Feinstein: Hey, you could have kept your plan … until we enacted ObamaCare

posted at 8:01 am on November 4, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Sen. Dianne Feinstein appeared on CBS’ Face the Nation yesterday in part to face the music.  Bob Schieffer led off this portion of her appearance by noting that the Obama administration has failed to deliver on many promises of ObamaCare, not the least of which was “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.” Feinstein tries to explain that the promise was true … up until the bill passed.

No, seriously (via Eliana Johnson at The Corner):

SCHIEFFER: The president said in the beginning that one thing was that if you liked the health care program you had, you could keep it. We now know there was debate within the administration before he said that as to whether that was actually a promise that could be kept. Should the president not have made that statement?

FEINSTEIN: Well, as I understand it, you can keep it up to the time — and I hope this is correct, but this is what I’ve been told — up to the time the bill was enacted, and after that, it’s a different story.  That part of it, if true, was never made clear.

So let’s get this straight.  The promise made by Barack Obama from 2007 forward all the way through the 2012 election, made dozens if not hundreds of times in those five years, meant that you could keep the plan you liked only if we never enacted the reform he proposed? I’ve heard some pretty fanciful spin on the “keep your plan” promise, but that really does take the cake.  “Never made clear,” indeed.

Here’s another question for Senator Feinstein. You voted for this bill and helped push it through Congress with zero Republican votes.  Why is it only now that we find out that you had no idea how this bill, drafted in the Senate by senior Democratic leadership, would impact Americans who liked the insurance they already had? Why did it take Senator Feinstein, a senior member of Democratic leadership on Capitol Hill herself, more than three and a half years to figure this out — and not even to a certainty, if one is to believe this spin cycle yesterday on CBS News?


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I guess it’s just too early in the day for sarcasm. I’ll type slower next time.

mchristian on November 4, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Add the / tag to be safe. It’s a jungle in here sometimes.

lynncgb on November 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM

But those LIARS are trying to kill me.

juliesa on November 4, 2013 at 9:50 AM

The Progressive Fascist way.

No…You’re not paranoid

workingclass artist on November 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM

My senior US Senator… I am ashamed of her…

Khun Joe on November 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM

So DiFi is either breathtakingly dishonest or breathtakingly stupid. There is no third option. Neither aquits her very well.

tommyboy on November 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM

“The paper applications…

canopfor on November 4, 2013 at 8:12 AM

Oh. Should I be submitting a paper application? Shouldn’t we all? Just to see what’s in the Bill?

Tsar of Earth on November 4, 2013 at 10:35 AM

She doesn’t look very good, I thought she was exempt from Obamacare/

ORconservative on November 4, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Gawd, what a shifty sheister lawyer answer. Worse than Slick Willy’s “is” is answer. This is very bad now.

jake49 on November 4, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Here’s a bit of free advice to the Dems, not that they will take it.

When your spin has been shown to be a lie, more spinning doesn’t help you.

PackerBronco on November 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

So let’s get this straight. The promise made by Barack Obama from 2007 forward all the way through the 2012 election, made dozens if not hundreds of times in those five years, meant that you could keep the plan you liked only if we never enacted the reform he proposed?

To be fair, I suspect she may just be referring (very incoherently) to the fact that even disregarding the other absurdly strict rules about grandfathering, it’s also required that the plan have existed before the passage of the bill.

Which means, of course, that if we put aside the million other reasons why Obama’s “you can keep your plan” was a blatant lie, we still have the fact that every time he made this pledge after the passage of the law (which I believe he did many times in the 2010 and 2012 campaigns), he was lying to anyone who had purchased a new plan in the interim.

RINO in Name Only on November 4, 2013 at 10:50 AM

So DiFi is either breathtakingly dishonest or breathtakingly stupid. There is no third option. Neither aquits her very well.

tommyboy on November 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM

My answer is C: BOTH A and B.

dentarthurdent on November 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Here’s a bit of free advice to the Dems, not that they will take it.

When your spin has been shown to be a lie, more spinning doesn’t help you.

PackerBronco on November 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

I beg to differ – 0bumble got elected twice by doing that.

dentarthurdent on November 4, 2013 at 10:58 AM

You voted for this bill and helped push it through Congress with zero Republican votes. Why is it only now that we find out that you had no idea how this bill, drafted in the Senate by senior Democratic leadership, would impact Americans who liked the insurance they already had? Why did it take Senator Feinstein, a senior member of Democratic leadership on Capitol Hill herself, more than three and a half years to figure this out — and not even to a certainty, if one is to believe this spin cycle yesterday on CBS News?

DiFi can either answer these questions honestly, and admit that she didn’t really know or understand about these changes because a) she never really read the bill, and b) she knew that her vote in favor of Obamacare would transfer significant powers to set the details of the bill to HHS and IRS regulatory definitions or she can continue to try to spin yet another failure of the progressive agenda when theory meets reality.

Any answer reflects very badly on the Congressional Democrats who basically voted for this because of ideological grounds – and their conviction that the government not only knows best, but should control major markets and elements of the national economy.

Spin or not, they are not going to easily stop the collapse of their credibility – even with major elements of the mainstream media working to define the narrative away from their failures and lies.

Athos on November 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

But those LIARS are trying to kill me.

juliesa on November 4, 2013 at 9:50 AM

The failures of socialism are often memorialized by large numbers of shallow unmarked graves.

trigon on November 4, 2013 at 11:19 AM

I cannot come up with this quote jiving with her statement;

So let me begin by saying this to you and to the American people: I know that there are millions of Americans who are content with their health care coverage — they like their plan and, most importantly, they value their relationship with their doctor. They trust you. And that means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what. My view is that health care reform should be guided by a simple principle: Fix what’s broken and build on what works. And that’s what we intend to do.

So when you hear the naysayers claim that I’m trying to bring about government-run health care, know this: They’re not telling the truth!
Barack Obama June 15 2009

jaydee_007 on November 4, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Congratulations Dianne. You just spun yourself off the cliff with that answer. Too bad it won’t have any impact on you. It would make a devastating campaign ad against you if you represented a state that was somewhat sane and not so hyper-collectivist blue.

djm1992 on November 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM

DiFi can either answer these questions honestly, and admit that she didn’t really know or understand about these changes because a) she never really read the bill, and b) she knew that her vote in favor of Obamacare would transfer significant powers to set the details of the bill to HHS and IRS regulatory definitions or she can continue to try to spin yet another failure of the progressive agenda when theory meets reality.

Any answer reflects very badly on the Congressional Democrats who basically voted for this because of ideological grounds – and their conviction that the government not only knows best, but should control major markets and elements of the national economy.

Spin or not, they are not going to easily stop the collapse of their credibility – even with major elements of the mainstream media working to define the narrative away from their failures and lies.

Athos on November 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

DiFi is a California Democrat – near as close to Immortality as you can come. So she can say anything she wants.

jaydee_007 on November 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM

The GOP leadership should off the Donks some help with all of this by proposing, once again, to repeal the law.

HiJack on November 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Feinstein – another senile example of why we need term limits.

sadatoni on November 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

The GOP leadership should off the Donks some help with all of this by proposing, once again, to repeal the law.

HiJack on November 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Typo or Freudian slip.
I think it works quite well if you just ended the sentence at the Donks.

dentarthurdent on November 4, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Makes absolutlely no sense – this isn’t even spin. I don’t know what it is…

I mean, there is no reason whatsoever for any pol to tell us we can keep doing something until they pass a law – huh??

What would be the point of saying this?

Just unreal.

ChicagoBlue on November 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM

The GOP leadership should off the Donks some help with all of this by proposing, once again, to repeal the law.

HiJack on November 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Great idea, but seeing how they let themselves get castrated over the shutdown and the debt ceiling, I don’t see it happening!

Anti-Control on November 4, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Just wait for the next series of gun legislation…..with my bill- if you like your gun you can keep your gun

jaywemm on November 4, 2013 at 12:02 PM

I hope Feinstein has a massive stroke that leaves her debilitated but living. I hope she spends at least 10 years in a near vegetative state and in intense pain.

Flange on November 4, 2013 at 8:06 AM

While the statement by Sen Feinstein shows herself to be a fool the comment you made was uncalled for.

Republicans are always fighting PR issues because of stupid comments such as those from Todd Akins so we don’t need any help with more stupid comments by wishing ill on someone..

Lets leave defending stupidity to Democrats and get smarter..

theblacksheepwasright on November 4, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Pound sand. The time for civility is way over. You think those asssholes give a flying crap about us being polite? I say flange is 100% dead on. Take your concern trolling elsewhere, old son.

The War Planner on November 4, 2013 at 12:03 PM

When your spin has been shown to be a lie, more spinning doesn’t help you.
 
PackerBronco on November 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM

 

Huh?
 
verbaluce on November 1, 2013 at 2:40 PM

rogerb on November 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Why does such a scumhag get to be on TV?

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Just wait for the next series of gun legislation…..with my bill- if you like your gun you can keep your gun

jaywemm on November 4, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Ya, no kiddin.
After the LAX deal, you just KNOW Feinswine is gearing up a new gun ban attempt.

dentarthurdent on November 4, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Just wait for the next series of gun legislation…..with my bill- if you like your gun you can keep your gun

jaywemm on November 4, 2013 at 12:02 PM

“If you like your second amendment, you can keep your second amendment”….

dentarthurdent on November 4, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Someone told Feinstein and Pelosi that Botox would remove the wrinkly-looking folds on their brains.

It seems to have worked really well.

Marcola on November 4, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Got it?

itsspideyman on November 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM

I guess it’s just too early in the day for sarcasm. I’ll type slower next time.

mchristian on November 4, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Use the /s tag buddy.

You may not believe it, but people really beliieve what you typed.

itsspideyman on November 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM

That corrupt ancient lying sack of … should be in prison for lining her filthy pockets with taxpayer money and those contracts she made sure her disgusting husband got.

jqc1970 on November 4, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Dianne Feinstein: “All vets are mentally ill in some way and government should prevent them from owning firearms”

Yep, – she really said it on Thursday in a meeting in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee and the quote, below, from the LA Times is priceless. Sometimes even the L.A. Times gets it right.

Kurt Nimmo: “Senator Feinstein insults all U.S. Veterans as she flays about in a vain attempt to save her anti-firearms bill.”

“Frankly, I don’t know what it is about California, but we seem to have a strange urge to elect really obnoxious women to high office.

I’m not bragging, you understand, but no other state, including Maine, even comes close. When it comes to sending left-wing dingbats to Washington, we’re Number One. There’s no getting around the fact that the last time anyone saw the likes of Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Maxine Waters, and Nancy Pelosi, they were stirring a cauldron when the curtain went up on ‘Macbeth’.

The four of them are like jackasses who happen to possess the gift of blab. You don’t know if you should condemn them for their stupidity or simply marvel at their ability to form words.”

– Columnist Burt Prelutsky, Los Angeles Times

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 2:02 PM

The Duchess of Dementia.
Since they’re basically royalty and we are their unwashed subjects, might as well go with royal titles.

justltl on November 4, 2013 at 2:34 PM

I imagine she smells like bread dough.

justltl on November 4, 2013 at 2:39 PM

More Realspeak from the regime. This is a sad moment in American history…

Pest on November 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM

While the statement by Sen Feinstein shows herself to be a fool the comment you made was uncalled for.

Republicans are always fighting PR issues because of stupid comments such as those from Todd Akins so we don’t need any help with more stupid comments by wishing ill on someone..

Lets leave defending stupidity to Democrats and get smarter..

theblacksheepwasright on November 4, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Yes, yes, the watch it we have PR problems argument.

Heads up hotshot, how’s that been working for the Tea Party? What was all the rhetoric during the “shutdown”? Terrorist got tossed around a lot, along with seditionist and the every popular racist. Hey, did Bill Clinton get called out by his feminist supporters for harrassment? Nah, anyone who complains about that is a prude.

Point is, the left isn’t playing by the Marquis de Queensberry rules and the media sure is carrying their water for them. Time to hit back hard where you can and then shun them. This isn’t sillyness about stained dresses or lilly ledbetter laws either but outright slavery via healthcare “mandates”.

oryguncon on November 4, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Let me share what I texted my buddy:

“watching Feinstein trying to explain “you can keep it” lie from Obama. Newest spin “what he meant by that was that you could keep your plan UNTIL
Obamacare enacted. Then you lost it.”

Uhhhh, isn’t that the problem everyone is complaining about?

With that kind of help Obama ought to just wrap himself in chains and see how far he can swim!”

My friends were all howling. I mean, really REALLY???

Arrogance is not a virtue. I feel that Diane and the rest are just trying to run out the clock until they retire and can fly to a remote island where 310 million pissed off citizens can’t find them.

archer52 on November 4, 2013 at 5:42 PM

I don’t the Repubs know what they are up against…these people have no soul. They should be treated as such.

d1carter on November 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Arrogance is not a virtue. I feel that Diane and the rest are just trying to run out the clock until they retire and can fly to a remote island where 310 million pissed off citizens can’t find them.

archer52 on November 4, 2013 at 5:42 PM

I agree. The Dems are most definitely “trying to run out the clock.”

Lourdes on November 4, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Just wait for the next series of gun legislation…..with my bill- if you like your gun you can keep your gun

jaywemm on November 4, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Ya, no kiddin.
After the LAX deal, you just KNOW Feinswine is gearing up a new gun ban attempt.

dentarthurdent on November 4, 2013 at 12:25 PM

The crazy man wrote notes. Left/Leftmedia immediately identifies “his manifesto”. The crazy man finds “D&&&k” “Napolitano” “offensive” (and who doesn’t, not many) and Left/Leftmedia immediately associate guy’s actions as “homophobic” and “hateful about ‘gays’”. Crazy guy complains about offensive, irregular personal searches of his person by TSA. Left/Leftmedia immediately blasts “he’s anti-government.”

I wonder how it is that these lone, crazed antagonists are ALWAYS identified (by Left/Leftmedia) and often even before they’re identified and photos of their crimes are even yet available, witnesses not yet questioned, yet immediately Left/Leftmedia has these group-intensive adjectives out there amidst their news.

Lourdes on November 4, 2013 at 8:36 PM

She is worse than a box of rocks. A box of rocks would not have rendered my Stanford engineering degree valueless overnight.

With Valerie Jarrett and now Feinstein, I have removed “Stanford” from my resume.

BTW – game of the week Thursday 6 PM PST, ESPN.

fred5678 on November 5, 2013 at 3:58 AM

We would be much better off as a country and the Senator and her colleagues on both sides of the aisle in the Senate and House would look less like idiots if they would stop enacting huge, “comprehensive”, bills the details of which they do not understand and whose major provisions just delegate the details of writing the law to the executive branch!

In other words Senator, do the hard job of governing that you were elected to do and for which, given the number of members who become wealthy while serving, you are evidently well paid.

Nomas on November 5, 2013 at 7:11 AM

The problem is liars. If she is the best and brightest CA can produce, we’re done for. What a dope. Time to retire to her life of luxury.

StevC on November 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM

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