiring and staff integrity here, but I’m sure it will just be written off as a leftist conspiracy.

You had a good run, Rand.

KingGold on November 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

You mean like us not having the chance to read anything Obama has written or peruse his grades?

kim roy on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

This board is whacko tonight.

gophergirl on November 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

gophergirl:The Open Virginia thread was a mine’d field—:0

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM


Heres a laugh:

Jobs,….jobs……jobs…….

Boston, MA, US
2m
***

President Obama called McAuliffe, de Blasio and Boston Mayor-elect Walsh,

vowing to work with them

to expand economic opportunity for middle class -

@CNNPolitics
read more on twitter.com

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:45 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

It was like someone turned on the light and the cockroaches scattered!!!

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:45 PM

You mean like us not having the chance to read anything Obama has written or peruse his grades?

kim roy on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Obama’s got the media covering his ass at every turn, so he’ll get away with that.

Rand Paul… doesn’t. Though I can’t determine whether his primary opponents will bash him over the head for this first or for the Civil Rights Act stuff first.

KingGold on November 5, 2013 at 11:46 PM

OMG canofor….I wished O would just be quiet for 24 hours. The man is shameless.

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:47 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:42 PM

I’m laughing but feel your “pain.” lol

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

CoffeeLover:Tee-hee:—-:)

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Not even the title sufficiently describes what those assh0les did to an innocent man.

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Speechless.

My wife occasionally pines for the stocks and public corporal punishment …

gh on November 5, 2013 at 11:48 PM

OMG canofor….I wished O would just be quiet for 24 hours. The man is shameless.

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:47 PM

CoffeeLover:Oooh I do agree on dats:)

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:48 PM

This board is whacko tonight.

gophergirl on November 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

gophergirl:The Open Virginia thread was a mine’d field—:0

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

I just scanned it. I was trying to figure out what GG (WSIN) was talking about, but I get it now. I see you guys had fun. :)

Not sorry I missed it, though. I have to say.

Hi, Sophie Ro. :)

. . . and you other people.

Axe on November 5, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Looks like an overblown story to me. Though it also shows why I dont want a Senator, with only a few years of experience, to be our nominee.

Valkyriepundit on November 5, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Obama’s got the media covering his ass at every turn, so he’ll get away with that.

Rand Paul… doesn’t. Though I can’t determine whether his primary opponents will bash him over the head for this first or for the Civil Rights Act stuff first.

KingGold on November 5, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Yes. Exactly. So what are we going to do about it? Bend over and grab the ankles and let the media continue to dictate our agenda.

Or are we going to fight back?

kim roy on November 5, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Hi Axe!!

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Many believed that the MSNBC host was attempting to reignite her long-standing feud with the senator, even at the risk of her credibility…

I think her “credibility” was safe.

Axe on November 5, 2013 at 11:51 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

It was like someone turned on the light and the cockroaches scattered!!!

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:45 PM

CoffeeLover:Lol,yup,alot of Snipers,haha:)

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Spontaneous Protests Caused By YouTube Videos Causing More Damage

Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Clever. May chaos destroy him/his. The thug is illegitimate after 2012, with certainty. Not determined what was before.

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Hi Axe!!

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:50 PM

:) Hi! And I must say that was very polite for being “other people’d.”

Axe on November 5, 2013 at 11:52 PM

kim roy on November 5, 2013 at 11:50 PM

KingGold will only fight someone if they’re a conservative.

steebo77 on November 5, 2013 at 11:53 PM

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

I just scanned it. I was trying to figure out what GG (WSIN) was talking about, but I get it now. I see you guys had fun. :)

Not sorry I missed it, though. I have to say.

Hi, Sophie Ro. :)

. . . and you other people.

Axe on November 5, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Axe:

I was posting linkys,…stayed above the fray,I was a UN Observer…(sarc):)

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:53 PM

For all their differences, Bush and Obama have nearly identical poll numbers at this point in their second terms …

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:54 PM

gophergirl:The Open Virginia thread was a mine’d field—:0

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

No kidding and it spilled to other threads.

Strange strange evening.

gophergirl on November 5, 2013 at 11:55 PM

KingGold will only fight someone if they’re a conservative.

steebo77 on November 5, 2013 at 11:53 PM

That’s no knife fight.

Schadenfreude on November 5, 2013 at 11:56 PM

gophergirl on November 5, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Ocare debacle wasn’t the topic. It was pent up! lol

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:57 PM

There’s something to be said about smart hiring and staff integrity here, but I’m sure it will just be written off as a leftist conspiracy.

You had a good run, Rand.

KingGold on November 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

He’ll be just fine. The race for 2016 is pretty much between him and Chris Christie at this point.

Punchenko on November 5, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Think it’s important to note that this isn’t enterprising Journalists digging this stuff up….it’s the Clinton Machine.

They have a dossier on everyone.

Rand Paul is going to have to be able to deal with this stuff a lot better.

AYNBLAND on November 5, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Punchenko on November 5, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Rand Paul called Christie a moderate and Christie shot back he’s a conservative. According to CNN, the elbos are out.

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Looks like an overblown story to me. Though it also shows why I dont want a Senator, with only a few years of experience, to be our nominee.

Valkyriepundit on November 5, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Christie has a stage, a mansion, and gravitas being a governor. Rand Paul doesn’t really have that and he has to show his supporters how he deals with a media bent on Freak Show Politics and making him look small.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:00 AM

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

It was like someone turned on the light and the cockroaches scattered!!!

CoffeeLover on November 5, 2013 at 11:45 PM

…well…I like that description!
…they!…are ALL THERE!…even DBare…made a guest appearance…until next years elections!

KOOLAID2 on November 6, 2013 at 12:01 AM

canopfor on November 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

No kidding and it spilled to other threads.

Strange strange evening.

gophergirl on November 5, 2013 at 11:55 PM

gophergirl:Yup,and it would’ve been different, I think, if Team Right had
won, maybes less trolls——:)

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:01 AM

OMG…Pierce Morgan just mispronounced Ken Cuccinelli’s name LOL.

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:02 AM

To you joining HA this fine and wacky evening.

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Murphy9:That was good:)

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:03 AM

KOOLAID2 on November 6, 2013 at 12:01 AM

There was very little sign of the WEASELS[1] until McAuliffe finally started to get close. So brave these lefties.

[1] I am trying to promote the use of ‘weasels’ instead of ‘trolls’.

gh on November 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Coffeelover!

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM

He’ll be just fine. The race for 2016 is pretty much between him and Chris Christie at this point.

Punchenko on November 5, 2013 at 11:58 PM

You think so? I don’t. No way in hell Cruz doesn’t jump in. The very last thing he can afford is a high-profile conservative upstaging him as the new Tea Party Hero, which means he gets thrown out of the tribe like yesterday’s garbage, just like what happened to Rubio. The more elections take place, the more risk of that happening.

I’m also certain that there’s going to be room for more governors in the race. Just you watch.

KingGold on November 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM

McAuliffe is a non-issue in VA. Our governors are pretty weak in VA. I cannot remember too many major changes under Warner (D), Kaine (D), or McDonnell (R).

With that said, Bill Bolling would have won since he would have the establishment behind him.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM

We have a plagiarist (much more serious charges BTW) as a VP. It will be hard for democrats to explain why Biden is qualified to be president and Paul isn’t based on these charges.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

How did you make out with your Halloween surprise?
I havent been so curious to ask but haven’t seen u!

Windy as hell here and raining.

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

bazil9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM

B9!!! (waving)

CoffeeLover on November 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

The Traffic Stop/Anal Cavity Searches From Hell
Resist We Much on November 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Jut read it… I am stunned and in disbelief that so many people (officers, medical personnel) could participate in that and have nary a concern that everything about that was wrong. Do we really have that many citizens who are a hair’s breadth from being SS/Gestapo/Concentration camp guards?

Marcola on November 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

…well…I like that description!
…they!…are ALL THERE!…even DBare…made a guest appearance…until next years elections!

KOOLAID2 on November 6, 2013 at 12:01 AM

KOOLAID2:Speaking of next year!!!!(sarc):)
==========================================

Mike O’Brien ‏@mpoindc 9m

Hey political reporters: DC’s Democratic mayoral primary is April 1, 2014 http://www.dcboee.org/election_info/election_year2014/Primary_Election.asp

canopfor on November 6, 2013 at 12:06 AM

With that said, Bill Bolling would have won since he would have the establishment behind him.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Proving that the establishment are azzholes, not only in VA. Once the primaries are over they don’t follow the Reagan rule.

In 2014 they will be paid back. It will be a bloodbath, for both parties.

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Do we really have that many citizens who are a hair’s breadth from being SS/Gestapo/Concentration camp guards?

Marcola on November 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Was a man like Obama just reelected to the highest office? The moral fiber of the American people is tattered, in shreds, decimated.

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 12:07 AM

You think so? I don’t. No way in hell Cruz doesn’t jump in. The very last thing he can afford is a high-profile conservative upstaging him as the new Tea Party Hero

The last thing he can afford is to jump in and lose. He’s already a Tea Party hero for life.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 12:07 AM

I’m also certain that there’s going to be room for more governors in the race. Just you watch.

KingGold on November 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Jindal (i hope).

Wisconsin (name won’t come tonight).

Palin (unlikely).

Perry (for sure).

gh on November 6, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Walker. Arghh… synapses just slow, not dead.

gh on November 6, 2013 at 12:08 AM

would have won since he would have the establishment behind him.

Punchenko on November 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Huntsman and his father are actively working to replace Sen. Lee with one of Romney’s sons. I hope they get cut to size. I used to respect few people more than the senior Huntsman. After the shenanigans in 2012 he can go directly to Hell. All the good he’s done went to pot. His weasely son doesn’t deserve any of it.

The Mitt camp, all of the his goons, are lower than assumed scum. They gave the dossiers of the Rs, RINOs and Cs to the media. To Hell with them too.

Schadenfreude on November 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

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