Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on November 4, 2013 by Allahpundit

The New Jersey governor’s race, where Republican incumbent Gov. Christopher Christie maintained leads of about 2-1 for months, ends with the governor leading State Sen. Barbara Buono, his Democratic challenger, 61 – 33 percent among likely voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll completed last night and released today…

Christie leads 66 – 29 percent among men and 57 – 36 percent among women, 94 – 5 percent among Republicans and 64 – 29 percent among independent voters. He even gets 30 percent of Democrats, to Buono’s 64 percent.

“That weekend bus ride around the Garden State must have felt like a victory tour for Gov. Christopher Christie” said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute…

“With his appeal to independent voters, and even Democrats, Christie-for-President 2016 begins a few minutes after 8 o’clock tomorrow night.”

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“People expect government to work for them … and you can compromise without compromising your principals,” he told POLITICO. “It’s not a dirty word. That’s what we’ve proven over four years in New Jersey… I know what’s gone on here in New Jersey and what’s happening here is not the result of the last six months. It’s the result of the last four years.”…

One voter, who drove an antique car with her father and parked it outside the pastry shop, carried around a sign for the assembled media: “Here I am with the future president of the United States.”

“If Chris Christie has a big win on Tuesday, he’s going to march off to Iowa and tell conservative Republican caucus-goers: “Here’s how I did it. I demonized the unions; put the teachers in their place; stuck to my pro-life, anti-gay marriage, no-new-gun-laws agenda; and I never backed away from the principles of supply-side economics. When Obama came to town – well, that was just me doing my job,’” said Buono strategist John Del Cecato. “‘But I’m a rock-ribbed conservative, and I never moderated myself for a minute. And you know what? I won.’”

He added, “That should give Democrats heartburn for a few reasons. First, he’s telling other Republican governors that right-wing policies can carry the day in a blue state if you dress them up with colorful language and a devil-may-care attitude. Second, it gives him a good shot at the GOP presidential nomination. Democrats who comfort themselves by thinking Christie somehow can’t make it through a primary are fooling themselves.”

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“He’s the guy whose big message to the party is ‘I can win’,” a senior establishment Republican in Washington told The Daily Telegraph, contrasting Mr Christie’s can-do persona to the ultra-ideological Tea Party faction that came to the fore last month by forcing a US government shutdown. “As much as the ideologues in the party have a lot of sway, by the time the early part of 2016 rolls around everyone’s just so sick of the Obama administration that they’re like, ‘thank God someone’s just trying to win,’” the source added. “This is a Republican that Democrats can vote for.” The comparisons with Mr Clinton do not stop with that unique ability to make each individual feel like they are the only person in the room.

Mr Christie’s supporters see him remaking the Republican party just as Mr Clinton — another small-state governor — hauled Democrats back to the centre-ground in the late Eighties after two decades of ideological irrelevance. “The hope is that Mr Christie reunites the old Reagan Democrats, working class folks who normally vote Democrat who would vote for Chris Christie,” said Patrick Murray, of Monmouth University, the top New Jersey pollster. “Certainly the polling indicates that he’s the strongest contender against Hillary Clinton nationwide.”…

Raising a hand, Mr Christie hushes the packed diner and introduces [Susana] Martinez, who is another former federal prosecutor-turned state governor. “We speak the same language, we don’t put up with any garbage from anybody,” says Mr Christie in his unmistakable tough-guy New Jersey tones. “We know what’s right is right, and what’s wrong is wrong and together we’re gonna make our states a better place, and by example, hopefully to make our country a better place.”

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Demographically, New Jersey is basically similar to Massachusetts, but with slightly higher incomes and somewhat more racial diversity. Like New Jersey, Massachusetts has townies. But when Massachusetts politicians run for national office, reporters don’t pull out Good Will Hunting and fret that the local pols are “too Massachusetts” to sell nationally.

The truth is that Christie’s style is less specific to New Jersey than most people (including Christie) would have you think. His approach isn’t typical for New Jersey politicians; nobody would describe Christie Todd Whitman or Jon Corzine or Cory Booker as a “Jersey loudmouth.” And brash, confrontational, off-script, sometimes angry politicians can thrive outside New Jersey: just look at Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel or London Mayor Boris Johnson.

Christie’s confrontational personality can appeal to all sorts of electorates so long as he trains his anger in the right places…

This weekend, when I watched Christie give two stump speeches, the angriest part of his remarks each time came when talking about the complete breakdown of the political process in Washington, again matching the sentiment of the electorate. So long as Christie keeps training his anger in the right place, Christie will be O.K.

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“If he pulls even with Buono [among Latinos] this really bodes well for his national election potential,” said Brigid Harrison, a professor of political science at Montclair State University. “The Republican Party is looking at this increasingly important demographic group and if you have a moderate candidate with a broad appeal with this constituency it makes sense to give that person a second look as a nominee.”…

The Christie camp appears to be doubling-down on the notion that the GOP will nominate someone seen as the most electable candidate in 2016, rather than one that can win over the base. But Christie’s strong showing in New Jersey among Hispanics may not be enough to convince Republican bigwigs that he can do the same thing nationwide. For one thing, the Hispanic population in New Jersey, while large and diverse, is not representative of the population in the rest of the country. Only Florida boosts more Cuban-American voters, a constituency that has traditionally voted Republican (One of New Jersey’s U.S. Senators, Robert Menendez, is Cuban-American.) In 2009, Christie eked out a slight win against incumbent governor Jon Corzine and still garnered 32 percent of the Hispanic vote. For him to show broad appeal to Latinos nationwide he may have to do better than the 40 percent he is currently polling among Latinos against weak Democratic opposition…

“There is a demographic situation in this country that will make it very challenging for Republicans to win national elections unless they are able to connect with Hispanic voters, and what we are seeing is that is possible for a Republican leader to do that.”

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Socially conservative positions on hot-button issues don’t seem to be a deal-breaker even for the much more liberal voters of New Jersey. Christie has vetoed legislation to grant state recognition to same-sex marriage — a judge later ordered it, though Christie briefly appealed — and vetoed bills to fund Planned Parenthood five times.

He does not, however, seem obsessed by social issues: Democrats haven’t gotten much mileage out of ads saying that his priorities are different from those of voters, as they have against Cuccinelli. Christie has also avoided taking unpopular socially conservative stands on issues that aren’t live debates, and taken the occasional opportunity to soften his profile.

If the polls hold up, Cuccinelli’s defeat may demoralize social conservatives — especially if the news media spin the defeat as a sign that their concerns are a millstone around the neck of Republican politicians. Christie’s likely re-election shows that such an interpretation is wrong. Being a social conservative is not by itself a political death sentence even in deep-blue territory.

If Christie wants to run for president, he may find that pointing this out is a low-cost way of appealing to a national constituency that matters a lot in his party.

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“There’s a lot of Gov. Christie that I really like, but there are parts where he’s given me reason for pause,” said Bob Vander Plaats, a possible 2014 Senate candidate who heads Iowa’s socially conservative Family Leader. Referencing the same-sex marriage issue, he asked: “The fact is, why don’t you challenge the court?”

“The secret sauce is that he’s like everybody’s next-door neighbor,” Katon Dawson, a fixture of South Carolina Republican politics, said of Christie. But he warned that the governor’s pugnacious New Jersey style could wear thin on voters outside of the Northeast. “Will they like him in South Carolina? The jury’s out on that.”

Myriad factors could shape the manner in which Christie might mount a bid for the GOP nomination. Christie might find ample space to run as an electable centrist if a variety of hard-charging conservatives or Tea Party types enter the race. And he could just as easily skip or participate lightly in Iowa and South Carolina – both early nominating contests dominated by conservatives.

Such a strategy could enable Christie to run a campaign more consistent with the persona he’s cultivated during his first term as governor.

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In general elections, votes are driven mainly by party, and secondarily by voters’ retrospective evaluation of the incumbent party. Everything else: candidate, campaign, specific issues outside of the party context … it’s sloppy to say that they “don’t matter,” but the truth is that they matter only on the margins…

On the other hand, in the battle for nomination, candidates (including their personalities) are very important. Both party actors (everyone from politicians to activists) and the larger primary electorate are going to be looking for ways to differentiate among candidates, and it’s certainly plausible that personality will play a major role in distinguishing between seemingly identical contenders.

It’s likely that any consensus among party actors will be passed along to voters, and in most cases accepted by them. Very simply, if Republican activists, donors, campaign and governing professionals, politicians, and formal party officials and staff decide that they like Chris Christie, then the odds are good that Fox News and other party-aligned press outlets are going to pass along to voters an “authenticity” version of the candidate; if there’s a consensus against him, then the party-aligned press will interpret his behavior harshly. It’s possible that rank-and-file voters will come to their own conclusions and reject the view of party actors, but it’s not very likely.

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Until the polls close, even though Democrats hold that legislative race lead, Christie is telling crowds that they really should consider voting for more Republicans, if only to send a message. “If you reward bad behavior, just like what happens with kids, you’ll get more bad behavior,” he says in Somers Point. “If you reward good behavior, you’ll get more good behavior. You know, Tuesday night, America’s watching. America’s watching and they want a new signal of hope for the country’s future, after all the dysfunction in Washington, D.C. They’re gonna look to New Jersey for that hope, and we’re gonna provide it to them on Tuesday.”

I look around the room and see more than one grown man daubing away tears at what Christie’s just said about their state. Voter Jim Logan pulls me aside.

“Only Ronald Reagan could have given a speech like that,” he says. “That last sentence? Yeah, he’s running.”

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You all better get ready for the battle to ensure that we nominate an actual conservative in 2016.

If Christie gets close to the nomination, bluegill goes nuclear.

Christie will not be our nominee, so help me!

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 1:54 AM

“Shadowboxing The Apocalypse….And Wandering The Land”

williamg on November 5, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Ah, some Dead :)

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 1:54 AM

<– Fading to white.

Axe on November 5, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Also, what in what kind of glass should it be decanted?

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 1:10 AM

One decants into a decanter.

One then pours from the decanter into a glass.

;-)

Solaratov on November 5, 2013 at 1:57 AM

“Shadowboxing The Apocalypse….And Wandering The Land”

williamg on November 5, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Ah, some Dead :)

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 1:54 AM

I’ve been geeking out on the Pigpen years the past few weeks. Saturday night the local Dead show played all Weir songs included the longest version of Playing in the Band I’ve ever heard(6/16/74 Des Moines, Iowa).

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Saturday night the local Dead show played all Weir songs included the longest version of Playing in the Band I’ve ever heard(6/16/74 Des Moines, Iowa).

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 1:58 AM

It’s on youtube! length 29:12

Grateful Dead – Playing in the Band

One decants into a decanter.

One then pours from the decanter into a glass.

;-)

Solaratov on November 5, 2013 at 1:57 AM

decant – Full Definition of DECANT
1
: to draw off (a liquid) without disturbing the sediment or the lower liquid layers
2
: to pour from one vessel into another
3
: to pour out, transfer, or unload as if by pouring

IDK, but if you have sediment in your Zima, then I suggest to hand it to someone you are less fond of.

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 2:03 AM

The Pontiac Brothers – “Be Married Song”

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 2:03 AM

novaculus on November 5, 2013 at 1:38 AM

I always wait too long to get my references in – looking for The BEST quality audio choice……

“Shadowboxing The Apocalypse”….you Gotta Love that Lyrical Riff!!

On the other hand – Bromberg is the ABSOLUTE Bees Knees!

williamg on November 5, 2013 at 2:04 AM

* in THERE somewhere….

williamg on November 5, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Lunachicks – “More Than a Feeling”

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 2:16 AM

What The Hell is Goin’ On?

novaculus on November 5, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Guys, there is a huge amount of material to use against Christie during the primary campaign. He will be stopped. This time. But he will make a return in an campaign after that. Mark my words. But it won’t be as a Republican.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 2:26 AM

Lunachicks – “More Than a Feeling”

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 2:16 AM

:) The interview clip on the sidebar is classic.

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 2:26 AM

Knit, knit, knit.

He is a psychopath. Impeach.

John the Libertarian on November 5, 2013 at 2:27 AM

The Rolling Stones – Jigsaw Puzzle”

Oh, there’s twenty-thousand grandmas
Wave their hankies in the air
All burning up their pensions
And shouting, “It’s not fair!”
There’s a regiment of soldiers
Standing looking on
And the Queen is bravely shouting,
“What the hell is going on?”

With a blood-curdling “tally-ho”
She charged into the ranks
And blessed all those grandmas who
With their dying breaths screamed, “Thanks!”

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 2:29 AM

Don’t believe the lie that says ” a conservative cannot win the presidency.”

We are going to be told that lie over and over and over.

We will win if we are unified. We need to unite behind a candidate, whether it be Cruz or another conservative, and stop the pro-amnesty blimp Christie in his oversized tracks.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 2:29 AM

:) The interview clip on the sidebar is classic.

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 2:26 AM

:)

Lunachicks – “Heart of Glass”

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 2:38 AM

Symphony For The Devil/Sympathy For The Devil

novaculus on November 5, 2013 at 2:39 AM

Pro-amnesty Chris Christie announces he is going to force through in-state tuition for illegal aliens:

http://youtu.be/H4TT6wca97M

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 2:41 AM

Knit, knit, knit.

He is a psychopath. Impeach.

John the Libertarian on November 5, 2013 at 2:27 AM

The Damned – “Neat Neat Neat

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 2:41 AM

Wouldn’t it really be something if Cuccinelli won in Virginia, and if Chris Christie got a much lower percentage than what is being predicted?

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 2:43 AM

We need Rand Paul to get his butt over to Virginia and to encourage those libertarians not to vote for the fake libertarian candidate.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 2:44 AM

We will win if we are unified. We need to unite behind a candidate, whether it be Cruz or another conservative, and stop the pro-amnesty blimp Christie in his oversized tracks.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 2:29 AM

Hey don’t laugh at him just because he’s fat

Lydia Lunch – “Carnival Fat Man”

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 2:46 AM

Lydia Lunch – “Carnival Fat Man”

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 2:46 AM

I don’t care about anyone’s weight or looks. But I feel like we should mock the HindenChristie nonstop and in all ways in order to diminish him.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 2:48 AM

I don’t care about anyone’s weight or looks. But I feel like we should mock the HindenChristie nonstop and in all ways in order to diminish him.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 2:48 AM

That was just a line in the song. :)

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 2:51 AM

It must be getting late…

Daft Punk – Derezzed (GuZheng Cover)

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 2:52 AM

Symphony For The Devil/Sympathy For The Devil

novaculus on November 5, 2013 at 2:39 AM

Procol Harum – “Conquistador” (live with Edmonton Symphony Orchestra)

Cacophony – “Speed Metal Symphony”

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 2:56 AM

I’m going to share something. I grew up in Southern California. You could hardly find a better place to live and grow up. So much opportunity. Wonderful, safe communities. Well-managed cities.

To say the state isn’t at all the same today would be the understatement of the century. So much of it now feels like run-down slums. It is the result of mass, unchecked illegal immigration. It’s really heartbreaking.

We have immigration laws and regulations for a reason.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 2:57 AM

Blackbird Raum – Honey In The Hair

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 2:59 AM

Ray Stevens: Come to the USA:
http://youtu.be/WgOHOHKBEqE

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 3:00 AM

It must be getting late…

Daft Punk – Derezzed (GuZheng Cover)

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 2:52 AM

From one of my favorite albums:

Myofist/Fist – “It’s Late”

Einstürzende Neubauten – “Yu-Gung”

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 3:06 AM

I think I found ALT’s theme music.

Bang Bang! – Pistol Packin’ Mamma

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 3:12 AM

Einstürzende Neubauten – “Yu-Gung”

Anti-Control on November 5, 2013 at 3:06 AM

I saw them play with Pigface. lol

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 3:15 AM

Tuba Skinny – Going Back Home

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 3:22 AM

Pro-amnesty politicians like to talk about the poor, dear “undocumented” living “in the shadows.” It’s BS! A lot of these people are living here quite comfortably. They also have many more children on average.Hey, how about first thinking about what’s best for the country and its actual citizens? When you have a never-ending, mass transfer of a huge portion of another nation’s poor, unskilled population (who see government as an entity which is meant to take care of and provide for people) into this one, you aren’t going to see this country being lifted up. Quite the opposite.

Immigration laws and immigration standards. ENFORCE THEM.

Look at the Korean immigrants in this country. Highest level of achievement in all areas. Lowest crime. They don’t need affirmative action. Why? They came here through following immigration laws. It’s called having standards for whom we let in. We shouldn’t be keeping the door open for tens of millions more who come here and require government assistance and fill up our jails and emergency rooms. We should welcome the best from around the world, not coddle and try to support other countries’ castoffs.

Legal immigration is great. But only when we have and enforce standards and think about what’s best for the country and our own citizens.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 3:34 AM

good morning!

well the lsm has already crowned christie the frontrunner for 2016 so let’s all just go home
/

cmsinaz on November 5, 2013 at 5:35 AM

LOL at all you fools against Christie. He will win the nomination. He can beat Clinton. if the republican party was under control of the fools in this forum, we would have Herman Cain as a nominee. Goes to show how stupid the posters are here.

rubberneck on November 5, 2013 at 5:53 AM

LOL at all you fools against Christie. He will win the nomination. He can beat Clinton. if the republican party was under control of the fools in this forum, we would have Herman Cain as a nominee. Goes to show how stupid the posters are here.
rubberneck on November 5, 2013 at 5:53 AM

You’re going to be disappointed when Christie doesn’t win the nomination, but rest assured it will be best for the country. Hillary would easily beat Dem-lite Christie. You’ll get another chance to vote for Christie, though, when he reemerges in 2020 and comes out officially as a Democrat.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 6:01 AM

awww dr k’s book is doing better than double down…poor john and mark

heh

cmsinaz on November 5, 2013 at 6:04 AM

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 6:01 AM

+1

cmsinaz on November 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM

I will NEVER –ever– vote for this fool for president.

—–EVER

TX-96 on November 5, 2013 at 6:13 AM

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 6:01 AM

i’m shocked to see you dislike christie.

mitt hand picked him to give the keynote speech at his nomination.

birds of a feather.

can’t turn your back on the fat man girlrien.

you own him.

renalin on November 5, 2013 at 6:13 AM

renalin on November 5, 2013 at 6:13 AM

Troll elsewhere. I haven’t the time.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 6:15 AM

the lsm has their new squirrel…forget obamacare, let’s focus on christie win and the va loss for the gop

man i hope cuccinelli wins just to shut their faces…

cmsinaz on November 5, 2013 at 6:16 AM

renalin on November 5, 2013 at 6:13 AM

She’s evolving and seemingly to the right.

Cindy Munford on November 5, 2013 at 6:16 AM

Going to work.

Cindy Munford on November 5, 2013 at 6:17 AM

LOL mika thinks obama did a great job with revising his mantra ‘if you like your healthcare, you can keep it

what an idiot!

cmsinaz on November 5, 2013 at 6:21 AM

Well, here’s the thing: who else besides Romney was there? Romney was solidly against amnesty and ran on Obamacare repeal. Santorum was and remains vocally anti-tea party, Newt was pro-amnesty.

This time we potentially have better conservative choices.

I would never have supported Romney if I didn’t trust that he would oppose amnesty.

Christie has already said he favors a “pathway” to citizenship for illegals and just last month pledged to fight for illegal alien in-state tuition, just as Perry had done.

This has always been one of my top issues and was a big reason why I supported Romney over McCain in 2008.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 6:22 AM

Finally we may have choices like Cruz and Rand and a few others in the mix who are credible, top-rate people, and conservatives don’t have to keep looking to certain other politicians who struggle to articulate positions and who most of the country doesn’t think is even minimally qualified to be president.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 6:26 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.

I think the first and principle objective is to repeal Obamacare before it does lasting, fundamental damage to our health care system, to our individual liberty, to the relationship each of us has with his or her doctor.

-Ted Cruz

My take: “Obama and Obamacare: A Con Man Pulling A Con Job. Lies have Consequences.”

kingsjester on November 5, 2013 at 6:48 AM

I will say that certain things, like the gay marriage issue, have left me very dismayed. I have always had no problem with gays or with what anyone wants to do. It’s irrelevant to me. I would defend anyone from discrimination. But is also believe keeping marriage meaning something is important. The way people are vilified for supporting marriage has outraged me. This had really crystallized for me in the last year.

The real intolerant bigots and bullies are often the gay activists.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 6:53 AM

Great take KJ

cmsinaz on November 5, 2013 at 6:55 AM

cmsinaz on November 5, 2013 at 6:55 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on November 5, 2013 at 6:57 AM

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 6:15 AM

christie and mitt are ideological sould brothers.
deep down you looooooooove you some christie.

i expect to see your pom poms out for the fat man by 2016.

renalin on November 5, 2013 at 7:00 AM

Fat ass needs to stay in the Armpit of America (NJ) stuffing his pie-hole with freshly baked Krispy Kreme donuts.

RandallinHerndon on November 5, 2013 at 7:29 AM

Christie is a conservative who appeals to people
-schmidt

The Christie love is really strong this am on morning joe

cmsinaz on November 5, 2013 at 7:34 AM

You all better get ready for the battle to ensure that we nominate an actual conservative in 2016.

If Christie gets close to the nomination, bluegill goes nuclear.

Christie will not be our nominee, so help me!

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 1:54 AM

…do I use an oak frame…or something more modern?

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2013 at 7:34 AM

KOOLAID2 on November 5, 2013 at 7:34 AM

LOL!

kingsjester on November 5, 2013 at 7:38 AM

“This is a Republican that Democrats can vote for.”

Worked so well for McCain and Romney, didn’t it?

GOPe – still f*cking that chicken, and ignoring – no, working to destroy – what actually worked for them in 2010.

Midas on November 5, 2013 at 7:40 AM

Goodness, what a ridiculous idea. I live in Jersey and, for whatever it may be worth, my own bet is there is no way Christie can be more successful nationally than any other moderate Republican. AP can push the idea of a Christie candidacy all he wants but we will see how far it really can go. I’m guessing Delaware water gap is the outer limit.

MTF on November 5, 2013 at 7:41 AM

Well, here’s the thing: who else besides Romney was there? Romney was solidly against amnesty and ran on Obamacare repeal.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 6:22 AM

No, he didn’t.

He ran on ‘repeal and replace‘, which does *not* mean ‘repeal’. He said, many times, that he wanted to keep parts of it, and change other parts – saying that he ran on ‘repeal’ is like saying Obama didn’t lie when he said you could keep your health plan if you liked it.

You simply cannot recast what the man actually said into something you wish he’d said.

Midas on November 5, 2013 at 7:43 AM

AP can push the idea of a Christie candidacy all he wants but we will see how far it really can go. I’m guessing Delaware water gap is the outer limit.

MTF on November 5, 2013 at 7:41 AM

And he/they/HA most undoubtedly will push Christie. Have been able to see this coming a mile away.

It’s the HA/establishment way.

Midas on November 5, 2013 at 7:45 AM

You’re going to be disappointed when Christie doesn’t win the nomination, but rest assured it will be best for the country. Hillary would easily beat Dem-lite Christie. You’ll get another chance to vote for Christie, though, when he reemerges in 2020 and comes out officially as a Democrat.

bluegill on November 5, 2013 at 6:01 AM

Oh, I dunno – I think Christie will win the nomination – but will not beat Hillary.

The GOP establishment want him, so he’ll be the nominee.

Do not be under the impression that a significant number of Democrats will vote for Christie – like they’re doing in NJ with a no-name Democrat to vote for as an alternative. Given Hillary as a choice? Given the media swooning at the Clinton Second-Coming? Christie will not dent the Democrat vote, she will get it.

Hillary will also get all of the new shiny illegal immigrant votes.

And by then, the GOP establishment will have finished alienating the entirety of it’s conservative base, and will have nothing left but RINO’s.

Christie will lose by a wide margin in 2016, and the GOP will sit around scratching their heads wondering how to blame it on the tea party, while casting about for the next squishy ‘Republican that Democrats can vote for’ candidate for 2020.

Midas on November 5, 2013 at 7:52 AM

… and remember – all of the media fawning over Christie will end the moment he becomes the GOP nominee – just like it did with McCain.

All of the organizations and money that turned out in VA to destroy Cuccinelli, but that were conspicuously absent from the NJ environment – will be arrayed against Christie with a vengeance the moment he becomes the GOP nominee.

He will be the face of evil incarnate from the Dem/media gameplan.

Anyone looking to this NJ race with the notion that Christie could do that nationally is simply delusional. Willfully, ignorantly, “if I believe enough, Tinkerbell will live” delusional.

Midas on November 5, 2013 at 7:55 AM

In a race between Hillary (or any other Democrat) and Christie, I’d root for Christie to lose.

A Christie candidacy isn’t the “lesser of two evils” – it would be the evil, cementing the Republican brand as progressive/socialist lite forevermore.

Our country is screwed already, barring a Reagan Revolution type turnaround. Christie speeds us further down the slope to third-world socialist sh!thole, but allows the media to attach a “conservative” label on it for low-info voters.

No, thanks. I’d take Hillary over that.

Besides, I’m pretty sure Christie is a vile, traitorous human being who cares about nothing but Chris Christie and Chris Christie’s ambitions. He’s every bit the narcissist Obama is.

DRayRaven on November 5, 2013 at 7:59 AM

I was not a Mitt fan, and I’m not a Christie supporter (I like Cruz to be honest), but I don’t think our foremost goal shoul be “destroy the candidates we don’t like”.

Support your candidate, may the best person win, then support that person.

Crazy. I know right?

Irritable Pundit on November 5, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Support your candidate, may the best person win, then support that person.

Irritable Pundit on November 5, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Um, no. I won’t support whoever the establishment profers up. Not this time. If the nominee is Chris Christie, the GOP and I part ways, and I vote Libertarian.

When the GOP nominee is no better than the Dem, and you have to split hairs to find which is the lesser evil, it’s time to find another option.

DRayRaven on November 5, 2013 at 8:25 AM

I don’t think our foremost goal should be “destroy the candidates we don’t like”.

Irritable Pundit on November 5, 2013 at 8:17 AM

That ship has sailed. Our side enjoys destroying their competition in bloody primaries.

The Dems, especially at the local and state level, quietly whisper in their competitor’s ear, nice business (family, whatever) you have, be a shame… And, virtually no money is spent on the primary campaign. (Obama v Clinton was an anomaly. Hillary was supposed to step aside once the Obama train was rolling but she’s a Clinton…)

Our guys, after pummeling their same party competitors are spent for the general. They want to seen as nice guys who don’t judge or attack people and much of their money and credibility is gone. It’s really messed up. We do it bass-ackwards.

That said, going third party if Christie is the nominee. Fool me once, fool me twice… I won’t get fooled again.

Fallon on November 5, 2013 at 8:58 AM

On Romney:

Mark Levin has up his answer to David Gregory of Meet the Pi$$ Sunday on his web site, should be easy to find there or on Meet the Pi$$’s web site.

Question: “Had you won and you were Pres. what would you have done about health care in the U.S.?”

Answer: “Well I am not Pres. (blah blah a bit then) my plan was to require the states to cover pre-existing conditions and to cover all their people, I might have given them some flexibility on how to do it but make sure they got it done.”

Not a dimes worth of differnce.

Notice the “their people”.

We are just Tax Payer ID numbers to the two party evil money cults elites.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 5, 2013 at 9:36 AM

rubberneck on November 5, 2013 at 5:53 AM

Cain would never kiss with his eyes wide open fool.

Bmore on November 5, 2013 at 9:58 AM

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/05/revealed-obama-campaign-bundler-helping-fund-libertarian-in-tight-va-gubernatorial-race/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButtons

It would have been good had this info come out earlier!!

All VA voters, Listen UP!!

bluefox on November 5, 2013 at 10:11 AM

We’re going to have to figure out how to make this illegal somehow, balanced with free speech rights.

Intentionally subverting an election isn’t free speech, it’s fraud for the person running and the person funding them, perpetrated on the people that wind up voting for that person.

It’s also an attempt to effectively disenfranchise great chunks of the populace.

Midas on November 5, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Sigh….

They’re going to nominate the fat man, aren’t they?!

What a bunch of idiots.

Sterling Holobyte on November 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Sigh….

They’re going to nominate the fat man, aren’t they?!

What a bunch of idiots.

Sterling Holobyte on November 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM

It’s his turn!

Murphy9 on November 5, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Um, no. I won’t support whoever the establishment profers up. Not this time. If the nominee is Chris Christie, the GOP and I part ways, and I vote Libertarian.

When the GOP nominee is no better than the Dem, and you have to split hairs to find which is the lesser evil, it’s time to find another option.

DRayRaven on November 5, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Conspiracy nonsense aside, we’ve let McCain & Romney wind up our standard bearers because the establishment out-hustled us for votes. Period. You dont like it, I dont like it, but it is the truth. The answer is not to have a hissy, take our trucks and leave, but to out-hustle the establishment this time.

Get hot, get serious, get your candidate. I am going to knock on doors for Cruz.

That said, I’ll take Christie over Hillary “Never heard of Benghazi” Clinton any day. Christie is well to my left (my years weekly blogging at Brushfire prove that rather well) and that bothers me, but he never let Americans die alone and frightened in the middle east — Hillary did. If some of you cant see the difference, if some of you think you have to “split hairs” to see that difference, well then maybe I’m wasting my time and good luck and G-d bless you on your journey.

Irritable Pundit on November 5, 2013 at 11:58 AM

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