Where was the media when “open secret” of ObamaCare problems arose?

posted at 12:11 pm on October 28, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Over the weekend, I linked to an intriguing look from the New York Times inside the White House spin on the ObamaCare rollout, which spread nothing but sunshine and optimism to Democrats on Capitol Hill and especially to the media.  The article posits that Barack Obama and his health-care team were blindsided by the massive failures this month. However, in the second half of the article, the Times’ Michael Shear and Sheryl Gay Stolberg noted that the project’s defects were such an “open secret” in the industry that even the man who built Obama’s 2008 campaign online systems wanted nothing to do with it:

But among technology experts, the federal government’s poor performance in developing Web sites was an open secret.

Clay Johnson, a founder of Blue State Digital, the company that ultimately developed Mr. Obama’s 2008 campaign Web site, turned down a chance to work on HealthCare.gov last year, when he spent six months as a Presidential Innovation Fellow.

“It was a project I wanted to steer clear of,” he said.

So why didn’t the media pick up on this? Matt Lewis had a great article on Friday at The Week defending progressive critics of the ObamaCare rollout for exhibiting intellectual honesty, responding to a controversy raised by Salon’s Joan Walsh scolding Ezra Klein and Ryan Lizza for acknowledging reality:

This raises the question about the proper role of journalists who have a political philosophy. You might say, “Well if you’re just going to write what everyone else writes, why should a media outlet that wants to advance progressive or conservative ideas pay you?”

Philosophical journalists play an important role in terms of diversity. But the benefit is mostly baked in to the cake. In other words, their value is in their existence, not in their output. I am a temperamentally conservative person who has a conservative disposition. And I’m willing to concede that that worldview will naturally influence the things I choose to write about (selection bias), as well as the way I cover stories. That, in a nutshell, is the benefit for conservatives.

My guess is that Klein and Lizza would generally agree. If you’re looking for a hack or a cheerleader, you might want to look somewhere else. Like maybe Salon.

Where does one go to get some objective reporting on public policy? One unmentioned aspect of the “sticker shock” and “exchange collapse” stories, which the media now reports well, is that these problems were readily apparent before October 1, too — as the NYT admits in the second half of its Friday article.  In my column today for The Week, I argue that this remarkable incuriosity about a massive public-works project that was a key issue in the 2012 election and the 2013 budget fight suggests that cheerleading takes place at many other venues other than Salon:

Shear and Stolberg also noted that the tech firms that did get involved in the project tried to warn HHS and the White House that they were heading into a disaster. “Senior department officials” at HHS “predicted serious trouble and advised delaying the rollout,” they report.

CBS also reported on Thursday that the White House delayed key instructions for the development of the system during the summer of 2012 until after the election, which set the contractors back months in getting the code written. Between the 2010 passage of the ACA and August 31, 2012, HHS issued 109 regulations and guidances, but the flow mysteriously stopped between then and late November. No one bothered to notice this until after the collapse.

These are just a few examples of facts that might have been helpful to know earlier this year, or perhaps late last year before the election. Instead, the “open secret” of a disastrous rollout in the tech industry never got the attention of the media, nor did the political machinations or the fact that even the president’s own Innovation Fellow wanted nothing to do with the project.

After all, this wasn’t an obscure, tertiary bureaucratic effort; the ACA is the central mission of Obama’s presidency, and it “fundamentally transformed” one-sixth of the American economy. Where were the objective journalists keeping track of its progress? Why didn’t we hear about the rising skepticism within the industry on which Obama has now called for his “tech surge” rescue? Did none of these news reporters bother to develop leads within the industry and within CMS and HHS to inform people as to the real progress of the project?

Maybe the media didn’t dig into these “open secrets” because, like Democrats, the media was satisfied with just hearing the sunny spin from the White House.  It’s not as if this was entirely a secret; the Weekly Standard reported in July that the rollout would be a disaster on the security end, which got a little media attention that faded with White House reassurances that all was well.  Democrats aren’t the only ones suffering a credibility crisis. As Ron Fournier notes, though, Democrats are well aware of their own credibility meltdown … now:

“Dem Party is F****d.” That was the subject line of an email sent to me Sunday by a senior Democratic consultant with strong ties to the White House and Capitol Hill. The body of the email contained a link to thisLos Angeles Times story about Obamacare “sticker shock” …

The Democratic consultant said none of this is news to him, but he wonders why Obama wasn’t honest with Americans. He predicted surprise and outrage over higher costs and lesser coverage. “We will own this problem forever,” the Democrat wrote.

Only if the media refrains from playing cheerleader in the future.


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In a savvier Republicans-ruined-Obamacare argument, Washington Post wonk-blogger Ezra Klein contends that the Democratic part of Obamacare — Medicaid, which is single-payer — works. But: “The part of Obamacare that’s troubled is the part Democrats lifted from Republican policymakers. It’s the part that tries to integrate private insurance companies with government systems in order to create a universal insurance system that’s subsidized by the state but run by private companies.”

Get it? If Obamacare fails, it’s because Obamacare is a Republican plan.

Now, I won’t deny that two decades ago, some conservative think tank swell came up with the term “individual mandate” — which allowed other wonks to try to pin the tail on the elephant. But if liberals have to fish for a 1989 Heritage Foundation policy paper that had no Republican support in 2008, 2009 or 2012 to establish Republican paternity for the Affordable Care Act, that tells you one thing: They think Obamacare won’t work.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 12:12 PM

:):):):):):)

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 12:13 PM

because most of us thought the web site would work. I was the actual effects of Obamacare we were worried about. I never thought it would be a website issue.

gerrym51 on October 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Where were they? They were cheerleading for Teh One with their heads in the sand, or up their arses, or up his arse as the case may be.

Texas Zombie on October 28, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Plus “Dem Party is F****d.”

May they be fluked, into oblivion.

The entire world and her children would be better off.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Those darn radical Tea Party anarchists, terrorists, bomb throwers tried to warn everybody…but noooooooooo…

PatriotRider on October 28, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Stroking Barry’s balls.

bazil9 on October 28, 2013 at 12:19 PM

They were inside their echo chamber, which itself is inside a bubble.

Resist We Much on October 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Now, are any of the republicans smart enough or hungry enough to capitalize on it?

Boehner…McConnell…hello…you there? Is this thing on?

Thomas More on October 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM

I can’t wait for the website to start working so that all those Obama voters get to see their new lower premiums…hahahahahahahaha….

PatriotRider on October 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM

are there any kneepads in that pic??

ted c on October 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM

All anyone ever needed to know about this atrocity was when Nancy Pelosi publicly stated “We have to pass the bill to see what is in the bill”, or something to that effect.

fourdeucer on October 28, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Where were they? Attacking the GOP for pointing out the defects, that is where the media was.

pat on October 28, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Can’t wait for all those Obama voters to start paying that $2,500 fine sorry, tax…and get absolutely zippo for it…boy that will boost the economy…

PatriotRider on October 28, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Well now you know “what’s in it”…numbnuts…

PatriotRider on October 28, 2013 at 12:24 PM

The Dem’s biggest fear now is that the website will work and people can’t, or wont, afford the cost of Ocare requirements.

Tater Salad on October 28, 2013 at 12:25 PM

I’m sure Obama had no idea that the Affordable Care Act is in no way affordable, and nobody is angrier about it then he is.

NotCoach on October 28, 2013 at 12:25 PM

I guess too much swallowing by the media darlings caused a lil upchuck..

hillsoftx on October 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM

The ACA is a scathing indictment against the credibility of the big-government / progressive-fascist-statist agenda.

The entire Obama tenure in office is a scathing indictment against the credibility of the mainstream media.

They were inside their echo chamber, which itself is inside a bubble.

Resist We Much on October 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM

And that same bubble / echo chamber is blinding them to the reason why their revenues and circulation / ratings are falling – most people are loath to spend their hard earned cash on crap. And that is basically what their product is, crap. The Orwellian Ministry of Truth is no longer fiction….it’s the MSM.

Athos on October 28, 2013 at 12:27 PM

The “media” probably were too busy riding about in Scare Force One and partying with Barky and Mooch in Vega$ or on that African vacay junket.

Too busy kissing their fellow Communist’s posterior.

viking01 on October 28, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Out: Millions more will have insurance

In: Millions less have insurance

faraway on October 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM

My brother and sister-in-law drank the Kool-Aid twice and are now “shocked”…I told them to suck it up and pay. Maybe next time you’ll wise up…

PatriotRider on October 28, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Sophie, look at the weasels :)

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 12:29 PM

I you can’t get the website working, try the backup at healthcare.scam

faraway on October 28, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Say, I’m starting to get a little suspicious that the Media is a bit biased.

justltl on October 28, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Only if the media refrains from playing cheerleader in the future.

Fools, what you consume in obama’s azz ain’t Beluga caviar. All who don’t heed this, suffocate from what you eat.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 12:32 PM

“We’re F***ed” is the New Normal.

And people like Ted Cruz who dug their heels in hard to defund it will be vindicated.

portlandon on October 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Hey, we were promised that Obamacare would be nothing but puppies and unicorns. That isn’t proving to be remotely true. Nobody is gloating about what an awesome policy they now have thanks to Obamacare.

And it is getting worse and worse with the infirm and poor rushing to enroll (mostly through Medicaid). That only puts more pressure on getting the healthy and young to do the most stupid thing in their lives outside of voting for Obama- enrolling in Obamacare.

Democrats need to own this along with the surrender weasels who only lip service to fixing the problem.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 12:34 PM

This thing is dead. Problem is, libs never leave the first stage of grieving. Okay, maybe they bounce between stage one and two.

Scotty J on October 28, 2013 at 12:34 PM

In the news right now – the pigs in the admin, the top swine too, two weeks bef. Oct 1, decided to hide the costs, unless you filled out all your private information.

They feared that people would get sticker shock and leave the site.

I hope to God that you all get punished into the slowest burning layer in Hell. I’d laugh listening to you sizzle, slowly.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM

I know there’s going to be a buttload of people suffering under Obama Care, but watching the Dems run for the dark like roaches from the light is just so absolutely energizing. I’m fighting off the creeping feeling that I’m a bad person because many of these people suffering under the ACA not only voted for Obama, but actively and viciously attacked Repubs during the election cycles.

I’ll be ok, trust me.

44Magnum on October 28, 2013 at 12:36 PM

The NYT rejected BANKSY (the artist) Op-Ed on the New World Trade Center is a classic.
I felt like a ‘Meet The Press roundtable’, bobbing my head in agreement as I read it.
http://nypost.com/2013/10/27/banksy-rips-new-york-times-for-rejected-op-ed/

AmeriCuda on October 28, 2013 at 12:36 PM

This sums it up for me.May the pain and suffering to the dems and left be epic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZdeg_fL-I

docflash on October 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Patient – doesn’t mean the one who’s sick

Affordable – NOT

Care – NOT

Act – Indeed

Note how only weeks ago obama called it “Obamacare” in his speeches about how easy the site will be to use, like buying anything on Amazon, and such…

Now, he, the oaf in chief, the charlatanic liar, and Carney NO longer call it “Obamacare”. It’s all of a sudden the “ACA”.

Goebbels orgasms all over his grave.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Where was the media when “open secret” of ObamaCare problems arose?

Still looking for one of those racist Tea Partiers they write about so often.

antipc on October 28, 2013 at 12:38 PM

The glitches right now are only temporarily masking the sticker shock, and depleted tax returns to come. You think it’s bad now, just tell Ollie Obamaphone how big a bite the Obamacare fine is going to take from his EITC. And they wonder at the haunted house last weekend how I got the Wicked Rodham Witch cackle down so well.

Sekhmet on October 28, 2013 at 12:38 PM

A reader emails me, “The Republicans who hate Obama would not permit the creation of a decent single payer plan which would allow private insurance carriers to participate on a competitive uniform benefit program.” Another insists, “We wanted single payer! The GOP did not — that was the compromise, and it was one of many from this president.”

It’s starting. A Quote from RCP’s story yesterday. The Dems know the cats out of the bag on this and they are throwing anything against the wall to see if something might even remotely stick. It will get ugly.

Johnnyreb on October 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM

OT, or not :)

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM

“We’re F***ed” is the New Normal.

portlandon on October 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Makes more sense of the original 1-800 number for Obamacare.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Obama didn’t say anything about rising costs because 1 he had to get re-elected, and 2 we were supposed to blame the insurance companies.

I believe we were supposed to be so angry at the insurance companies that we would DEMAND single payer.

Obama seems to be taking the blame now, we’ll see what happens when the spin cycle starts.

tdarrington on October 28, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Would that include the so called Conservative media….?

d1carter on October 28, 2013 at 12:42 PM

The dems own this lock stock and barrel. Not one Republican voted for it, and none of the GOP have supported it. Some have tried very hard to stop the train wreck, but nope, the dems pushed the throttle all the way to the floor.

They will reap the results of their actions.

dogsoldier on October 28, 2013 at 12:42 PM

the refusal to cover the “open secret” most likely stems from the fear of losing “access”; we all know what happens to critics of t his administration

couple that fear with the equally overwhelming desire for barry to succeed and you have a most horrifying dilemma for libs:

i want barry to succeed so i should expose the flaws in the system so they can be fixed; however, if i try to get the flaws fixed, barry will disown me

their response illustrates perfectly where their true priorities lie

erclimb on October 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM

And it is getting worse and worse with the infirm and poor rushing to enroll (mostly through Medicaid). That only puts more pressure on getting the healthy and young to do the most stupid thing in their lives outside of voting for Obama- enrolling in Obamacare.

Democrats need to own this along with the surrender weasels who only lip service to fixing the problem.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Here in Kentucky they are crowing about the State’s success and the fact our website is working fine. However, nearly 70% of the people enrolling are enrolling in Medicaid and being directed to that site. I have a sinking feeling that my income tax rates are going to go through the roof in a few years just to cover those people.

Johnnyreb on October 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Maybe the intellectually and ethically dishonest mainstream media will attempt to ‘redeem’ themselves by covering a major technology failure….

….GOP Website offers Error:404 Obamacare bumper sticker for sale, and promptly fails as it is overloaded by those trying to get the bumper sticker…

On Monday, the Republican National Senatorial Committee rolled out a new sticker mocking Obamacare web failures. The sticker read: “404: Error.” Only one problem. After the stickers were linked by the Drudge Report, the GOP website promptly failed, giving a 504 overload error.

But since CGI Federal wasn’t involved in the building of the GOP site, we don’t have to wait until the end of November for the site to be fixed.

The problem has now been fixed.

Athos on October 28, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Where was the media when “open secret” of ObamaCare problems arose?

Looking through Mitt Romney’s tax records and interviewing a worthless union thug who was blaming his wife’s death on Bain Capital induced cancer.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I am guessing that if you did a poll of Americans they would think that most Republican Congressmembers voted for ObamaCare.

albill on October 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Where were they? These people live in a bubble where no one cares if insurance premiums or taxes go up and people lose their insurance or their doctors as long as the “greater good” as they see it is served.

They think the American people are so corrupted by “white skin privilege” that their suffering is inevitable to bring about a just society.

kcewa on October 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Healthcare.coma

faraway on October 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Advocacy group: 26,000 die prematurely without health insurance
A national health care consumer advocacy group estimates that three Americans die every hour as a result of not having health insurance.

Now, how many are dying just waiting to enter the dotgov portal?

fourdeucer on October 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Headline: Media surprisingly incurious about liberal program and its looming problems.

In related news: Water is wet.

Now, I won’t deny that two decades ago, some conservative think tank swell came up with the term “individual mandate” — which allowed other wonks to try to pin the tail on the elephant. But if liberals have to fish for a 1989 Heritage Foundation policy paper that had no Republican support in 2008, 2009 or 2012 to establish Republican paternity for the Affordable Care Act, that tells you one thing: They think Obamacare won’t work.

They never wanted it to work. They want single payer. It’s all going according to plan.

Coolidge_Conservative on October 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Not one Republican voted for it, and none of the GOP have supported it. Some have tried very hard to stop the train wreck, but nope, the dems pushed the throttle all the way to the floor.

They will reap the results of their actions.

dogsoldier on October 28, 2013 at 12:42 PM

I disagree with you about GOP support. Boehner, McConnell and the surrender weasels have only given lip service to opposing Obamacare. Three years and they done nothing but cave time and again with the promise to fight the next time but only by surrendering to live and fight another day.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM

They didn’t look at it because they were focused on the Sept 30 deadline for the passage of a Continuing Resolution on the Budget and the Debt Ceiling.

Once Ted Cruz did his great long speech on Obamacare about a week before the CR deadline and the vote in the Senate later that day to defund Obamacare failed, Republicans should immediately have passed the CR and raised the debt ceiling, then been ready to focus all their attention on the Oct 1 Obamacare roll-out.

As it is, the only thing we got out of the Shutdown was more confirmation that Obama is spiteful (the closing of the monuments), but we were hurt more in the process by the media constantly blaming the shutdown on us.

Reno_Dave on October 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Here in Kentucky they are crowing about the State’s success and the fact our website is working fine. However, nearly 70% of the people enrolling are enrolling in Medicaid and being directed to that site. I have a sinking feeling that my income tax rates are going to go through the roof in a few years just to cover those people.

Johnnyreb on October 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM

If you are of the producer class and not the parasite class then you’re pretty much screwed. If only you all had a big Senate election coming up next year or something.

At least you got a dam out of the deal.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Damn it. If the media won’t do it’s job, how will Obama ever know what’s going on in his administration?

PackerBronco on October 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

As it is, the only thing we got out of the Shutdown was more confirmation that Obama is spiteful (the closing of the monuments), but we were hurt more in the process by the media constantly blaming the shutdown on us.

Reno_Dave on October 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM

I simply don’t buy the media-generated blame matrix. Flyover country wasn’t seething at those Republicans for shutting down (13%) of the government. Inside the Beltway where the establishment Republicans and their allied surrender weasels were the only ones demanding a cave from the beginning. They are as responsible for Obamacare as anyone with a D behind their name.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM

A national health care consumer advocacy group estimates that three Americans die every hour as a result of not having health insurance.

And with Obamacare they’ll die waiting in line to be seen by a doctor or because of sub-standard care.

kcewa on October 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

In the news right now – the pigs in the admin, the top swine too, two weeks bef. Oct 1, decided to hide the costs, unless you filled out all your private information.

They feared that people would get sticker shock and leave the site.

I hope to God that you all get punished into the slowest burning layer in Hell. I’d laugh listening to you sizzle, slowly.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Yet someone on here tried to play devil’s advocate and say that it may have been more difficult to show the plans before having the person register. I’ve worked on sites that allow users to put in all of their information and not create a user name and password until the end (or not if they don’t want to), so I know that it’s not difficult at all. The fact that they may have caused this website collapse because they put it behind the register wall, just shows the games they were trying to play.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Regarding the Heritage proposal from the late 1980s, I wish the damned Republicans would bone up on their background information so that they could shove this talking point right back down the faces of liberals.

The Heritage proposal was NOT an insurance proposal to protect the insureds. It was an insurance proposal to protect society from having to cost of uncompensated catastrophic care. Much like financial responsibility (or minimum coverage) laws that many states have in the auto insurance industry, the Heritage proposal was that all adults be required to carry a level of insurance that would cover some level of catastrophe. The idea was that the policies would be high-deductible, low premium policies intended to cover you for catastrophic injuries. No prescription drug, no wellness visits. Very bare bones coverage. In short, nothing like the mandated coverage of Obamacare. Obamacare and the Heritage proposal are apples and broccoli.

BuckeyeSam on October 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Where does one go to get some objective reporting on public policy?

False premise.

If one looks at results objectively, one will be a conservative because conservatism works. This is like asking for “objective reporting” covering a supposed middle ground as to whether water is wet. There is no real debate, just an acknowledgment of the obvious or a desire to hold on to a theory which is preposterous.

Leftist writers are selling failed fantasies. There is very little an objective observer will find in their theories and results that will keep a truly objective observer from becoming a conservative.

mankai on October 28, 2013 at 1:01 PM

The idea was that the policies would be high-deductible, low premium policies intended to cover you for catastrophic injuries.
BuckeyeSam on October 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

And it’s those low cost catastrophic care policies (exactly the sort of policies that young healthy people without a lot of cash need) that Obamacare is outlawing.

kcewa on October 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Speaking of liars-

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie says his greeting of President Barack Obama when the president arrived in Atlantic City to tour the devastation from Hurricane Sandy was not, as many have said, a “hug.”

He’s referring to the initial meeting at the airport. I guess trying to get the public to forget the scene on the beach where Christie was all but dry-humping the lazy stupid coward’s leg.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM

A national health care consumer advocacy group estimates that three Americans die every hour as a result of not having health insurance.

Who knew that just having health insurance could save someone’s life. So if I have health insurance, I’ll never die?

mankai on October 28, 2013 at 1:04 PM

As Jesse Pinkman would say – EAT IT BITCHES!!!!!!!!

powerpickle on October 28, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Yet someone on here tried to play devil’s advocate and say that it may have been more difficult to show the plans before having the person register. I’ve worked on sites that allow users to put in all of their information and not create a user name and password until the end (or not if they don’t want to), so I know that it’s not difficult at all. The fact that they may have caused this website collapse because they put it behind the register wall, just shows the games they were trying to play.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Healthcare.gov was built this way in the first place. I was only after the administration found that you could see the premiums that they wanted them hidden until registration.

oldroy on October 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM

The fact that they may have caused this website collapse because they put it behind the register wall, just shows the games they were trying to play.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM

The site was designed so as to search for subsidies before the user could see the options. Why? Because they knew the options suck for most of the users they need to enroll. Uniform mandatory coverage and pricing ensures that there are limited choices and higher cost than more flexible coverage and pricing.

The only people that benefit from Obamacare are the ones that aren’t paying into the system. And the Dems are absolutely shocked that Obama is coming out after their money for a change.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Flyover country wasn’t seething at those Republicans for shutting down (13%) of the government. Inside the Beltway where the establishment Republicans and their allied surrender weasels were the only ones demanding a cave from the beginning. They are as responsible for Obamacare as anyone with a D behind their name

Oh, that’s BS. Republicans didn’t have the votes to defund Obamacare in the Senate, and they were never going to get the mind share necessary to turn Red State Dems with Harry Reid and Obama running the “Republicans-Are-Responsible-For-the-Shutodown” show.

We could talk about what was likely going to happen all we wanted, but people weren’t going to believe it until they saw it first hand.

If we had passed a CR and Debt ceiling increase on Sept 30, then we would have been the party that took us up to the deadline, and maybe we would have “caved”, but we would have been able to immediately pivot to the failures of Obamacare, and we would have been able to talk about this unhindered by any other deadline for an additional two weeks.

Instead, we squandered it.

Look at our successes of the past year on stopping the gun control effort and slowing down the push for immigration reform. We got those successes because there were no shutdown or deficit ceiling deadlines in the news at that time, and we were able to get our message out.

Maybe we could have succeeded in a defund effort if we began it in May, 2013, but it didn’t come up until August or Sept, and by then, all the talk in the press was about the deadlines.

Reno_Dave on October 28, 2013 at 1:11 PM

“We’re F***ed” is the New Normal.

And people like Ted Cruz who dug their heels in hard to defund it will be vindicated.

portlandon on October 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM

I think he and Mike Lee already are.

A new National Website Cruz put up for people to post their experiences with Obamacare.

http://www.jobsgrowth.org/stories/ A lot of Americans are already replying.

Cruz also wants people to text on their cell phone, 33733 and enter Growth.

bluefox on October 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Damn those sly and crazy Republicans…

They sucked the progs into doing something that would fail

txdoc on October 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM

The only people that benefit from Obamacare are the ones that aren’t paying into the system. And the Dems are absolutely shocked that Obama is coming out after their money for a change.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Just wait until next year’s premiums. This is just the start. Sticker shock two years in a row. I think it’s right to say the dem part is effed. If only immigration can be stopped before it get’s shoved through, then spending can be at least slowed, we have a sliver of hope of surviving this mess.

oldroy on October 28, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Ed, the Media are to blame for the 2008 Presidential Election.

Their johnny-come-lately is pure B.S. Everything they do is to prop of B.O., everything.

Have you forgotten so soon what Andrew Breitbart stood for and did?

bluefox on October 28, 2013 at 1:17 PM

If we had passed a CR and Debt ceiling increase on Sept 30, then we would have been the party that took us up to the deadline, and maybe we would have “caved”, but we would have been able to immediately pivot to the failures of Obamacare, and we would have been able to talk about this unhindered by any other deadline for an additional two weeks.

First of all stop using the word ‘we’. Secondly if that had happened the press would have said that the “moderates” had taken back control of the party and agreed to implement Obamacare. The Republicans would now own it as much as the Dems.

kcewa on October 28, 2013 at 1:18 PM

I love how everyone keeps referring to the $95 penalty.

In reality, it’s $95 or 1% of your income, whichever is greater. So you’ll pay $95 – if you happen to only make $9500/year.

Make $50k/year? $500 penalty.

Make $100k/year? $1000 penalty.

Midas on October 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM

“Dem Party is F****d.”

Slight tweak.

“Because of the Dem Party America is F****d.”

Bmore on October 28, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Bmore on October 28, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Just wait until next year’s premiums. This is just the start. Sticker shock two years in a row. I think it’s right to say the dem part is effed. If only immigration can be stopped before it get’s shoved through, then spending can be at least slowed, we have a sliver of hope of surviving this mess.

oldroy on October 28, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Well, that’s certainly somewhat hopeful, but you’re neglecting the fact that the GOP is hell-bent to make sure they don’t capitalize on this and lose future elections anyway, but pissing on their base at every possible opportunity – and then inventing a few more opportunities to do so.

Midas on October 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Rush talking about the “surprise” among Dems about the effects of Obamacare. Dems are not worried about what this does to Americans. They are concerned what this means to the Democrat Party because Dems own Obamacare.

CYA mode for Dems facing hostile constituents.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 1:23 PM

I love how everyone keeps referring to the $95 penalty.

In reality, it’s $95 or 1% of your income, whichever is greater. So you’ll pay $95 – if you happen to only make $9500/year.

Make $50k/year? $500 penalty.

Make $100k/year? $1000 penalty.

Midas on October 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM

That’s only in 2014. The penalty goes up in later years.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 1:24 PM

I use the word “we” because I am a member of the Washoe County Republican Party Central Committee (that’s the Nevada county in which Reno is located).

The media would not have been able to maintain that story that the Republicans were co-owners of Obamacare, because all along, they were saying we couldn’t defund it.

Reno_Dave on October 28, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Another thing is I don’t give a sh** about their website!!!!

It is the Obamacare “law” that is destroying this Country!!

In case you haven’t had enough of this abomination, here’s more:

There are reports that there are NO Out of Network Coverage. Also, the rates and coverages are per COUNTY!

If this is true with most of these policies, then don’t leave your County!!!!!

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=225462#discuss

Be sure to read the responses from people that are reporting this.

2,700 original pages of this, plus 20,000 additional pages of Rules & Regulations!! Who has taken the time to read them???? Anyone signing up for this disaster is buying a pig in a poke.

bluefox on October 28, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Well, that’s certainly somewhat hopeful, but you’re neglecting the fact that the GOP is hell-bent to make sure they don’t capitalize on this and lose future elections anyway, but pissing on their base at every possible opportunity – and then inventing a few more opportunities to do so.

Midas on October 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Yup. It’s incorrect to assume this is a golden opportunity for the GOPe.

In order to effect any change, both the Dem Party, the GOPe “leadership” and old status-quo lurving farts like McCant, Grahamnesty, Peter King and McConnell ALL need to be thrown out and/or curtailed so they are politically irrelevant.

Myron Falwell on October 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM

That’s only in 2014. The penalty goes up in later years.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 1:24 PM

In 2015, it’s 2% of one’s income, and in 2016, it’s 2.5%. That’s the max (at this point).

Athos on October 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM

I use the word “we” because I am a member of the Washoe County Republican Party Central Committee (that’s the Nevada county in which Reno is located).

The media would not have been able to maintain that story that the Republicans were co-owners of Obamacare, because all along, they were saying we couldn’t defund it.

Reno_Dave on October 28, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Sorry about the “we” crack. However I think you underestimate the ingenuity of the media and the desire of people to believe their president. And the media wasn’t saying the Republican party was trying to defund Ocare, they were saying the conservative Tea Party was. They were painting the mainstream Republicans as heroes as those Republicans were attacking the Tea Party.

kcewa on October 28, 2013 at 1:35 PM

The media and blog trolls ate already out with the meme that theres a difference between Obama lying and not knowing. Unbelievable! The msm keeps trying to shine up this turd but are just left with handfuls of s–t!

neyney on October 28, 2013 at 1:36 PM

We no longer have a “news” media. We only have a gaggle of pandering stooges and self-serving “C” average journalist majors. They are in fact a propaganda network of the left. Their babbling should be no surprise when one considers their agenda and political loyalties.

rplat on October 28, 2013 at 1:38 PM

I just knew in my bones, God has not forsaken this country yet, despite the left’s best efforts to break all his laws.. and replace him with party worship, and the cult of personality.

We know it’ll be years sorting out this mess, millions having lost their insurance with no chance they can afford Obama’s train wreck, years digging it out of the system..

Obama may end up doing what a century of bitter ugly failure across the world has not done.. discredit the left completely in the United States..

The irony of Obama, saving America from sliding into third world status, is it was his utter incompetence and non leadership which discredited the left and all it’s works.. he’ll end up achieving the opposite of what he so desperately wanted.. instead of cementing democrat party rule forever, he’s made them run and hide from everything he believes in…

The GOP should send him a retirement check with a “well done” thank you card if this ends up going where it seems to be..

The same public so bitterly betrayed and angry right now.. is not going to forgive these fools and give them free reign to adopt their single payer dream, because of a complete certainty, they’ll eff that up just as badly..

mark81150 on October 28, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Here you go! H/T http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/10/andrew-breitbart-take-on-the-bullies-on-the-playground//#more

While looking for something else, I stumbled up this interview by Prof. Glenn Reynolds and the Insta-Wife of Andrew Breitbart from February 2010.

It may be the best interview of Andrew I’ve ever seen.

At 8:45 Andrew describes highly-credentialed mainstream journalists as “the most arrogant bastards you could possibly meet in your entire life.” Sounds about right. Maybe understatement.

bluefox on October 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM

We no longer have a “news” media. We only have a gaggle of pandering stooges and self-serving “C” average journalist majors. They are in fact a propaganda network of the left. Their babbling should be no surprise when one considers their agenda and political loyalties.

rplat on October 28, 2013 at 1:38 PM

after watching any network TV news.. you get the distinct feeling, they’d all rather be working for Moveon.org and Media Matters..

their content is little different most times..

“love the democrats”.. yah!…

“burn the heretic conservatives”.. Booo!

70 years of this, becoming more and more blatant and obvious to all but the most braindead partisans..

mark81150 on October 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM

I have had insurance through my employer for 10 years. My monthly contribution has increased modestly over the years, but my annual deductible has remained constant at $400 per person/$800 per family.
For 2014, we have learned that our monthly contributions will TRIPLE and our deductible will QUADRUPLE.
This will not be unique for my company. When others with employer-sponsored insurance begin to see what this Obama scam is going to do their pocketbooks, the outrage will grow.

maryo on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

However I think you underestimate the ingenuity of the media and the desire of people to believe their president. And the media wasn’t saying the Republican party was trying to defund Ocare, they were saying the conservative Tea Party was. They were painting the mainstream Republicans as heroes as those Republicans were attacking the Tea Party.

I get that, and in many ways I’m a TEA partier, but IMO, some of the mainstream Republicans understood that with the pressure of a shutdown and debt ceiling, the TEA Party message of smaller government would never get through (I’m not counting McCain in that group, BTW).

Senators Cruz and Lee did a great job, but once the vote to defund failed, they should have pushed the TEA Party members in Congress to free Boehner from the restrictions of the Hastert Rule, then they could have voted their conscience in the House, and immediately after Oct 1 begin to hit Obamacare with “This is why we wanted to defund it”.

Then the TEA party message should move to highlight people being hurt by Obamacare, and explain that this is because government has gotten too big and controlling, and fighting for the individual against the ravages of Big Government is the reason for the existence of the TEA Party.

Regular ol’ Americans are beginning to see what Obamacare is doing to them, and they will be more receptive to a TEA Party message if the TP is able to point to reality.

Reno_Dave on October 28, 2013 at 1:53 PM

bluefox on October 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Thank you for posting this… listening now.

mark81150 on October 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Maybe the media didn’t dig into these “open secrets” because, like Democrats, the media was satisfied with just hearing the sunny spin from the White House.

The media didn’t ‘dig’ simply because they had an election to win FOR OBAMA.

Priorities ya know!

GarandFan on October 28, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Now, are any of the republicans smart enough or hungry enough to capitalize on it?

Boehner…McConnell…hello…you there? Is this thing on?

Thomas More on October 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Never going to happen. If they do so they’ll be admitting Ted Cruz is right and helping to raise his profile even more. The party leadership is now in the position where they must either support Obamacare or be seen as “caving in” to their hated enemy, the Tea Party/Cruz. It should not come as any surprise that they’re choosing the former.

It’s also worth noting that Obama deals with the Republican Party in general in this way. By now the Democrats all know Obamacare doesn’t work, but they can’t be seen to show weakness in front of the hated Republicans.

Doomberg on October 28, 2013 at 1:59 PM

I believe the media has left the cheerleading mode only after I see a simple front-page headline in the WaPo and/or the NYT:
“The Tea Parties were right about Obamacare.”

michaelo on October 28, 2013 at 2:00 PM

I guess too much swallowing by the media darlings caused a lil upchuck..

hillsoftx on October 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM

I doubt it. Everyone knows that those media darlings have no gag reflex……

Renee on October 28, 2013 at 2:06 PM

This will not be unique for my company. When others with employer-sponsored insurance begin to see what this Obama scam is going to do their pocketbooks, the outrage will grow.

maryo on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

This is all due to the Insurance Companys having to comply with the Obamacare requirements; i.e. Maternity for single men, etc.

May I encourage you to report this to the new website Senator Cruz has set up? Many are already replying. He’s trying to get as many real life premium disasters people are facing due to Obamacare.

http://www.jobsgrowth.org/stories/

bluefox on October 28, 2013 at 2:07 PM

The entire DC press corps should be made to re-watch the 2009 town hall meetings. They would see that the (future) Tea Partiers were warning against exactly the problems Obamacare is now facing:

—Massive cost overruns
—Inept (and unaccountable) bureaucracy
—Skyrocketing premiums/deductibles
—Doctors dropping out of system
—Lack of privacy/security
—Politicization of IRS/HHS
—Gov’t lies with no repercussions
—Huge potential for fraud
and, worst—little improvement in the number of uninsureds

In those town halls, every single one of the above were pointed out angrily because the politicians and media simply didn’t want to hear it. All they saw was white, middle aged people….AKA racists!

It’s about time for some headlines saying: The Tea Party was Right

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