WH: Yeah, about those 7 million people we needed to register for Obamacare…

posted at 6:31 pm on November 3, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

It was quite the weekend of, shall we say, managing expectations in Washington. Erika already pointed out that the original roll out for the whole, “if you like your plan” may have been questioned internally by subject matter experts and advisors, but hey… that didn’t matter. See, we never really meant all the plans. Just the good ones.

Another theme you previously heard from administration officials over and over again dealt with how many people absolutely, positively, without a doubt would need to be enrolled in the program in order for it to be able to stand on its own feet financially. That number, lest you somehow missed it, was seven million. We need everyone on board with this and registered in order for everyone to share the burden. But, as Andrew Johnson points out at The Corner, White House spokesman Dan Pfeiffer showed up on the Sunday show circuit to say that the original number may have been more of an estimate.

Dan Pfeiffer, one of President Obama’s top advisers, played down the initial estimation that 7 million people would need to enroll in Obamacare exchanges in order for the program to succeed. He said the White House wasn’t going off of that figure offered by the Congressional Budget Office, but rather just try to “as many people done as possible.”

Let’s go to the video.

You have to admit, as targets go, as many people as possible is a pretty comfortable goal. You pretty much can’t miss that one, even if the number turns out to be six. But seriously, if there are any software people left in the country currently not working on fixing this debacle, somebody may want to build us a database just to keep track of the number of different stories we’ve been told about this program from the original bill of sale to present.

On a possibly related topic, do you suppose these shifting tales of woe could have something to do with The One’s daily job approval rating finally hitting 40?


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Just get more movie stars to make videos and stuff.

rjcylon on November 3, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Let them go to a barber for their medical care. Or they can use home remedies.

VorDaj on November 3, 2013 at 6:41 PM

The goal posts have left the country, repeat, the goal posts have left the country.

Warp speed Mr. Scott.

Johnnyreb on November 3, 2013 at 6:42 PM

President Emily Litella.

rbj on November 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM

“as many people done as possible.”

Orwellian Newspeak for “FUBAR”.

MichaelGabriel on November 3, 2013 at 6:44 PM

If they spin any faster, Earth will move to a fifteen hour day!

OldEnglish on November 3, 2013 at 6:46 PM

And the State Run Media journolisters nod and pledge their support…

d1carter on November 3, 2013 at 6:46 PM

You can see the defeat in his eyes.

Punchenko on November 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM

Let me get this straight. We have roughly 50 million people uninsured come January and they can’t even get 1 million to sign up for their super secrety awesomest insurance evah? Wow.

txhsmom on November 3, 2013 at 6:48 PM

As silly as they look, they’re getting away with all this to a great degree.

This debacle would have destroyed a Republican administration.

See also: Benghazi, IRS, NSA

All this reveals a fundamental (fatal?) flaw in our current system.

mankai on November 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM

So the only way they fail this is… having to take the entire website down and scrap it to start over.

Failure is an option.

ajacksonian on November 3, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Let them go to a barber for their medical care. Or they can use home remedies.

VorDaj on November 3, 2013 at 6:41 PM

I see a big future for leeches — the worms, not the majority of Americans and illegals …

ShainS on November 3, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Let them go to a barber for their medical care. Or they can use home remedies.

VorDaj on November 3, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Leeches. And bleeding. Lots and lots of bleeding. Oh, and violent purgatives. Can’t forget those (and you won’t). Let it ALL run out.

Man, I’m really looking forward to my next doctor visit…

Kraken on November 3, 2013 at 6:59 PM

People getting dropped will eventually be pushed to the exchanges, if they can afford it!

tim c on November 3, 2013 at 6:59 PM

ShainS on November 3, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Timing is everything in this world…

Kraken on November 3, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Failure is success!
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

albill on November 3, 2013 at 7:00 PM

The real problem for the Spitehouse is the 7 Million who have/will lost/lose their insurance and won’t be able to buy replacement insurance because the Exchange is “glitchy”.

JimK on November 3, 2013 at 7:01 PM

As silly as they look, they’re getting away with all this to a great degree.

This debacle would have destroyed a Republican administration.

See also: Benghazi, IRS, NSA

All this reveals a fundamental (fatal?) flaw in our current system.

mankai on November 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM

It’s the media and academia. They have too much power and influence over what is and what is not acceptable. And they guard this power jealously.

It’s a flaw that can be corrected if more right-leaning Americans infiltrated mass media and the universities.

Punchenko on November 3, 2013 at 7:02 PM

I got my hopes on the end of November, like he promised.

newportmike on November 3, 2013 at 7:05 PM

I get plenty of porn spam.Their websites always work.

docflash on November 3, 2013 at 7:10 PM

…bullshit!

KOOLAID2 on November 3, 2013 at 7:11 PM

To be honest, I think this was a lousy Sunday for the Obama team. They sent out Axelrod, Pfeiffer, and Ezekiel Emmanuel. All three were bad, and I thought Emmanuel looked incredibly bad. I’m betting Obama couldn’t get any other takers to go out and defend this turd.

BuckeyeSam on November 3, 2013 at 7:14 PM

People getting dropped will eventually be pushed to the exchanges, if they can afford it!

tim c on November 3, 2013 at 6:59 PM

What’s the incentive to enter them, when you can always get insurance later? I’m predicting mass civil disobedience.

BuckeyeSam on November 3, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Timing is everything in this world…

Kraken on November 3, 2013 at 7:00 PM

LOL

ShainS on November 3, 2013 at 7:18 PM

These young guys from the WH remind me of telemarketers, holed up in some crappy boiler room, always slinging out more BS to cover their tracks and induce you to buy.

YUCK.

PattyJ on November 3, 2013 at 7:19 PM

I currently have a low premium ($150/month), high deductible ($6,000) plan that I’m quite happy with. I’ve had it for years and have only ever exceeded my deductible once, the year my son was born and also required surgery.

So, if my plan changes to something unreasonable I just won’t buy insurance. I’ll self-insure to the best if my ability. And if Rush was right about the IRS not being able to penalize you or collect the fine unless you have a refund coming, I won’t pay the fine either.

I’ve already been questioning doctors about concierge services.

If enough healthy people did the same, Obamacare wouldn’t have sufficient funding.

Charlemagne on November 3, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Actually, the 7 million figure wasn’t critical, it was estimated they would need that many overall to get the 2.7 million young, healthy people they absolutely MUST enroll to cover the costs of the sicker and older enrollees, and new Medicaid parasites. Even that estimate may be low, as CBO’s history of estimating the costs of new entitlements is not one of remarkable accuracy or conservative projections.

One of the huge problems with PPACA structurally is it is built for adverse selection: the only people who save any money are those who need coverage because of sickness or whose income is low enough to “earn” large subsidies or a new Medicaid freebie. The rank and file of average people are almost all getting screwed, giving them a disincentive to enroll. And the young people they cannot make the numbers work without are going to see shocking numbers for coverage they don’t really want or need.

Adjoran on November 3, 2013 at 7:29 PM

MORE LIPSTICK!

GarandFan on November 3, 2013 at 7:29 PM

7,000,000 / 313,000,000 = a measly 2.24% of the population.

And they won’t even come close. Even with the millions getting kicked off their current policies, the supposed 40,000,000 uninsured, and the MANDATE. How pathetic is that?

They blew up the economy for this??

takeamericabackin10 on November 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Just get more movie stars to make videos and stuff.
rjcylon on November 3, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Better idea: Just get some guy with a video camera and a YouBube account to make another trailer for a fake anti-Muhammad movie.

Marcola on November 3, 2013 at 7:35 PM

“everyone to share the burden”

Never a truer phrase written. The ACA (Obamacare)policies now stand for “American Collectivist Assurance” policies which accords with the Communist Manifesto ensuring everyone’s right to healthcare …

…well until the “death panels” come in to play. Remember, the designer of Obamacare is Ezekiel Emmanuel, a bio-ethicist who is a believer in eugenics

Jimbobby on November 3, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Barry needs to hit 35%.

Then we’ll know it’s down to public-sector workers and the black community.

budfox on November 3, 2013 at 7:41 PM

This poor little puff is going to have another “heart event” if he keeps spinning this hard…

dpduq on November 3, 2013 at 7:46 PM

But seriously, if there are any software people left in the country currently not working on fixing this debacle, somebody may want to build us a database just to keep track of the number of different stories we’ve been told about this program from the original bill of sale to present.

There is not sufficient computer capacity in the entire world to track the lies that have been (and no doubt will continue to be) told by President 404 about Obamacare and all of its splendor.

TXUS on November 3, 2013 at 7:47 PM

BuckeyeSam -when the company I was working for Reorganized – being upper management the door opened and I survived 7 years without the 3 medications I had been on for 7 years -kindof going Gault so to speak – Hope all will survive the same way – I would bet most Doctors would renew meds under the table for cash – Heck I’m 60 and I think it is a shame our U.S.A. has been “Had”..

wheels on November 3, 2013 at 7:47 PM

I find it hard to believe that an official from the White House would lie publicly about something as important as health care. Oh, wait a minute . . .

chazmaz on November 3, 2013 at 7:50 PM

The goal is “as many people done as possible.”

Imagine saying that in the private business world.

CWchangedhisNicagain on November 3, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Maybe they should have done it by simply clicking LIKE on Facebook.
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CWchangedhisNicagain on November 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM

takeamericabackin10 on November 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM

if you throw 40 million fish back into the pool
of what you said was 35 million fish…
it makes it easier to catch 7 million fish…
it looks like a form of Biden math to me…

someday they may get 7 million fish
6,999,998 of them will be from the pool who allready had insurance when they started..

going2mars on November 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM

It’s shocking that substandard people like Dan Pfeiffer have been allowed to wreck this country. Seriously, he’s not even good at lying. This guy sucks.

forest on November 3, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Maybe they should have done it by simply clicking LIKE on Facebook.
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CWchangedhisNicagain on November 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Actually not a bad idea, since FB has enough data on each user to fill at least 4 or 5 pages with data.
Though if anyone with brains were running the show they would have basic applications ready to go out along with the 2010 census, just after the law was signed.

whatcat on November 3, 2013 at 8:11 PM

You have to admit, as targets go, as many people as possible is a pretty comfortable goal. You pretty much can’t miss that one, even if the number turns out to be six.

Of course, 5 of those 6 were Medicaid applications….

whatcat on November 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM

According to a caller to Rush on Friday, the website verifies id by checking to see if the applicant has a credit history at experian. Callers without credit history, like students, will not be verified and are referred to a phone number. However, illegal aliens often work with stolen social security numbers, and they can get credit, which they use for identification. They also can get bank accounts.

The Obamacare system includes voter registration.

This exceeds even motor voter in audacity, and just in time for the next election

Meanwhile, all the hoopla is good cover

entagor on November 3, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Mahalo Justice Roberts!

racquetballer on November 3, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Jeezus.

Jobs saved or created – nice and vague.

7 million need to be enrolled. As many as possible.

Fricken A-Wads.

Just once. Just ONCE have the balls to say: “It’s not going as well as we expected. We screwed up.”

Hill60 on November 3, 2013 at 8:29 PM

From Rand Paul:

“My amendment says basically that everybody including Justice Roberts — who seems to be such a fan of Obamacare — gets it too. See, right now, Justice Roberts is still continuing to have federal employee health insurance subsidized by the taxpayer. And if he likes Obamacare so much, I’m going to give him an amendment that gives Obamacare to Justice Roberts.”

racquetballer on November 3, 2013 at 8:33 PM

The One’s daily job approval rating finally hitting 40?

In related news, the CDC reports fully 2 of every 5 Americans are comatose.

SoRight on November 3, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Remember, it was not only 7 million, but 7 million with 2.7 million young and healthy insured. The 2.7 was needed to make Obamacare econominically viable, and to get 2.7 healthies, it was figured that 7 million total was needed. Thus: 1) even if 7 million were to be reached the # of young and healthies will be much lower than 2.7 and therefore there will be economic failure, 2) in fact 7 million will not be reached and moreover healthies will be a lower percentage than hoped for; economic failure of Obamacare is assured. Nevertheless, the law as written will bail out insurance companies for at least three years by increasing debt and taxes.

Therefore Obama has completely abandoned “economically viable” as a goal. Now “success” is simply entrenching Obamacare into the system as much as possible; forget about the cost. Again, for at the next three years “if” (really “when”) healthcare is awash in red ink, there already is authorization to borrow and/or tax to pay for the failure.

G. Charles on November 3, 2013 at 9:02 PM

That this failure of a man still has a 40% approval rating sickens me. Wake up takers! When the money runs out you will be as screwed as the other 60%.

neyney on November 3, 2013 at 9:11 PM

The American of today, in fact, probably enjoys less personal liberty than any other man of Christendom, and even his political liberty is fast succumbing to the new dogma that certain theories of government are virtuous and lawful, and others abhorrent and felonious. Laws limiting the radius of his free activity multiply year by year: It is now practically impossible for him to exhibit anything describable as genuine individuality, either in action or in thought, without running afoul of some harsh and unintelligible penalty. It would surprise no impartial observer if the motto “In God we trust” were one day expunged from the coins of the republic by the Junkers at Washington, and the far more appropriate word, “verboten,” substituted. Nor would it astound any save the most romantic if, at the same time, the goddess of liberty were taken off the silver dollars to make room for a bas-relief of a policeman in a spiked helmet. Moreover, this gradual (and, of late, rapidly progressive) decay of freedom goes almost without challenge; the American has grown so accustomed to the denial of his constitutional rights and to the minute regulation of his conduct by swarms of spies, letter-openers, informers and agents provocateurs that he no longer makes any serious protest.

The American Credo: A Contribution toward the Interpretation of the National Mind (1920)

Quoting HL is always appropriate.

Kraken on November 3, 2013 at 9:14 PM

McAuliffe is heading for a strong victory in VA, the absolute kookiest of left-wing kooks is going to be elected NYC mayor, and Shrillery is going to be coronated in 2016. The peeps don’t care. They just don’t. It’s going to take some really bad shit doing down at the hands of the government before the peeps wake up. And maybe not even then.

Rational Thought on November 3, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Getting two million people kicked off their insurance plan is a good head start towards 7 million potential 404Care victims/customers. You can see why they look at this as a temporary PR issue and are unwilling to change the regulation causing the problem.

MTF on November 3, 2013 at 9:25 PM

So, how’s Julia getting along with her new plan?

HiJack on November 3, 2013 at 11:10 PM

It’s going to take some really bad shit doing down at the hands of the government before the peeps wake up. And maybe not even then.

Rational Thought on November 3, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Well, first of all they’re going to have to become racists and women-haters.

HiJack on November 3, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Juan Williams has staked his word on the fact we are fools and partisans for saying this Obamacare fiasco is a lie and for being skeptical the numbers won’t be reached.
Juan does not have a degree in economics like the other William, Walter Williams, does as well as myself. A shame. If he did he would understand that the static measure method of economic modeling does not include market choice. And the OBM uses it as a matter of administration, thus ensuring that its results are always wrong.

pat on November 3, 2013 at 11:31 PM

They don’t need 7 million signups because Obama is madder than anyone…

right2bright on November 3, 2013 at 11:45 PM

So, how’s Julia getting along with her new plan?

HiJack on November 3, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Julia is a hostess at a local restaurant, earning nearly $8 an hour. Her employer used to schedule Julia 30 hours a week, but when the ACA was signed, her hours dropped to 25 hours a week.

When Julia was working 30 hours a week, she figured that she’d only need around $100 a month in subsidies to purchase an insurance plan that would cover her and her young son. But the loss of those 5 hours a week, cost Julia $160 a month in lost wages – and the price of her insurance on the new Obamacare exchanges has gone up by another $90 a month. So instead of just needing a mere $100 in subsidies – our friend Julia now needs the taxpayer to fork over $350 a month in subsidies.

Julia doesn’t care. She’s covered – and that’s all that matters.
Thanks Obamacare!

Hill60 on November 4, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Isn’t it about time to lob some cruise missiles into Khartoum?
#wagthedog

juanito on November 4, 2013 at 1:22 AM

Just an estimate? These are the new classics in Marxist doublespeak.

I estimated that I would need well over a million to retire and live 30 years…but that was just an estimate and I’m doing fine on $12 a month…eating the bugs has kept my cholesterol down and walking 12 miles a day to collect firewood has toned my old body somewhat and…

Don L on November 4, 2013 at 3:29 AM

So, how’s Julia getting along with her new plan?

HiJack on November 3, 2013 at 11:10 PM

She’s doing fine. I saw her down on Main St the other night looking hot–miniskirt and fishnet stockings–great boobs, and she was very popular, talking to all these men that would pull up in their cars.

Don L on November 4, 2013 at 3:32 AM

Dan Pfeiffer is a liar and is a piece of s**t!

This slime ball will say anything to cover for his boss, including lie through his teeth that Obama is not accountable for the failure of the healthcare website!

Pfeiffer has lied before.

He lies now!

I would take anything this tool has to say with a grain of salt!

pilamaye on November 4, 2013 at 4:10 AM

Dan is a hack with a $12 haircut. If I’m gonna be screwed over, can’t they at least send out someone who lies better than this?

johnboy on November 4, 2013 at 5:36 AM

I’m not sure who’s dumber; those that voted for OBunglerCare thinking that it would be a good thing, or those who know it’s a complete pile of rancid garbage and won’t move Heaven and Earth to dismantel it, now?

Thomas More on November 4, 2013 at 6:49 AM

But seriously, if there are any software people left in the country currently not working on fixing this debacle, somebody may want to build us a database just to keep track of the number of different stories we’ve been told about this program from the original bill of sale to present.

Nah, this needs the software that intelligence critters use to try and isolate facts by looking at commonalities across a wide swath of data.

Happy Nomad on November 4, 2013 at 7:37 AM

Remember now, the ones who brought this mess to the country are the best and brightest among us. Who are we to be questioning their brilliance.

Kissmygrits on November 4, 2013 at 8:41 AM

This weekend, Hubby contacted the Obamacare helpline asking about removing our information from the website. Navigator/OFA volunteer/whoever is answering the helpline, said that they are getting many calls requesting that people’s information be deleted before it’s compromised… Apparently, a CGI rep will be calling us back in a couple of days.

Clusterf…

Fallon on November 4, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Obama will be down to Dentists Who Recommeng Sugary Gum territory when Obamacare starts nuking all of the grandfathered employer-provided plans next year.

Haiku Guy on November 4, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Walt dives into the crawlspace to retrieve the down payment for the disappearers. But it’s not all there.

Is Obama laughing hysterically yet?

Tsar of Earth on November 4, 2013 at 10:40 AM

As long as we all understand that none of this is Obama’s fault. It’s the government’s fault off which when things go poorly Obama has never been in. If and when something goes right again (killing Osama), Obama will be there to take all of the credit as he did it all by himself being so super smarty ans stuff.

jukin3 on November 4, 2013 at 10:53 AM

By the time Obamacare is done, abortion will be the only main street medical activity – everything else in the backstreet.

virgo on November 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM