CNN: Aren’t Republicans vulnerable on ObamaCare for, er, opposing the debacle all along?

posted at 2:01 pm on November 4, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

After watching this exchange between Candy Crowley and Sen. Kelly Ayotte on CNN’s State of the Union yesterday, I had to go back and read the transcript to be sure I heard it correctly. Perhaps Crowley intended to play devil’s advocate here by encapsulating the latest Democratic Party spin to push blame for ObamaCare on the political party that has opposed it all along, and had nothing to do with its implementation. Regardless of intent, this question made my jaw drop:

CROWLEY: I want to play for you something the president said Wednesday in Boston about the opposition to his Affordable Care Act.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Unfortunately, there are others that are so locked into the politics of this thing that they won’t lift a finger to help their own people because if they put as much energy into making this law work as they do in attacking the law, Americans would be better off.

CROWLEY: Now, he is saying in a sort of nuance way what other Democrats are saying right out there which is that you- all would rather defeat the president and Obamacare than help your constituents. Have you helped your constituents who called to your office looking for help? And do you think republicans are vulnerable on this that they have tried so hard and so many times to derail it, but now the criticism looks like nothing but politics? [emphasis mine]

AYOTTE: Well, Candy, my constituents are writing me, but how can I help them when it’s the situation of their getting cancellation notices because of the way that Obamacare is drafted when they can’t access the website because it’s such a mess. So, absolutely, I want to help my constituents. But again, I would say to the president, why doesn’t he call a timeout on this, understanding that it’s not working right now?

This was passed on a party line basis. Why not convene a group to see how can we work together, issues like the 29-hour workweek, issues like if you — people being denied their current plans, issues like rising health care costs, all of which are unfortunately I’m hearing the opposite from my constituents. I want to help them, but obviously, the administration in the way this is being rolled out is a mess. So, it’s time to call a time out.

What exactly is the argument here — that Republicans have been proven correct about what a clusterfark ObamaCare would be, and so their opposition was therefore nothing but politics? Er, doesn’t the multi-layered failures of the scheme demonstrate that opposition was substantive all along?  The website and the skyrocketing premiums show that the ACA should have been derailed years ago, and that the White House has been repeatedly dishonest for years about its impact and their ability to manage it.

Why would that make Republicans vulnerable? Why should they attempt to rescue a system that doesn’t work when they had no investment in it at all?  The idea that Republicans will be vulnerable in 2014 for refusing to ride to Obama’s rescue, rather than Democrats be vulnerable for their own failures and years of dishonesty, sounds like wish-casting from the White House or concern-trolling from the DSCC.


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KFC’s new boneless fried chicken was invented just for Candy, to save her an hour or two a day.

slickwillie2001 on November 4, 2013 at 4:30 PM

I think it was them KFC bowls that got to her.. KFC takes EBT, uh huh! They do!

Key West Reader on November 4, 2013 at 5:12 PM

The idea that Republicans will be vulnerable in 2014 for refusing to ride to Obama’s rescue, rather than Democrats be vulnerable for their own failures and years of dishonesty, sounds like wish-casting from the White House or concern-trolling from the DSCC.

…or ‘reporting’ from the biased, shilling, sycophants of the lapdog media, like Candy Crowley.

At least, along with the Democrats, the President, the WH, the DNC, and the DSCC, the apparatchiks in the lapdog media are also hemorrhaging credibility at an unprecedented pace.

Athos on November 4, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Can’t wait to see which debate Candy will get to moderate next.

FlaMurph on November 4, 2013 at 5:42 PM

I heard a comic say if Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter had split that ham sandwich they would both be alive.

no ordinary comic either, that was Kinky Friedman, the last time I saw him perform he pulled the Yom Kipper Clipper right up on the sidewalk at Fitzgerald’s in Houston and left it at the door while he did his thing. Writes pretty good detective books too.

DanMan on November 4, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Perhaps Crowley intended to play devil’s advocate here by encapsulating the latest Democratic Party spin

Ed – There is zero reason to believe that Candy Crowley is not a fully-enrolled member of the Obama public relations team.

There were numerous ways available to pursue the topic without using the Democrats political attack line. CNN hosts have long practiced the art of “quoting the attack” rather than having it come directly from the CNN control room.

pilsener on November 4, 2013 at 5:46 PM

I heard a comic say if Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter had split that ham sandwich they would both be alive.

no ordinary comic either, that was Kinky Friedman, the last time I saw him perform he pulled the Yom Kipper Clipper right up on the sidewalk at Fitzgerald’s in Houston and left it at the door while he did his thing. Writes pretty good detective books too.

DanMan on November 4, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Kinky was a musician long before turning to comedy-had a group called the Texas Jewboys! A “lost” album of theirs was just released.

Kinky just announced that he’s running for Texas Agriculture Commissioner. He also sells cigars on his website.

Del Dolemonte on November 4, 2013 at 6:19 PM

How Many Health Plans Are Classified As “Substandard” Under Obamacare? 98 Percent…

Even people with so-called “Cadillac” plans are getting cancellation notices because their coverage doesn’t meet Obamacare’s standards.

Via American Commitment:

. . . Millions of Americans are being told their plans are “lousy” or “crummy” because they are indeed, in a hyper-literal sense of the word, “substandard.”

Meaning they fail to meet the new standard for so-called Essential Health Benefits required of all plans in the individual and small-group markets when they lose grandfather status. This is the “standard,” in brief [seen above]:

This “standard” excluded nearly every plan in the individual market.

According to HealthPocket: “The data shows that there will be a near complete transformation of the individual and family health insurance market starting in 2014. Less than 2% of the existing health plans in the individual market today provide all the Essential Health Benefits required under the Affordable Care Act (ACA).”

Even the best of the best plans are being canceled in the individual market. Bob Laszewski, a top industry analyst, described his cancelation:

“I have been in this business for 40 years. I know junk health insurance when I see it and I know ‘Cadillac’ health insurance when I see it. Right now I have ‘Cadillac’ health insurance… The new plan would have a deductible $500 higher than the one I now have and a lot more if I go “out-of-network” inside the rest of the Blue Cross national network… And, wait all you people telling me rate shock does not exist, the new far more restricted plan costs 66% more than our current monthly premium.”

Resist We Much on November 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Hey Candy—ObamaCare is a terrorist act—and the Democrats own it 100%. (be sure to pass this on to Mitt)

Rovin on November 4, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Can’t wait to see which debate Candy will get to moderate next.

FlaMurph on November 4, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Maybe you can find some clues if you Google “Ignorant sow needed to moderate debate.”

justltl on November 4, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Kelly who?

She’s that McCain gal from the Northeast. One of the Maine gals soul sistas right?

PappyD61 on November 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Republicans have to stop pretending Obamacare is fixable at this point. There is no band-aid bill that could be passed now to undo all the damage. They can not get people back on their old plans. Stop buying into that democrat talking point. Rather emphasize how badly Obamacare has damaged the health care system and that health care should be passed back to state jurisdiction where it belongs.

D.L.Mc on November 4, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Just like out of George Orwell’s 1984:
‘He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.’

Rewrite history to make it fit the present agenda.

albill on November 4, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Wrap Candy in copper wire, put two large permanent magnets next to her, set her on a turntable… every time she opens her mouth she will power the entire Northeast with her spin.

ajacksonian on November 4, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Wrap Candy in copper wire, put two large permanent magnets next to her, set her on a turntable… every time she opens her mouth she will power the entire Northeast with her spin.

ajacksonian on November 4, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Or keeping the Queen Mary from floating away.

CWchangedhisNicagain on November 4, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Waiting for Wesley Mouch to address the nation and explain how the unpatriotic extremist capitalists who unfairly forced this system to launch badly, will be repaid with higher taxes and stricter regulations, so that fairness and equality may be restored.

Freelancer on November 4, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Kelly who?

She’s that McCain gal from the Northeast. One of the Maine gals soul sistas right?

PappyD61 on November 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM

No, Kelly is from here in New Hampshire. She was our state Attorney General and was fearless in the courtroom; she successfully prosecuted several huge murder cases, including one of 2 Dartmouth College professors (killed by 2 punks from Vermont) and also the murder of a cop in Manchester, the largest NH city. Her husband was a pilot in Iraq (Air National Guard, Lieutenant Colonel).

Del Dolemonte on November 4, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Obamacare laws may force doctors to work for less or quit altogether.

VA Democrat Kathleen Murphy is proposing that doctors be forced to see Medicare and Medicaid patients.

anotherJoe on November 4, 2013 at 7:35 PM

New obama Lie

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Obamacare laws may force doctors to work for less or quit altogether

Quit, go gulching, and work for bartering.

Ayn Rand loves you from her grave! Good people will sustain you, and you them.

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Let’s add Crowley’s name to the list of Toby (Toolbag Obama Ballwasher of the Year) Award nominees for 2013.

Bruce MacMahon on November 4, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Candy puzzles me. Usually, a television personality with low intelligence and poor interviewing skills would at least be physically attractive. Why is she employed?

morganfrost on November 4, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Republicans knew it was running off course and didn’t try to save it, “oh no!”

Republicans predicted dire consequences and then their far fetched visions all came true, “”Ohhhhh nooooo, Mr. Bill!”

Republicans aren’t any fun, they always see things going wrong and try to ruin everyones’ fun.

Fleuries on November 4, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, girl.

teacherman on November 4, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Megyn Kelly on Fox is ripping The Won to shreds right now. I think I’m falling in love with her. She’s brutal. I’ll bet Sparky Crispy Crease hates her.

Oldnuke on November 4, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Well, as ridiculous and delusional as Crowley is, Kelly Ayotte is usually no better. Actually, the BIG SURPRISE here is that Ayotte DIDN’T agree with Crowley on this. After LYING her way into office on AMNESTY, Ayotte has tacked left on many issues – it would to be foolish to trust her on anything – AND, she rarely listens to her constituents.

Pork-Chop on November 4, 2013 at 2:32 PM

I hardly listen to them anymore they are such frauds whether we are talking Rubio, Ayotte or Flake. They will do whatever the establishment tells them to do and it won’t include fighting against Obamacare. They just want to leverage people’s discontent to get reelected.

Wigglesworth on November 4, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Del Dolemonte on November 4, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Ayotte rolled over like a French poodle on amnesty.

Wigglesworth on November 4, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Debacle. hahaha. Its a debacle.

Hey Candy—ObamaCare is a terrorist act—and the Democrats own it 100%. (be sure to pass this on to Mitt)

Rovin on November 4, 2013 at 6:48 PM

SparkPlug on November 4, 2013 at 10:15 PM

And some may wonder why CNN has dropped so far in the ratings?

Sheesh.

http://godzillafacepalm.com

ProfShadow on November 4, 2013 at 11:14 PM

The idea that Republicans will be vulnerable in 2014 for refusing to ride to Obama’s rescue, rather than Democrats be vulnerable for their own failures and years of dishonesty, sounds like wish-casting from the White House or concern-trolling from the DSCC.

SOP.

MT on November 4, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Crowley is a dyed-in-the-wool leftist propagandist. She hasn’t done anything close to “journalism” as the word is commonly understood in quite some years. She’s been all about advocacy.

I understand that some Republicans worry about not being invited back on TV, but I wish more of them would stand up to her and those like her – David Gregory, Stephanie-opolous, etc. – and tell it like it is. Call them Democratic hacks to their faces. Call MRC ahead of time and they’ve give you a notebook of examples on any major network host.

I watched old Fritz Hollings go off the liberal deep end, but I remember the last time I respected him. He was on This Week with David Brinkley defending his textile protectionism with a bunch of crap about jobs, as if they could be saved by paying more for tee shirts, when Sam Donaldson leaned forward, touched the sleeve of Hollings’ suit jacket and said, “Nice – where did you buy that suit, Senator?”

It was well known Hollings had a Hong Kong tailor back then and would stop in while on “fact-finding” missions to Asia. But Fritz didn’t blink an eye.

He drew back, shocked, and said, “Why, Sam, I don’t ask where you buy your toupees!” End of interview!

Adjoran on November 5, 2013 at 12:41 AM

A good from James Gawron on ricochet:

I will repeat this as many times as necessary.

Over 100 million Americans will lose their Health Insurance and be forced to pay 50 to 100% more. They will be severely restricted in their choice of Doctor or Hospital. Their care will be rationed for sure. The Administration knew this from their own 2010 internal study published in the Federal Register. This is the source of the facts that are quoted.

This huge pool of Americans are being herded into a Web Site that does not work. If they should get through, there is a high likelihood that their most sensitive personal data will be compromised.

This is not a transfer payment scheme. A simple tax could have been passed that subsidized the poor’s Health Insurance. It would have been fabulously less expensive and would not have resulted in the total disruption of Health Care in America.

Napoleon took Moscow. He couldn’t hold it long. Our job is to harry his retreat with everything we can throw at him until he is no longer a threat to anyone.

anotherJoe on November 5, 2013 at 2:19 AM

CNN: Aren’t Republicans vulnerable on ObamaCare for, er, opposing the debacle all along?

Yes liberalism is a brain disorder.

bgibbs1000 on November 5, 2013 at 6:16 AM

Currently laughing his ass off: Ted Cruz

eaglephin on November 5, 2013 at 6:24 AM

Candy Crowley’s comments are a given. My jaw is slack from the dumba$$ response from My Senator from NH. This is why we are in so much trouble. Liberals can get away with anything when the conservatives no longer have the stones, or maybe the brains, to fight back. There IS NO WAY that “question” should have been acknowledged let alone graced with an answer….an answer that was so weak and clumsy it alone made me light headed. I threw up a little in my mouth….Ugh….sigh….

evilcon555 on November 5, 2013 at 7:14 AM

Quit, go gulching, and work for bartering.

Ayn Rand loves you from her grave! Good people will sustain you, and you them.

Schadenfreude on November 4, 2013 at 7:41 PM

That is a great post.

justltl on November 5, 2013 at 7:31 AM

Fine Americans oppose socialism. Period.

JackM on November 5, 2013 at 7:34 AM

“Candy” is a good stripper name. I would suggest Candy switch professions, but she’s too ugly.

JackM on November 5, 2013 at 7:37 AM

Can’t wait to see the voting figures for todays election; I wonder if we’ll get some districts at over 100% for the Progressives like the last election.

mixplix on November 5, 2013 at 7:54 AM

Still licking the Mickey Mouse LSD stamps.

NoPain on November 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM

What is really scary is that no matter how much this president lies and deceives his followers blindly follow. Let’s hope he doesn’t start getting ideas that Tea Party members belong in concentration (or re-education) camps. If he did somehow I feel old’ Candy Crawley would be all for it.

Herb on November 5, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Wikipedia describes Crowley as an “anchor.” Yeah, I can see that. She has the size to anchor most seacraft.

NoPain on November 5, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Ayotte should be a one-termer. You guys in NH should fix that.

TX-96 on November 5, 2013 at 5:23 PM

The GOP lost big in 2008 and thus allowed the Dems to enact their worst ideas into law laden like a kid given free reign at a candy store. In that sense, I suppose you could blame them, but expecting them to get on board with anything that was passed without revealing the contents bill or inviting their input is as ignorant and stupid as anything I’ve heard. Ms. Crowley is apparently running to take over Helen Thomas’ spot.

flataffect on November 6, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Obama has been blaming Bush and the GOP for all his failures since he was elected. He was given nearly unchecked powers and a mandate to fix the economy but all he did was make it worse and run up the debt with wasteful spending. And the press has been complicit in all this, including MSNBC and CNN. Now they’re trying to avoid accountability.

We should fire them all.

flataffect on November 6, 2013 at 5:49 PM

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