Rubio: Actually, maybe a comprehensive approach isn’t the way to go on immigration right now

posted at 11:21 am on October 28, 2013 by Allahpundit

He claims in the clip below that he’s always preferred a sequential, piecemeal approach to immigration to the comprehensive one. True or false? Here’s what his spokesman said last November:

Conant says Rubio is no fan of comprehensive immigration reform, though he will examine other legislators’ proposals with an open mind.

“Senator Rubio has always said that the best way to tackle immigration reform is not comprehensively, but sequentially,” he tells the News. “Rather than trying to pass everything in one big bill that a lot of people are going to find fault with, you pass things one at a time and find some consensus, starting with measures dealing with the children of illegal immigrants. When we get that done, then we can move on to other problems with our system.”

So it’s true. He did prefer a piecemeal approach! …And then, less than three months later, he stood at the podium as a member of the Gang of Eight and endorsed a comprehensive immigration bill. That’s an awfully fast conversion, so much so that, given the timeline, I’d be surprised if no one from the inchoate Gang had already approached him to feel him out about a comprehensive bill by the time his office issued that statement backing piecemeal reform in November. In fact, the whole reason the other Gang members wanted Rubio on board is because they knew they’d need to sell comprehensive reform to the right and they figured he was the one guy in the Senate with enough conservative cred (and national ambitions) that he’d be willing to try. It’s one thing to grudgingly vote for a comprehensive bill even though you’d rather have something smaller; it’s another to act as chief salesman for a comprehensive bill to a group of people who supported your election to the Senate because they naively thought you’d be a bulwark against amnesty sell-outs like the Gang bill. Go back over the past nine months and you’ll find Rubio repeatedly defending the wisdom of granting probationary legalization to illegals without first insisting on border-security improvements — the core objection of border hawks to the Gang’s bill and the main comprehensivist sin that a piecemeal approach is supposed to avoid. If he thinks security shouldn’t absolutely come first, before legalization, why did he ever support a piecemeal approach to begin with?

What he’s really admitting here, in emphasizing that the consensus doesn’t exist now in Congress to get a comprehensive bill through, is that his sales efforts failed. He needed to convince grassroots righties that having their congressman or Senator vote for legalization without security guarantees would be acceptable. He didn’t. Now here’s the new statement from his office. It’s not that he suddenly thinks a comprehensive approach is bad, it’s just that it’s obviously going nowhere at this point:

“The country needs to solve our immigration problems — and to solve them will require eventually dealing with every aspect of it. The Senate has already dealt with this issue, and Senator Rubio has always said we should give the House the time and space they need to figure which reforms they can support. But in order to make progress, we need to be realistic in our expectations. An ‘all or nothing’ strategy on immigration reform would result in nothing. What is keeping us from progress on a series of immigration issues on which there is strong consensus is the fear that a conference committee on a limited bill will be used to negotiate a comprehensive one. We should take that option off the table so that we can begin to move on the things we agree on.”

That’s been the big conservative fear since the Gang of Eight bill passed the Senate — that Boehner and the House would pass something more modest on immigration and then, during a conference committee on the two bills with the Senate, the GOP leadership would cave and agree to bring the Gang’s bill (or something substantially similar) to the floor for a vote in the House. Rubio’s office told Breitbart this weekend, “Any effort to use a limited bill as a ruse to trigger a conference that would then produce a comprehensive bill would be counterproductive. Furthermore, any such effort would fail, because any single senator can and will block conference unless such conference is specifically instructed to limit the conference to only the issue dealt with in the underlying bill.” In other words, some tea-party champion in the Senate could try to stop a conference by objecting — and if you think Rubio’s immigration headache is bad now, imagine if Ted Cruz tried to galvanize grassroots conservatives again by vowing to block a conference on Rubio’s own Gang of Eight bill. That’s why Rubio’s backing away on “consensus” grounds, I take it. Now, if someone tries to block the conference, he can say that he agrees with them and thinks sequential piecemeal bills are the only realistic option.

With Rubio’s support for comprehensive reform gone, that’s probably the end for comprehensive reform anytime soon. Time to forgive and forget? No way, says Mickey Kaus:

Ann Coulter seems willing to forgive Rubio**–a sound tactical position, given that if you oppose amnesty you want to give its supporters an incentive to jump ship. For the record, I agree. But just between us, I don’t. I will never forgive Rubio.*** First, it’s pretty obvious he’s only abandoning amnesty because he has to face the voters. Like John McCain, who goes into comprehensivist remission every 6 years, he’ll be back pushing it as soon as the voting’s over. He was for protecting illegal immigrants before he was against it, let’s remember (that’s before he was for it again). With the immigration debate heading into a crucial month, even transparently insincere converts are welcome, of course. But don’t pretend the slate has been wiped clean.

Second, the level of slick mendacity Rubio achieved while attempting to sell the comprehensive bill he now disowns should rule him out of consideration for national office. He tries to con people, and he’s good at it. Just not good enough to fool the GOP primary electorate.

Exit question: Is it even true, as Rubio’s office claims, that there’s not enough consensus to pass comprehensive reform? One of Obama’s pet talking points lately on immigration is that there is consensus, that if Boehner would simply bring the Gang of Eight bill to the floor, he’d surely get 190 or so Democrats plus 30-40 Republicans. And he’s right! There may not be consensus among House Republicans, but there’s consensus among the entire House. And thanks to the futility of the “defund” effort this past month, House RINOs might be a bit more willing to pander on immigration in the name of rehabbing the party’s crumbling favorable rating by voting for comprehensive reform, even if it alienates some grassroots righties. That is to say, the whole “no consensus” excuse for abandoning the Gang’s bill seems like just that to me — an excuse, which Rubio’s now using surreally to say that the bill he helped write and which passed the Senate overwhelmingly should be quietly dropped rather than risk a conference committee process on it that conservatives will dislike.

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Update: And yet another way to put it:


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Sometimes the learning curve leaves black eyes and missing teeth.

Let’s hope he actually learned something.

portlandon on October 28, 2013 at 11:23 AM

RINO.

Oil Can on October 28, 2013 at 11:24 AM

His lips are moving…

oldroy on October 28, 2013 at 11:25 AM

I think this will be probably be too little to late for Rubio but I will admit, I don’t see anyone on the horizon in Florida that will make me vote against him for his senate seat.

Cindy Munford on October 28, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Out: Football. In: Watching execrable RINOs wriggle like the slippery little sh*ts that they are in the political winds.

ex_machina on October 28, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Hows your girlfriend Schumer getting along?

Bmore on October 28, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Marco “Weathervane” Rubio spinning in the wind to regain relevancy.

SteveInRTP on October 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Piecemeal approach:
1. Immediate immigration moratorium.
2. Secure the borders by any and all means necessary.
3. Felony raps for anyone hiring illegals, knowingly or unknowingly. Watch the self-deportations begin.
4. Repatriate all illegals. Yes, it can be done.
5. Repeal the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act.
6. Introduce sane immigration legislation that isn’t designed to destroy the United States of America.
7. Restart sane immigration.

Anything less is treason.

ex_machina on October 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM

This is just the first step on a very long journey to attempt to restore his conservative credibility….

There are no guarantees that the voters of Florida will believe that he has completed that journey either – but much of it will depend on his consistency going forward.

I have my doubts.

His willingness to be ‘liked’ and partner in the Gang of 8, combined with his willingness to not learn one of the big lessons from the 1986 amnesty (border security),tells me that he ultimately remains wrong about immigration reform even if he does support a step by step solution.

Athos on October 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM

What he’s really admitting here, in emphasizing that the consensus doesn’t exist now in Congress to get a comprehensive bill through, is that his sales efforts failed.

Rubio admitted that the support isn’t there for his bill. Well, my support for Rubio ended when he got caught telling a different story about what the bill would do for the illegals when speaking on Univision than when he was speaking on an english-language channel.

The surrender weasels will be really pushing for “immigration reform” They have been emboldened by the lack of leadership from Boehner and McConnell.

Happy Nomad on October 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Yeah, obviously he’s seen the poll numbers for the 2016 GOP Presidential primary and he fears any hope of contending is slipping away. Too late, Marco. You were repeatedly warned about how toxic amnesty is with the base, yet not only did you charge ahead in pushing the Gang of Eight bill, but you lied about its contents to the public(at least to those with English as their first language).

If he had walked away from this BEFORE it was passed in the Senate and denounced it publicly, then I would’ve at least been receptive to giving him another chance. But that ship has long since sailed.

Doughboy on October 28, 2013 at 11:33 AM

A$$clown – he is trying to have his cake and eat it to. He knows he can’t go back and change his vote, which is really what matters, so why not do the Beltway Two-step.

MoreLiberty on October 28, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Cambio de corazón.

steebo77 on October 28, 2013 at 11:35 AM

He sounds like a child.

wheelgun on October 28, 2013 at 11:37 AM

I don’t know. Can you come back from the dark side of the force?

magicbeans on October 28, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Derp.

Ward Cleaver on October 28, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Let’s hope he actually learned something.

portlandon on October 28, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Like somebody said about 2nd marriages, our government is the triumph of hope over experience.

Fenris on October 28, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Exit question: Is it even true, as Rubio’s office claims, that there’s not enough consensus to pass comprehensive reform? One of Obama’s pet talking points lately on immigration is that there is consensus, that if Boehner would simply bring the Gang of Eight bill to the floor, he’d surely get 190 or so Democrats plus 30-40 Republicans.

¿Estás diciendo que Rubio es un mentiroso más grande que Obama?

steebo77 on October 28, 2013 at 11:39 AM

I don’t know. Can you come back from the dark side of the force?

magicbeans on October 28, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Only one person ever did, and he didn’t last long.

Doughboy on October 28, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Good thing that power got to his head early.

Exposed, three times flipper.

NO mas!!!

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 11:41 AM

So Ted Cruz was wrong and the Republican Party is dying. Then why are all these guys running for conservative cover?

kcewa on October 28, 2013 at 11:41 AM

…even if he does support a step by step solution.

Athos on October 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Step by step is irrelevant. What is relevant is which step you’re taking. Rubio’s first step is:

starting with measures dealing with the children of illegal immigrants.

Does anybody think this means deporting the illegal immigrant parents?

Fenris on October 28, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Go hang out with McCain and Schumer now, traitor to the TEA party, your land, the legal citizens and their children.

ALL who are for amnesty hate the legal citizens and their children.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM

This guy is always whining like child and looks like he is about to cry. Is this country simply out of stock of strong, honorable, moral people who want to serve?

rplat on October 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Hows your girlfriend Schumer getting along?

Bmore on October 28, 2013 at 11:30 AM

HA! Well done.

bazil9 on October 28, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Mark this down – if amnesty passes, Pelosi will be the much-deserved Speaker in 2015.

The Rs won’t even be the desired minority. The creeps like their minority status, so long as they live regal lives.

NO mas!!!

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Hows your girlfriend Schumer getting along?

Bmore on October 28, 2013 at 11:30 AM

You still must put Ms. Lindsey in a pink skirt :)

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Why the hate? Marco is just evolving, once again.

bazil9 on October 28, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Sometimes the learning curve leaves black eyes and missing teeth.

Let’s hope he actually learned something.

portlandon on October 28, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Yes, he learned that he came pretty close this time but didn’t quite get what he wanted. Next time he’ll change tactics slightly and try just a bit harder. That’s what he learned.

Zetterson on October 28, 2013 at 11:45 AM

The GOP will betray you.

cynccook on October 28, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Great, he learned something. Too bad he had to be a treacherous, lying, back-stabbing piece of crap in order to learn it.

Go lick your wounds in the private sector.

Midas on October 28, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Heh

…but count on the Rs to fluke it up still.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 11:53 AM

The main strategy of the Democrats, in regard to immigration, is to get a bill, any bill, into conference where they will pour in whatever their cold dark hearts desire. Then between the Democrats and squishy Republicans, they will pass it in both houses.

I don’t see Marco Rubio’s “new strategy” as doing anything better to stop the Democrat’s plan.

J_Crater on October 28, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Sometimes the learning curve leaves black eyes and missing teeth.

Let’s hope he actually learned something.

portlandon on October 28, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Phooey. Let’s hope actually worthy candidates had their actually conservative views reinforced. As for this windsock-puppet, he can go attach himslef to a ‘pole’ on Key West.

M240H on October 28, 2013 at 11:54 AM

New LIE, same Rubio.

Pork-Chop on October 28, 2013 at 12:01 PM

He bit the hand that fed him because his last name is Rubio. It’s that simple. He placed his interest in his culture over the interest of the American people. He is dead to me.

neyney on October 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Rubio was against AMNESTY … before he was for AMNESTY … before he was against AMNESTY … before he was …

Pork-Chop on October 28, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Reminder: Rubio is a liar.

Panther on October 28, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Exit question: Is it even true, as Rubio’s office claims, that there’s not enough consensus to pass comprehensive reform?

Another distraction by two-faced Rubio. He knows as we all do that any bill that Boehner brings up will pass, go to Conference and shazamm!, we’ll have the Senate bill.

Furthermore, any such effort would fail, because any single senator can and will block conference unless such conference is specifically instructed to limit the conference to only the issue dealt with in the underlying bill.”

What are the odds that Rubio would do that? I almost couldn’t finish typing that I was LOL

Oh, did I mention he’s a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence?

bluefox on October 28, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Rubio is as untrustworthy on this issue as Obama.

Texas Zombie on October 28, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Hasta la vista Senor Marco.

Mr. Arrogant on October 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM

The long way of saying “I was for it before I was against it before I was for it ….”

He only wants to be reelected.

TerryW on October 28, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Rubio is as untrustworthy on this issue as Obama.

Texas Zombie on October 28, 2013 at 12:18 PM

I agree, but another one in the House is Paul Ryan. Working hard behind the scenes with Boehner/Cantor/McCarthy on writing the House version. Well, actually, Ryan is working with his BFF Guiterrez.

Waiting to see if Wisconsin will throw Ryan out.

I’ve never seen so many Republicans working so hard to commit suicide.

bluefox on October 28, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Yo Rube, forget 2016. Just FORGET IT. You are DONE on the national stage.

philw1776 on October 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM

How about comprehensive enforcement of the existing law?
I know..I know..thats crazy.

Mimzey on October 28, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out….

viking01 on October 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM

DrewM is exactly right.

Rubio was told he was going to be the point man, making him Obama’s equal at the bill signing.

Instead, they played him for his credibility. And now he’s lost it.

budfox on October 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM

So Ted Cruz was wrong and the Republican Party is dying. Then why are all these guys running for conservative cover?

kcewa on October 28, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Don’t tell Schumer’s Republicans, but it looks like its Wacko-birds 1 RINOS 0.

magicbeans on October 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM

F*ck off, GOP butt-boy.

rrpjr on October 28, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Rubio: Actually, maybe a comprehensive approach isn’t the way to go on immigration right now I really screwed this up and thought I’d be able to get this past the hicks and hayseeds that contributed to my campaign. And now if I don’t want to be primaried I’m going to have to go right. I also realize now that I’m only going to be in the Senate for awhile. Ugh, I’m just really pissed.

FIFY.

PappyD61 on October 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Rubio: Actually, maybe a comprehensive approach isn’t the way to go on immigration right now Jeb told me this was a sure winner with the base, piss.

PappyD61 on October 28, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Reading around the interwebs gives me the feeling that Marco is going to get the same forgiveness as “Read my lips…..”. But Obama is still getting a pass on the keeping of your insurance policy and the $2300 premium reduction for families.

Cindy Munford on October 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM

He’s a witch! Burn him! BURN HIM!!!

/s

MJBrutus on October 28, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Go to hell, Marco.

Cicero43 on October 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Dont be fooled: the “approach” is utterly irrelevant. The “border security for amnesty” deal is in and of itself a sham, no matter how carefully you realize it.

Our problem is that we can only choose in this immigration debate between 50 shades of legalization. We move in the entirely wrong direction and moving a little slower so that you can tinker a little bit with the results is no acceptable alternative. In this situation obstruction is the best option we got.

Valkyriepundit on October 28, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Rubio is still my 2016 pick. U all can hate all day long!

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:30 PM

This

Rubio is still my 2016 pick. U all can hate all day long!

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:30 PM

He’s all yours, and yours alone. Enjoy him.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 1:39 PM

He should’ve checked w/ Ted Cruz first…

Karmi on October 28, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Rubio is as untrustworthy on this issue as Obama.

Texas Zombie on October 28, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 1:40 PM

But Obama is still getting a pass on the keeping of your insurance policy and the $2300 premium reduction for families.

Cindy Munford on October 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM

You proved, again, the difference btw. right and wrong.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Rubio is still my 2016 pick. U all can hate all day long!

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Wow. I checked out your blog. What a vapid, wordy pile of RINO excrement.

Thanks for the enlightenment!

JannyMae on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

I guarantee to you I’m not alone in my support of Rubio.

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

He should’ve checked w/ Ted Cruz first…

Karmi on October 28, 2013 at 1:39 PM

:):):)

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

I guarantee to you I’m not alone in my support of Rubio.

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

We know. There are a few more dummies out there.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I guarantee to you I’m not alone in my support of Rubio.

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

I guarantee you I’m not alone in my rejection of Rubio, aka Senator Amnesty.

Where do you live? I live in a state that’s being severely affected by illegal immigration, despite my governor fighting tooth and nail against Ovomit and his minions who refuse to enforce the laws.

JannyMae on October 28, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Rubio can give it up. He’s TOAST!

GarandFan on October 28, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Yep. There are plenty of amnesty loving ‘moderates’ out there who either need someone to mow their lawns, do their drywall, …. or are hoping that their abuela, their tio, or their primos can come norte and get on the gravy train.

LegendHasIt on October 28, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Ted Cruz is young, only 43.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 1:59 PM

I live in South Texas. I love my state!

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:59 PM

…but count on the Rs to fluke it up still.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 11:53 AM

And how. 2014 would be a tsunami for the GOP if they weren’t working so diligently to disgust their base and make them stay home, and not donate. GOP snatching defeat from the jaws of victory for over 100 years now.

DFCtomm on October 28, 2013 at 2:01 PM

This seems like a gun to head question at this point, but if the choice were Christie or Rubio for the nomination, I really wonder who the “grassroots” would pick at this point. Obviously, without a gun to the head, I assume most people would pick Option C (3rd Party) or Option D (stay home). But it’s amazing that Rubio has pretty much fallen to Christie RINO levels. The only thing that remains is a few talk radio guys like Levin fully turning against him – which I DO expect to happen if the Gang of 8 bill gets rammed through.

Personally, I hope Rubio just focuses and stays in the Senate. He’s done as a national figure and conservative voice. As much of a disappointment as he’s been with amnesty, I still think he’s as good as we can get in Florida.

cdog0613 on October 28, 2013 at 2:07 PM

It’s hard for a zebra to change its spots.

MaiDee on October 28, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I guarantee to you I’m not alone in my support of Rubio.

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Complaisancy is never alone. It’s often even legion. But this time, it’s not only outnumbered but out-determined. It’s not going to pass. Goodbye, RINOs. President Romney was your swan song.

rrpjr on October 28, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Piecemeal is fine, but beware the parties you are dealing with. Their motivations are wrapped up in self and ideology — no one gives a fig about “illegal aliens” as a group and anyone who claims to is lying and cheating.

The GOP outreach is nothing less than a sop to their donors in business who want another wave of cheap and hardworking labor — who doesn’t? — along with a recognition of the effectiveness of the political rhetoric from the treasonous vermin liberals, inciting what is really anti-American hatred among illegals.

“Vote Democrat – we hate America, too; help us change it!”

Medved (retch) likes to taunt his callers who are opposed by asking “Don’t you think e-Verify would be a good thing, to make sure employers do not hire illegals?” Well, yeah…sure. So how does that make me a supporter of amnesty? Pass e-Verify, you dope. But close the border, end anchor-babies, stop chain-migration, etc. etc. etc. And do not reward those who stole into the country with citizenship. They are all Democrat voters and for all the wrong reasons.

Want to expand immigration? Fine…good idea. End illegal immigration first, and go back to the pre-1968 formula for pro-rating new immigrants. Why would we want 75% of new citizens to be Hispanic? Do you liberals hate black people, white people, Asians?

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Above should all be in quotes.

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Weasel history

Schadenfreude on October 28, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Stick a fork in him; he’s done.

AZCoyote on October 28, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Marco, you’ve proven repeatedly that you are a liar and a fraud. Why should anyone ever trust you again?

bw222 on October 28, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Stick a fork in him; he’s done.

AZCoyote on October 28, 2013 at 2:28 PM

He was done months ago. It’s time to clean out the ‘fridge; that carcass stinks.

M240H on October 28, 2013 at 2:34 PM

This seems like a gun to head question at this point, but if the choice were Christie or Rubio for the nomination, I really wonder who the “grassroots” would pick at this point.
cdog0613 on October 28, 2013 at 2:07 PM

That’s an easy one. Many of the informed “grassroots” will choose the couch, or if they are the “let it burn” type they will vote straight Democrat and just get this collapse thing over with already.

DFCtomm on October 28, 2013 at 2:37 PM

I guarantee to you I’m not alone in my support of Rubio.

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Well ring-a-ding-ding. Y’all can have a quilting bee and make something to keep warm with since your a** is showing.

M240H on October 28, 2013 at 2:39 PM

SteveInRTP on October 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM

My Friend – We can’t allow him to McCain us.

antisocial on October 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM

I guarantee to you I’m not alone in my support of Rubio.
terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

It is not only in France that you will find idiotic socialists. There are plenty here.

antisocial on October 28, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Sorry Marco, the genie is out of the bottle.

Face it, you’re fvcked, and got rolled by your fellow Senate a$$clowns.

Thanks for playing.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on October 28, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Its funny how a politician “grows” when he adopts a liberal position. We should start using that language too. We don’t have to trust Rubio, but now we can say his position has “evolved” and he’s “grown” in wisdom and experience.

We need to make adopting our views a positive not a negative.

As for Rubio, he’s got to do penance because he claimed our view, dumped us, and now has come crawling back.

Iblis on October 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM

They’re working on “consensus” right now which is threatening members with a barrage of negative attack ads from ethnic advocacy groups if they don’t vote for amnesty.

Wigglesworth on October 28, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Nothing Congress does should be “comprehensive”. That’s just code for too big to read and understand, can’t possibly know everything that’s in it. “Comprehensive” bills contain phrases like “The Secretary shall determine” more times than you can count. A “comprehensive” 2000-page bill will turn into 200,000 pages of regulations spread across all areas of the Executive branch.

“Comprehensive” = “Ever-growing, always-bigger federal government.”

“Comprehensive” = “Huge, rapidly-growing, malignant, inoperable tumor that will kill the patient.”

“Comprehensive” = “Reprehensible.”

Marcola on October 28, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Immigration is broken and needs fixing badly. But most of the changes in the Schumer bill were for the worse, not the better.

Border security isn’t perfect, but has improved somewhat. We need to remember that the border is only a small part of needed “enforcement.” The biggest problems now are the failure to track expired visas for students and tourists, the day visitors from Mexico who just don’t leave, and the e-Verify employment system which has been tested and is ready to be implemented in 18 months at the most (not ten years as promised by Schumer-Rubio). Also, we need to change back from family chain immigration to skill-based immigration, and set limits by nation with a preference for developed industrial nations and close allies.

But I didn’t write off Rubio for our policy differences on this. I can forgive honest disagreement on almost any issue. I can’t forgive lying, which Rubio did serially about this bill and its provisions and effects. He also told one story in Spanish to those audiences and another in English. He can’t be trusted, period. No matter what he does now, he’s a liar.

Adjoran on October 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Too late Senor Rubio…

You showed your colors when you told Anglos one thing and told Amigos another.

In this brave new world Youtube is forever.

workingclass artist on October 28, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Rubio is still my 2016 pick. U all can hate all day long!

terryannonline

Stupid is as stupid does.

xblade on October 28, 2013 at 5:09 PM

And don’t be fooled. He hasn’t changed on anything. He still wants amnesty.

xblade on October 28, 2013 at 5:11 PM

I’ll give the guy one thing … he sure can see which way the political winds blow!!!!

During his Senate primary campaign he ran on no amnesty.

Then after getting elected he was a champion of amnesty as a member of the Gang of Eight, but after getting hammered in the polls, he now tucks his tail and reverses course once more. Why would anyone vote for a weather vane?????

Why would ANYONE be so foolish, stupid, and idiotic to vote for or support a weather vane? Sh!t, any cretin can hold his wet finger in the air and judge today’s political winds. What we should elect to office are candidates with principles and spines.

Rubio, McCain, et al — TAKE A HIKE, AZZWIPES!

You are representing foreign invaders instead of 20 million unemployed American citizens!!!

(darn it, I am on the ceiling over amnesty shills – hope my epithet doesn’t get me banned, but they deserve it)

fred5678 on October 28, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I guarantee to you I’m not alone in my support of Rubio.

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

I live in South Texas the Colonias. I love my state!

terryannonline on October 28, 2013 at 1:59 PM

just to be clear…

workingclass artist on October 28, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Liar, liar, polls on fire…

David Blue on October 29, 2013 at 7:13 AM