CNN: Aren’t Republicans vulnerable on ObamaCare for, er, opposing the debacle all along?

posted at 2:01 pm on November 4, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

After watching this exchange between Candy Crowley and Sen. Kelly Ayotte on CNN’s State of the Union yesterday, I had to go back and read the transcript to be sure I heard it correctly. Perhaps Crowley intended to play devil’s advocate here by encapsulating the latest Democratic Party spin to push blame for ObamaCare on the political party that has opposed it all along, and had nothing to do with its implementation. Regardless of intent, this question made my jaw drop:

CROWLEY: I want to play for you something the president said Wednesday in Boston about the opposition to his Affordable Care Act.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Unfortunately, there are others that are so locked into the politics of this thing that they won’t lift a finger to help their own people because if they put as much energy into making this law work as they do in attacking the law, Americans would be better off.

CROWLEY: Now, he is saying in a sort of nuance way what other Democrats are saying right out there which is that you- all would rather defeat the president and Obamacare than help your constituents. Have you helped your constituents who called to your office looking for help? And do you think republicans are vulnerable on this that they have tried so hard and so many times to derail it, but now the criticism looks like nothing but politics? [emphasis mine]

AYOTTE: Well, Candy, my constituents are writing me, but how can I help them when it’s the situation of their getting cancellation notices because of the way that Obamacare is drafted when they can’t access the website because it’s such a mess. So, absolutely, I want to help my constituents. But again, I would say to the president, why doesn’t he call a timeout on this, understanding that it’s not working right now?

This was passed on a party line basis. Why not convene a group to see how can we work together, issues like the 29-hour workweek, issues like if you — people being denied their current plans, issues like rising health care costs, all of which are unfortunately I’m hearing the opposite from my constituents. I want to help them, but obviously, the administration in the way this is being rolled out is a mess. So, it’s time to call a time out.

What exactly is the argument here — that Republicans have been proven correct about what a clusterfark ObamaCare would be, and so their opposition was therefore nothing but politics? Er, doesn’t the multi-layered failures of the scheme demonstrate that opposition was substantive all along?  The website and the skyrocketing premiums show that the ACA should have been derailed years ago, and that the White House has been repeatedly dishonest for years about its impact and their ability to manage it.

Why would that make Republicans vulnerable? Why should they attempt to rescue a system that doesn’t work when they had no investment in it at all?  The idea that Republicans will be vulnerable in 2014 for refusing to ride to Obama’s rescue, rather than Democrats be vulnerable for their own failures and years of dishonesty, sounds like wish-casting from the White House or concern-trolling from the DSCC.


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Candy Crowley is a partisan hack and an idiot, but she’s just trying to come up with some way of playing devil’s advocate so she can avoid piling on Obama and the Dems. The fact that this is the best she can do shows how f’ed the Democrats are.

Doughboy on November 4, 2013 at 2:04 PM

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Newspeak is here, well actually it came right around 2006.

jukin3 on November 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

This the Dems and Obama’s baby. They have to deal with it.

thebrokenrattle on November 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

“Get the transcript talking points, Candy.”

de rigueur on November 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Candy Crowley – Obama Flack.

GarandFan on November 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

What exactly is the argument here — that Republicans have been proven correct about what a clusterfark ObamaCare would be, and so their opposition was therefore nothing but politics?

Republicans are guilty of carrying out counter-revolutionary propaganda and incitement.

NotCoach on November 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

The stupid and fat is strong with that one.

LASue on November 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM

It’s all your fault GOP, because you opposed letting us create and implement this program that was and is impossible to do.
Don’t try to deflect our blame regardless of how many times you told us that this wouldn’t/couldn’t work, because we’re doing it for the children.

Another Drew on November 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Sadly, our electorate is dumb enough to believe it.

National Divorce.

nobar on November 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM

This is getting entertaining. The levels they are going through to save his behind are mind blowing.

gophergirl on November 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I just threw out some sarcasm there.

Upon further study i see what she is saying. Some people thought it was a bad thing to do and said so. They continued to say ti was a bad thing to do as it was proven to be a bad thing to do. Ergo, it is these people’s fault that the bad idea was a bad idea.

jukin3 on November 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM

LOL…Candy Crowley….she’s got the transcript right here. LoL

d1carter on November 4, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Is Candy not satisfied with having “won” a debate for Obama by sandbagging Romney with a mischaracterization of Obama’s remarks on the Benghazi terror attack?

It’s really pathetic how these Democratic operatives are so desperate to blame Republicans for the failure of Obamacare.

AZCoyote on November 4, 2013 at 2:09 PM

I honestly don’t understand where she was trying to go with that. It seems a rather convoluted way of trying to blame Republicans for Obama cares failure possibly? I am not sure they even know what the heck they knew where they were trying to go with that.

Johnnyreb on November 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Whats missing from Ayotte’s otherwise solid answer, in my view, is a fair but forceful & unmistakable slamming of Crowleys head into the proverbial turnbuckle about what an obvious water-carrying question this is, followed by Ayotte pointedly asking what CNN editors and producers decided to frame this question up and ask it during the segment pre-production process…then sit there quietly until Crowley answered.

And if Crowley refused to answer, ask the question again and be ready/willing to stop the interview in its tracks until Crowley explained the CNN editorial world view that produced such an obviously biased, PrObama partisan question in the first place.

Sacramento on November 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM

“Let me be clear. I’m trying to help my constituents by seeking for ways to get rid of this horrible piece of legislation. Period.”

-Senator mankai

mankai on November 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM

That Candy Crowley was willing to put down the bucket of fried chicken long enough to wave that conveniently handy transcript during the second debate says all that needs to be said about her objectivity.

But what the female version of Jabba the Hutt ignores is that Dems enacted this legislation so that they’d get all the credit heading into the 2014 elections. Three years ago they assumed that Obamacare would be such a hit that they wanted to make it clear that the GOP didn’t have a hand in delivering socialized healthcare to the masses. Dems exclusively own the Obamacare debacle.

Happy Nomad on November 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM

I’m certain I’ve said this somewhere else:
If Obamacare had been passed with all 535 members of Congress being members of the Democrat party, and it failed as spectacularly, they would blame republicans for not getting elected to oppose them. These people are so utterly f8cking stupid that they cannot survive without a boogyman to hide behind.

nobar on November 4, 2013 at 2:14 PM

The MSM created this Frankenstein monster (Obama) and they’ll do and say anything to protect it from the villagers!!

Deano1952 on November 4, 2013 at 2:14 PM

If the man is about to rob you, don’t go to the police, it will just make it harder for the man to continue to rob you? That is what she is saying?

It boggles the mind, and why do these politicians not just take down these nasty journalists…that is one thing Christy does, not let them get away with these kind of statements.

The problem isn’t Candy, she is who she is, the problem is allowing her to continue her stupidity as if she is posing a reasonable argument.

The answer should have been:

“Are you insane, why kind of idiocy are you proposing…that the Republican’s should have sat by and just allowed this to be even worse than what it is? We say the disaster and warned you, but you sit there and defend the horrible law, which was passed purely along party dem lines, and now you are saying we should have said nothing? That it would have been better if we didn’t complain and warn you about how bad it was? Who gave you those talking points, I want him or her on this show, at least I can argue with the source and not some mouth piece…this isn’t some debate where you put your own worthless thoughts, and not expect to be nailed for your foolishness again. We warned you, and you—you—you didn’t listen and report it. This is on the democrats and the journalists protecting them.”

right2bright on November 4, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Why would that make Republicans vulnerable? Why should they attempt to rescue a system that doesn’t work when they had no investment in it at all?

- Ed Morrissey

Because central planning will work if all horses are pulling in the same direction. The GOP sabotaged free healthcare for everyone because they didn’t go along with liberal policies. If the GOP would have gone a long with it then it could have been made to work.

Yeah, it doesn’t make sense but even our own liberals trolls have said this.

We laugh because this argument is idiotic but somehow come June this will be refined into some argument about how “obstructionist” Republicans (and evil insurance companies and the “free” market) are preventing the central planners from leading us to utopia.

gwelf on November 4, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Let’s humor Obama’s avatar, Ms. Crowley. What exactly should the GOP do to fix Obamacare? Has Obama actually suggested anything at all? He can veto anything the GOP wants to do, so he has to tell us what he’s willing to sign. Has he done that? More fundamentally, how do you negotiate with a known liar, which Obama very much is now? The debates are over, Candy. You can’t bail out your man this time.

EricW on November 4, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Ayotte could have launched into a statement about obesity being one of the major health problems of Americans but that would have been too mean…

d1carter on November 4, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Why should they attempt to rescue a system that doesn’t work when they had no investment in it at all?

By Crowley’s logic the real guilty party here is the American public. They effed up- they voted for Obama.

Happy Nomad on November 4, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Crowley’s mouth is nothing more than an open sewer that Obama sh*ts in.

echosyst on November 4, 2013 at 2:16 PM

“Obamacare IS a horrible idea, and maybe if the Republicans had done a better job in stopping us, then it wouldn’t have been passed. So really, this is the Republicans’ fault that this became law…blame them” – Democratic talking point in January of 2014.

nextgen_repub on November 4, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Sacramento on November 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM

While I was venting, you posted…spot on.

She should have gone, they should all go after, the journalists who are using these talking points…read Christies book…Campaigning for Dummies…

right2bright on November 4, 2013 at 2:17 PM

I’m just waiting to see if any of the “Smarter” democrats wise-up and go for a full repeal. Of course, I’m running with the assumption that there are, in fact, “smarter” democrats.

Still waiting….

Turtle317 on November 4, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Seriously, Ayotte should have ignored the question with her own statement so as to demonstrate Candy’s bias…but then CNN might not have invited Ayotte back on the show..?

d1carter on November 4, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Come this summer the GOP will be painted as haters because they refuse to fix the Democrat-created mess.

This is why the GOP needs to message NOW and not let the Democrats re-frame this.

gwelf on November 4, 2013 at 2:19 PM

EAT IT (Eat it)
EAT IT (Eat it)
GRAB YOURSELF AN EGG AND BEAT IT!!!
Have a banana
Have a whole bunch
It doesn’t matter
what you had for lunch
JUST EAT IT (da-da… da-da-da)
EAT IT EAT IT EAT IT

Marcola on November 4, 2013 at 2:21 PM

This the Dems and Obama’s baby. They have to deal with it.

thebrokenrattle on November 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Finally, a baby the Dems can’t abort.

VibrioCocci on November 4, 2013 at 2:21 PM

CNN: Aren’t Republicans vulnerable on ObamaCare for, er, opposing the debacle all along?

Translation:

“Why aren’t you Republicans coming to rescue this miserable
pile of Horse sh*t that the Dems created?

gee, I don’t know Candy, why does your face look like
it’s been resting under a steaming Camel pie?

ToddPA on November 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM

gwelf on November 4, 2013 at 2:14 PM

jukin3 on November 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Republicans are guilty of carrying out counter-revolutionary propaganda and incitement.

NotCoach on November 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

NotCoach on November 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Come this summer the GOP will be painted as haters because they refuse to fix the Democrat-created mess.

This is why the GOP needs to message NOW and not let the Democrats re-frame this.

gwelf on November 4, 2013 at 2:19 PM

That has already started here in Kentucky. Two Sundays ago the Lexington Herald newspaper had an Op ed about exactly that. Can’t remember the exact title, but it was something along the lines of…..Republicans man up and offer an alternative to Obama care.

Johnnyreb on November 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM

You helped Obama and the rest of commucrats create this circular firing squad you sow.

antipc on November 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Finally, a baby the Dems can’t abort.

VibrioCocci on November 4, 2013 at 2:21 PM

But they don’t want to stick around and raise it as a single parent either. Which is why they are trying to make the GOP into Obamacare’s baby daddy.

Happy Nomad on November 4, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Yes, how dare the GOP oppose something that, er, doesn’t work. Why aren’t they helping to fix something that they oppose, too?!

Unbelieveable. Then again, she basically tag teamed with Obama during that embarrassment of a debate last fall, so not much of a surprise, either.

changer1701 on November 4, 2013 at 2:27 PM

ive said it for years…

“the press is criminally liable”…

they knew…did not report..and are liable

going2mars on November 4, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Can’t remember the exact title, but it was something along the lines of…..Republicans man up and offer an alternative to Obama care.

Johnnyreb on November 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM

To which demand the GOP should remind the Dems that Obamacare is the law of the land and Obama won the last election. For those reasons we have been told that any dissent is radical right-wing [pick one] treason, blackmail, arson, or terrorism.

Happy Nomad on November 4, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Republicans didn’t shut up and sing when told to do so by The One Most Perfect, Awesome Messiah Of All, and his acolytes Batsh!t Crazy Nan and Harry the Hack.

Therefore, when their Ultimate Grand Plan To Make Everything Perfect Forever blew up in their faces, the Republicans are to blame because they said it would do exactly that.

You have to remember that in the parallel universe inside the Beltway, “getting along to go along” is the ultimate goal. Failures are to be excused, covered up, and blamed on everyone outside the Beltway- anything to avoid acknowledging that those inside are anything less than perfect.

As such, the Republicans who failed to play their assigned subordinate roles in this in the name of “bipartisanship” are the villains. As opposed to simply being the ones who were smart enough to realize that 2 + 2 never = 2, no matter what sort of math you’re using.

Add in the separate and increasingly bizarre other parallel universe between The One’s ears, and it’s no wonder that the progressives right now are desperate for a way to rope their usual dance partners in the GOPe into sharing the blame for this.

They were determined to pass it, make us all pay for it, and proclaim a New Era of Ultimate Peace and Properly-Guided Prosperity For All (Good Party Members at everyone else’s expense). And take sole credit for it.

Now that reality has shat all over their great theory, they’re looking for a “coalition” on the principle of “if everyone has skin in the game, no one will dare criticize”. Rather like the two tricksters with the “Royal Nonesuch” scam in Huckleberry Finn. Or even more precisely like Baron High Ridge and his government in the Star Kingdom of Manticore, at the end of War of Honor by David Weber.

They wanted it. They own it. Nobody else should be under any compulsion or feeling of sympathy to help them avoid responsibility for it.

Actions have consequences. Even in Washington, D.C.

clear ether

eon

eon on November 4, 2013 at 2:28 PM

So Republicans are vulnerable for not trying to put ketchup on the crap sandwiches they told Democrats not to make? And warning people about them was just politics? Yeah Candy, go with that.

RadClown on November 4, 2013 at 2:29 PM

AYOTTE: Well, Candy

That’s all.

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Yeah, but….have you seen how much I support amnesty?

d1carter on November 4, 2013 at 2:30 PM

The website and the skyrocketing premiums show that the ACA ObamaCare should have been derailed years ago, and that the White House has been repeatedly dishonest for years about its impact and their ability to manage it.

Make them own the name. obama embraced it for his re-elect. Let him suffocate on it, and all his flies and cockroaches too.

The idea that Republicans will be vulnerable in 2014 for refusing to ride to Obama’s rescue, rather than Democrats be vulnerable for their own failures and years of dishonesty lies, sounds like wish-casting from the White House or concern-trolling from the DSCC.

Dishonesty = Lies

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Well, as ridiculous and delusional as Crowley is, Kelly Ayotte is usually no better. Actually, the BIG SURPRISE here is that Ayotte DIDN’T agree with Crowley on this. After LYING her way into office on AMNESTY, Ayotte has tacked left on many issues – it would to be foolish to trust her on anything – AND, she rarely listens to her constituents.

Pork-Chop on November 4, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Through the looking glass…

Midas on November 4, 2013 at 2:32 PM

And do you think republicans are vulnerable on this that they have tried so hard and so many times to derail it, but now the criticism looks like nothing but politics?

“Tried” to derail it. Tried and failed. Republicans had no power to stop this friggin’ train once Obama and the Dims passed it into law.

Obama has had over three years, has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the website, and many billions more has been handed out to the states, and this idiotic law is still a train wreck.

Why the hell shouldn’t Republicans — and everyone else who opposed this stupid law — criticize this debacle? It’s turning out to be an even bigger disaster than we warned you it would be.

It’s not that the criticism is “politics” that bugs you Crowley; what bugs you is that the criticism is accurate and well-deserved.

AZCoyote on November 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM

candy towing the wh line…..I’m sure the rest of the lsm will follow suit

cmsinaz on November 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM

The Liar in Chief

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Candy may be right, after all…Obama is madder than anyone.

So that leaves Republican’s less mad, and if they were madder, than Obama would not be madder than anyone, and the Republican’s would be madder.

right2bright on November 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM

To which demand the GOP should remind the Dems that Obamacare is the law of the land and Obama won the last election. For those reasons we have been told that any dissent is radical right-wing [pick one] treason, blackmail, arson, or terrorism.

Happy Nomad on November 4, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Won’t happen in that newspaper. They never ever print even moderate letters or Op eds, just liberal clap trap. I just get the Sunday paper for the coupons and ads. And I skipped this Sunday.

Johnnyreb on November 4, 2013 at 2:34 PM

I thought Ayotte’s response was pathetic. She is still letting Crowley frame the debate by answering “yes, I’m hearing from my constituents blah, blah, blah!” Take Candy to the woodshed for even asking such a pathetically transparent, stupid question that is posed only to serve the liberal agenda. Good grief. Grow a pair and never accept the premise of a question from a liberal!! This is the only thing Gingrich is good at and he ought to have a class for the GOP to attend in how to answer a stupid, f*cking question!

JAM on November 4, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Kinda O/T via Drudge.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/11/04/obama-i-want-to-put-the-fear-of-god-in-all-of-you/

FontanaConservative on November 4, 2013 at 2:36 PM

“Yeah I know how to work this. What we’ll do is not fight Obamacare, let it fail and then the Democrats will have to deal with it. It will be hung around their neck. Yeah that’s how we should do it. The Main Stream Media would NEVER think about blaming this on us”.

Generic Moderate Republican

dirtseller on November 4, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Sen. Ayotte: “But again, I would say to the president, why doesn’t he call a timeout on this, understanding that it’s not working right now?”

Oh Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. A timeout? Don’t you understand? Delaying 0bamacare will only help the Democrats.

Of course it isn’t working, it never will. That’s why you should fully support letting it go forward, ASAP, without any further delays. So the American people can see what a stinking, rotting, piece of garbage 0bamacare is.

UltimateBob on November 4, 2013 at 2:38 PM

I thought Ayotte’s response was pathetic. She is still letting Crowley frame the debate by answering “yes, I’m hearing from my constituents blah, blah, blah!” Take Candy to the woodshed for even asking such a pathetically transparent, stupid question that is posed only to serve the liberal agenda. Good grief. Grow a pair and never accept the premise of a question from a liberal!! This is the only thing Gingrich is good at and he ought to have a class for the GOP to attend in how to answer a stupid, f*cking question!

JAM on November 4, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Great post.

ToddPA on November 4, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Hey remember that time the Dems were eager to help the Bush administration improve the situation on the ground in Iraq when things started going south? Yeah, me neither.

heretic on November 4, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Why not convene a group to see how can we work together, issues like the 29-hour workweek, issues like if you — people being denied their current plans, issues like rising health care costs, all of which are unfortunately I’m hearing the opposite from my constituents. I want to help them, but obviously, the administration in the way this is being rolled out is a mess. So, it’s time to call a time out.

Again, the reality is that the GOP wants to do the above – i.e. “fix” Obamacare – not repeal it. Instead of talking about repeal, she is talking about “fixing” things in a bi-partisan manner.

Does anyone truly believe the GOP will ever repeal this (assuming they have the house, senate and WH)?

I do not.

Monkeytoe on November 4, 2013 at 2:40 PM

fox news just showed a map of the ppl that had their insurance cancelled,,,,3.7million,,,
a number growing by the day,,,,

this is different than all BHO’s other blunders..
F&F and Benghazi…touched so few americans….
the IRS…only looking at the evil Tea PArty goons
and on and on…
but this one forces all americans to look at some form of reality..
this one touches everyone…
not that i think everyone will wake up…or understand..

i think the CiC has found his bridge too far to cross…

going2mars on November 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Just heard Biden on the radio spouting that “Those people want to take us back to the 30′s and 40′s.”This coming from the people that want to take us back to the stone ages over global warming.Obamacare is going to cause doctors to start making house calls again.

docflash on November 4, 2013 at 2:42 PM

People don’t seem to get that Republicans want to defeat Obamacare because its a bad law that does more harm than good. Its as simple as that.

taznar on November 4, 2013 at 2:42 PM

It seems to me that Republicans at this point take one of two positions on this, either all right, let’s — this is going to go into effect January 1, let’s see what we can do to fix it or let us continue to try to derail it.

They tried to derail it, now the ‘law of the land’ is just going to derail itself. Or maybe Candy thinks doing nothing is the same as derailing it. And what ‘fix’ to a law no Republican voted for does she expect them to agree to?

RadClown on November 4, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Dems love accusations of terrorism. Ayotte should have said that blaming Republicans for what Obamacare is doing to the health insurance and healthcare industries is like blaming the passengers for what happened on the four planes in 9/11. Obama and both houses under Democratic control were at the helm of Obamacare. The best that the GOP has been able to do–maybe–is help ditch a plane before it damaged a population center.

Next question.

BuckeyeSam on November 4, 2013 at 2:42 PM

I’m just waiting to see if any of the “Smarter” democrats wise-up and go for a full repeal. Of course, I’m running with the assumption that there are, in fact, “smarter” democrats.

Still waiting….

Turtle317 on November 4, 2013 at 2:17 PM

It will be interesting to see what happens on December 1, when the website probably still won’t be operating properly.

Millions of people in the individual market are getting kicked off their current insurance policies as of Dec. 31. What are they supposed to do if they still can’t buy insurance through the exchanges in December? Just hope they don’t get sick or injured in 2014?

Then there’s the next year, when the employer mandate kicks in and millions more people who currently get health insurance through their employers find out that their coverage is getting terminated too.

That’s a lot of seriously p*ssed off voters to contend with.

AZCoyote on November 4, 2013 at 2:49 PM

The way it works is – if you vote for something, you have no responsibility for it.

If you vote against something – it is your fault when it goes wrong because you did not help to make it work.

That is perfect liberal thinking.

You always vote “for” things that sound good but have lousy results and consequences, but then never accept blame for those lousy results and consequences and always blame the other side for not supporting your programs, which support would somehow have magically made those programs work.

This explains liberal thinking completely.

Monkeytoe on November 4, 2013 at 2:50 PM

As if the media, and specifically CNN, could afford to lose any more credibility than they already have. They are really testing the stupidity of Americans. Voting for Obama was bad enough but now we’re going to find out how many of them are capable of dressing themselves in the morning. Anyone who falls for the BS rhetoric from Obama and his minions at this point is truly a hopeless moron.

cajunpatriot on November 4, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Too Much Candy Crowley.

justltl on November 4, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Hey Candy I have a lovely Mama Cass Ham Sammich just for you. You can choke it down with a diet coke!

neyney on November 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Why does Kelly Ayotte sound like she’s about to cry when she talks?

DanMan on November 4, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Much cognitive dissonance among liberals today.

Tsar of Earth on November 4, 2013 at 2:56 PM

SOW CROWLEY: Have you helped your constituents who called to your office looking for help? And do you think republicans are vulnerable on this that they have tried so hard and so many times to derail it, but now the criticism looks like nothing but politics?

What AYOTTE should have said: (GIANT EYE ROLL!) The TRUTH is NOT one Republican voted for this disaster. They said we don’t need republicans to pass Obamacare! The Dems own it. Everything we said would go wrong, is going wrong. WE TOLD YOU SO! We are the alternative to socialized medicine. The American Health Care Reform Act is the answer to your question. If you want to know more, go to: http://rsc.scalise.house.gov/solutions/rsc-betterway.htm

Thanks for the WH talking points, Candy.

JAM on November 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM

The WH and the MSM know that most Americans are ignorant fools.

They will play that card every-day all-day.

And it will work. All they have to do is keep repeating it.

Carnac on November 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Just heard Biden on the radio spouting that “Those people want to take us back to the 30′s and 40′s.”

docflash on November 4, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Yes, it would be terrible to go back to the days before Medicare and Medicaid, before S-CHIP and EMTALA, and all the other federal laws that have so completely distorted the health care market. Back to the days when physicians and hospitals set prices according to what the market would bear, rather than what the government dictated. Back to the days when there were thousands of charity hospitals and neighborhood clinics that offered low-cost health care services to the poor.

Yes, what would we do without Big Daddy Government issuing thousands of pages of new regulations, or facilitating billions of dollars in Medicare and Medicaid fraud every year? We might actually have a health care system that was affordable for most Americans. Sure, it wouldn’t be perfect, and there would be some people and some areas that would be under-served, but it would be a damn sight better than what we have now.

AZCoyote on November 4, 2013 at 3:00 PM

World’s smartest man wishing he had taken that deal the Teahaddist hostage takers had proposed.

jukin3 on November 4, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Even when Dems lose, they behave as if they’ve won. Even when Republicans win, they behave as if they’ve lost. This encapsulates that theory quite nicely.

gryphon202 on November 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Candy got her marching orders and has set out to make pretzels outta the WH logic. Good luck with that one, hon.

Kissmygrits on November 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM

How can you blame ‘pubs?

Despite how squishy some of them might be, there are no ‘pub fingerprints in any of this mess.

Eat you cr@p sandwich, Candy. You certainly helped make it.

freedomfirst on November 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM

And now we can look forward to Ms. Crowley spending the next week walking this back the way she did with her debate performance.

Tsar of Earth on November 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM

By the way, a “timeout” works to the benefit of leftists.

This should be enforced to the letter or repealed. I’d rather it be repealed.

freedomfirst on November 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Why do Republicans go on this show? THey shouldn’t do any show on CNN, but especially Crowley’s. I wouldn’t send another Republican on that show, period, until Crowley is gone. The way she set up Mitt Romney to look like a liar, in front of 60 million people showed her to be little more than a partisan hack. Questions like these just add to that perception. Just boycott the show, but make sure you tell the world why you’re boycotting and let the war games begin.

bflat879 on November 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Want to know why Christie is going to walk away with the election in NJ?

Because he throws this BS right back into the MSM’s face. The MSM has no idea how to fight back and have to agree with Christie because….HE IS RIGHT. Ayotte should have just laid into the stupid cow for being and saying such an idiotic thing.

Why the establishment republicans are so scared of fighting back is beyond me. Note to GOP, the MSM will NEVER like you. Get used to it. It is not going to change.

jukin3 on November 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM

The WH and the MSM know that most Americans are ignorant fools.

They will play that card every-day all-day.

And it will work. All they have to do is keep repeating it.

Carnac on November 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM

So true. So frustrating. So scary.

Tsar of Earth on November 4, 2013 at 3:17 PM

“Get the transcript talking points, Candy.”

de rigueur on November 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

“No talking points for YOU, Ms. Ayotte!” /Soup Nazi

fred5678 on November 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Its amazing how quickly the DNC talking points get spread around. Do they use Fed Ex? I just saw Rob Reiner (“meathead” from All in the Family) explaining that everything wrong with Obamacare was the Republicans fault. It seems that all legislation needs more legislation to fix it, so as the Republicans never went along with this extra legislation its all their fault if things went wrong.

In other words, because the Republicans aren’t Democrats, they broke it.

Fred 2 on November 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Hey Candy I have a lovely Mama Cass Ham Sammich just for you. You can choke it down with a diet coke!

neyney on November 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Now, now, keep it classy. Wishing death on someone is DU material, not Hot Gas.

Del Dolemonte on November 4, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Ayotte is also a complete failure on amnesty.

Zero logic – how did she ever pass the bar???

fred5678 on November 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Despite the fact that the republicans have been trying to help, but Hairy Reed and his gang of socialists don’t want their help.

TerryW on November 4, 2013 at 3:32 PM

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Newspeak is here, well actually it came right around 2006.

jukin3 on November 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

““Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thought-crime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed will be expressed by eactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten. . . . The process will still be continuing long after you and I are dead. Every year fewer and fewer words, and the range of consciousness always a little smaller. Even now, of course, there’s no reason or excuse for commiting thought-crime. It’s merely a question of self-discipline, reality-control. But in the end there won’t be any need even for that. . . . Has it ever occcured to you, Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?” – 1984

workingclass artist on November 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM

And if Crowley refused to answer, ask the question again and be ready/willing to stop the interview in its tracks [...]

Sacramento on November 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM

That would take some guts. It might cost Ayotte a cocktail party invite or two. Remember where she stands (which is right next to her mentor John McInsane). The Dems aren’t her enemy, nor is the MSM, with whom she hopes to have a long, cozy relationship.

Why do Republicans go on this show? THey shouldn’t do any show on CNN, but especially Crowley’s.[...]

bflat879 on November 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Charlie Brown. Football. Lucy.

Actually, if there wasn’t some weird unwritten law that says that we can’t fight back with the same weapons that they use on us, a little Alinsky would be sweet.

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy.

Who first? Crowley maybe? A concerted effort might do a lot of damage. Not fair, not right? Why? Because she’s always shown such concern for us and by extension, the whole damn country? And something more… bring down even ONE of the MSM brahmins, and the herd will notice, bigtime. They’re wannabe bullies. And we need to punch one in the nose. Hard.

bofh on November 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Republicans aren’t sabotaging Obamacare. Obamacare itself is the sabotage.

Rich H on November 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Hey Candy I have a lovely Mama Cass Ham Sammich just for you. You can choke it down with a diet coke!

neyney on November 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM

I heard a comic say if Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter had split that ham sandwich they would both be alive.

docflash on November 4, 2013 at 3:54 PM

The talking point to wait for is going to be that yes, this is the Republicans fault. We democrats in our willingness to compromise and work with the right, rolled out this free market approach to saving our health care system. Obviously the evil insurance companies have taken advantage of this and are cancelling plans etc, but thats what we get when we have a free market capitalist system. Obviously the free market approach we passed with Republicans (none of whom voted for the plan) is not working. If the Republicans would have worked with us instead, we could have gotten it right the first time. Obviously the government now will have to step in and do it right like we should have the first time with a single payer plan.

Koa on November 4, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Candy Crowley?

The Fact Checker of Benghazi Candy Crowley?

DarthBrooks on November 4, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Ayotte arrives at CNN: “C’mon in, can I take your coat? There’s plenty of donuts and Kool Aid in the newsroom if you’d like some.”

forest on November 4, 2013 at 4:15 PM

“No wait, sorry, did Crowley beer-bong all the Kool Aid again?”

forest on November 4, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Ayotte is proving to be very poor at understanding the loaded false premise questions of the hard left media.

CROWLEY: Now, he is saying in a sort of nuance way what other Democrats are saying right out there which is that you- all would rather defeat the president and Obamacare than help your constituents. Have you helped your constituents who called to your office looking for help? And do you think republicans are vulnerable on this that they have tried so hard and so many times to derail it, but now the criticism looks like nothing but politics?

The FALSE premise is that Obamacare HELPS ANYONE! Ayotte needed to rip into Crowley for making this false assumption. Unfortunatly, Ayotte ACCEPTED this false claim and tried to apply it to herself.

I suspect this is EXACTLY what happens to her when she slides into the RINO camp on other issues like amnesty and ‘unfettered’ debt ceiling increases.

Freddy on November 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Hey Candy I have a lovely Mama Cass Ham Sammich just for you. You can choke it down with a diet coke!

neyney on November 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Now, now, keep it classy. Wishing death on someone is DU material, not Hot Gas.

Del Dolemonte on November 4, 2013 at 3:25 PM

KFC’s new boneless fried chicken was invented just for Candy, to save her an hour or two a day.

slickwillie2001 on November 4, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Candy: heads democrats win tales Republicans loooz.

R Square on November 4, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Candy… Crowley.

Fail.

Key West Reader on November 4, 2013 at 5:11 PM

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