McCain: Maybe we can pass amnesty after the primaries are over next year

posted at 7:21 pm on October 30, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Breitbart. I don’t say this often about Maverick, but dude, I think he’s right.

Sort of:

Although 2014 is an election year, McCain said it’s possible that some lawmakers could be more supportive of the legislation, if they clear primary challenges in the spring and early summer.

“I think conventional wisdom is that time is not on our side,” McCain told reporters. “But there are a number of members of Congress who have primaries and when those primaries are done, they may be more inclined to address the issue of comprehensive immigration reform.”…

“It will not gain us a single Republican voter,” he said in response to a question from the club’sbreakfast audience. “But what it will do for the Republican Party is it will allow us to compete for the Hispanic vote. It will give us a playing field where we can argue for lower taxes, less regulation, smaller government, strong military, etcetera. But if we don’t pass it, we will not compete for the Hispanic vote.”

He thinks Boehner and Cantor are going to spearhead a big amnesty push next summer, with the midterms less than six months away? That’s insane. It’d be completely counterproductive, alienating conservatives who’ll otherwise be champing at the bit to vote and throwing the party wildly off from its all-ObamaCare-failures-all-the-time messaging. It’d be a supreme example of the GOP shooting itself in the foot at a moment of strength. So … yeah, this seems entirely plausible.

Wouldn’t early 2015 be a better time for the big amnesty push, though? Having just been reelected, RINOs in the House will feel safer than ever from tea-party wrath in crossing the aisle to pass comprehensive reform. Obama will probably be a bit more willing to bend on concessions, to make the bill cosmetically more conservative, since he’ll be waaaay into lame-duck territory by then and eager to secure one last “achievement” for his resume. The GOP establishment will have their eyes on the upcoming presidential election and will be frantic for the party to re-position itself with Latinos before the campaign gets rolling. That means Boehner and Cantor will be under even more pressure than they have been to bring something to the floor. Granted, the would-be tea-party champions of 2016 like Ted Cruz will resist the effort, but (a) Cruz knows he’ll have to win a general election as nominee so he won’t make too big of a fuss (why would he if he hasn’t already?) and (b) the sooner they pass something in 2015, the more time people will have to forget about it before the primaries begin. As important as immigration is, between O-Care, the economy, and conservative/libertarian wedge issues like NSA surveillance, it’s hard to believe it’ll consume the GOP debates in 2016. It’s more of a litmus test: All the candidates have to do is oppose whatever ends up passing the House and they’ll be acceptable enough on the issue for nomination purposes. Besides, establishmentarians know that grassroots righties are always more forgiving of conservative heresies during a presidential campaign because they’re completely committed to beating the Democrats and taking back the White House. If Hill Republicans are finally going to bite the bullet on comprehensive immigration reform, 2015 seems ideal.

There are, in fact, already defections. Here’s GOP Rep. Jeff Denham, who represents a district with a big Latino population, telling CNN he’ll vote with Democrats on this issue. Pelosi said a few days ago that they already have the votes in the House to pass the Senate Gang of Eight bill, which is no doubt true. All Boehner needs to do is let them vote. Is he really going to resist all the way up to election day 2016?


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KOOLAID2 on October 31, 2013 at 8:18 AM

I’m having trouble following McCain logic here. Can anyone explain how amnesty allows us to “argue for lower taxes, less regulation, smaller government, strong military”?

RJL on October 30, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Duhhhh… It’s underpants gnome logic.

Step 1: Amnesty over the will of the people

Step 2: ?????

Step 3: votes

njrob on October 31, 2013 at 10:24 AM

What a jackass. Maybe he wants amnesty so bad he will give the Demonrats the House to get it.

Jaibones on October 31, 2013 at 10:31 AM

First, you are missing the big point of what McCain said. He just said – after we lie during primaries about what we plan to do re: immigration, we will turn around and do the opposite.

And people like you keep pushing conservative to support the GOP? Even after they outright tell you they are going to lie to you?

Sure, you may be all for amnesty (I don’t know, but your post seems awfully forgivign to the outright lying the GOP is doing and to amnesty in general).

You may think that is perfectly acceptable – lie about your intentions on a major issue nad then do the opposite – but conservatives don’t and it is will end up with the GOP losing. I, for one, don’t intend to vote republican again for a very long time because quite frankly, why bothter? If they are going to give me Obamacare and Amnesty, I’d rather have democrats doing it so we can burn it all down faster. You seem to be in favor of “our team” winning elections, but seem to care very little about anything conservative actually being done.

Second:

But what it will do for the Republican Party is it will allow us to compete for the Hispanic vote. It will give us a playing field where we can argue for lower taxes, less regulation, smaller government, strong military, etcetera

Once again, there is zero evidence that an amnesty will shift ANY latino voters to vote republican and a TON of evidence to the contrary. This idiotic illusion that passing amnesty makes the GOP competitive with latino voters is too stupid to even laugh at.

What evidence is there for this proposition?

I’ll give you the anti-evidence:

Poll after poll shows latinos are left of center on size of gov’t, taxes, spending, health-care, and almost every other issue. The 1986 amnesty did not shift latino voters to the GOP. And finally, in our new “multi cultural” world, tribalism and victimism is all the rage – and latinos buy into that. Who caters to that – the GOP? No, the DNC does.

To the extent you’re relying on latino catholocism to believe they are “really conservative” – why are all south american countries left to far-left of center? Why are about 1/2 of American Catholics liberals? Why are blacks, who are allegedly socially conservative, always voting for liberalism?

Amnesty is bad policy for the country because it is going to a) increase gov’t costs; b) reward law-breakers; c) significantly increase new illegal immigration and d) add to unemployment. I would oppose amnesty no matter what because it is bad policy. But arguing that it somehow helps the GOP politically is absurd.

Monkeytoe on October 31, 2013 at 10:36 AM

So, AP is really John McCain. I knew it.

Mr. Arrogant on October 31, 2013 at 11:28 AM

I have reminded many of my Conservative friends of this, they keep saying, “…no immigration reform THIS year…”, and there are only 2 months left in this year. Words, they mean something.

rgranger on October 31, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I’m having trouble following McCain logic here. Can anyone explain how amnesty allows us to “argue for lower taxes, less regulation, smaller government, strong military”?

RJL on October 30, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Perhaps it’s a perverted logic whose proposition is that the hispanics now blindly follow the Democrats and therefore, if the Republicans can co-op them then they will blindly follow the Republicans. Highly unlikely but very McCanish.

rplat on October 31, 2013 at 12:06 PM

This must be stopped.
I want to see Rand Paul step it up and express his strong, unmistakable opposition to amnesty.

bluegill on October 30, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Great link at 24ahead, Bluegill. The deception (or could anyone be this stupid?) involved in the amnesty plan is astonishing, even for Washington.

Jaibones on October 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM

since he’ll be waaaay into lame-duck territory by then and eager to secure one last “achievement” for his resume.

Please. I think we’ve had enough of what Mr. Obama calls “achievements”.

We are all poorer, sicker, less secure and more overworked than ever.

So please, make it stop.

Marcus Traianus on October 31, 2013 at 12:08 PM

He’s a Democrat. Get him out of the party.

MT on October 31, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Bmore

KOOLAID2 on October 31, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Lolz! ; )

Bmore on October 31, 2013 at 12:19 PM

The establishmentarians should not assume the tea party or any of those of us who oppose amnesty will ever turn around and vote for them. Not this time. The middle class cannot take another hit like amnesty. And this is not to compete for Latino votes. This is to pay off business interests that want cheap labor. This is about money not votes. The Chamber of Commerce is pushing for this.

magicbeans on October 31, 2013 at 12:25 PM

The GOP is insane.

1. They started taking political advice from Chuckie Schumer 3 whole weeks after the 2012 election.

2. They think that REWARDING criminals with their ill-gotten gains will solve the crime problem.

3. They are trying to out-pander the Democrats for the 54% of Hispanics who favor amnesty (and LOSE their conservative base), instead of appealing to the 40% of Hispanics who favor attrition through enforcement (and ENERGIZE their base).

Read the poll (the ONLY one to offer attrition as a choice, unlike Guy Benson’s recent poll):

http://www.jmisys.com/immigrationmarches/zogby5.html

4. So McCain’s brazen public stance to represent his American citizen constituents is: a. LIE b. vote against the wishes of his base 3. retire on generous pension provided by his constituents.

McCain, Rubio, Cantor, Ryan, and their ilk are outright traitors to their constituents and their own country.

fred5678 on October 31, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Hey Mav, get lost!

rjoco1 on October 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM

“After the election, I’ll have more flexibility,” -J. McCain.

Akzed on October 31, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Dear “Maverick”:

Fvck off.

That is all.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on October 31, 2013 at 1:54 PM

He’s a Democrat. Get him out of the party.

MT on October 31, 2013 at 12:11 PM

the good people of AZ had that chance in 2012 …. they passed on it …
they MUST like this embarassing POS ….

conservative tarheel on October 31, 2013 at 1:59 PM

When Republicans controlled the White House and the Senate, McCain was a very influential Senator. But his influence was mainly due to his tendency to oppose Republican initiatives and join with Democrats. Only Lindsey Graham belongs to his posse, though, and even Graham has bolted on some issues. With Democrats in control, and Obama in the White House, McCain is just an eccentric old fool with no influence on anybody.

His main purpose in life these days is to rile up those conservatives who hate his guts. He’s become very good at it. But it’s a total waste of time. No, Boehner isn’t going to allow any vote on a bill that could split the party on the verge of an important midterm election. Worry about out-of-control self-promoters like Cruz damaging the brand in the few remaining competitive districts.

As to McCain, my feeling on him mirrors Clubber Lang’s thoughts on Rocky: “I don’t hate Balboa. I pity the fool.”

Adjoran on October 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM

I take what he said to imply that many sitting reps. will be primaried out and would be lame ducks with nothing more to lose. This to me is saying that that is the only way they can get this piece of catastrophy past the American people.

jainphx on October 31, 2013 at 3:05 PM

My eyes, my eyes! Please remove that photo of Mr. I am so centrist You have to love me man.

Fuquay Steve on October 31, 2013 at 3:28 PM

John, just go home, and shut up!

Another Drew on October 31, 2013 at 3:48 PM

I suppose then we ought to primary them all, just in case.

James on November 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Big Business wants this so they can fire all the Americans who have $12 an hour jobs and hire illegals who are working for $7.50 an hour.

flytier on November 3, 2013 at 4:29 PM

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