Open thread: Moment of truth in the Old Dominion; McAuliffe wins

posted at 6:41 pm on November 5, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Republican Gov. Chris Christie is cruising toward a historical win in uber-blue New Jersey tonight, but in tonight’s other, less certain gubernatorial race down in Virginia, lifelong Democratic fundraiser and “businessman” Terry McAuliffe is well-positioned to make some history of his own in the opposite direction: For three decades, Virginia’s one-term-limited governors have been elected from the party not sitting in the White House, but with an average lead of almost seven points going into this morning, it’s entirely possible that Virginia’s changing demographics and purplish new reality have killed the reliability of that pattern dead.

All of those years of Democratic fundraising weren’t for nothing, of course, and Team Terry has enjoyed a massive cash advantage throughout the race and used it to pummel Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli as a crazy-eyed social conservative in ad after ad after ad. Camp Cuccinelli, meanwhile, has lately turned to nurturing a full-force Republicans turnout; Virginia has a typically Republican lean in off-year elections, so that could be another possibly disrupted pattern to look for once all the dust has settled. Looking at the down-ticket races, especially Attorney General, could help to shed some light on whether the results will be all about the characteristics of McAuliffe v. Cuccinelli, or indicative of some deeper demographic shifts.

One of the big takeaways from the Old Dominion tonight will be the effect of the Libertarian candidate Robert Sarvis on the race; he’s been polling around a surprisingly solid 9 percent or so, according to the RCP average, and there has been plenty of contention about whether he is pulling away votes from McAuliffe and Cuccinelli equally or primarily harming Cuccinelli’s chances. How many people actually end up voting for Sarvis when push comes to shove is tough to predict, but for any of those potential Sarvis voters that might have been on the fence about it, this may have come as a rather unwelcome nugget of news this morning (or not, as the case may be). Via The Blaze:

A major Democratic Party benefactor and Obama campaign bundler helped pay for professional petition circulators responsible for getting Virginia Libertarian gubernatorial candidate Robert C. Sarvis on the ballot — a move that could split conservative votes in a tight race.

Campaign finance records show the Libertarian Booster PAC has made the largest independent contribution to Sarvis’ campaign, helping to pay for professional petition circulators who collected signatures necessary to get Sarvis’ name on Tuesday’s statewide ballot.

Austin, Texas, software billionaire Joe Liemandt is the Libertarian Booster PAC’s major benefactor. He’s also a top bundler for President Barack Obama.

Another big factor, as I mentioned above, are Virginia’s shifting demographics. Sean Trende explains:

We’ve talked a lot about demographics this year, but we’re finally going to get some good data. We’re getting exit polls in the races, as we did in 2009, and it couldn’t be more timely. One of the big question marks for Democrats going forward is whether Obama’s turnout among minority voters is transferable, or whether it is an Obama-specific phenomenon.

Gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe has invested scads of money trying to replicate the Obama turnout patterns. We should probably expect a bounce-back in Democratic groups from 2009, simply because that environment was so overwhelmingly lousy for Democrats (if we don’t, it’s a big problem for the party). But if the breakdowns look like 2012 or 2008, it’s a pretty good sign for Democrats.

Virginia’s polls close at 7 PM Eastern, and Virginia’s official election page as well as HuffPo‘s live results are both good places to watch the precinct reports start to stream in. Rural Virginia counties tend to get their vote counts in sooner, so the early stages of reporting might be a little misleading (you’ll recall that things looked that way in the Romney episode of yesteryear, as David Jarman points out), and I’ll be keeping an eye on things with updates below.

Update: Both Obama and Biden took some time to stump for McAuliffe over the past couple of days, and both largely avoided the subject of ObamaCare while President Obama really hammered the government shutdown as the major issue du jour. Suffice it to say that O probably wouldn’t have won McAuliffe any votes he didn’t already have by mentioning that “glitchy” living nightmare:

Update: And here come more exit polls:

Update: Here’s an exit-poll extravaganza from the Washington Post; it would seem that all of that “war-on-women”-izing in which Team Terry absurdly yet aggressively engaged came in mighty handy:

And again:

Update: Oh?

Update: Sean Trende has been filtering the incoming results through his model and chronicling the evolution thereof on his Twitter feed; things started out looking fairly favorable for Cuccinelli, but sounds like it’s getting tighter:

Update: The Associated Press is calling the lieutenant governor’s race for the Democrat, Ralph Northam:

Democratic state Sen. Ralph Northam defeated Republican E.W. Jackson in a race sharply defined by social issues.

Northam easily beat Jackson on Tuesday following a campaign that centered on Northam’s defense of abortion rights and Jackson’s Christian-based anti-abortion platform. Jackson also opposes gay marriage, while Northam supports it.

The winner succeeds Republican Bill Bolling. A Democrat hasn’t occupied the office since U.S. Sen. Tim Kaine was lieutenant governor in 2006.

Update: I must say, I would have estimated that somebody would have called this thing by now, but the counts are still going, and it’s definitely going to be quite a bit closer than many of the polls were predicting; NBC is still saying the race is “too close to call,” but the latest numbers are still looking like they’re in McAuliffe’s favor:

Update: Fox News is calling it, ya’ll:

Democrat Terry McAuliffe is projected to win the Virginia gubernatorial race, defeating Republican nominee Ken Cuccinelli in a surprisingly close victory.

Fox News projected McAuliffe as the winner Tuesday night.

Update: Wow, this race looks like it’s going to be way closer than the polls were generally predicting; with 92 percent of precincts reporting, we’re looking at only a 47 – 46 split between McAuliffe and Cuccinelli, with Sarvis at 7 percent.

Update: I would merely point out that McAuliffe outraised Cuccinelli by something like $16 million, a lot of it from bigger donors. I’m sure we can rely on hearing the Democrats’ usual outraged cries about the lamentable influence of big, outside money in politics any time now. …Yep, any time now.

Update: With 97 percent of precincts reporting, the split is still 47 – 46. (Emerson College kinda’ called that one, eh?)


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Reading this thread drives me crazy. This group couldn’t find its azz with both hands. We don’t deserve to win, just pay….
Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 6:44 AM

Yep. I’ve been reading through the rest of the election threads from last night and now a handful of aspirin are what’s for breakfast. The term herding cats comes to mind.

CTSherman on November 6, 2013 at 7:06 AM

Luckily we now have Obamacare to show the futility of such centralization and now is the time to pound that message home. McAuliffe, et. al. wish to hitch their wagon to a falling star and they seem to think that victory now is victory forever, while not even thinking that it could be winning a small battle in a losing cause.

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 7:02 AM

+1

cmsinaz on November 6, 2013 at 7:07 AM

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 6:49 AM

It would have made a huge difference. Here’s how Cucinelli could have won big. He lost by about 55k votes (2.5%), and the so-called Libertarian candidate got 145k votes.

1) Use Palin to get out the military vote in Tidewater. +10k
2) Use Palin to get out vote in conservative areas of state. +10K
3) Use Palin to switch Libertarian protest voters to Cucinelli. +20k
4) Use Tea Party to get out conservative vote in liberal areas. +20k
5) Embrace Gov McDonald +5k
6) Positive conservative agenda in urban areas. 10k

Total +75,000. Cucinelli wins

huckleberryfriend on November 6, 2013 at 7:23 AM

So the Donkey equivalent of Jack Abramoff is now guvnah of the Old Dominion. That’s right, the GOP could not find a candidate who could beat the famously corrupt holdover from 2 decades past.

So what was the GOP knight in shining armor up to that left him just shy of beating this dirty double dealing leftover? Why he wanted to make his campaign about sodomy! Brilliant! Because with Obamacare sitting there like a big, fat, hanging curve ball and with employment STILL sucking hind teet after 5 years of Obamanomics and with the NSA reading and listening to every bit and byte on the intertubes, with Iran days away from publically announcing nuke capability (odds are heavily in favor of them already having it), our guy thinks that people care mots about what others are doing with their man parts.

The party of stupid rides again.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 7:30 AM

Can a LIMITED GOVERNMENT Conservative win the Presidency?

After Tuesday night lets see where.

Indiana
North and South Dakota
Nebraska and Kansas
Alaska
Wyoming
Arkansas
Texas and Oklahoma
Mississippi
Louisiana
Alabama
Kentucky and Tennessee
Georgia
and South Carolina.

That’s all that would reliably go for a Tea Party / LIMITED GOV Conservative (or RINO for that matter).

Folks, barring a TITANIC shift in the views of the American people we’re not going to see anything but a Progressive in the White House for a long long time.

All the Dems / REAL Progressives have to do is outspend the other guy and have the media give him the Alinsky treatment and there you go…..perpetual political power.

And that doesn’t even consider the AMNESTY of 20 million illegals and an OPEN BORDER.

The ballot box speaks……ARE WE LISTENING?

PappyD61 on November 6, 2013 at 7:32 AM

huckleberryfriend on November 6, 2013 at 7:23 AM

While I will be the first to say I don’t know how, the Tea Party has got to counteract the ridiculous bad press. How in the world did a group of people asking for fiscal responsibility turn into the second coming of the KKK? I can’t even describe the depths of my feelings about the media.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:33 AM

huckleberryfriend on November 6, 2013 at 7:23 AM

Or he could have just, you know, campaigned a bit door to door in a few districts outside the beltway, held some town halls… and gotten his name and face known.

His campaign didn’t even show up out here in the just outside the beltway districts. True, TM didn’t show up either, but the DNC was organizing D footsoldiers for the delegate campaigns to serve as proxies… and well funded those were by the DNC!

Lack of name recognition, lack of a platform and lack of just showing up much of anywhere in close districts or even precincts cost Cuccinelli untold thousands of votes. The first and only time there was ANY outreach was AFTER the NRA lit a fire under his butt to point out the lack of his campaign to, you know, campaign.

The NRA seems to have a better idea of where votes are, what it takes to network people and how to get candidates to talk on issues than the Republican Party does. If the NRA formed a political party, I would join it in an instant as they appear to have a clue on these things. And by requiring gun rights support from all candidates, they could leave the rest of the party to figure out what they wanted… but all would have to agree that gun rights were central to one’s life and liberty. How come the NRA can figure out local politics and my local politicians who are Republicans can’t?

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 7:33 AM

Yet again, the Libertarians give another election to the Left.

Thanks Libertarians.

oldleprechaun on November 6, 2013 at 7:36 AM

How come the NRA can figure out local politics and my local politicians who are Republicans can’t?

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 7:33 AM

Good question

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 7:36 AM

I’m very bummed about the outcome in VA. My vote was obviously cancelled out by j@ck@ss low information voters in Northern Virginia, Richmond, Norfolk, and Charlottsville. So now we’re stuck with a tax-raising, gun-grabbing liberal so in love with abortion, he’s even cool with infanticide. Very depressing.

It was painful to see Cuccinelli getting hammered with television ads. What was it, $34 million against $18 million? Just painful. Why did Cuccinelli wait so long to play the Obamacare card? It was like he was marshalling his resources until “seeing the white of their eyes” while being carpet bombed by McAuliffe’s ads. Very frustrating, and depressing.

olesparkie on November 6, 2013 at 7:38 AM

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:33 AM

The TP has allowed itself to be hijacked by undisciplined amateurs who have no clue how to win. Obamacare is a perfect example of big government. It is a big, fat, hanging curve waiting to be swatted out of the park. Rather than let the inevitable crash-and-burn happen and pinning on those who own it, they decided to streak around the bases.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 7:40 AM

Welcome to new-Maryland, formerly known as the Commonwealth of Virginia.

As a lifelong Virginian, I have seen and experienced the prosperity and the great years under Governors Allen, Gilmore and McDonnell. Now, I believe it may be time to pack up my sh*t and move to greener pastures. This Commonwealth is now dictated by the government lemmings and spicks wetbacks “illegal aliens.” in Northern Virginia. This once great Commonwealth is fast becoming nothing more than an extension of the failures of northeastern liberals. If a “businessman” aka total scheister, is to run this state for the next four years, then there likely is no more hope for the mother of Presidents. Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Moonroe, and now …….. Terry McAuliffe? Is this what this once great Commonwealth has been reduced to? If so, then I give a big F*CK YOU to this once great Commonwealth. I’m outta here.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 7:40 AM

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 7:30 AM

Did he make his campaign about sodomy or did his opponent?

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 7:40 AM

Well find me some professionals that don’t want to be Democrats and I’m on board. Chris Christie isn’t the answer.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:43 AM

http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=SWR&map=CTY

Crap.

S. D. on November 6, 2013 at 7:39 AM

OY!

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 7:43 AM

While I will be the first to say I don’t know how, the Tea Party has got to counteract the ridiculous bad press. How in the world did a group of people asking for fiscal responsibility turn into the second coming of the KKK? I can’t even describe the depths of my feelings about the media.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:33 AM

All I heard here in Northern Virginia from the McAwful campaign was VAGINA VAGINA VAGINA KILL UNBORN CHILDREN UP TO 8.5 MONTHS VAGINA VAGINA VAGINA. Apparently that works now-a-days.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 7:44 AM

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM

In the end, he became known as the puritanical, social issues dude. Whether “he started it” or allowed himself to be branded that way is irrelevant.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 7:44 AM

I’m in a district where its Blue on the East and Red in the West, and while the D’s spent a lot of time in the more populous Eastern parts, they got trounced in the West, thus offering a slim margin in the end.

I think we might live in the same area.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 7:46 AM

I take the view that after gay equality that there are no groups out there who will be taken for reasonable victims. thuja on November 5, 2013 at 11:30 PM

emphasis mine.

You put that ‘reasonable’ in as a qualifier to the actual victims that will be taken, didn’t you? Because you know when homosexual ‘equality’ is forced upon us, Christians who refuse to deny God’s Law will become real victims. They are already suffering persecution in the way of fines, but it will get worse, and you know it. I suppose you would have cheered Nero at his homosexual ‘weddings’, and argued that the Christians being used as living torches for his orgies were simply unreasonable victims, wouldn’t you? But you are ‘winning’ so yay for you. Enjoy it now, because there will be hell to pay. So to speak.

Oh, the libertines are so happy. For thinking themselves wise they became fools. It couldn’t be spelled out more plainly. The writing is on the wall, but the libertines can’t or won’t see it. Blind fools…

The Chastisement is coming faster than even I expected, and that’s saying something.

pannw on November 6, 2013 at 7:47 AM

I wasn’t following the race but it looks like NYC has a full blown communist as mayor.
Jeez, the country really is lost.
This is all very depressing.
I think that the goal now is survival and trying to protect yourself and your family from the government thieves.
I never thought that I would live long enough to see all this actually happening.

justltl on November 6, 2013 at 7:48 AM

I suppose we know now that the TP is an $$$ hungry opportunists who lost the VA race last night

You can’t tell a woman who is raped that she must have the baby

You can’t tell a woman she CAN’T have an abortion

So many reason we lost but the main 2 are TP and women productive rights. And stupid ass women who believe the barrage of attacks

If we lose VA we are doomed to Dem rule forever.

Redford on November 6, 2013 at 7:48 AM

RNC sucks:

The RNC spent $9 million in 2009 to win and spent $3 million this time, pulling money out of Virginia, to lose by a hair. The RNC truly screwed up in Virginia this time and no amount of spinning can distract from that screw up. It was Election Day itself when someone finally noticed the 3rd party candidate, Sarvis, had been funded by a major Obama donor. Election Day the GOP finally notices this!

Source: RedState

petefrt on November 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM

good to know…
so with a GOP legislature, will mcauliffe be able to pass any of his left wing policies?

cmsinaz on November 6, 2013 at 5:58 AM

He’s a lame dick duck Governor from day one. Fine by me.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:43 AM

The fat man remains a possibility for me. One of several and I am a very long way from deciding who I would like to see on top.

I’m afraid many on the right have more litmus tests than a HS chemistry class. I think that the conservatives of all stripes need to be more flexible and open minded. I keep hearing the word “principles” repeated like a mantra, however the way it is used is far from how any dictionary would define it. Instead, I find that those on the right tend to accumulate a whole pile of them to use as a shorthand way of saying they are inflexible and unforgiving of any variance from their personal orthodoxy.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 7:50 AM

I think we might live in the same area.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 7:46 AM

Just north and a bit west in Sterling.

Land of overbuilt housing that is unsustainable without an unsustainable federal government to keep it going.

No shoe leather expended by Cuccinelli up here, just one NRA sponsored phone-in. They did another with my delegate. I’m coming to suspect that the slim lead of the local delegate is due to the NRA phone-meeting because he was outspend jillions to one by the DNC who was pushing a lackluster USAF desk flier as the big War on Wimminses defender.

Where is the Republican Party? It is noted as being absent in my neck of NoVA. Romney campaign excepted, they showed up. Not as often as the JW’s to be sure, but who does show up that often? Beyond the JW that is…

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 7:53 AM

I still wonder why Cucinelli didn’t bring in Palin. Have Palin and Tea Party hold rallies in Tidewater, Southside, and western VA and Cucineli wins.

He was already painted as far right and Tea Party, so why not embrace it instead of hiding from it. Plus the national Republican Party stiffed him, so he should have “gone rogue”. Getting within 3 points is still a loss. Go big or go home. Cucinelli is going home!

huckleberryfriend on November 6, 2013 at 6:23 AM

Without the Obama-campaign funded Libertarian Robert Sarvis, The Cooch wins. Fund a phony cantidate, wrap him in the veil of Libertarianism when he is anything but, and watch the so-called disgruntled pseudo-Conservatives jump on his sinking ship the S.S. Fraud, and then coast your way into the Governors mansion.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 7:54 AM

petefrt on November 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Well they showed us didn’t they?

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:55 AM

In the end, he became known as the puritanical, social issues dude. Whether “he started it” or allowed himself to be branded that way is irrelevant.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 7:44 AM

He was branded that way by his own party in an attempt to prove that a social conservative candidate would lose big in a purple state.

Instead he almost won with no support from the VA party or the national party.

All they proved on the end is that they don’t care if the people of VA have a corrupt slime bag for a governor.

And that a social conservative could win if they had supported him.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 7:57 AM

Yet again, the Libertarians give another election to the Left.

Thanks Libertarians.

oldleprechaun on November 6, 2013 at 7:36 AM

Please stop calling them Libertarians. They care nothing for Liberty, only license, or they wouldn’t vote for the left. Call them what they are, libertines, and greedy ones at that. They are the worst of the worst. I’d take a pro-life Dem over them any day of the week. At least they are merely deluded and not wicked. Of course, they are few and far between, obviously.

pannw on November 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 7:57 AM

Whoever branded him, however it happened (and I disagree with your reasoning, but that doesn’t matter) he ALLOWED himself to be branded that way. That is his fault. It is also yet another demonstration of how being the So Called SoCon dude these days makes you unable to even beat a pig like TM.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 8:02 AM

Yet again, the Libertarians give another election to the Left.

Thanks Libertarians.

oldleprechaun on November 6, 2013 at 7:36 AM

Please stop calling them Libertarians. They care nothing for Liberty, only license, or they wouldn’t vote for the left. Call them what they are, libertines, and greedy ones at that. They are the worst of the worst. I’d take a pro-life Dem over them any day of the week. At least they are merely deluded and not wicked. Of course, they are few and far between, obviously.

pannw on November 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM

Libertarians are the left. Except on economic issues where they’re just crazy.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Wow… VA is now a blue state. All 3 spots went blue….

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on November 6, 2013 at 8:07 AM

huckleberryfriend on November 6, 2013 at 7:23 AM

He didn’t br Palin in because 1) Palin only works for her own Palin-anointed candidates and Palin wouldn’t have been able to claim that she “made” him and 2) because bringing Palin in would have confirmed the McAuliffe portrait of Cooch as dangerous psychopathic Tea Partyer (n image that Cooch was desperate to shake off and driven away more moderates than should have attracted conservatives.

urban elitist on November 6, 2013 at 8:08 AM

It is also yet another demonstration of how being the So Called SoCon dude these days makes you unable to even beat a pig like TM.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 8:02 AM

No it’s an example of how a social conservative can almost beat a Clinton democrat who outspends him 10 to 1 in a state dominated by federal government workers and defense workers. There really can’t be any doubt that Cuccinelli with all his faults would have won if the party had supported him. Hell he would have won id they had remained neutral.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Just north and a bit west in Sterling.

Land of overbuilt housing that is unsustainable without an unsustainable federal government to keep it going.

No shoe leather expended by Cuccinelli up here, just one NRA sponsored phone-in. They did another with my delegate. I’m coming to suspect that the slim lead of the local delegate is due to the NRA phone-meeting because he was outspend jillions to one by the DNC who was pushing a lackluster USAF desk flier as the big War on Wimminses defender.

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 7:53 AM

Rgr that. I know the area. My delegate (Tom Rust) looks to be leading by a slim margin, too. We seem to be a small bastion of conservatism/anti-illegal immigration surrounded by nuttiness.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 8:09 AM

The narrative building continues apace. Confess!

Murphy9 on November 6, 2013 at 8:14 AM

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 8:09 AM

I see. So, in your opinion, losing a tight race to this guy is something to be proud of. Wow, talk about lowering the bar. I do hope you’re enjoying your moral victory.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM

“As I write, Mark Obenshain is behind by about 500 votes. This is the Virginia Attorney General race, and it’s the only thing standing between us and a complete Democratic sweep. Obenshain is one of the reasons I went to the polls yesterday (although I voted for Cuccinelli too, as anyone should have expected given my posts for the last six years), and it looks like we’re going to a recount to find out if he made it.

Ben Domenech had “10 lessons for the GOP from Cuccinelli’s campaign” in yesterday’s Transom and he made it available at the Federalist. I beg you, read it before you try and guess at what happened here in Virginia. His 2, 3, and 8 are what really killed it.

Oh, and despite the fantasies of people who, er, can’t read, it wasn’t that the party abandoned Cuccinelli. That would be comforting fantasy for Cuccinelli’s folks, but it just doesn’t work when you look at the actual numbers.

Updated to add: Geraghty’s post-mortem this morning should definitely be read…” – Gabriel Malor AOSHQ

links at this link
http://ace.mu.nu/

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 8:17 AM

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 8:02 AM

The problem wasn’t the tag but the lack of the campaign to actually campaign.

Cuccinelli, it must be remembered, IS a skilled politician who has won State-wide election for AG. He is a ‘professional’ and sought to get out of the primary process by going to the Republican Party Honchos to get out of primary land. They agreed to it.

That was the #1 most unwise thing to do as the candidate hadn’t run for Governor before and didn’t realize you needed a different suite of skills to win that race. He would have been well served by even a minor primary opponent who would have brought out the weaknesses in the campaign structure (and they were monumental) and would have also gotten Cuccinelli’s name out, what he was running for out, and put him the recent memories of those who would later decide if they wanted to go to the polls. A primary is more than just getting rid of bad politicians: it is a means to season good ones who should relish such a campaign to raise their name recognition.

Without that recognition why would anyone want to contribute to him? What was he running on? What was his message? Hell, what did he look like? And how was he going to build out a State-wide campaign at least at the district level without a primary to focus him on the necessity of doing that.

Yes he allowed his message to get over-ridden by the MFM.

He decided to NOT get it out earlier, he decided to NOT want to be primaried, and he decided that he could do with such a marginal campaign that no one even got to hear of them until AFTER the NRA came out to support him and started calling people about it. The NRA has figured out local politics. If the NRA ever formed a political party, I would join it in an instant as it has a clue about how to network people and be in contact with them. Why can’t Republican Party ‘professionals’ figure this out? And, yes, Cuccinelli hired on a team of ‘professionals’ and had one of the most lack luster campaigns I’ve never seen.

The people who were coming in like Rand Paul were doing their best to get a campaign started at that point because it had fallen flat on its face months previously and couldn’t get up. It still came within a couple of points of TM and the DNC machine that poured money into races at ALL levels. Whatever they spent on the Governor’s race will probably be dwarfed by the amount they spent on individual delegate campaign ad buys. They wanted a wave, they got the whitecaps and scum at the top.

Before assigning blame look at the candidate as a candidate, and the campaign he ran as a campaign: they sucked. Not due to ideology but due to it not being run at all well. The RNC can only get some blame: the local party and the candidate get the burden of it. The lesson is: never let a candidate be exempt from a primary. They are hiding something. Get it out in the open with even a minor primary so it can be seen and addressed. That didn’t happen and KC desperately needed a wake-up call a good 6-8 months ago. Didn’t happen. The result is plain for all to see.

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Link to Domenech’s piece

http://thefederalist.com/2013/11/05/10-lessons-republicans-virginia/

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 8:19 AM

I see. So, in your opinion, losing a tight race to this guy is something to be proud of. Wow, talk about lowering the bar. I do hope you’re enjoying your moral victory.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM

The race wasn’t against him. It was against him and people like you un the republican party who betrayed the people of Va.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Rgr that. I know the area. My delegate (Tom Rust) looks to be leading by a slim margin, too. We seem to be a small bastion of conservatism/anti-illegal immigration surrounded by nuttiness.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Its David Ramadan vs the desk flier here.

I’ve done federal contracts from the federal side. I’m not impressed with the USAF desk flier.

And we are, indeed, the ones on the line at this point.

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 8:20 AM

I wonder if the same people complaining about how little was spent in Virginia are the same who stayed at home for Romney and constantly said they wouldn’t send money to him. Me thinks they are and don’t see the hypocrisy.

Zaggs on November 6, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 7:55 AM

I never expected to be fighting the GOP, but when the establishment refuses to support its base… in fact, works actively against it… they leave us no choice. Sorry state of affairs.

Just made modest donations to NRSC and Freedom Works to suggest I am encouraged that we did so well in VA, despite the RNC.

We did well in VA. Winning would have been better. And in retrospect, so doable.

petefrt on November 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM

The problem wasn’t the tag but the lack of the campaign to actually campaign.
ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 8:18 AM

When Perry ran his last gubernatorial race in Texas he was primaried by Hutchinson who was backed by Bush Dynasty Inc.

Perry campaigned in every county in Texas…254 in a state where folks measure miles by the amount of time it takes to drive to the next destination.

She outspent him and he brought in Palin towards the end to rally the base and that boost helped him too.

He also got lucky when Medina had a public meltdown.

By and large though campaigning in every county…Townhalls and meet and greets won the day.

If voters see someone work that hard for their vote…It can win their vote.

If Republicans want to win the WH…That’s the way to do it.

Old School Campaigning.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 8:27 AM

To give a real clear picture of where we are on the media food chain…..how does a candidate for Lt. Gov. openly refuse to shake hands with his opponent and get away with it. Add to the mix, that said opponent is black. Double or triple standards anyone?

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

He didn’t br Palin in because 1) Palin only works for her own Palin-anointed candidates and Palin wouldn’t have been able to claim that she “made” him and 2) because bringing Palin in would have confirmed the McAuliffe portrait of Cooch as dangerous psychopathic Tea Partyer (n image that Cooch was desperate to shake off and driven away more moderates than should have attracted conservatives.

urban elitist on November 6, 2013 at 8:08 AM

My point exactly.

He didn’t bring in Palin.
He didn’t embrace the Tea Party.
He lost.

Conservatives win by being conservative, not by pretending to be moderates.

huckleberryfriend on November 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Its David Ramadan vs the desk flier here.

I’ve done federal contracts from the federal side. I’m not impressed with the USAF desk flier.

And we are, indeed, the ones on the line at this point.

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Ahh, ok. I see Ramadan signs all over the place. He’s a good guy. The nasty claims from Tom Rust’s opponent was over the top.

I am very impressed with some of the young Republicans we have in Richmond. I like Ramadan, Miller, Lingamfelter and Albo, just to name a few. I still reject the claim that VA is now a blue state. The state legislature does not reflect that, and without the Obama-funded Robert Sarvis, Cooch would have won last night.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

To give a real clear picture of where we are on the media food chain…..how does a candidate for Lt. Gov. openly refuse to shake hands with his opponent and get away with it. Add to the mix, that said opponent is black. Double or triple standards anyone?

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Doesn’t matter. He’s a lib, so he gets a free pass.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 8:18 AM

OK. In essence you are saying that his loss to a dirty schlub who belongs in a cage was due to his poor campaign which could not get a message out and not a reflection of what he stood for (or came to be known as standing for). I don’t know enough about the race to contradict you (I happen to feel that Romney lost for the same reason, with the exception that Romney had a great message that he failed to get out).

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM

VA is chock full of low information voters, a nest of liberals and morons. The establishment GOP needs to be cleaned out or the entire world will suffer. McConnell is a loathsome elitist. And Preibus is a bag of hot air (not disparaging HA of course). The situation we are in, has become untenable and unbelievable and true conservatism is our only hope. We have GOT to clean house in 2014. God Save America.

ultracon on November 6, 2013 at 8:36 AM

ajacksonian on November 6, 2013 at 8:18 AM

True, I don’t think the candidate made as good use of the face time he got, but by the same token, that is a big disparity in money. I have to ask folks in VA something. I was only in the state for October and I have to say the ads that stuck out in my mind most was for the Attorney General position. Mr. Obenshain kept saying that his opponent wasn’t doing much to fight sexual trafficing, is that a big problem in VA. It may be that my subconscious was just keying on the phrase since it was odd.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM

One positive note, MacAuliffe will grow the Republican Party with his liberal policies, just like oba-mao. But Virginia and the rest of the country will suffer. Virginia will get what it asked for and I will laugh at their misery. Elections have consequences you idiots.

ultracon on November 6, 2013 at 8:38 AM

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Dude, you seem upset.If gay rights and abortion are so important to you just go vote democratic. You’ll be much happier.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 8:39 AM

without the Obama-funded Robert Sarvis, Cooch would have won last night.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Bump.

petefrt on November 6, 2013 at 8:40 AM

petefrt on November 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM

How in the world do constituents make their point to the Party? I had my name taken off the donors list, I am still planning to go back to unaffiliated because I just don’t see the Republican Party being the vehicle for smaller government. They just want different bigger government. At what point do they get a clue that actual votes count as much as corporate/Kstreet donations. Rich and out of power must be an appealing vision.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:42 AM

petefrt on November 6, 2013 at 8:40 AM

That piece of news needed to come out a day or two earlier.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM

Sarvis was an oba-mao pawn and a disgrace. Typical pol…. it was all about him, not the state of VA. The brainless twits that voted for him, voted for MacAuliffe. I am constantly amazed, but hardly ever surprised.

ultracon on November 6, 2013 at 8:44 AM

MJ Brutus is wrong.

Cuccinelli never made it about sodomy. that is what the Left and the MSM made it about. Had they not had it, they would have invented it!

Truth is demographics drive elections. What is Virgina made up of?

1. Government workers/union workers who have a stake in keeping things going as is- big government.
2. Liberals transplanted into the state attracted by the government jobs. MOST government workers are now liberal. It took generations, affirmative action, bad schooling, but here we are.
3. Welfare/entitlement mentality voters. If you separated the bigger cities away from the rural areas and looked at their percentages, you would realize the truth here.
4. Hispanics? That is what they say, but I have no doubt three percent could easily be Hispanics. What do they want? They want a seat at the table, the government trough, once held by blacks. That will be the upcoming fight inside the Democrat party.

5. The sandbagging libertarian party. It allowed a candidate, funded by an Obama bundler, to muck up the election again.

Think about about this for a second. Going backwards in timelines. If Ross Perot doesn’t run, GHB wins. Clinton fades into the background taking Hillary and Gore and Soros and McCauliffe with him.

One jug eared man led us to a time where we are dealing with what we are dealing with. Arguably, if Hillary isn’t running in 2008 and a stronger dem candidate is, maybe no Obama. So, one jug eared man led us to another. Nothing occurs in a vacuum.

Times are a changing. This ain’t your daddy’s America anymore.

archer52 on November 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM

ultracon on November 6, 2013 at 8:36 AM

I’m not there yet. I like McConnel on the whole. I’m wondering if we can’t start by getting rid of “The Architect”. This guy and his ilk are raking in money not to support people. I think a look at their books might be interesting.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM

archer52 on November 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM

So he did fundamentally change America. Can we go back? I don’t know how you rebuild a nation of freeloaders.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM

The demorats successfully demonized Cuccinelli on Women’s issues. The ads here in NoVa were relentless and totally lacking fact. There were a few Cuccinelli ads countering it but were ineffective.

We have suffered and survived democrat governors before but never such a sleaze ball as we now have.

However. McDonald/Cuccinelli had shielded Virginia from the worst effects of Obamacare up to this point and perhaps that was a mistake. The backlash from Obamacre was not as much of a factor people think.

I think Virgina will feel the full effects of the socialists crap in the next few years.

TerryW on November 6, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Ahh, ok. I see Ramadan signs all over the place. He’s a good guy. The nasty claims from Tom Rust’s opponent was over the top.

I am very impressed with some of the young Republicans we have in Richmond. I like Ramadan, Miller, Lingamfelter and Albo, just to name a few. I still reject the claim that VA is now a blue state. The state legislature does not reflect that, and without the Obama-funded Robert Sarvis, Cooch would have won last night.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

It’s not? VA elected Obama twice. McDonnell, a Republican, has higher approval that Cooch or McAluffie and we lost? Simple, Dems got their ppl to the polls. The same majority of minorities VOTED in this race that voted in 2012 for Obama.

This doesn’t bode well for next year, regardless of any spin.

Redford on November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Conservatives win by being conservative, not by pretending to be moderates.

huckleberryfriend on November 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Conservatives win by controlling the definition of conservatism…and selling that common sense to the voters.

When Conservatives allow Liberals to define conservatism they lose.

LIV’s don’t understand national debt or deficits…LIV’s don’t understand basic economics…Easy to be manipulated.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

One positive note, MacAuliffe will grow the Republican Party with his liberal policies, just like oba-mao. But Virginia and the rest of the country will suffer. Virginia will get what it asked for and I will laugh at their misery. Elections have consequences you idiots.

ultracon on November 6, 2013 at 8:38 AM

McAwful won’t get sh*t through the state legislature. The Virginia Senate is knotted-up 50-50, and the Republicans have a 2-1 advantage in the House of Delegates. The only way McAwful gets anything done is if he bypasses the State Legislature. Like I said before, he’ll be a lame dick duck Governor.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 8:51 AM

I’m not there yet. I like McConnel on the whole. I’m wondering if we can’t start by getting rid of “The Architect”. This guy and his ilk are raking in money not to support people. I think a look at their books might be interesting.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:45 AM

I wouldn’t mind if the “Architect” didn’t just dissappear to never be heard from again. The guy is a noose around our necks.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 8:54 AM

McAwful won’t get sh*t through the state legislature. The Virginia Senate is knotted-up 50-50, and the Republicans have a 2-1 advantage in the House of Delegates. The only way McAwful gets anything done is if he bypasses the State Legislature. Like I said before, he’ll be a lame dick duck Governor.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Yeah…But he’ll use that situation to help Killary when she runs.

Only Killary can bi-partisan save the country or something.

And that’s why they put him there.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 8:54 AM

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Dude, you seem upset.If gay rights and abortion are so important to you just go vote democratic. You’ll be much happier.

kcewa on November 6, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Just goes to show you that we have our own LIV in our party. I mean people who think that sodomy, abortion or even BCP are suddenly going to be legally banned short of a reversal by SCOTUS are as nuts and as ignorant as the Dems who somehow think that changing the Voting rights act will bring back whole sale minority voter disenfranchisement.

melle1228 on November 6, 2013 at 8:59 AM

It’s not? VA elected Obama twice. McDonnell, a Republican, has higher approval that Cooch or McAluffie and we lost? Simple, Dems got their ppl to the polls. The same majority of minorities VOTED in this race that voted in 2012 for Obama.

This doesn’t bode well for next year, regardless of any spin.

Redford on November 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM

No, it’s not. If you get out to where I live and then go further west, it’s very conservative. Most of the stae is except for a few lib/communist strongholds. Look at the state legislature, 50-50 in the senate and a more than 2-1 Republican advantage in the House of Delegates. If we could annex VA inside the beltway, this stae would be a different story. Without the Obama-funded Sarvis, Cooch wins by at least 3 points.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 8:59 AM

I am so depressed this morning. Even though it’s not nearly as bad a loss as I feared, even though McAwful only won by a small margin and even though I was expecting it I’m still depressed. That so many people could vote for such a slimy worthless shyster as McAuliffe is just depressing.

Oldnuke on November 6, 2013 at 9:02 AM

melle1228 on November 6, 2013 at 8:59 AM

I can’t figure out how either of you set out on this road you’re travelling, but it is a path of your own making. You see, I never said that those issues mattered to me. I said that they are electoral poison. Nice try, though.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Yeah…But he’ll use that situation to help Killary when she runs.

Only Killary can bi-partisan save the country or something.

And that’s why they put him there.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 8:54 AM

By the time Killery/Hitlery/Shitlery runs, it’s likely 2+ million Virginians will have lost their healthcare. VA is coal country, and …….. nevermind, those f*cking a-holes supported McAwful. VA is also heavily military, especially in SE VA. No way Benghazi Killery sways that voting block.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM

I am so depressed this morning. Even though it’s not nearly as bad a loss as I feared, even though McAwful only won by a small margin and even though I was expecting it I’m still depressed. That so many people could vote for such a slimy worthless shyster as McAuliffe is just depressing.

Oldnuke on November 6, 2013 at 9:02 AM

He’ll be a miserable failure, so take some solace in that.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM

melle1228 on November 6, 2013 at 8:59 AM

It is really sad how disconnected people are. When I first got back to VA my sister was telling me how horrible Cooch was because he wanted to ban abortion and outlaw contraceptives. This came as quite a shock to me on so many levels. First I was unaware that my 69 year old sister of manically pro-choice and worried about contraceptives. Then I asked her just how the governor of Virginia was going to do any of those things even if he did want to. No answer. Then later, she went to a gun show and bought herself a shiny new handgun and found out that McAwful would like to strongly curtail her right to own and carry. Long story longer, people’s votes are just on trip out of the house or turning on the TV. At least she doesn’t want the government to support her.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Just goes to show you that we have our own LIV in our party. I mean people who think that sodomy, abortion or even BCP are suddenly going to be legally banned short of a reversal by SCOTUS are as nuts and as ignorant as the Dems who somehow think that changing the Voting rights act will bring back whole sale minority voter disenfranchisement.

melle1228 on November 6, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Here’s what we’re up against…Chit like this

“I finally did it. I bagged Thomas Jefferson,” the term-limited Mr. Barron declares, calling Mr. Jefferson a “slaveholding pedophile.” “And I’m on my way out of the City Council up to Albany so I can bag the governor and bag the speaker.”

Aaaand…chit like this

” Abraham Lincoln a Democrat? Northeastern Illinois Univ. says so

Twitter posters were up in arms after a follower posted a picture of a building affiliated with Northeastern Illinois University that includes a plaque honoring the nation’s 16th president — as a Democrat.

The Jacob Carruthers Center for Inner City Studies of Northeastern Illinois University has this plaque on its exterior, the news aggregation site Weazel Zippers found: “This building is dedicated to public service honoring the memory of Abraham Lincoln Democrat.”

Mr. Lincoln, of course, was not. And Twitter posters were quick to point out the error.

“Shows you how uneducated the Dems/Libs are. Lincoln started the Republican Party,” one wrote.

Another wrote: “Lincoln a DEM???”

And in reply to that poster, another wrote: “No but these DEMs aren’t that bright. He was actually from the Whig Party then Republican.”

http://collegeinsurrection.com/2013/11/plaque-at-northeastern-illinois-university-calls-abraham-lincoln-a-democrat/

Now multiply this idiocy into classrooms and text books at every level across America and compounded in the Media, on the internet and in the Pulpits.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:11 AM

“No shoe leather expended by Cuccinelli up here”

This, X 10,000. No exposure, no attempt to beat the other guy, no advertising, but hey, it’s “my” fault the other guy won.

Bleh.

Jess1 on November 6, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Yeah…But he’ll use that situation to help Killary when she runs.

Only Killary can bi-partisan save the country or something.

And that’s why they put him there.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 8:54 AM

By the time Killery/Hitlery/Shitlery runs, it’s likely 2+ million Virginians will have lost their healthcare. VA is coal country, and …….. nevermind, those f*cking a-holes supported McAwful. VA is also heavily military, especially in SE VA. No way Benghazi Killery sways that voting block.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Maybe…But all she’s gotta do is herd the womynz.

Like McCauliffe did…and win ugly.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

“But all she’s gotta do is herd the womynz.”

And have the GOP run like scared rabbits away from even responding. Don’t forget that part.

Jess1 on November 6, 2013 at 9:16 AM

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

You and I disagree on just about everything but I will have to stick up with you on this one. These are just not the subjects that are plaguing this country right now. Their only importance at this point is how they are used against the Right. They are still important to me as a person, but it’s times to change hearts when you can’t change laws.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Three months ago I took my son back to the neighborhood I grew up in Northern VA (I now live in PA). It was a neighborhood that was very pro-Reagan during the eighties. The demographic was solidly white, with a couple of black families, and all of us kids played together and there was never a conversation about skin color.

Fast-forward to 2013. My son and I drove through that same neighborhood, which had become solidly Hispanic, without a single white family visible outside on a sunny Saturday afternoon. It surprised me. My son even said to me, “Dad, I didn’t know you were the minority when you were growing up.” Of course, I wasn’t but he obviously saw what I was seeing.

Virginia was once reliably conservative, but is now occupied by people whose social liberal ideals trump all logic. 20% make abortion their primary voting issue??? Not in the Virginia I remember. But the data doesn’t lie.

The biggest problem for Republicans is that in elections where the outcome for the state is determined by urban areas, the Presidency and Senate races will be out-of-reach. The urban areas are tightly controlled by Dems. They threaten that the stream of free stuff will be cut-off if Republicans win. They tell young women that Republicans want to control their womb. And there is no GOP presence in these areas to challenge this false messaging or voter fraud.

The U.S., and many states are going to be faced with divided government. Elections determined by districts will likely still favor Republicans, and elections determined by popular vote will be controlled by Dems via the urban populations.

Maybe a second look at having each congressional district equal one electoral vote for President, and equal one vote for Senate seats? Dems would have to moderate come of their extremely socialist viewpoints to win those elections.

goflyers on November 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM

He’ll be a miserable failure, so take some solace in that.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM

He’s not here to succeed at anything. He’s here solely to pave the road for Hillary. He can’t accomplish anything legislatively he’s totally blocked. All he can do is use the office to spin up support for Hillary and he’ll do that. He’s got enough base here in NoVa and around places like Charlottesville to make sure she’s on the ballot and gets the Democratic nomination in Virginia. That’s all he’s here for. It’s still depressing…but I’ll get over it and go on with the fight.

Oldnuke on November 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Cindy,

The short answer to “can we go back” is no. It just is. We’ve seen neighborhoods decay, cities decay, states decay, even entire regions of our nation decay. It is the natural order of things. If not, we’d be dealing with the Roman Empire today instead of a country like Italy that cannot get out of its own self destructive way. Same with the Greeks and the Egyptians.

We have the energy and resources to recreate a neighborhood. But the effort, energy and resources to remodel a state or a region is beyond anyone’s ability. Events will shape that.

Add the Hispanic influence, many coming from socialist nations, and I’m afraid outside certain states and areas of states we are pretty much screwed.

Our nation is destined to become a class separated society. Not by race, but by circumstance. The Hillary/Soros/McAuffile/Gore and big business cross-overs will rule. They will be supported by a large and powerful administrative government run by policy makers who will switch back and forth between private and public sector jobs- often influencing policy in order to promote their private effort (Larry Summers, Tim Geithner, Bernanke, et. al.) They believe they can manage our nation and our lives(to their profit of course) better than we can.

That will continue until the money runs out or the people simply revolt. (one serious DHS worry)

There are two movies that unconsciously or consciously exemplified this outcome. The original of course was the Matrix- and yes we, and our families, are the batteries. Our effort, our work, our taxes fund them. They control our reality through media, politics, government and education (and soon healthcare).

The second was “Hunger Games”. I had no idea what that was until both of my teenage kids went nuts over the books and the movie. I watched the movie with great interest. My daughter said, “Imagine that kind of nation where one central government controls the lives of all the districts”

I told her frankly it is not that hard to imagine.

Not at all.

archer52 on November 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM

It is really sad how disconnected people are. When I first got back to VA my sister was telling me how horrible Cooch was because he wanted to ban abortion and outlaw contraceptives. This came as quite a shock to me on so many levels. First I was unaware that my 69 year old sister of manically pro-choice and worried about contraceptives. Then I asked her just how the governor of Virginia was going to do any of those things even if he did want to. No answer. Then later, she went to a gun show and bought herself a shiny new handgun and found out that McAwful would like to strongly curtail her right to own and carry. Long story longer, people’s votes are just on trip out of the house or turning on the TV. At least she doesn’t want the government to support her.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM

My middle class sister who is usually a fairly rational individual still thinks Obamacare could work if republicans would quit obstructing or something…

She doesn’t pay attention and won’t pay attention until it hurts her family directly and then because she listens to the MSM she’ll probably blame Ted Cruz.

The conditioning is insidious…and most folks are in a light coma of ignorance because that light coma is a comfy bubble of self indulgence which liberals exploit expertly.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

“But all she’s gotta do is herd the womynz.”

And have the GOP run like scared rabbits away from even responding. Don’t forget that part.

Jess1 on November 6, 2013 at 9:16 AM

In a nutshell.

ID Politics…Divide & Conquer

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:23 AM

You see, I never said that those issues mattered to me. I said that they are electoral poison. Nice try, though.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM

They should matter to you, because they are not merely electoral poison, they are CULTURAL poison. Immorality is why we are where we are and going where we are going like a bat out of hell, only we’re headed into it.

Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them.

pannw on November 6, 2013 at 9:23 AM

archer52 on November 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM

There are days when I am thrilled that I am both a senior citizen and have no grandchildren.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:25 AM

He’s not here to succeed at anything. He’s here solely to pave the road for Hillary. He can’t accomplish anything legislatively he’s totally blocked. All he can do is use the office to spin up support for Hillary and he’ll do that. He’s got enough base here in NoVa and around places like Charlottesville to make sure she’s on the ballot and gets the Democratic nomination in Virginia. That’s all he’s here for. It’s still depressing…but I’ll get over it and go on with the fight.

Oldnuke on November 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM

I don’t think the Vagina-bandwagon will take VA. By that time, the full effects of Obamacare will be hitting most Virginians. Yes, there will be the reliable vagina-voters, but I think most sensible women see through Killery.

RandallinHerndon on November 6, 2013 at 9:27 AM

The biggest problem for Republicans is that in elections where the outcome for the state is determined by urban areas, the Presidency and Senate races will be out-of-reach. The urban areas are tightly controlled by Dems. They threaten that the stream of free stuff will be cut-off if Republicans win. They tell young women that Republicans want to control their womb. And there is no GOP presence in these areas to challenge this false messaging or voter fraud.

The U.S., and many states are going to be faced with divided government. Elections determined by districts will likely still favor Republicans, and elections determined by popular vote will be controlled by Dems via the urban populations.

Maybe a second look at having each congressional district equal one electoral vote for President, and equal one vote for Senate seats? Dems would have to moderate come of their extremely socialist viewpoints to win those elections.

goflyers on November 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Yep!

If Amnesty passes it’s over for a very long time…If Amnesty doesn’t pass it’s all about that for a very long time.

Cause it’s all about identity politics.

The malcontents thrive on it.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

This is what happens when we aspire to mediocrity with a strong dose of self-esteem. Chances are that your sister and her family will be directly impacted by next year. I would love to hear just how the Republicans are obstructing anything, the law is going into effect just as it was passed. Sometimes asking these questions and getting the convoluted answers are my only form of enterainment.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM

entertainment, sorry, I clicked submit before correcting.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Add the Hispanic influence, many coming from socialist nations, and I’m afraid outside certain states and areas of states we are pretty much screwed.

archer52 on November 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Yeah…That’s a big problemo.

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:31 AM

pannw on November 6, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Time to change hearts, we have failed at laws.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:31 AM

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

This is what happens when we aspire to mediocrity with a strong dose of self-esteem. Chances are that your sister and her family will be directly impacted by next year. I would love to hear just how the Republicans are obstructing anything, the law is going into effect just as it was passed. Sometimes asking these questions and getting the convoluted answers are my only form of enterainment.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM

I posted a recent conversation with her on another thread.

We were discussing Obamacare,how it effects job numbers and the failure of the roll out…yada yada yada

Bottom line is she decided that because I’m an artist…I’m stupid.

I said “Well next year I’ll welcome you to the neighborhood of the Workin’ Po’…so you won’t feel lonely…”

She said what’s the “Working Poor”…huh?

I said “It’s a Government term for you don’t qualify…and you’ll get used to that term”

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:36 AM

I would love to hear just how the Republicans are obstructing anything, the law is going into effect just as it was passed. Sometimes asking these questions and getting the convoluted answers are my only form of enterainment.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Cognitive Dissonance can be entertaining…

workingclass artist on November 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM

pannw on November 6, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Funny thing how atheists like me are unmoved by biblical passages.

MJBrutus on November 6, 2013 at 9:49 AM

petefrt on November 6, 2013 at 9:41 AM

According to someone on another thread the RNC spent more in NJ than VA, it’s time for them to answer some questions. Can they live off the donations from Kstreet and the possibility of a small percentage of Democrat votes? I don’t think they can.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM

That piece of news needed to come out a day or two earlier.

Cindy Munford on November 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM

It’s appallingly inept that it went unnoticed until election day. And even then, it took a Glenn Beck listener to blow the whistle on it.

Sarvis needed to be marginalized early on as the faux libertarian that he is. I have to wonder who voted for this jerk. Not many real libertarians, I hope, especially after Ron Paul endorsed Cooch.

petefrt on November 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM

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