Breaking: Multiple people shot at security checkpoint at LAX; Update: One dead; Update: Photo of weapon; Update: Gunman identified

posted at 1:21 pm on November 1, 2013 by Allahpundit

The cable news nets are all over it as I write this. Early details:

A gunman opened fire at a security checkpoint Friday morning at Los Angeles International Airport, injuring a Transportation Security Administration employee and prompting a terminal evacuation.

A TSA spokesperson told NBC4 the shooting occurred at a security checkpoint. A traveler told NBC4 she heard gunfire in Tom Bradley Terminal, where she was preparing to board a flight to Mexico aboard Virgin America.

A medical triage area was established outside the terminal…

Details regarding the status of the gunman were not immediately available. Pugh told NBC4 he believes the gunman was in custody.

Fox News aired video at around 1 p.m. ET of a TSA officer, with blood on one of his hands, walking with a cop in armor. He had to sit down next to an overpass wall but the fact that he was on his feet initially is, I take it, a good sign.

Two of the “Mythbusters” guys were there when it all went down:

If it really was a rifle instead of a handgun, then I assume it was pre-planned rather than a confrontation that got out of hand when a concealed weapon was discovered by security. Just a hunch, though. Stand by for updates.

Update: I don’t think I’ve ever blogged a story about a mass shooting that didn’t include, at some point, a report that there’s more than one suspect. So, grain of salt on this, but here’s something from CBS LA:

Same guy says there are four wounded.

Update: “Pre-planned” hunch looking stronger:

Update: “Preliminary indications show that the suspect(s) was targeting TSA employees, according to Miller.”

Update: A little more from NBC LA.

Initial reports indicated that a gunman approached a document checker, then pulled a firearm and fired one shot at the security officer, according to NBC’s Pete Williams.

Pugh told NBC4 he believes the gunman was in custody, but authorities have not confirmed details.

“He ran across the tarmac to get away and was put on ground and cuffed,” Pugh said.

That makes it sound like the weapon was concealed. There are some reports on Twitter that he used not a rifle but a shotgun, which would be easier to conceal. On the other hand, CNN says that “multiple” shots were fired in “rapid succession.” Nothing certain yet.

Update: Okay, gun experts. What is it?

Update: A source tells CNN that the suspect is indeed in custody, and that he was shot.

Update: Awful news from Pete Williams: A TSA agent who was shot has died.

Update: Here’s a better look at the weapon. The LAPD will hold a presser at 2:30 ET, but in the meantime they say that one suspect is in custody. I haven’t heard anything about a manhunt for another so maybe the initial report about two suspects was — surprise — wrong.

Update: Workplace violence?

Update: Not workplace violence?

Update: NBC says it knows who the gunman is and that he may have been motivated by “anti-government views” based on written material he was carrying. What that means exactly, I don’t know, but the left has been waiting two and a half years, since the story behind the Tucson shooting fell apart on them, to try its “conservatism equals murderous insanity” narrative again. We’ll see what the “materials” say.

The gunman, identified by law-enforcement officials as 23-year-old Paul Anthony Ciancia, was shot by law enforcement and taken into custody in critical condition. The motive is not clear but it’s believed he had anti-government views based on written materials he was carrying, the officials said.

Federal officials told NBC News it was unclear whether Ciancia was targeting the TSA or was trying to shoot his way through to get further into the airport. But one witness said the shooter, who calmly walking through the terminal with his weapon, approached him with a one-word question.

“All he said was, ‘TSA?’ Just like that,” Leon Saryan told MSNBC.

Update: The AP says Ciancia had a note stating that he wanted to “kill TSA and pigs,” but that’s all they have right now.


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Local LA news saying that this was probably a rifle because a shotgun would have caused bigger injuries

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Depends on the style of shotgun and whether it is a sawn-off shotgun.

Steve Eggleston on November 1, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Yes, of course. But unless it was a Tactical Black Hawk Spec. Ops, something similar, or sawed off, then it was rather silly for the beta male to write.

CTSherman on November 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Update: Here’s a better look at the weapon.

Take back my shotgun theory now, that is a rifle of some kind. I don’t think its an AR, maybe even be a carbine of some kind (barrel looks a bit short to me for some reason, though that may be just due to the image itself.)

Gatsu on November 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Obviously we should ban all guns now!!

mrscullen on November 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Wait… you mean the gun-free-est, gun-free zone, in the gun-free-est state; with some of the most gun restrictions in the US? That LAX? Say it isn’t so!

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on November 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM

New picture does look like a rifle with a magazine laying nearby.

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM

I’m betting the bullets were made of, omg, lead, too, in spite of recent law.

ProfShadow on November 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Okay, gun experts. What is it?

I think it’s a Daisy 4841 Mossy Oak Grizzly.

NotCoach on November 1, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Magazine doesn’t look like 10 rounder, could be a 10/30 magazine tho

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:04 PM

It looks to be an AR15 style rifle, but impossible to tell much more from that photo. Caliber could be anything from .22 up. The magazine looks larger than CA 10-cartrige max, possibly a 20 or 30.

peski on November 1, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Obviously we should ban all guns now!!

mrscullen on November 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Well, T.S.A. agents, since one of them is alleged to be the shooter.

ProfShadow on November 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I say it’s a Saiga shotgun…

PatriotRider on November 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM

How about holding off on the lead-free ammo and gun-free zone jokes for a while huh? At least one person is dead.

Smoochy32 on November 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Did he get through the checkpoints?

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

I don’t see a pistol grip, anyone else?

dforston on November 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Kind looks like a Ruger SR 22 rifle?

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

How does one even get into the airport with a long gun anyway?

jawkneemusic on November 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

avid Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 9m

Website, not so much RT @edhenryTV Jay Carney says President has been briefed on shooting at #LAX

davidk on November 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

I know, Steve, you prefaced things with “hunting.”

I just hoped that one of the MSM types would read my post, and start talking, expertly, about the shot-grip pistol that was used.

OhEssYouCowboys on November 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Oops, that was directed at CTSherman’s comment, not yours, Steve. My apologies.

OhEssYouCowboys on November 1, 2013 at 2:08 PM

On the personal side, this is very sad. I have no love for TSA, but the individual who was killed is just one more person trying to eke out a life on whatever job he/she could find. I feel for their loved ones.

On the political side, turn your eyes on congress. Is this the distraction that will allow them to pass amnesty for ILLEGALS while we are not looking? No, they are not “undocumented”, and they are not “new citizens”.

bigbeachbird on November 1, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Workplace violence, it sounds like. But the guy was white, so the media will spin it as a young tea partier.

Jack_Burton on November 1, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Looks like a lone nutcase, over quickly…

But Shemp Smith and Faux (and the LAPD) are trying to turn this into another thing the magnitude of 9/11, and the Boston Marathon, added together.

No carrion, dead or alive, and the left have their meme.

Media, suffocate, most all of you.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Not a shotgun. There’s a mag lying next to it. Appears to be a deadly 30 round assault magazine clip bullet holder.

BobMbx on November 1, 2013 at 2:09 PM

The magazine lying next to the rifle is definitely about 30-round size.

peski on November 1, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Yep. I think the movie called it a Glock 9 tho

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Actually, McClane called it a Glock 7 and said it was a porcelain gun made in Germany(and cost more than Dennis Franz made in a month). Apparently the gun expert they consulted with for the movie told them that was complete nonsense and begged them not to use that dialogue.

Doughboy on November 1, 2013 at 2:09 PM

But I don’t think the SR22 has a magazine like that, so probably not it……

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Actually, McClane called it a Glock 7 and said it was a porcelain gun made in Germany(and cost more than Dennis Franz made in a month). Apparently the gun expert they consulted with for the movie told them that was complete nonsense and begged them not to use that dialogue.

Doughboy on November 1, 2013 at 2:09 PM

lol. I knew it was a glock single digit.

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:10 PM

How about holding off on the lead-free ammo and gun-free zone jokes for a while huh? At least one person is dead.

Smoochy32 on November 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

How about you go visit nancy.com.

davidk on November 1, 2013 at 2:10 PM

If this is a disgruntled worker, the drive-bys will quickly lose interest. That’s not political enough for them. Not to mention the body count is low and there are no dead kids.

Doughboy on November 1, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Fox News reporting “Obama being briefed on shooting at LAX”.

But nobody briefed him on healthcare.gov website launch.

Riggghhhtt.

fogw on November 1, 2013 at 2:10 PM

CBS reporting the suspect is an off-duty TSA agent.

https://twitter.com/CharlieKayeCBS/status/396336247599157248

NoVAHockey on November 1, 2013 at 2:10 PM

BREAKING. Law enforcement source tells @CBSNews the LAX shooter was an off-duty TSA agent.

— Charlie Kaye (@CharlieKayeCBS) November 1, 2013

Resist We Much on November 1, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Looks like an AR-style stock. Can’t tell if the part protruding down is a pistol grip or a magazine. Probably a pistol grip, with the magazine ejected next to the rifle.

peski on November 1, 2013 at 2:11 PM

KFI LA AM Radio reporting that security at Bob Hope Airport / Burbank has been stepped up….

Athos on November 1, 2013 at 2:11 PM

If only we had a federal agency to provide security at airports, this could have all been prevented…

Shump on November 1, 2013 at 2:11 PM

For those talking about a magazine it’s too early to tell. That’s definitely a rifle, but less certain that is a magazine next to it.

NotCoach on November 1, 2013 at 2:11 PM

The magazine lying next to the rifle is definitely about 30-round size.

peski on November 1, 2013 at 2:09 PM

30 round magazines are banned in CA, but we have 10 round magazines with 30 round magazine bodies, so could still be legal for CA. Don’t know yet.

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Charlie Kaye ✔ @CharlieKayeCBS

BREAKING. Law enforcement source tells @CBSNews the LAX shooter was an off-duty TSA agent.
11:59 AM – 1 Nov 2013

Solaratov on November 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Ar Variant or possible a Mini 14 type, something like that from the picture.

Johnnyreb on November 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM

So those gun free zone signs are really doing a lot of good aren’t they.

crosshugger on November 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Website, not so much RT @edhenryTV Jay Carney says President has been briefed on shooting at #LAX

and we know how the Benghazi briefing turned out.

hillsoftx on November 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM

I bet it was a Kalashniglock.

OhEssYouCowboys on November 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Charlie Kaye ✔ @CharlieKayeCBS

BREAKING. Law enforcement source tells @CBSNews the LAX shooter was an off-duty TSA agent.
11:59 AM – 1 Nov 2013

Interesting, and a bit of relief.

hillsoftx on November 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Shep’s giddy like a fat kid in Baskin Robbins, gets to use all his new toys.

Erich66 on November 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Ar Variant or possible a Mini 14 type, something like that from the picture.

Johnnyreb on November 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Could be.

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Anyone else counting?

I’ve got Shep having seven orgasms since he came on the air.

Please can this putz.

fogw on November 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM

mankai on November 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM

In Fayetteville, 4 shot, two dead, a man and a woman. It was definitely a “gentleman’s club” and not a strip club because one of the gunman was heard to say, “Pardon me, my brother, but if you insist in carrying on with your disgusting urban language, I will be forced to pop a cap in your ass.”

mankai = fellow tarheel

BigAlSouth on November 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM

LAX Terminal 3 houses Allegiant Air, Frontier, JetBlue, Spirit and Virgin America…

Athos on November 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM

“That magazine next to the rifle could hold 100 rounds” -LA Fox news anchor

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM

30 round magazines are banned in CA, but we have 10 round magazines with 30 round magazine bodies, so could still be legal for CA. Don’t know yet.

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:11 PM

You are of course correct. I’m just trying to describe accurately what’s visible – not claiming any facts.

peski on November 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM

CBS reporting the suspect is an off-duty TSA agent.

https://twitter.com/CharlieKayeCBS/status/396336247599157248

NoVAHockey on November 1, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Oh poo, blue on blue. They are nasty and very, very personal.

Johnnyreb on November 1, 2013 at 2:15 PM

the suspect is an off-duty TSA agent.

Damn.

/MSM

mankai on November 1, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Gunman killed.

davidk on November 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM

mankai = fellow tarheel

BigAlSouth on November 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Indeed… but I always add that I’m a confirmed Wolfpacker in the tarheel state.

;)

mankai on November 1, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Tom Winter ‏@Tom_Winter 46m

From a TSA spokesperson, the shooting at LAX took place where the documents are taken (your ID and boarding pass).

davidk on November 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM

ELF again?

Mr. Arrogant on November 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM

TSA on TSA violence…wonder what could have brought that on???…

PatriotRider on November 1, 2013 at 2:19 PM

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Die Hard 2′s Glock 7

Chris of Rights on November 1, 2013 at 2:19 PM

mankai on November 1, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Theres still hope. The ethnicity of the deceased hasn’t been released yet….

BobMbx on November 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

The suspect himself is a TSA agent, or WAS a TSA agent not long ago…

Schadenfreude pure at all the fools who assumed it was a TEA party or other conservative guy.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Workplace violence?

BREAKING: Gunman described as young, white male.

Obviously a response to GOP racist dog whistles.

mankai on November 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Gunman killed by LEO.

davidk on November 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

It looks to be a Mimi-14 (or 30) with a folding stock installed.

redhead on November 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

From the photo showing it with the magazine next to it, I’d say it’s a carbine-type civilian AR-15 due to the short handguard and long barrel extending ahead of same, plus the retracting-type stock. Also appears to have a forward bolt assist and no carry handle (“flattop” type). To judge from the magazine, probably .223 caliber rather than 7.62K or a pistol-caliber version (9mm or .45).

That’s all I have to say, because it’s all I can see in the photo.

clear ether

eon

eon on November 1, 2013 at 2:21 PM

LA Times Twitter feed:
Andrew Blankstein @anblanx
Gunman who opened fire at LAX has been killed by law enforcement, according to multiple sources.
3 minutes ago

workingclass artist on November 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM

So, it’s okay to describe the race of alleged perps now, right?

BKeyser on November 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Come on Dems, let’s have hearings on dismantling TSA. They’re a bunch of crazy gun toting nutballs.

fogw on November 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM

At least he wasn’t a “White Hispanic”.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM

“That magazine next to the rifle could hold 100 rounds” -LA Fox news anchor

El_Terrible on November 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM

And an LA news anchor could sub for George of the Jungle, too.

clear ether

eon

eon on November 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Sophie and Bmore, for you.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM

At least he wasn’t a “White Hispanic”.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Are you sure? I was just about to ask…

Chris of Rights on November 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Gunman dressed in black.

Ban assault clothing!

davidk on November 1, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Concur it looks like Ruger Mini14 with folding stock.

Hotel1 on November 1, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Mini 14 with a composite stock.

Johnnyreb on November 1, 2013 at 2:25 PM

I don’t know how this could have happened, given all the rigorous pre-hire screening that TSA applicants have to go through.

slickwillie2001 on November 1, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Not enough pixels from the photo to determine. Looks like a bushmaster.

Bmore on November 1, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Mini 14 with some aftermarket tacti-cool tupperware stock?

old school on November 1, 2013 at 2:26 PM

LOL CNN had to close down it’s comment section the libs were so busy making fools of themselves.

HumpBot Salvation on November 1, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Ruger Mini-14, maybe?

Jeff Weimer on November 1, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Is there something wrong with the perspective in that picture? The rifle looks really small in comparison to the officer standing next to it..

Rocks on November 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Here’s a link: http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14/

Jeff Weimer on November 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Arlo Guthrie hardest hit:

FAA statement: ‘The situation at LAX is very fluid. There is currently a ground stop for flights that are scheduled to depart for LAX’ – via @NBCNews

davidk on November 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Could be a Hi-Point carbine? Photo really isn’t at a great angle for me to be sure.

PXCharon on November 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Here’s a link: http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14/

Jeff Weimer on November 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Could be. Just not enough pixel info. I up-sampled it significantly, just not enough info. Phone photos can be like that.

Bmore on November 1, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Bmore, capture this link.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Indeed… but I always add that I’m a confirmed Wolfpacker in the tarheel state.

;)

mankai on November 1, 2013 at 2:17 PM

OT but… I’m a Wolfpacker stuck in the middle of Seminole territory. Last week was *painful*

I don’t know how these these workplace violence incidents keep happening in gun free zones. Clearly they must have missed the signs walking in.

Defenestratus on November 1, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Are you sure? I was just about to ask…

Chris of Rights on November 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM

No idea…just snarking at the media.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Nice illustration. ; )

Bmore on November 1, 2013 at 2:32 PM

thats what i thought, either a hi point carbine or maybe a mini 14

burserker on November 1, 2013 at 2:32 PM

M1-carbine?

rbj on November 1, 2013 at 2:33 PM

I thought you’d like it. Took lots of effort to get it – saw a copy and searched my heart out to get the actual link.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Well the stock does look a lot like this aftermarket one for the Ruger Mini 14:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/121031/choate-pistol-grip-folding-rifle-stock-ruger-mini-14-mini-30-synthetic-black

It is folding which would make it much easier to conceal.

Rocks on November 1, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Mini 14 with a composite stock.

Johnnyreb on November 1, 2013 at 2:25 PM

.
I believe you are correct. I’ve been working the photo through various filters and there are what seem to be a number of Mini-14 features – the unique front gas block, the ejection port opens up as well as to the side, the handguard looks like the Mini-14 shape and it does appear to be an aftermarket stock. The grip is wierd – maybe it has a palm rest.

The magazine is 30 round size but could have the “CA button” in it to make it legal.

FYI, there is a fair amount of what I presume to be the shooter’s blood on the handguard.

PolAgnostic on November 1, 2013 at 2:34 PM

War on womynz:

Hillary Clinton announces new Clinton Foundation program to propel rights for women and girls – @ClintonFdn

davidk on November 1, 2013 at 2:35 PM

mankai on November 1, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Understand. I graduated from that lil Quaker school in Greensboro.

BigAlSouth on November 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Bmore, capture this link.

Schadenfreude on November 1, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Jiminy Jarret!

BobMbx on November 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM

o/t, but also ‘Breaking News’:

Federal Appeals Court Strikes Down Obamacare Contraception Mandate…

How will Sandra Fluke pay for her $9-per-month birth control pills now?

WASHINGTON (AP) – A divided appeals court panel is siding with Ohio business owners who challenged the birth control mandate under the new federal health care law.

The business owners are two brothers who say the mandate to provide contraceptive coverage would make them violate their Roman Catholic beliefs.

The ruling Friday by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit is one of many on the birth control issue, which likely will be resolved by the Supreme Court.

The appeals court panel says the mandate limits the right of free exercise of religion.

The brothers are Francis and Philip M. Gilardi. They say they don’t want to provide contraceptives like the Plan B pill for their employees. The Gilardis own Freshway Foods and Freshway Logistics of Sidney, Ohio.

The DC Circuit Court of Appeals is generally a fairly accurate prediction of how the Supreme Court will rule in the event it takes the case.

Resist We Much on November 1, 2013 at 2:41 PM

CNN on the air with ‘EARwitness’,

“We were looking around for somewhere safe so we went into a bathroom.”

BRILLIANT!!!… You intentionally went into a BOX with only ONE exit. GENIUS!

PolAgnostic on November 1, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Looks like a Mini-14.

Weight of Glory on November 1, 2013 at 2:46 PM

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