Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on November 4, 2013 by Allahpundit

The New Jersey governor’s race, where Republican incumbent Gov. Christopher Christie maintained leads of about 2-1 for months, ends with the governor leading State Sen. Barbara Buono, his Democratic challenger, 61 – 33 percent among likely voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll completed last night and released today…

Christie leads 66 – 29 percent among men and 57 – 36 percent among women, 94 – 5 percent among Republicans and 64 – 29 percent among independent voters. He even gets 30 percent of Democrats, to Buono’s 64 percent.

“That weekend bus ride around the Garden State must have felt like a victory tour for Gov. Christopher Christie” said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute…

“With his appeal to independent voters, and even Democrats, Christie-for-President 2016 begins a few minutes after 8 o’clock tomorrow night.”

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“People expect government to work for them … and you can compromise without compromising your principals,” he told POLITICO. “It’s not a dirty word. That’s what we’ve proven over four years in New Jersey… I know what’s gone on here in New Jersey and what’s happening here is not the result of the last six months. It’s the result of the last four years.”…

One voter, who drove an antique car with her father and parked it outside the pastry shop, carried around a sign for the assembled media: “Here I am with the future president of the United States.”

“If Chris Christie has a big win on Tuesday, he’s going to march off to Iowa and tell conservative Republican caucus-goers: “Here’s how I did it. I demonized the unions; put the teachers in their place; stuck to my pro-life, anti-gay marriage, no-new-gun-laws agenda; and I never backed away from the principles of supply-side economics. When Obama came to town – well, that was just me doing my job,’” said Buono strategist John Del Cecato. “‘But I’m a rock-ribbed conservative, and I never moderated myself for a minute. And you know what? I won.’”

He added, “That should give Democrats heartburn for a few reasons. First, he’s telling other Republican governors that right-wing policies can carry the day in a blue state if you dress them up with colorful language and a devil-may-care attitude. Second, it gives him a good shot at the GOP presidential nomination. Democrats who comfort themselves by thinking Christie somehow can’t make it through a primary are fooling themselves.”

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“He’s the guy whose big message to the party is ‘I can win’,” a senior establishment Republican in Washington told The Daily Telegraph, contrasting Mr Christie’s can-do persona to the ultra-ideological Tea Party faction that came to the fore last month by forcing a US government shutdown. “As much as the ideologues in the party have a lot of sway, by the time the early part of 2016 rolls around everyone’s just so sick of the Obama administration that they’re like, ‘thank God someone’s just trying to win,’” the source added. “This is a Republican that Democrats can vote for.” The comparisons with Mr Clinton do not stop with that unique ability to make each individual feel like they are the only person in the room.

Mr Christie’s supporters see him remaking the Republican party just as Mr Clinton — another small-state governor — hauled Democrats back to the centre-ground in the late Eighties after two decades of ideological irrelevance. “The hope is that Mr Christie reunites the old Reagan Democrats, working class folks who normally vote Democrat who would vote for Chris Christie,” said Patrick Murray, of Monmouth University, the top New Jersey pollster. “Certainly the polling indicates that he’s the strongest contender against Hillary Clinton nationwide.”…

Raising a hand, Mr Christie hushes the packed diner and introduces [Susana] Martinez, who is another former federal prosecutor-turned state governor. “We speak the same language, we don’t put up with any garbage from anybody,” says Mr Christie in his unmistakable tough-guy New Jersey tones. “We know what’s right is right, and what’s wrong is wrong and together we’re gonna make our states a better place, and by example, hopefully to make our country a better place.”

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Demographically, New Jersey is basically similar to Massachusetts, but with slightly higher incomes and somewhat more racial diversity. Like New Jersey, Massachusetts has townies. But when Massachusetts politicians run for national office, reporters don’t pull out Good Will Hunting and fret that the local pols are “too Massachusetts” to sell nationally.

The truth is that Christie’s style is less specific to New Jersey than most people (including Christie) would have you think. His approach isn’t typical for New Jersey politicians; nobody would describe Christie Todd Whitman or Jon Corzine or Cory Booker as a “Jersey loudmouth.” And brash, confrontational, off-script, sometimes angry politicians can thrive outside New Jersey: just look at Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel or London Mayor Boris Johnson.

Christie’s confrontational personality can appeal to all sorts of electorates so long as he trains his anger in the right places…

This weekend, when I watched Christie give two stump speeches, the angriest part of his remarks each time came when talking about the complete breakdown of the political process in Washington, again matching the sentiment of the electorate. So long as Christie keeps training his anger in the right place, Christie will be O.K.

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“If he pulls even with Buono [among Latinos] this really bodes well for his national election potential,” said Brigid Harrison, a professor of political science at Montclair State University. “The Republican Party is looking at this increasingly important demographic group and if you have a moderate candidate with a broad appeal with this constituency it makes sense to give that person a second look as a nominee.”…

The Christie camp appears to be doubling-down on the notion that the GOP will nominate someone seen as the most electable candidate in 2016, rather than one that can win over the base. But Christie’s strong showing in New Jersey among Hispanics may not be enough to convince Republican bigwigs that he can do the same thing nationwide. For one thing, the Hispanic population in New Jersey, while large and diverse, is not representative of the population in the rest of the country. Only Florida boosts more Cuban-American voters, a constituency that has traditionally voted Republican (One of New Jersey’s U.S. Senators, Robert Menendez, is Cuban-American.) In 2009, Christie eked out a slight win against incumbent governor Jon Corzine and still garnered 32 percent of the Hispanic vote. For him to show broad appeal to Latinos nationwide he may have to do better than the 40 percent he is currently polling among Latinos against weak Democratic opposition…

“There is a demographic situation in this country that will make it very challenging for Republicans to win national elections unless they are able to connect with Hispanic voters, and what we are seeing is that is possible for a Republican leader to do that.”

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Socially conservative positions on hot-button issues don’t seem to be a deal-breaker even for the much more liberal voters of New Jersey. Christie has vetoed legislation to grant state recognition to same-sex marriage — a judge later ordered it, though Christie briefly appealed — and vetoed bills to fund Planned Parenthood five times.

He does not, however, seem obsessed by social issues: Democrats haven’t gotten much mileage out of ads saying that his priorities are different from those of voters, as they have against Cuccinelli. Christie has also avoided taking unpopular socially conservative stands on issues that aren’t live debates, and taken the occasional opportunity to soften his profile.

If the polls hold up, Cuccinelli’s defeat may demoralize social conservatives — especially if the news media spin the defeat as a sign that their concerns are a millstone around the neck of Republican politicians. Christie’s likely re-election shows that such an interpretation is wrong. Being a social conservative is not by itself a political death sentence even in deep-blue territory.

If Christie wants to run for president, he may find that pointing this out is a low-cost way of appealing to a national constituency that matters a lot in his party.

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“There’s a lot of Gov. Christie that I really like, but there are parts where he’s given me reason for pause,” said Bob Vander Plaats, a possible 2014 Senate candidate who heads Iowa’s socially conservative Family Leader. Referencing the same-sex marriage issue, he asked: “The fact is, why don’t you challenge the court?”

“The secret sauce is that he’s like everybody’s next-door neighbor,” Katon Dawson, a fixture of South Carolina Republican politics, said of Christie. But he warned that the governor’s pugnacious New Jersey style could wear thin on voters outside of the Northeast. “Will they like him in South Carolina? The jury’s out on that.”

Myriad factors could shape the manner in which Christie might mount a bid for the GOP nomination. Christie might find ample space to run as an electable centrist if a variety of hard-charging conservatives or Tea Party types enter the race. And he could just as easily skip or participate lightly in Iowa and South Carolina – both early nominating contests dominated by conservatives.

Such a strategy could enable Christie to run a campaign more consistent with the persona he’s cultivated during his first term as governor.

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In general elections, votes are driven mainly by party, and secondarily by voters’ retrospective evaluation of the incumbent party. Everything else: candidate, campaign, specific issues outside of the party context … it’s sloppy to say that they “don’t matter,” but the truth is that they matter only on the margins…

On the other hand, in the battle for nomination, candidates (including their personalities) are very important. Both party actors (everyone from politicians to activists) and the larger primary electorate are going to be looking for ways to differentiate among candidates, and it’s certainly plausible that personality will play a major role in distinguishing between seemingly identical contenders.

It’s likely that any consensus among party actors will be passed along to voters, and in most cases accepted by them. Very simply, if Republican activists, donors, campaign and governing professionals, politicians, and formal party officials and staff decide that they like Chris Christie, then the odds are good that Fox News and other party-aligned press outlets are going to pass along to voters an “authenticity” version of the candidate; if there’s a consensus against him, then the party-aligned press will interpret his behavior harshly. It’s possible that rank-and-file voters will come to their own conclusions and reject the view of party actors, but it’s not very likely.

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Until the polls close, even though Democrats hold that legislative race lead, Christie is telling crowds that they really should consider voting for more Republicans, if only to send a message. “If you reward bad behavior, just like what happens with kids, you’ll get more bad behavior,” he says in Somers Point. “If you reward good behavior, you’ll get more good behavior. You know, Tuesday night, America’s watching. America’s watching and they want a new signal of hope for the country’s future, after all the dysfunction in Washington, D.C. They’re gonna look to New Jersey for that hope, and we’re gonna provide it to them on Tuesday.”

I look around the room and see more than one grown man daubing away tears at what Christie’s just said about their state. Voter Jim Logan pulls me aside.

“Only Ronald Reagan could have given a speech like that,” he says. “That last sentence? Yeah, he’s running.”

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Obama: “Under my plan … rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 10:42 PM

…no!…not the doughnut again!

KOOLAID2 on November 4, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Christie….nah.

KCB on November 4, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Eeew. Another Christie thread.

jazzuscounty on November 4, 2013 at 10:45 PM

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canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Obama Dismisses Reports Millions Receiving Cancellation Letters: “People Are Acting Like This Is Some New Phenomenon”…

Of course it’s a new phenomenon, when was the last time millions of Americans had their health plans cancelled simultaneously?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: We did this to put to end the days when the individual market had no standards, when every year, thousands of Americans would be dropped from their coverage. People are acting like this is some new phenomenon. Every year there was churn in this individual market. The average increase was double digits on premiums in this same market, with or without the Affordable Care Act. People were getting, often times, a very bad deal. (Organizing for Action campaign event, November 4, 2013)

If he had even a shred of dignity he would admit he was wrong, instead he continues to dig deeper and deeper.

Resist We Much on November 4, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Christie will have a hard time finishing his term without being indicted for something.

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Real quote.

Obama: “Under my plan … rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Speak of the devil.

http://www.redstate.com/2013/09/19/remember-when-obama-promised-to-bankrupt-coal-thats-tomorrow/

But a person who has seen a recent version of the revised rule said it would propose an emissions limit of 1,100 pounds of carbon dioxide per megawatt hour for coal plants and 1,000 pounds per megawatt hour for large gas-fired plants. Last year’s version was only slightly different, setting a 1,000-pound limit for both types of plants.

[…]

The person and others briefed on the rule said such stringent limits would ban new coal plants, which generally release about twice as much carbon dioxide as the proposed limits. Even the newest, most advanced coal-fired power plants in the world would fall far short of that revised standard, they said.

The only way coal plants could comply is to capture carbon-dioxide emissions and stick them underground—a costly process that hasn’t been demonstrated at commercial scale before.

“This shows the administration discounts and does not appreciate the value of coal and how it can serve the country. You’re impairing the backbone of the power grid,” said Hal Quinn, chief executive of the National Mining Association, an industry trade group.

[…]

Utilities and manufacturers also worry the new rules could lead to an electricity supply crunch or rising prices for consumers. “For the first time ever, EPA is becoming a regulator of energy. The rule they’re putting out there is going to force choices as to which energy you use, and that’s a very disturbing concept for manufacturers, for businesses, for anybody that has to comply with these laws,” said Ross Eisenberg, the vice president for energy policy at the National Association of Manufacturers, a trade group.

Murphy9 on November 4, 2013 at 10:46 PM

California Required Insurance Companies Cancel Individual Plans If They Wanted To Participate In State’s Obamacare Exchange…

Via Sacramento Business Journal:

Specific language in the contracts major health insurers signed with Covered California to participate in the exchange required them to cancel the individual coverage which is at the center of a growing national debate.

Anthem Blue Cross, Kaiser Permanente,Health Net and Blue Shield of Californiahave confirmed to the San Francisco Business Times that their Covered California contracts, signed in August or September, required the cancellations. Other plans on the exchange are subject to the same contract language.

“All QHPs (of which we are one) had to sign that contract,” said Darrel Ng, a spokesman for Anthem Blue Cross, referring to insurers known as qualified health plans.

“In order to participate in Covered California as a qualified health plan, the contract required us to cancel non-ACA-compliant plans on December 31,” saidSteve Shivinsky, a Blue Shield spokesman. “Blue Shield supports this policy because it assures a large and balanced risk pool of individual and family plan subscribers.”

Health Net’s Brad Kieffer said his company signed the contract Sept. 19, and Covered California counter-signed on Sept. 27 — just days before Covered California was set to begin accepting applications on Oct. 1.

Keep reading…

Resist We Much on November 4, 2013 at 10:47 PM

“They’re gonna look to New Jersey for that hope, and we’re gonna provide it to them on Tuesday.”

No one, with the possible exception of Karl Rove, is looking to New Jersey for hope. Most Americans know that New Jersey is where hope goes to die.

Pablo on November 4, 2013 at 10:47 PM

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canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 10:47 PM

So not only are you going to be paying more for your health insurance, Obama is going to take more discretionary spending out of your budget to placate Gaia.

Thanks democrats!

Murphy9 on November 4, 2013 at 10:48 PM

The reincarnation of William Howard Taft is going to save the GOPe? Bizzaro world.

nobar on November 4, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Yawn…

idesign on November 4, 2013 at 10:48 PM

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canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Another witness told News 12 she saw the gunman dressed all in black and wearing a black motorcycle helmet. He was carrying a long shotgun on the side of his leg and he was “shooting at random stuff,” the witness said.

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 10:52 PM

KristieKremeAir strikes again!

Let.The.GOPe.Burn.

Myron Falwell on November 4, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Shooting at New Jersey mall, Nov. 4, 2013
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canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 10:52 PM

I’m voting for canopfor.

I will Not vote for any Rinos like Christie. I’ll vote for Hillary instead.

Omg I just hurled.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Disgruntled ObamaCare programmer?

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Another witness told News 12 she saw the gunman dressed all in black and wearing a black motorcycle helmet. He was carrying a long shotgun on the side of his leg and he was “shooting at random stuff,” the witness said.

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 10:52 PM

faraway:)
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canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM

The reincarnation of William Howard Taft is going to save the GOPe? Bizzaro world.

nobar on November 4, 2013 at 10:48 PM

At least Taft was a conservative. And a Supreme Court Justice, at that.

You’d be lucky to see Christie preside over a food court.

Myron Falwell on November 4, 2013 at 10:54 PM

I’m voting for canopfor.

I will Not vote for any Rinos like Christie. I’ll vote for Hillary instead.

Omg I just hurled.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM

SparkPlug:Lol——————-:0

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 10:54 PM

“Blue Shield supports this policy because it assures a large and balanced risk pool of individual and family plan subscribers.”

Forcing people in is the only way it will work.

Barred on November 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Sounds like some have a fevah for Christie and the only prescription is more cow..b..e..ll…err…Chritie, I guess.

msupertas on November 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM

CBS headline tomorrow: “Suspected Tea Party terrorist shoots hundreds of minorities with AR15 machine gun”

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM

https://twitter.com/kathrynlopez/status/397572060987138048/photo/1

inside the mall

r keller on November 4, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Yawn…

idesign on November 4, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Sorry this isn’t a Palin thread.

CWchangedhisNicagain on November 4, 2013 at 10:56 PM

How Many Health Plans Are Classified As “Substandard” Under Obamacare? 98 Percent…

Even people with so-called “Cadillac” plans are getting cancellation notices because their coverage doesn’t meet Obamacare’s standards.

Via American Commitment:

. . . Millions of Americans are being told their plans are “lousy” or “crummy” because they are indeed, in a hyper-literal sense of the word, “substandard.”

Meaning they fail to meet the new standard for so-called Essential Health Benefits required of all plans in the individual and small-group markets when they lose grandfather status. This is the “standard,” in brief [seen above]:

This “standard” excluded nearly every plan in the individual market.

According to HealthPocket: “The data shows that there will be a near complete transformation of the individual and family health insurance market starting in 2014. Less than 2% of the existing health plans in the individual market today provide all the Essential Health Benefits required under the Affordable Care Act (ACA).”

Even the best of the best plans are being canceled in the individual market. Bob Laszewski, a top industry analyst, described his cancelation:

“I have been in this business for 40 years. I know junk health insurance when I see it and I know ‘Cadillac’ health insurance when I see it. Right now I have ‘Cadillac’ health insurance… The new plan would have a deductible $500 higher than the one I now have and a lot more if I go “out-of-network” inside the rest of the Blue Cross national network… And, wait all you people telling me rate shock does not exist, the new far more restricted plan costs 66% more than our current monthly premium.”

Resist We Much on November 4, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Resist We Much on November 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Food stamps come in many flavors. You can stick them to your tongue and get 9 essential vitamins.

Some food stamps have a sesame seed crust. Some food stamps are crunchy, others are smooth.

You can mail jelly to your friends using food stamps.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 10:57 PM

girl, get down

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Food stamps will stay fresh longer if you put them in the freezer.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Hello :)

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Hello :)

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Hi 8D

Murphy9 on November 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Paging Louisiana representative William J. Jefferson

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM

GOPe-media CAN’T get enough of Christie!!!!!!!elebenty!!!!!!

Regardless that a coronary thrombosis is the only thing he is guaranteed to have in his future.

The Kneepad Media pumps Christie morning, noon and night – builds the narrative the GOPe-media is geeting down on their knees for, “He is The Republican One!”

Whereas anyone with an objective outlook knows Christie NEVER wins enough Republican primaries because he is a MODERATE Democrat.

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM

For fvck sake,, christie again?

Dude,, there’s a lot of Country other than the east coast. not everything borders NY.

Good God,, give me a break.

There’s 55 other states.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Shooting at New Jersey mall, Nov. 4, 2013
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canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Hello helloooo_O

There is an echo in here ear ear ear.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 11:01 PM

** No Christie for POTUSA!!

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:01 PM

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Ain’t that right…

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Christie has certainly been at the forefront of the conservative movement. Right?

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Hello helloooo_O

There is an echo in here ear ear ear.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Comfortably Numb.

msupertas on November 4, 2013 at 11:03 PM

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM

We are so flucking screwed!

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 11:03 PM

It’s best to use food stamps to mail a fruitcake to Twerp for the holidays.

She loves Justin beiber and fruit cake.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 11:03 PM

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 11:01 PM

woo hooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 11:04 PM

At least Taft was a conservative. And a Supreme Court Justice, at that.

You’d be lucky to see Christie preside over a food court.

Myron Falwell on November 4, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Taft supported the 16th amendment and was Teddys chosen successor. Nothing more need be said.

nobar on November 4, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Exit question:

Which Walking Dead cast member matches which politician?

Christie = Tyreese

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 11:04 PM

She loves Justin beiber and fruit cake.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Same thing.

msupertas on November 4, 2013 at 11:05 PM

I’d like christie to visit AZ in july. When it’s 109/°f. Photogenic.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Ted Cruz = Daryl

Obama = governor

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM

President? Forget it…

Secretary of Labor in the Cruz Administration? Absolutely!

PointnClick on November 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM

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ACTIVE SHOOTER AT GARDEN STATE PLAZA MALL: Streaming Paramus PD (non-tactical) until further notice.

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canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM

As anyone ever circumnavigated their way around Christie. It would be a long voyage but I think it might be possible some day.

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:05 PM

nah, lets have a rally in Death Valley for the tubby one ;) o_0

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM

No reports of any injuries at the mall shooting.

Murphy9 on November 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Christie has certainly been at the forefront of the conservative movement. Right?

faraway on November 4, 2013 at 11:02 PM

If conservativeness happened to be determined by caloric intake, then yes.

Myron Falwell on November 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Thanks for updates canopfor!

Can’t deal with it right now ):

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Otay Peeps,..everyone have a great night–:)

I hope this Active Shooter thingy,
is resolved with no casualties!!

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Chris Christie: “Climate change is real. It’s time to defer to the experts.”

This, he said well after the highly publicized Climategate scandal had shown these “experts” to be politically (leftist) motivated and manipulating the data to dupe the public.

While others examine Christie’s positions favoring gun control, Islamists, gay marriage, and other issues, I like to look at his vocal support of the leftist dogma on global warming er climate change.

Why is Christie’s position on this really important for Repubs? Well, a Pew poll just out shows that only 23% of Republicans believe in man made global warming. This is critical because climate change represents the one area where the leftists successfully duped many conservatives in the last decade, and, it represents the leftists attempt to refashion society (through de-industrialization) into their Utopian Hippie ideal.

Btw, the climate change theory is bunk. There’s been no warming for 15 years. And with CO2, there’s actually no demonstrated causal correlation with temperatures: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK_WyvfcJyg&GGWSwindle_CO2Lag. And look at the huge disparity between the out of control hockey stick style projections of the bogus climate models and the actual reality of situation: flatline temperatures://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/06/still-epic-fail-73-climate-models-vs-measurements-running-5-year-means/

Anyway, this new Pew poll shows that only 23% of Republicans believe the leftist bull, but Christie continues to push global warming as he seems to think that he’s smarter the rest of us Republicans.

anotherJoe on November 4, 2013 at 11:08 PM

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Good night and God Bless!!

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 11:09 PM

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Thanks for updates canopfor!

Can’t deal with it right now ):

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Scrumpy: I hear ya,…I’m off,goin to watch a movie with da wife,
night Scrumpy—:0

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:09 PM

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM

We are so flucking screwed!

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 11:03 PM


Good evening, Scrumpy!

No, if Christie gets any momentum going … the KneePad Media will suddenly wake up and ….

“ZOMG! This man is shady as HE|| – who EVER thought he was anything other than SLIME?!?

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:10 PM

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Night! Thanks for the streaming video and twitter links!

Murphy9 on November 4, 2013 at 11:11 PM

One for da road:

Tweets

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FLASH! ‘ACTIVE SHOOTER’. AUTHORITIES BELIEVE SHOOTER HAS LEFT THE MALL.

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:11 PM

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Gonna watch a movie also… alone lol :)

God Bless you all, and good night!!

Scrumpy on November 4, 2013 at 11:11 PM

GOPe-media CAN’T get enough of Christie!!!!!!!elebenty!!!!!!

Regardless that a coronary thrombosis is the only thing he is guaranteed to have in his future.

The Kneepad Media pumps Christie morning, noon and night – builds the narrative the GOPe-media is geeting down on their knees for, “He is The Republican One!”

Whereas anyone with an objective outlook knows Christie NEVER wins enough Republican primaries because he is a MODERATE Democrat.

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM

If… IF… Kristie Kreme gets the nomination, he will lose to Hillary in such a resounding landslide. And he might get the nomination as the GOPe keeps demonstrating that they don’t want to have any sense of party unity among their actual voting base.

The only way Kristie gets the nomination is if the GOPe finally gets torn apart in half.

Myron Falwell on November 4, 2013 at 11:11 PM

forcing people in is the only way it will work. Barred on November 4, 2013 at 10

The carrot didn’t work. Ezpect the stick.

Ready for a fight?

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:12 PM

At least Taft was a conservative. And a Supreme Court Justice, at that.

You’d be lucky to see Christie preside over a food court.

Myron Falwell on November 4, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Taft supported the 16th amendment and was Teddys chosen successor. Nothing more need be said.

nobar on November 4, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Still, I’d take Taft over Christie in a heartbeat.

Myron Falwell on November 4, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Otay Peeps,..everyone have a great night–:)

I hope this Active Shooter thingy,
is resolved with no casualties!!

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 11:08 PM

.
Goodnight, canopfor.

Apparently this kook was shooting out the security cameras with a shotgun while ignoring people around him.

CNN just had a live shot from a helo – there were 20 – 30 officers standing around the food court.

Krispy Kreme hardest hit!

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:16 PM

I’m so tired of the Christie posts. He and his supporters are delusional. Especially the guy who compared him to Reagan.

INC on November 4, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Five years ago, today, the once free USA elected a pathological Liar as Chief.

Then, one year ago, she repeated her stupidity.

Such a land deserves obama in full.

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 11:17 PM

gonna watch a movie also… alone lol :)

If you would have bought good beer and popcorn,, I would hace drove over.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Turn him sideways, and he’s a D….

PointnClick on November 4, 2013 at 11:18 PM

A Pig is a Pig…

equanimous on November 4, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Whittaker Chambers Is to Blame for the Tea Party?

Resist We Much on November 4, 2013 at 11:16 PM

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011/03/still-witnessing-the-enduring-relevance-of-whittaker-chambers

Abstract: Whittaker Chambers is best known today as the veteran Soviet spy who became, in William F. Buckley Jr.’s words, “the most important American defector from Communism” when he testified against members of his underground Communist cell in the 1930s. Yet Chambers did more than reject Communism: He revealed a key problem with modern liberalism. In his now-classic autobiography Witness, he argued that Communism ought to be rejected in the name of something other than 20th-century modern liberalism by showing how the two grew out of a common ideology that places unbounded confidence in state power. As he remarked, New Deal acolytes had no principled reason for opposing unlimited state intrusion into the social, economic, and political realms. Herein lies the source of Chambers’ ongoing relevance: While Communism stands discredited, many still accept its fundamental conceit that man makes his own reality and that the government is the solution to all our ills.

Murphy9 on November 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Still, I’d take Taft over Christie in a heartbeat.

Myron Falwell on November 4, 2013 at 11:13 PM

No question there.

nobar on November 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM

PzFeed Top News @PzFeed 2m

PRESS CONFERENCE:
-CONFIRMED 1 SHOT FIRED
-NO LONGER ACTIVE SHOOTER
-SUSPECT AT LARGE
-POSSIBLY LEFT THE MALL
-MALL ON LOCKDOWN
-NO INJURIES

Murphy9 on November 4, 2013 at 11:21 PM

so tired of the Christie posts. He and his supporters are delusional. Especially the guy who compared him to Reagan. INC on November 4, 2013 at 11:17 P

Yep.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:21 PM

I’d like christie to visit AZ in july. When it’s 109/°f. Photogenic.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Wonderful thought – if he is ever in your state, please be in the background saying,

“But it’s a DRY heat!!!”

which is EXACTLY what people from Jersey (who have never been there) say about AZ’s heat.

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:22 PM

If Christie wasn’t so fat he’d be compared to Rahm constantly. There’s really no substantive difference between them in policy, or really in rhetoric. They’re both tough on unions and guns, they both have an abrasive style… And they both worked for Obama.

happytobehere on November 4, 2013 at 11:23 PM

It’s easy for Democrats to get elected in NJ. Being Obama’s caddy makes it easier. What is the big deal?

pat on November 4, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Real quote of the day

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 11:24 PM

No question there.

nobar on November 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM


So …

… what kind of paperwork are we looking at to exhume Taft?

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:24 PM

So …

… what kind of paperwork are we looking at to exhume Taft?

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Welp, all we have to do is buy the zombification machine from the DNC, re-educate our freshly revived corpse, and find a state that will take him.

nobar on November 4, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Bush II biked, Cheney hunts Montana. Reagan chopped wood.

Christie eats pizza.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Obama’s America

Suds for Drugs
Tide detergent: Works on tough stains. Can now also be traded for crack. A case study in American ingenuity, legal and otherwise.

T
he call that came in from a local Safeway one day in March 2011 was unlike any the Organized Retail Crime Unit of the Prince George’s County Police Department had fielded before. The grocery store, located in suburban Bowie, Maryland, had been robbed repeatedly. But in every incident the only products taken were bottles—many, many bottles—of the liquid laundry detergent Tide. “They were losing $10,000 to $15,000 a month, with people just taking it off the shelves,” recalls Sergeant Aubrey Thompson, who heads the team. When Thompson and his officers arrived to investigate, they stumbled onto another apparent Tide theft in progress and busted two men who’d piled 100 or so of the bright-orange jugs into their Honda.

Murphy9 on November 4, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Liar in Chief

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Btw, the climate change theory is bunk. There’s been no warming for 15 years.

anotherJoe

And might not be for another 20.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2485772/Global-warming-pause-20-years-Arctic-sea-ice-started-recover.html

“If he pulls even with Buono [among Latinos] this really bodes well for his national election potential,” said Brigid Harrison, a professor of political science at Montclair State University.

No it doesn’t. If Romney had pulled even with Obama among Hispanics, he still would have lost. And considering the kind of candidate he would have had to be to attract Hispanics at that rate, he probably would have lost even worse than he did.

Meanwhile, I wonder what the spin will be when Krispy Kreme doesn’t pull even with Buono, lol? I’m sure that will be a good thing too, lol.

xblade on November 4, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Socialist creep

HBO’s BILL MAHER: Okay, well why can’t we just say — I’ve heard people say that [Obamacare is] like his Katrina. I think it’s more like George W. — the father, George Bush, the father’s ‘read my lips, no new taxes’ campaign pledge that didn’t quite hold up to the realities of governing, and that’s a moral complexity I’m okay with because I’m not 12.

NEIL deGRASSE TYSON: Consider this: what is politics other than wheeling and dealing behind closed door instead of in front of you –

MAHER: Exactly.

TYSON: — to get something done, presumably for some greater good. (HBO’s Real Time, November 1, 2013)

May you all suffocate.

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 11:35 PM

I don’t like Statist.

If you really think about it, they are in you face at every turn.

Every facet of your life.

Name something.free…of gubmint control..

There isn’t much.

Name something.anything.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:41 PM

If Christie’s strategy is warmed-over Hunstman-ism then he will go down like the Hindenberg in 2016. If he actually decides to take on the Left and speak to conservative principles with conviction, and actually, genuinely, try to unify the Republican Party — then he’s got a chance.

I still think that a unified conservative base — Tea Party and Christian Conservatives unified behind a single dynamic candidate — would defeat Christie and his Wall Street-wing backers in a straight-up contest.

Robert_Paulson on November 4, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Anderson Cooper is actively pimping eyewitness accounts (all 2 of them) over the statements from the authorities.

{sigh}

… and now they are replaying the latest account – they just finished playing.

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Name something.free…of gubmint control..

Name something.anything.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:41 PM


Easy

All criminal enterprises – excluding the ones RUN by the government

PolAgnostic on November 4, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Kathryn Lopez is tweeting from inside the mall at Paramus.

https://twitter.com/kathrynlopez

INC on November 4, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Name something.free…of gubmint control..

Name something.anything.

wolly4321 on November 4, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Jon S. Corzine

Corzine, Other Former MF Global Executives Seek Suit Dismissal

Jon S. Corzine wants a judge to dismiss the amended lawsuit against him and other former MF Global Holdings Ltd. executives, saying it is filled with “disparaging characterizations” of old facts.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20131104-708603.html

Corzine should have been swinging from a lightpole a long time ago.

Murphy9 on November 4, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Whenever you need to be bored, just go to Hotair, and you will usually find a Chris Christie post. Yes, he’s the one from the debt ridden state of New Jersey. (A perfect fit for our next President, that is if continued debt and spending are not issues)!

mobydutch on November 4, 2013 at 11:49 PM

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