Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on November 1, 2013 by Allahpundit

As he crisscrosses New Jersey in a final campaign push, Republican Gov. Chris Christie has made clear to donors, top supporters and the national GOP that he wants to do more than just notch a big re-election win next Tuesday.

He sees his campaign—and particularly his aggressive outreach to nontraditional GOP voters—as a national model for his party.

Racking up big margins among women and even winning outright among Hispanics, as polls suggest he may, would position him well in a 2016 Republican presidential field as the party continues to struggle elsewhere to widen its appeal…

“This is a model for the party in general,” said Bill Palatucci, Mr. Christie’s campaign chairman and a national GOP committeeman. “His message is that you can’t come to any community and ask for them to vote for you a month before the election.”

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Republican Gov. Chris Christie’s lead in the New Jersey gubernatorial race against Democratic state senator Barbara Buono has slimmed slightly, but he’s still ahead by 19 points, according to a new poll released Friday…

[T]he poll reveals that Christie is firmly holding the Republican vote, with 94 percent of Republicans saying they will vote for him. By contrast, only 76 percent of Democrats support Buono. Twenty-three percent of Democrats in the state intend to vote for Christie.

Christie is also holding a strong lead among independent voters, 80 percent of which say they will vote for Christie. Buono is currently carrying only 18 percent of independent likely voters, according to the poll.

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New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie says his greeting of President Barack Obama when the president arrived in Atlantic City to tour the devastation from Hurricane Sandy was not, as many have said, a “hug.”…

“It was a handshake like you would shake hands with anyone,” he said. “It was a perfectly natural, casual, normal type of greeting between two people. And you know, it’s become legend.”

Christie said the famed snapshot — showing the two leaders gripping hands and Obama with a hand on Christie’s shoulder — portrayed Christie’s bipartisan side, incited anger among some Republicans, and has been a constant source of questioning, even by those who haven’t seen the photo.

“If he deserved to be trashed, I would have, as I had many times before that,” he said. “But he didn’t deserve it.”

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To date, Christie has received the support of 25 prominent African-American elected officials and pastors from across New Jersey in addition to 52 Democratic politicos. One important reason given in testimony after testimony is Governor Christie’s support for school choice and The Opportunity Scholarship Act, which would have funded a pilot program offering state scholarships to low income students, allowing them to leave failing public schools. Democrats blocked the bill in the statehouse…

But there’s another more basic reason for Christie’s surprising African-American endorsements: he shows up. At town hall after town hall, Christie has come to inner city communities and answered questions directly, without pandering or prevaricating. Sadly, that itself is a lesson for Republicans, who too often avoid campaigning or appearing in inner-city neighborhoods, compounding their electoral disadvantage by apparent disinterest. As Mayor Michael Blunt of Chesilhurst, an African-American Democrat and Christie supporter explained to Josh Barro: “He talks to them. He makes them feel comfortable.”

Keep in mind that no New Jersey Republican has won more than 17 percent of the African-American vote in twenty years – and Christie won only 9 percent of the African-American vote when he first ran in 2009. He has more than tripled his support after four years in office, while Washington has only grown more bitterly polarized. And that’s because he’s reached out while also offering strong leadership, reminding Republicans that the two principles are not mutually exclusive.

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PPP’s newest national survey finds that in the wake of the shutdown, Republican voters now view Ted Cruz as their party’s leader. 21% picked Cruz to 17% for Chris Christie, and 15% for John Boehner. Cruz finished well ahead of the other GOP Senators we tested- Rand Paul got 9%, John McCain 7%, and Mitch McConnell only 4%. Mitt Romney at 8% and Sarah Palin at 4% were the other people we tested.

Numbers PPP will release next week show Ted Cruz would be an exceedingly weak Presidential candidate in the general election. The good news for the GOP is that even if the party base sees Cruz as their leader Democrats and independents actually see Chris Christie, who has far broader approval, as the leader of the Republican Party these days. With Democrats Christie gets 23% to 17% for Boehner and only 10% for Cruz. And with independents Christie gets 25% to 17% for Cruz and 10% for Boehner. Even if Republicans themselves see Cruz as their leader, they’re better off with everyone else seeing it as Christie.

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Here’s how one plugged-in Republican consultant responded when asked how we should rank the current 2016 field:

“Christie is in the 1 slot now and forevermore — he’s about to get huge margins in his historic reelection in a blue state –he’s the successful model for our Party (from a political perspective) and his governing success is exactly what our country needs from a fiscal perspective. He can compete in about 40 of 50 states. Who else can do that AND run as a conservative? No one.”

Christie is increasingly seen as the one candidate who might be able to bridge the divide between the establishment and the tea party that is in the process of ripping the party apart. In that way, Republicans are hoping that he can do for their side what Bill Clinton did in the early 1990s for a Democratic party that was similarly divided — heal what looks to be an un-healable wound through force of personality and a demonstrated record of success as a governor…

[T]here is a growing sense within the Republican political intelligentsia that Christie and only Christie is positioned to solve the major problems that will face the party in 2016. Because of that, we are moving the governor of New Jersey into the top slot in our rankings of the 10 candidates most likely to wind up as the Republican presidential nominee in three years time.

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In an excerpt from their new book Double Down: Game Change 2012, TIME’s Mark Halperin and New York’s John Heilemann look at Mitt Romney’s on-again, off-again flirtation with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to be his running-mate. Codenamed “Pufferfish,” in the aquatic-themed parlance of the campaign’s vetting team, Christie was a constant thorn in the side of the Romney campaign, going back to a 2011 demand that the eventual Republican nominee refrain from fundraising in the Garden State until Christie bestowed his endorsement. The New Jersey Governor’s tardiness to joint fundraising events peeved the punctual candidate, and Christie’s demand for lavish travel arrangements upset Romney’s staff. But Christie’s ability to passionately explain the candidate’s message to donors and voters made him a favorite for the spot, especially with Romney’s chief strategist Stuart Stevens.

The campaign passed over the potential 2016 candidate amid concerns about his ability to stand up to public scrutiny. The authors quote from the campaign’s secret vetting report on Christie, listing the red flags that kept him off the ticket and could keep him out of the White House, should he choose to run in 2016. The report noted that Christie had failed to fully explain a number of issues. These included information on an SEC settlement by the New Jersey governor’s brother, Todd, the terms of a defamation lawsuit settlement signed by Christie, information on Christie’s previous lobbying clients, medical records on his personal health and the citizenship status of Christie’s domestic employees. “If Christie’s possible selection is to move forward, these items should be obtained,” the document read.

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I asked what reporters and pundits and movement conservatives and liberals miss when they look at modern politics.

“I would say this: I think that people who observe what’s going on in New Jersey . . . many of them completely misevaluate what’s going on here in this election. They misunderstand what people want from someone in political life right now. I think [voters] want someone who’s going to solve their problems. And who’s gonna be practical. And who’s gonna listen to them. And who has a philosophy that they can live with—not that they [always] agree with. The only person that I agree with all the time is me. I don’t agree with anybody else all the time, and I think most people are like that.

“I think what [pundits] are missing here is everybody tries to kinda put everything in a little box . . . and I don’t think that’s what politics is. Politics is a feeling. It’s a visceral reaction to someone. Especially when you’re voting for an executive.

“So I think that everybody who tries to analyze this and put it into little boxes—which boxes does he check, which boxes doesn’t he check—I don’t think that’s the way people vote. And if that is the way people vote then no one’s going to be able to explain next Tuesday. No one will be able to explain it.”

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bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 5:11 AM

Remember what Thoreau said, In order to have good poets, you have to first have a good audience.

People have been conditioned to interpret reality different now. It’s not the message nor the messenger that is at fault; it’s the intellectual and philosophical environment. People, in particular the young, have had their entire philosophical basis upended.

We’d have more success getting people to question how they know things than actually trying to tell them what they should know.

That’s the problem with the Conservative message. We argue points as if they are interpreting those points on the same basis as we are. They are not. They never question their source of knowledge.

Cleombrotus on November 2, 2013 at 5:22 AM

Did Margaret Thatcher need to be a back-slapping schmoozer who “felt people’s pain” to win support and respect?

I get that Christie comes off as “cool” and comfortable with back-and-forth exchanges and can seem empathetic, but all that goes out the window, as far as half the country is concerned, when he is painted by Hillary as a crazy, far right threat to women and minorities and young people.

With Christie most people probably don’t know half the time how he’s going to come down on any given issue.

If anything Christie is more like Clinton than Reagan. Choosing someone like this means we have no faith in the appeal of our conservative principles. Is choosing someone who values winning over principles the only way we can win?

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 5:31 AM

That’s the problem with the Conservative message. We argue points as if they are interpreting those points on the same basis as we are. They are not. They never question their source of knowledge.
Cleombrotus on November 2, 2013 at 5:22 AM

That’s true.

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 5:31 AM

Did Margaret Thatcher need to be a back-slapping schmoozer who “felt people’s pain” to win support and respect?

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 5:31 AM

Do you know what “sometimes it’s good to take your foot off of the gas pedal” or “maybe you should consider switching to decaf” mean? Of two salespersons with the same product, one who has a pleasant personality and the other unpleasant, who would you predict to be more successful?

Do you believe that your social skills are above-, below-, or average? Do you believe that those who would rate your skills as below-average are wretched fools with no real point, who should be shunned?

Anti-Control on November 2, 2013 at 5:52 AM

I will never, ever vote for Christie. I am sure I am not the only conservative who is fed up with the GOP giving us the “electable” candidate who, lo and behold, NEVER gets elected. Give me another “unelectable” Reagan, and I’ll be happy.

Your way’s not working, GOP. Why not give my way a try? Or do you think losing by 4% is better than nothing? Losing is losing, where I come from.

Wino on November 2, 2013 at 5:56 AM

The last thing America needs is a blustery blowhard of a bully as president. One with flexible principles is far more deadly as we have seen. This man reeks of potential despot.

Don L on November 2, 2013 at 5:59 AM

Do you believe that your social skills are above-, below-, or average? Do you believe that those who would rate your skills as below-average are wretched fools with no real point, who should be shunned?
Anti-Control on November 2, 2013 at 5:52 AM

I think my social skills are better than yours. But I would never want to say that to insult you.

Do you know what “sometimes it’s good to take your foot off of the gas pedal” or “maybe you should consider switching to decaf” mean? Of two salespersons with the same product, one who has a pleasant personality and the other unpleasant, who would you predict to be more successful?

Rand and Cruz are both perfectly pleasant. Cruz may seem too intellectual and dignified for people who want their politicians to belch like them and act like brutish pigs, but I say to heck with those people. I’m not willing to surrender when it comes to getting a principled conservative. Both Rand and Cruz can also work a crowd.

John McCain was also seen as a pleasant, likable kind of guy who shied away from drawing strong ideological contrasts, and how did he work out as a nominee?

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 6:02 AM

I think my social skills are better than yours. But I would never want to say that to insult you.

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 6:02 AM

That’s not the question I asked you, is it? Why did you choose to sidestep it rather than answer it directly?

Anti-Control on November 2, 2013 at 6:05 AM

I-WILL-NEVER-VOTE-FOR-THIS-BLOW-HARD-

TX-96 on November 2, 2013 at 6:07 AM

Is choosing someone who values winning over principles the only way we can win?

bluegill

According to some here, yes. And then, somehow, if we elect folks who are okay with liberal ideas like Christie, as if by magic, they will suddenly govern as conservatives, lol.

I really doubt whether he actually, deep down, opposes the ideology behind Obamacare at all.

bluegill

And you would be right. It’s why he answered the question the way he did as you outlined above, and it’s why he refused to join the other 27 or so states in the lawsuit against Obamacare, even though it wouldn’t have cost his state a dime. It’s why he supports amnesty, gun control, gay marriage, climate change, and numerous other liberal ideas, but hey, he can win apparently, and that’s all that matters.

Some victory isn’t it, lol?

xblade on November 2, 2013 at 6:10 AM

The last thing America needs is a blustery blowhard of a bully as president. One with flexible principles is far more deadly as we have seen. This man reeks of potential despot.
Don L on November 2, 2013 at 5:59 AM

If Christie hadn’t yelled at those people at town hall meetings and gotten recorded doing it, and if he wasn’t so fat and willing to joke about himself in a self-deprecating way that appeals to many people on a personal level, would we even be talking about this guy now?

Is this because of the support he has gotten from New Jersey Democrats? Hello, he practically made out with Obama on the beach after the storm. I think that has a little something to do with Democrats seeing him as “their kind” of Republican.

Why don’t we nominate Mike Bloomberg? He has an “R” next to his name and got lots of Dems to vote for him. Maybe if Bloomberg were fatter and had a warmer, more magnetic personality, some people would be talking him up as “the only one who can win.”

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 6:11 AM

For me this all comes down to amnesty. I really believe that Christie would sign off on some kind of “comprehensive immigration plan” that includes amnesty, just as sure as I’m typing this comment out on my phone right now.

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 6:15 AM

Losing is losing, where I come from.

Wino

And even if he did “win”, winning with our own democrat ain’t exactly winning either. In no way whatsoever is electing a guy who said he agrees with Corzine(think it was Corzine-some big lib whoever it was) on 90% of the issues any kind of win for republicans or conservatives. Heck, we may as well elect Hillary if that’s the case, because I’m sure she agrees with Corzine on 90% of the issues too.

xblade on November 2, 2013 at 6:20 AM

Another thing that sets Christie apart is his informality. People are sometimes surprised to hear a governor speak so bluntly and informally in a “take me or leave me” sort of way. There’s little more to him than that. Is that enough? Would that motivate enough of those voters who sat out 2008 to decide to vote for him in 2012? Anyway, he’s a progressive Republican who got elected in a blue state. Not like that hasn’t happened before.

So, basically, some people say we can only win with an informal (and I would say non-presidential) loudmouth who refuses to draw strong ideological contrasts and who seems more concerned about what members of the other party think of him than he cares what the conservative base thinks or wants.

Did Obama win by being more like Republicans or conservatives? Why are we accepting the lie that our nominee should be more like a Democrat?

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 6:30 AM

bluegill, did you miss my post to you @6:05? Here, I broke things down a little for you, because you seem to need the help! :)

Question 1) do you believe that your social skills are above-, below-, or average?

Question 2) do you believe that those who would rate your skills as below-average are wretched fools with no real point, who deserve to be insulted & shunned?

Question 3) do you believe that people who avoid directly answering questions when they are aware the honest answers would put them in a less-than-flattering light are displaying bravery & acting honorably by their avoidance?

Anti-Control on November 2, 2013 at 6:42 AM

Question 1) do you believe that your social skills are above-, below-, or average?

Way above.

Question 2) do you believe that those who would rate your skills as below-average are wretched fools with no real point, who deserve to be insulted & shunned?

I think their judgement of others’ social skills is lacking. I might avoid them, but I wouldn’t necessarily insult them. A lot of the time, though, I might just ignore what ignorant people think of me. I know myself, and that’s all that matters! :-)

Look, I hate put-on charm. I think it’s dishonest and fake. I think it’s liberating to not have to always try to make people like you.

Question 3) do you believe that people who avoid directly answering questions when they are aware the honest answers would put them in a less-than-flattering light are displaying bravery & acting honorably by their avoidance?

If I knew for absolute certain that was the reason they chose not to answer, then I might feel sympathy for them and would understand why they wouldn’t want to be seen in an unflattering light. Why would I want to make them answer a question like that, other than to try to make them uncomfortable?

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 6:50 AM

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 6:15 AM

romney would have done the same thing, so whats your point?

renalin on November 2, 2013 at 7:06 AM

Way above.

T/y for answering! LOL :)

I think their judgement of others’ social skills is lacking.

You said before that you believe you possess better social skills than I. What’s your basis for that?

Do you see people at HA expressing the same negativity towards me as they do towards you? Presuming I know you’re answer, do you believe I am not as “authentic” as you because I don’t apparently p!ss people off here as much as you do?

Here’s another question I asked you before that you did not directly answer: of two salespersons with the same product, one who has a pleasant personality and the other unpleasant, who would you predict to be more successful?

If I knew for absolute certain that was the reason they chose not to answer, then I might feel sympathy for them and would understand why they wouldn’t want to be seen in an unflattering light. Why would I want to make them answer a question like that, other than to try to make them uncomfortable?

bluegill on November 2, 2013 at 6:50 AM

That’s an interesting choice of words you used there – my experience with you tells me you couldn’t care less why I say that! :)

Anti-Control on November 2, 2013 at 7:07 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Trolls.
O

ur Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

– John Adams

My take: “America’s Culture War: Of Pedophilia and “Gay” Apparel”

kingsjester on November 2, 2013 at 9:14 AM

…oh gawd…she left for three hours?…and swam back?

KOOLAID2 on November 2, 2013 at 9:41 AM

KOOLAID2 on November 2, 2013 at 9:41 AM

LOL!

kingsjester on November 2, 2013 at 9:42 AM

My take: “America’s Culture War: Of Pedophilia and “Gay” Apparel”

kingsjester on November 2, 2013 at 9:14 AM

…Good Morning!

KOOLAID2 on November 2, 2013 at 9:42 AM

KOOLAID2 on November 2, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Good Morning!

I know that I have written a “good one” Trolls are attacking me on Sen. Ted Cruz’s FB Page. LOL!

kingsjester on November 2, 2013 at 9:47 AM

KJ, so you believe homo’s should be re-classified
as sexual deviants?

bazil9 on November 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM

bazil9 on November 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM

As I am aware of your orientation, and have a niece who shares it, I believe that the jury is still out as to nuture or nature. I had a friend who was a beaten wife, who was “taken in” by several young women who paid attention to her, and, subsequently, she changed her sexual orientation.

My niece, who has had issues after my father suddenly passed, when she was young, after spending the week before Christmas at her house seeks attention from whomever is near, and the girls in school were nicer to her than the boys were.

In that homosexuality is a deviation for the sexual behavior of over 95& of the population, yes, scientifically it is a deviant sexual behavior.

And, I believe that it is a sin, just like heterosexual extramarital sex.

Do I love the sinner, but hate the sin? Absolutely.

Am I a sinner? Absolutely.

The great think about being a Christian, though, is that I don’t have to be perfect. Just forgiven.

kingsjester on November 2, 2013 at 10:07 AM

“This is a model for the party in general”

Yes it is, unfortunately, it is the model for the democrat party. Christie is 99% democrat at this point, and within days of his re-election, he plans to make the transition complete, and officially switch parties. Christie is very likely to be the democrat nominee in 2016.

Pork-Chop on November 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM

kingsjester on November 2, 2013 at 10:07 AM

+100

Murphy9 on November 2, 2013 at 10:41 AM

new from the apachewhoknows odd thinking thing

“live free by lies”

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 2, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Sorry G2M I went to bed because it was late. Bottom line for me is I REFUSE to vote for any more RINOs and Christie is one of the biggest. If you put him up against any Dem in 2016 he WILL lose. I’d rather not be part of more GOPe exercises in futility. Lets put up Cruz and see how it goes. He has 3 years to make his case. He was right about Obamacare and with every day that passes more people are seeing this. 2013 isn’t 2016 and a lot can happen in 3 years. Christie is a squish and he’s had ample time to prove he isn’t. He just keeps getting more RINOesque, not less. The GOP should be worried because there are lots of folks like me pragmatic not idealistic voters who they are losing.

neyney on November 2, 2013 at 11:14 AM

KJ, so you believe homo’s should be re-classified
as sexual deviants?

bazil9 on November 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Not directed at me, but, No.

Bmore on November 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Values like McCain personality like an uncouth loud jerk.

I’ll pass thank you.

Rio2010 on November 2, 2013 at 11:25 AM

kingsjester on November 2, 2013 at 10:07 AM

.
Not only is it ” deviant” – its not that frickin special either……just because you can tolerate someone violating your anatomically purposed excremetory system, You have a special gift our something? its like all these light in the loafer guys think their Navin Johnson or something…..
Look at the guy in London who recently got his wanger stuck in a toaster….bfd…..
.
So why all the parades?
I just don’t get it.

FlaMurph on November 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM

One of us here is conflating two separate issues. Perhaps its me.

Bmore on November 2, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Worth reposting….

http://conservativenewjersey.com/chris-christie-a-conservative-myth-part-7

TxAnn56 on November 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM

bluefox on November 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM

KJ, so you believe homo’s should be re-classified
as sexual deviants?

bazil9 on November 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Not directed at me, but, No.

Bmore on November 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM

…double the No’s!

KOOLAID2 on November 2, 2013 at 11:49 AM

neyney on November 2, 2013 at 11:14 AM

stop it …please just STOP IT…
i do not not not not not want the fat man…
just because you keep saying so…does not make it true…

but if you get to that november day and its him or hillary
then you have to tell me why you chose hillary…

Mitt wasnt my guy either…but dont you think we would be
just a tiny bit better with Mitt than BHO….

the way to get sround your problem is clear to me…
we must show up with our wallets out and ready to work hard to make sure
on that november day that the fat man wont be on the ticket…
he’ll be at the boat and rv show…

millions said just what your saying about Mitt….how did that work out for us…they stayed home because Mitt had a different opinion on Abortion or Religion or whatever your topic is…
as i have stated clearly Mitt was not my guy…
but he would have been a damn site better than BHO had been of that i am sure…

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Why do I get the feeling that AP gets a tingle up his leg just writing about Christie?

fight like a girl on November 2, 2013 at 1:01 PM

neyney on November 2, 2013 at 11:14 AM

its a numbers and money game…
and according to your view…you dont care that the numbers say no to you…so your going to stay home…
that makes you..in my opinion..part of the problem…not the solution…
you will give away your only play in the game for your own personal pride or opinion…
and forefit the game to the socalist because you dont like the choices…
the answer is…
make sure the fat man never hits the november ballot…
that is the solution….simple…
and i will try and do the same….
tell as many ppl as you can your problem with the fat man
contribute your money to non-fatman campagins…
work the streets for non fatman candidates…
MAKE SURE the fat man is NOT on the november ballot…
got it…
its really quite simple to understand…

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 1:03 PM

and befor you try and run mr Cruz up the flagpole
can we just find out a few little points..
whats he think about Abortion…taxes…gay rights…the DEA…
the NEA…the russians/chineese….any solutions for the middle east….Iran??..the Jewish vote..what his jobs plan…how is he on fiscal matters…
whats his record….what bills did he sponser…get passed…
who is giving him money (who does he owe)…how about the EPA…
the NRA…does he have a global warming problem??…has he ever beat his wife or children ??…mailed out any sick selfies??..
can he get proper funding (hillary will raise more than a trillion)
can he eviserate her on Benghazi…will he prosicute the BHO ppl for things like the IRS or gunrunning..whats his wiews on the feds..the IRS ..??…i could go on for another hour i bet…
the point is…we run em up the pole so fast we really dont know
who the man is…think Perry…the man couldnt string together two sentences….but up the flagpole we pushed him….
when you attempt to pureify the party for every one you throw out of the boat you must put in another one in replace his vote…
and then cover the 5-10 million votes we are allready short for our guy to be CiC…

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 1:18 PM

kingsjester on November 2, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Excellent. I found that to be quite uplifting.

Mirimichi on November 2, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Just my 2 cents. The RNC/GOP et al, along with the DNC/DEM et al, always select an either or Candidate. Then they both work against any R or D Candidate that may run to make sure only “their” Candidate is standing. So we get to vote for the “either or”.

Our job if we are up to it, is to select our own Candidate. However, to do that, we need to be organized and in agreement.

By the looks of this thread and others, that will take a miracle:-)

bluefox on November 2, 2013 at 1:27 PM

I won’t vote for Chris Krispy. He simply doesn’t represent my interests anymore than a Democrat. For example, he believes in climate change. Would he sign a cap and tax scheme into law? I believe he would. Would that hurt me? Yes, yes it would. So he is no different than the Democrats on so many issues. Who cares who signs the law, an R or a D, if the law is bad and hurts the people? What makes Christy different from the Democrats?

magicbeans on November 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM

where was the great ‘limited government’ guy in 2012..??
Romney. Gingrich, Santorum and Paul,,,,
any brilliant conservitive minds there??
a RR in the bunch??…
my point is still the same…we are short numbers…
and i can tell this doesnt make you happy…nor me…
if you cleanse the right…keep in mind we are allready short warm bodies….
if you throw out everyone you dont deem as acceptable…
you will find that true limited government types make up
maybe 20 million americans…thats not enough to even think about CiC levels…it is going to take 60 million votes to beat Hillary
and at least a trillion dollars…
ohh.. and 40 more million votes were going to mystically find…
the reason BHO won wasnt because Mitt was or was not this or that..
he won because more ppl that want socalism showed up…
and your not going to win back those LIVs…ever…
so we have to look at the other side of the vote…
the ones “that stayed home”….to make a point…
wow…such a point….are you thrilled with your point to the RINOs..
do you really think somewhere RINOs are concerned with you not showing up??…BHO was thrilled you didnt show up…
after all you had a point to make…
and we suffer everytime half the public stays home to make a point..its a expensive point you are making…a price thats too high for me…i will go down using the only weapon i have…a vote…..one……

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 1:34 PM

magicbeans on November 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM

so you are saying Hillary represenst your interests …
and then give nancy puglosie back the gavel…

“Our job if we are up to it, is to select our own Candidate. However, to do that, we need to be organized and in agreement.”
bluefox on November 2, 2013 at 1:27 PM

this is what i am saying…tyvm bluefox….
we need to make sure the fat man…isnt on the november ballot..

but be careful in the clensing…remember we need warm bodies..
were not long on votes…were short..

thats not my idea…its reality

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM

the time to cry about ‘staying home’ isnt november….

take care of that early…

when they cried about Mitt in november because
‘hes not the prefered religion’ or ‘his gay rights position isnt mine’

that crying gave us BHO….
so thank all you stay at homeers…
i just will never believe Mitt was worse than BHO
but if you can point out to me where BHO is better …i’ll listen
if Mitt adn BHO both showed up on your door step
to take your daughter to the prom…
one of them get to take her….she is going…
if you choose (vote) for one…then at the least your thoughts were heard…if you dont vote and the VH1 crowd picks her date..
it shouldnt surprise you BHO is taking your daughter to the prom..

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 1:48 PM

if you do not vote…you have no say in the outcome…

if you do not hold your nose at times..

Hillary will be taking your daughter to the prom…

if you wrote down your top twenty topics your candidate must have in order….your list would be different than almost everyone elses..as would mine….your number one point might be someone elses number 5 point….so he should stay home and not vote…???
maybe abortion is your number one topic..
anyone who wont outlaw it is unexceptable…
and if squish candidate A is Squishy on it..you stay home…
your other 19 topics now have no value…no worth…
and Hillary will be taking your daughter to the prom…

your vote is your only legal weapon in this game….
do not throw it away or take it lightly…
brave men and women died to give you that right…
if for no other reason…honor them by voting…

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 1:57 PM

i’ll stop ranting now….
i hope my point is a tad clearer..

recap…no no no on the fatman,,,

and vote …you get one vote….use it…

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 2:03 PM

i’ll stop ranting now….
i hope my point is a tad clearer..

recap…no no no on the fatman,,,

and vote …you get one vote….use it…

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Passion is good going2mars!! Levin has it, Rush has it and many others. I agree with you and have read most of your comments. Staying home is never an option. The last time I voted in my local election there was only ONE issue on my ballot!!! I’ve always taken the position, if there isn’t anything to vote FOR, there are always issues to vote AGAINST!

brave men and women died to give you that right…
if for no other reason…honor them by voting…

Always worth remembering. I declined a good job several years ago, because they said they had the right to search my car and take me from my work station for a random drug test. Told them too many Americans died for my freedom and I would never voluntarily give it up.

I understand it’s about numbers & agree about working for a good Candidate. Word of mouth is good, whether for local, State or Federal Issues. Many don’t pay attention and need we who do to enlighten them.

One thing we need to keep in mind is that the R’s would rather have a Dem they can work with anytime over a Tea Party or Conservative Candidate. They are making it more and more evident who they really are. They forget the Tea Party Organizations are AMERICANS. So they are against us & that’s clear enough.

When the RNC/RNSC and others, along with the DEMS are against us, that’s a high mountain to climb, but it’s the one we must climb.

bluefox on November 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

bluefox on November 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

i waited for over an hour for someone to come by and tell me that voting AGAINST Hillary was a bad idea…

the woman is pure evil….
and we should all vote against evil at all costs..
maybe our side will have a squishy guy on 17 of 20 topics…
Hillary is evil 20 for 20….
in my book…give me squishy befor Hillary gives me death,,,

squishy is still NOT my first or second or third choice to be very clear…

sometimes reality isnt what we want it to be…it is..what it is..

ty for your reply

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 3:33 PM

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 3:33 PM

I agree on Hillary. We know that many Voters vote out of ignorance and that’s a hugh problem. However, I see that many that we would consider educated on the issues are out of step. When I consider a Candidate, I have to list the pros & cons with as much info that I can gather. That’s the only way to make a good decision imo.

Getting tangled up and majoring in minors gets people off track.

Perhaps making sure voters consider all of the facts about a Candidate, rather than just one or two issues is needed.

Well, I have a list of articles/podcasts to read & the Platform of the Libertarian Party.

Later:-)

bluefox on November 2, 2013 at 4:08 PM

bluefox on November 2, 2013 at 4:08 PM

thank you also for your passion…
and all your great points…
enjoy your reading/listening…caio

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM

going2mars on November 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Same here! Always nice to discuss different points of view. Appreciated your take on the reality of what we face, especially working for our Candidate(s) of choice and against what the Parties want.

bluefox on November 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM

KJ, thx for your polite reply.
Can’t say I agree with you..burned out on this topic
, didnt want a debate but to
understand your POV.

Thanks to you guys too- Bmore and KA2.

bazil9 on November 2, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Why do I get the feeling that AP gets a tingle up his leg just writing about Christie?

fight like a girl on November 2, 2013 at 1:01 PM

mmmm…probably: Because he Does!

williamg on November 2, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Well, someone at Hotair gets a tingle somewhere because the buffoon Christie gets lots of press on this sight.

mobydutch on November 2, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Christy was discovered to be not too clean when a committee was vetting him to be the VP for Romney. I’m sure if he broke wind in the woods the left would be all over him from the get-go. America needs to think about how the media is controlled by the White House by both parties. Much of the media is funded by the government as part of the Arts and the elite fawn on the power that feeds them.

mixplix on November 3, 2013 at 5:08 PM

You missed this one:

I find it hysterical that Romney’s campaign gave Christie the code name “PUFFERFISH” when they were vetting vice presidential candidates. Christie is an [insert sentence enhancer]. He is an obese [insert sentence enhancer]. He blusters about unions and cutting spending, but it is a BS storyline. He kissed Obama’s bony [butt] for his Sandy relief and then spent it on campaign commercials. He loves photo ops, as long as the camera has a wide angle lens. His idea of consensus is to spend more of your money. His annual budget has more spending than Corzine’s last budget. He is positioning himself as the moderate Republican candidate in 2016. He kisses the [butts] of Democrats on social and spending issues, while acting like a neo-con on foreign affairs issues. The worst of both worlds wrapped in bacon. He would be a disaster as president. He is in the back pocket of Wall Street and they must have really big pockets to fit Pufferfish in there.
[...]
File this story away for the run up to 2016 where the Karl Rove-led consultant class [and HotAir] will tell us that Christie’s the only one who can win. Just like they told us McCain and Romney were the only ones who could win.

Why am I not surprised that AP is gushing all over yet another warmonger police statist prog in a red jersey? Looks like the neo-Trotskyite GOP establishment has their candidate.

Open wide, conservatives, real wide, because Christie Cream is being shoved down your throats and will be your ’16 nominee. And you can take that to the “TBTF” bank.

Rae on November 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM

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