Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on October 27, 2013 by Allahpundit

Foolishly, I thought this morning would be all about the Healthcare.gov apocalypse. Nope. It’s on the menu — Steve Beshear and John Kasich will do some Dem/GOP squabbling over O-Care on “Meet the Press” — but the guests this week are heavy on natsec hawks: Mike Rogers on “State of the Union,” Peter King on “Meet the Press,” and Dick Cheney in the featured segment on “This Week.” Expect oodles of skepticism about nuke negotiations with Iran and the damage that’s done to the U.S./Saudi partnership. Here’s a sneak preview of what Cheney will say, in case you can’t guess.

If you’re less interested in all of that than you are in the RINO/tea party civil war, keep an eye on Bobby Jindal’s segment on “Fox News Sunday.” He just launched a nonprofit devoted to advancing conservative policy ideas, replete with a veiled shot at PACs like American Crossroads and Heritage Action on both sides of the GOP primary war:

But here’s the truth – Conservatives have failed to articulate and sell a national policy agenda to the country, a vision of what conservative policies can accomplish when put into practice.. We’ve detailed the awful things the Obama Administration has done, all the failings of the left, and we’ve pledged to undo as much of that as we can…

We’ve said what we are against. But shame on us if we don’t put pen to paper and begin selling the American public on a new policy direction for this country…

AMERICA NEXT is not focused on elections. We are not one of those groups that merely pretend to be focused on policy, but are actually focused on campaigns.

Jindal’s not afraid to criticize Republicans in fighting over the party’s brand. We’ll see what he thinks about Boehner, Cruz, and the “defund” effort. Here’s the full line-up from Politico.


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Jindal is kind of dull.

bluegill on October 27, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Saw Cheney on Hannity last week. He is looking well…

OmahaConservative on October 27, 2013 at 8:21 AM

avoid talking about obamacare, that is an order
-valerie email blast to dems/lsm

cmsinaz on October 27, 2013 at 8:25 AM

It’ll be interesting to see which side Jindal comes down on the Republican “feud.” …. Why in the world did they leave out the second “e” in the website (americanxt.org)?

Syzygy on October 27, 2013 at 8:26 AM

only talk about cruz and the dysfunction of the GOP…and only that
-valerie post script

cmsinaz on October 27, 2013 at 8:26 AM

disappointed with jindal…geez, whatever happened about the 11th commandment?

lsm will call him the new maverick before long…

cmsinaz on October 27, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Peter King is a disgrace.

doorsxp on October 27, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Peter King is a disgrace.

doorsxp on October 27, 2013 at 8:30 AM

and a fool…

OmahaConservative on October 27, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Peter King is a disgrace.

doorsxp on October 27, 2013 at 8:30 AM

and a fool…

OmahaConservative on October 27, 2013 at 8:32 AM

yup and yup

morning y’all

cmsinaz on October 27, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Mornin’ CMS…

OmahaConservative on October 27, 2013 at 8:35 AM

I wonder if Toni Townes Whitley will be the center of attention on MTP with DNC Dave for squandering a half billion on the zero care website that wont/don’t work. Nahhhh… she wasted more than that on a Canadian gun registration site –two billion– that didn’t work. She’s black has African connections and hates whitey so its OK.I forgot.

rodguy911 on October 27, 2013 at 8:37 AM

If not for natsec it would have been UmpireGate– anything to deflect from KevorkianCare.

hillsoftx on October 27, 2013 at 8:37 AM

hillsoftx on October 27, 2013 at 8:37 AM

yepper…
switched over to msdnc real quick….circkets about obamacare…

cmsinaz on October 27, 2013 at 8:45 AM

AMERICA NEXT is not focused on elections. We are not one of those groups that merely pretend to be focused on policy, but are actually focused on campaigns.

Uh, campaigns for what? Cause, campaigns are usually associated with elections in politics-speak.

oryguncon on October 27, 2013 at 8:49 AM

And yet this is the same “unbiased” media that the GOP was hoping would be focusing on Obamacare’s problems if Ted Cruz had not come along.

Right?

SMH…

TheRightMan on October 27, 2013 at 9:06 AM

lets not talk about obamacare but why the gop wants sebelius to be fired instead…

shaking the head…

anyway to bash the gop candy…way to go

cmsinaz on October 27, 2013 at 9:23 AM

holy cow….they only want to talk about the gop trying to stop obamacare instead of the boondoggle instead….

ugh

cmsinaz on October 27, 2013 at 9:23 AM

What does “accountable” mean in the context of Healthcare.gov or government contracting, in general… they are not going to give money back and can they be gaoled? What would be next: public shaming?

ExpressoBold on October 27, 2013 at 9:24 AM

These people on FNS are just babbling… there is NO SUBSTANCE being discussed here!

ExpressoBold on October 27, 2013 at 9:28 AM

And yet this is the same “unbiased” media that the GOP was hoping would be focusing on Obamacare’s problems if Ted Cruz had not come along.
Right?
SMH…
TheRightMan on October 27, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Exactly.

bluegill on October 27, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Can’t see forest for trees syndrome: the yipyappers on FNS are talking entirely about the Individual Mandate and it’s catastrophic implementation and ignoring the coming catastrophe of The Employer Mandate in about a year. If you think this has been fun, wait until the cataclysm of that Øbamacare requirement.

ExpressoBold on October 27, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

…No Senile Senator or Senator Skirt South Carolina?….they getting penile implants this weekend?

KOOLAID2 on October 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM

When you were young you read about propaganda in the WWII era and like me you probably wondered what kind of a people would accept lies and one-sided misrepresentation from a supposedly objective news press.

Well, my friends, wonder no more … it’s you! With an occasional feint to provide plausible deniability, what you get week in, week out from the government-regulated “network” news media is routinely biased tripe from people who all belong to one political party and viewpoint, and work aggressively to advance both.

It will continue until you refuse to allow it anymore:

“Meet the Press” on NBC
• Liberal
• RINO
• Populist
• Conservative

“Face the Nation” on CBS
• Conservative
• Liberal

“This Week” on ABC
• Conservative
• Conservative
• Liberal
• Kook Liberal

“Fox News Sunday” on Fox
• Conservative
• Republican
• Racist Liberal

“State of the Union” on CNN
• RINO
• Republican
• Liberal

“Political Capital” on Bloomberg TV
• Republican

“Newsmakers” on C-SPAN
• RINO

“Al Punto” on Univision
• Republican
• Liberal

I ask you all, who have followed HotAir’s Sunday gabfest lineup for some time: Do you ever remember this kind of representation of the views of the center-right? I can’t. Even given that every show is moderated by a liberal Democrat, and all except Fox are run by activist, propagandist liberals … this is an extraordinary departure.

Wonder what’s up?

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 9:55 AM

…No Senile Senator or Senator Skirt South Carolina?….they getting penile implants this weekend?

KOOLAID2 on October 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM

I feel like I’m in Bizarro World. Something’s definitely up with this upside-down-world lineup.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Uh… what was the film George Will mentioned? I lost track of it in my gray matter.

ExpressoBold on October 27, 2013 at 9:59 AM

And yet this is the same “unbiased” media that the GOP was hoping would be focusing on Obamacare’s problems if Ted Cruz had not come along.

TheRightMan on October 27, 2013 at 9:06 AM

lets not talk about obamacare but why the gop wants sebelius to be fired instead…

shaking the head…

anyway to bash the gop candy…way to go

cmsinaz on October 27, 2013 at 9:23 AM

holy cow….they only want to talk about the gop trying to stop obamacare instead of the boondoggle instead….

cmsinaz on October 27, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Asked and answered. If the Democrats have no choice but to acknowledge the disaster caused by their own idiotic policies, then you can’t have them on your show. Instead, fill the show with the Republicans, and even — uuugggghhhhh!?! — conservatives, and then spin the world on it’s head by grilling them about trying to stop this manifest disaster from happening.

Blame them for the policy that not one of them voted to enact.

It’s brilliant. But it’s propaganda, my friends. And only you can stop it.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 10:06 AM

How can there be trash talking of Ted Cruz without McCain or Graham lecturing us on some Sunday show or another? That’s like Christmas without a Santa.

But seriously, why a bye week for the annoying twosome?

Happy Nomad on October 27, 2013 at 10:07 AM

This country would never had been created if our founders had had the same mind set as those who opposed Cruz saying it was a fool’s errand and had no chance. When all is at stake, and trying is all you’ve got, go for it. I’m not sure Cruz lost the point he was trying to make. Of course, he knew the votes weren’t there, but boy, did he get oscare exposed.

Kissmygrits on October 27, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Exchange frustrations

A group of individuals and small employers have sued the federal government over the legality of an Internal Revenue Service decision that subsidies can be given to people in states that don’t operate their own health insurance exchange. The group’s frustration is that because of the IRS ruling, they will have to pay penalties that they wouldn’t be forced to pay if they didn’t receive the subsidies.

On Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Paul Friedman ruled against the federal government’s motion to dismiss the lawsuit. However, the judge also refused to grant a preliminary injunction blocking the subsidies as requested by the plaintiffs. His reasoning was that the case should conclude prior to the February 2014 deadline for individuals to purchase insurance to avoid paying penalties.

Fool.com

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 27, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Uh… what was the film George Will mentioned? I lost track of it in my gray matter.

ExpressoBold on October 27, 2013 at 9:59 AM

My struggling gey matter th7nks it was titled
“Someone Elses’s Life” or very close to that.
No time to look around for it, but that’s the best I can do for now.

pambi on October 27, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Sorry for the typos, in a hurry.
*gray matter
*thinks.

pambi on October 27, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Why do I get daily emails from Jonathan Garthwaite of Townhall.Com? I never signed up for anything there, nor am I registered…

OmahaConservative on October 27, 2013 at 10:15 AM

on Fox news Chris Wallace this a.m. they showed a clip of Sebelius being asked if she should resign. She said that the majority of people asking for her resignation were people she didn’t work for!? Who does she think she works for? The stench of arrogance and elitism is nauseating.

fullogas on October 27, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Why do I get daily emails from Jonathan Garthwaite of Townhall.Com? I never signed up for anything there, nor am I registered…

OmahaConservative on October 27, 2013 at 10:15 AM

I get those also. Hmm.

esr1951 on October 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Wonder what’s up?

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 9:55 AM

While I was reading your lineup, before I got to the above quote, I was saying the same thing. Something is going on in the media.

Oldnuke on October 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM

I feel like I’m in Bizarro World. Something’s definitely up with this upside-down-world lineup.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 9:57 AM

… and…we always appreciate your lineup!

KOOLAID2 on October 27, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Peter King is a disgrace.

doorsxp on October 27, 2013 at 8:30 AM

and a fool…

OmahaConservative on October 27, 2013 at 8:32 AM

The great news is that one negates the other. King is so obviously a fool that we can’t take any blame for him. He only disgraces himself.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM

… and…we always appreciate your lineup!

KOOLAID2 on October 27, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Thanks, K2 … it’s a labor of hate.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Why do I get daily emails from Jonathan Garthwaite of Townhall.Com? I never signed up for anything there, nor am I registered…

OmahaConservative on October 27, 2013 at 10:15 AM

I get those also. Hmm.

esr1951 on October 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM

They go to my junkbox and I have never opened one, but still…

OmahaConservative on October 27, 2013 at 10:33 AM

While I was reading your lineup, before I got to the above quote, I was saying the same thing. Something is going on in the media.

Oldnuke on October 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM

cmsinaz and TheRightMan did the painful work of watching to see how this failed. And as has happened in the past when conservatives were invited to the party, it was only to make fun of them.

When airing your own idiotic opinions fails to advance your agenda, ridicule your opponent instead. Apparently this is Rule #3 for the Liberal / DNC / Network News Media Propaganda Machine.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Uh… what was the film George Will mentioned? I lost track of it in my gray matter.

ExpressoBold on October 27, 2013 at 9:59 AM
My struggling gey matter th7nks it was titled
“Someone Elses’s Life” or very close to that.
No time to look around for it, but that’s the best I can do for now.

pambi on October 27, 2013 at 10:12 AM

“The Lives of Others” about life under surveillance in the old East Germany?

Wethal on October 27, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Even when faced with an objective or even conservative interviewer, Democrats are better at changing the interview topic around and getting their message out. I’ve asked myself many times, where did that come from, it wasn’t what they asked. Next thing you know, it’s a liberal commercial for the “War on Women” or “Tea Party Crazies”.

Republicans for the most part don’t do this well at all. They still very much fear the press.

smoothsailing on October 27, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Sorry jaibones, I was referring to this comment you made.

smoothsailing on October 27, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Mornin’

annoyinglittletwerp on October 27, 2013 at 10:52 AM

got it.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Face the Nation is running out the clock today by focusing on the JFK assassination. Let’s go with 50 year old news, eh Bob?

DarthBrooks on October 27, 2013 at 10:52 AM

This country would never had been created if our founders had had the same mind set as those who opposed Cruz saying it was a fool’s errand and had no chance.

Kissmygrits on October 27, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Just for the record, the Founders (who had the mindset you describe) were outnumbered 2-1. In other words, 67% of the colonists were loyal to the King.

Sort of makes the successful Revolution seem miraculous.

platypus on October 27, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Republicans for the most part don’t do this well at all. They still very much fear the press.

smoothsailing on October 27, 2013 at 10:44 AM

I have been saying for years that the most conservative Senator has more in common with Chuck Schumer than with me. So while we hate the media liberals and view them as inherently corrupt and biased, the Republicans are sometimes-buddies with these vermin and their less ideological brethren on K Street.

We want them all to drive into the Potomac during a flood, but the Republicans are perfectly happy to use them or become them when they leave office. The rare True Believer needs to campaign to stop politicians from lobbying when they leave office. This is one of the root causes to our fiscal problems.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Was Johnny Mc too “depressed” to do his normal soft shoe..? Or Peter King taking over his act..?

d1carter on October 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Brit Hume got in Juan’s face about Obama’s promise “If you like yoh policy, you can keep yoh policy.”

More important, when Juan tried to argue that people getting dumped from individual policies were getting better coverage for lower cost, Wallace would have NONE of it. He tried to correct Juan once, then skipped to another panel member. Then he circled back to cite an example of an Oregon business owner and his wife who were getting “better coverage” along with dramatic increases in co-pays for visits to a specialist, which the wife requires, a large increase in their annual deductible, and either a doubling or tripling of their premium. I’ve never seen Wallace bring down the hammer like that.

One thing I wish commentators would flesh out is the substance of these new Obamacare policy-provision mandates. I’d like to see specifics, and I’d like to see Democrats explain why people have to pay for things that they don’t need–especially things most people don’t need. All they’re doing is artificially inflating the premium for some to subsidize others. I think this is something the media is keeping quiet, and it’s something that will p*ss off young people. Why should a single male pay for maternity coverage? Why should most people pay for drug or alcohol rehab? Isn’t there something about gender-change too? It’s absurd.

BuckeyeSam on October 27, 2013 at 11:07 AM

cmsinaz and TheRightMan did the painful work of watching to see how this failed. And as has happened in the past when conservatives were invited to the party, it was only to make fun of them.

When airing your own idiotic opinions fails to advance your agenda, ridicule your opponent instead. Apparently this is Rule #3 for the Liberal / DNC / Network News Media Propaganda Machine.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Glad they watched it. I can’t really stand watching these shows anymore for just the reasons you stated. Caught a few minutes of O’Reilly a couple of nights ago. He had some left wing hack on talking about Obamacare. Asked a straight up question and the hack diverted and went right into some spiel about something else. Bill O made a couple of feeble attempts to get the guy back on track and then just let it slide. After the hack had left he made the comment “I never did get an answer.” Well from my perspective he just let the guy get away with it instead of calling him out. I quit watching right there.

Oldnuke on October 27, 2013 at 11:07 AM

“The Lives of Others” about life under surveillance in the old East Germany?

Wethal on October 27, 2013 at 10:42 AM

.
That’s it! Thanks…

ExpressoBold on October 27, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Sort of makes the successful Revolution seem miraculous.

platypus on October 27, 2013 at 10:59 AM

From what I’m seeing these days they wasted their time, treasure and lives to make freedom available to undeserving useless looters and slugs. That’s what we, as a nation, seem to have devolved into.

Oldnuke on October 27, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Franklin, said ‘a republic if you can keep it’ but instead we put up the equivalent of ‘wet Tories’ and ‘scalawags’ saying this is the best we got.

narciso on October 27, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Mornin’

annoyinglittletwerp on October 27, 2013 at 10:52 AM

… morning talking head!

KOOLAID2 on October 27, 2013 at 11:34 AM

(:->)

KOOLAID2 on October 27, 2013 at 11:39 AM

The idiotically divisive Republicans need to read their Ben Franklin.

We must indeed all hang together, or we shall most assuredly be hanged separately.”

The Dems understand this, the RINOs epically fail.

profitsbeard on October 27, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I quit watching right there.

Oldnuke on October 27, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Exactly. When you get to the end and ask yourself “why didn’t O’Reilly push to get an answer…doesn’t he want to expose the truth?” just remember … no, he just wants to have a TV show that people watch. That’s all that’s in it for him. Million$ and notoriety.

No one comes away from his show respecting his opinions or thinking they learned anything … on either side of the aisle.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 12:21 PM

After the hack had left he made the comment “I never did get an answer.” Well from my perspective he just let the guy get away with it instead of calling him out. I quit watching right there.

Oldnuke on October 27, 2013 at 11:07 AM

I used to love to watch Leon Panetta years ago when he’d go on the Sunday shows. Someone would ask him a question that was “uncomfortable” for the administration, and he’d be off to the races. He’d talk – artfully and eloquently – for 10 minutes straight…and never once even approach the subject of the original question. He was an absolute master at that!
(And I say that as someone who despises democRATs – but credit where it’s due.)

Solaratov on October 27, 2013 at 12:34 PM

From what I’m seeing these days they wasted their time, treasure and lives to make freedom available to undeserving useless looters and slugs. That’s what we, as a nation, seem to have devolved into.

Oldnuke on October 27, 2013 at 11:09 AM

For generations, now, too many people have believed that we are free becaused we’re “entitled” to be free. Those who would enslave us have done a wonderful job of persuading Americans that Freedom does not have to be fought for by every generation, but will just naturally continue if we’ll “just leave it up to our betters”.

Solaratov on October 27, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Wonder what’s up?

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 9:55 AM

Thank you so much for providing this service, faithfully.

While I was reading your lineup, before I got to the above quote, I was saying the same thing. Something is going on in the media.

Oldnuke on October 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Here it is:

1. Snowden is the greatest nightmare number One for obama.

2. Syria is the Second greatest nightmare for obama – Putin now ‘moreal’ leader of the world, because obama made it so.

3. obama’care’, now called the ACA by obama/Carney, but don’t let them, is the Third greatest nightmare for obama

The media could no longer escape such obvious/blatant idiocies and woke up to the realization that what they consume in obama’s azz is indeed NOT Beluga caviar.

Schadenfreude couldn’t be greater at all of them.

As he goes to Hell, so do they, for the best of reasons.

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Putin now ‘moral‘ leader…

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Forgot the elephant in the room – the Cruz factor.

He makes the left/right sizzle and I couldn’t love it more.

He and Sen. Lee exposed all the leeches, from both sides. That they exposed the right ones is superb.

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Here it is:

1. Snowden is the greatest nightmare number One for obama.

2. Syria is the Second greatest nightmare for obama – Putin now ‘moreal’ leader of the world, because obama made it so.

3. obama’care’, now called the ACA by obama/Carney, but don’t let them, is the Third greatest nightmare for obama

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Sigh. Obama doesn’t care about any of these things.

Alinsky tells him to push things into chaos. He thinks our system is broken.

faraway on October 27, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Happy anniversary, president obama.

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 1:50 PM

faraway on October 27, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Just for the HA record – I typed about the media, in response to Jaibones/Oldnuke.

You know what I know/think of obama…clinically NPD’d, in the worst of ways.

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Yea, I quit watching after many, many years when all he did many, many times per week was say, “Let’s give the president the benefit of the doubt.” Buh bye, Ted Baxter.

msupertas on October 27, 2013 at 2:09 PM

The entire obama administration

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 2:26 PM

I can understand Becera lying because Obampelosi has their boot to his throat, but how the heck much does Fox have to pay Juan Williams to spout such unmitigated bs?

NOMOBO on October 27, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Meanwhile

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Meanwhile

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Thanks. I was eating when I went to that link. It took a few minutes to clean the vomit off my tablet.

NOMOBO on October 27, 2013 at 2:57 PM

He and Sen. Lee exposed all the leeches, from both sides. That they exposed the right ones is superb.

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Yes they did & it was awesome. Well, it appears we have another one to add to the list. Even tho he’s not in Congress now and I hope he won’t be.

Seems like Santorum had to have some face time on Meet the Press this morning & bash Senator Cruz.

Appearing on NBC’s Meet the Press, former Pennsylvania Senator and 2012 presidential candidate Rick Santorum bashed Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX), saying that Cruz’s crusade against Obamacare had ben counterproductive. “I would say in the end, he did more harm. I think it was not his objective,” Santorum said.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/27/Santorum-Cruz

bluefox on October 27, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Cheney and Bush destroyed the Republican brand, I am not interested in anything they would ever have to say again.

echosyst on October 27, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 1:18 PM And Others…

As a side note to our Sunday ritual of flaying the networks for their corruption, I am increasingly impressed by the one Democrat who week-in, week-out performs the rare and seemingly difficult job of actual journalism, Chris Wallace.

We routinely remind people that he is almost certainly a liberal Democrat, but the truth is who knows? And I am certain that he has never claimed to be that, and probably would say he has no party affiliation and no particular ideology — because a journalist really can’t think in those terms.

But he is. And yet … you would never know that by watching him at work. He is a master moderator and relentlessly takes the position of interrogator against whomever he is interviewing. No free passes for either side, that I can see. Hats off to you, Chris Wallace. You make the other five look like the idiots we know them to be.

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM

bluefox on October 27, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Scroom him, in a bad way, then pour lemon juice on it.

He’s no better than Huckabee and Rove.

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Jaibones on October 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM

They all are people too, but you are totally right.

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 5:22 PM

RIP Lou Reed.

xblade on October 27, 2013 at 6:14 PM

bluefox on October 27, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Scroom him, in a bad way, then pour lemon juice on it.

He’s no better than Huckabee and Rove.

Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 5:21 PM

They just keep coming out of the woodwork. Cruz Spray:-)

bluefox on October 27, 2013 at 6:48 PM