LA Times: Middle-class Californians feeling surprised, dismayed by higher ObamaCare costs

posted at 5:01 pm on October 27, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

California was both the first and largest state to commit to building their own state-specific individual marketplace rather than working through the still mostly-busted federal exchange, and the launch of their Covered California site has been relatively smoother than most (although not without its own problems). Like the Obama administration, California is reporting an encouraging amount of traffic but doesn’t plan to release its actual enrollment numbers until mid-November — but in the meantime, the middle-class Californians checking out their new healthcare “options” are feeling a little bit perturbed about what they’re seeing. Via the Los Angeles Times:

“This is when the actual sticker shock comes into play for people,” said Gerald Kominski, director of the UCLA Center for Health Policy Research. “There are winners and losers under the Affordable Care Act.”

Fullerton resident Jennifer Harris thought she had a great deal, paying $98 a month for an individual plan through Health Net Inc. She got a rude surprise this month when the company said it would cancel her policy at the end of this year. Her current plan does not conform with the new federal rules, which require more generous levels of coverage.

Now Harris, a self-employed lawyer, must shop for replacement insurance. The cheapest plan she has found will cost her $238 a month. She and her husband don’t qualify for federal premium subsidies because they earn too much money, about $80,000 a year combined.

“It doesn’t seem right to make the middle class pay so much more in order to give health insurance to everybody else,” said Harris, who is three months pregnant. “This increase is simply not affordable.”

Gee, no kidding. The LA Times reports that California is home to more than two million individually insured residents, and that hundreds of thousands of them are receiving cancellation notices on their current plans and getting booted into the exchange where they’ll need to pay an average of 30 percent more for their new premiums. How anybody ever managed to convince themselves that none of this would have a net negative economic impact and indeed act as a new tax on the middle class, I’m sure I’ll never know.


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Who did they think was going to pay? And they keep voting.

smoothsailing on October 28, 2013 at 6:32 AM

Who did they think was going to pay?

smoothsailing on October 28, 2013 at 6:32 AM

People they didn’t know and didn’t care about.

David Blue on October 28, 2013 at 6:41 AM

People they didn’t know and didn’t care about.

David Blue on October 28, 2013 at 6:41 AM

Isn’t it infuriating when you actually answer rhetorical questions about liberals and other stupid entitlement voting fellow Americans. You’re right. These people either think there’s a money tree out there somewhere or enough rich people to perpetually pay for what democrats promise them. That or they know this will continue to ruin individual budgets, our economy and they just live in the present thinking, “I got mine.”

smoothsailing on October 28, 2013 at 6:52 AM

How anybody ever managed to convince themselves that none of this would have a net negative economic impact and indeed act as a new tax on the middle class, I’m sure I’ll never know.

I’ll tell you how – All they heard was – You can keep your plan!!! it will go down by $2500!! Your kids can stay on your insurance!!! Pre-existing conditions!!! Magical UNICORNS!!!

Only conservatives were actually thinking it through logically and running the numbers and facing the reality of ECONOMICS –

The whole thing makes me sick.

I was lambasted on Facebook after the Supreme Court decision. Bastxards….

djl130 on October 28, 2013 at 7:00 AM

Never let a crisis go to waste. Single payer here we come.

Last grip of the lifeline, Nov elections. Beyond that……

R Square on October 28, 2013 at 7:17 AM

Rogerb, its true. But some folks don’t have a natural head or disposition to save.I’m more the adventurous, lets make a memory kind of person. My guy is a level headed, sensible type so he handles the finances and that’s fine by me. In return I made an amazing bacon wrapped meatloaf tonight, win-win!

libfreeordie on June 25, 2012 at 11:20 PM

So basically, you’re too irresponsible to take care of yourself, so you expect others to take care of you. And you think meat loaf makes your contribution equal to the one from the person who drags your sorry self through life. How completely unsurprising.

DrMagnolias on October 28, 2013 at 7:27 AM

djl130 on October 28, 2013 at 7:00 AM

Unfriending people can be a liberating experience.

DrMagnolias on October 28, 2013 at 7:28 AM

They make 80,000 a year combined and can’t be bothered to pay an additional $40 a month?

libfreeordie on October 27, 2013 at 6:18 PM

And here we have the usual arrogant ignorance of the socialist on full display.

First of all it’s $140.00 more (did you fail at math as well as spelling and grammar?) and you have absolutely no right to make decisions about other people’s finances.

Oh that’s right, eighty grand makes them “rich” and fair game to be looted in your utopia.

dogsoldier on October 28, 2013 at 7:47 AM

They make 80,000 a year combined and can’t be bothered to pay an additional $40 a month?

libfreeordie on October 27, 2013 at 6:18 PM

they should be willing to pay more for this. They should be willing to pay more taxes, they should be willing to pay more in fees, they should be willing to struggle under more regulations.

Don’t you understand, it’s all for the common good? If we all just did what the gov’t wanted, we’d live in utopia – with no poverty, no sickness, no unhappiness, no unemployment and no death.

Just let your betters on the left run things. they have a five-year plan. It’ll all work out perfectly.

Lord, you conservatives are such ignorant neanderthals. You just don’t understand science.

Monkeytoe on October 28, 2013 at 7:53 AM

They make 80,000 a year combined and can’t be bothered to pay an additional $40 a month?

libfreeordie on October 27, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Of course, the promises that you could keep you plan, pay less, keep your doctor – you don’t care about the myriad lies used to pass the thing. That’s all for the cause. Lying is noble when done to further the leftist agenda.

Obama – it’s OK that he is completely dishonest about everything, because it’s for the left!!

Monkeytoe on October 28, 2013 at 8:11 AM

Data from the first full year of enrollment in the Commonwealth Care plans in Massachusetts shows that the number of people who purchased premium plans was minuscule at first, with a rate of increase of only 123 people in February 2007. That surged to 3,645 in April and then remained fairly steady all year, before spiking to 7,783 in the month before the penalty deadline for remaining uninsured kicked in

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/the-tortoise-the-hare-and-the-massachusetts-lesson-for-obamacare/280849/

libfreeordie on October 28, 2013 at 8:38 AM

$80,000 a year isn’t all that much in California.

claudius on October 28, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Libfree, you guys blew your chance to have Romney in charge of healthcare. Nice wish casting with your Atlantic article, but it’s too late. The premiums are the thing. Regardless of healthcare in Mass, people hate your double and triple premiums with the ACA rollout.

smoothsailing on October 28, 2013 at 8:49 AM

“It doesn’t seem right to make the middle class pay so much more in order to give health insurance to everybody else,” said Harris, who is three months pregnant. “This increase is simply not affordable.”

Where did she get her law degree, from a cereal box?

Honey, someone has to pay, and it ain’t the unemployed, and it ain’t going to be the people with the big bucks, they are the ones who have “hired” the law makers.

Ad Carville once so brilliantly stated…It’s the economy stupid!

And, btw, the economy is the middle class, STUPID!!

right2bright on October 28, 2013 at 8:50 AM

They make 80,000 a year combined and can’t be bothered to pay an additional $40 a month? No one has suffered like these people have suffered.

libfreeordie on October 27, 2013 at 6:18 PM

The irony!!

They live in California, the bastion of liberal thought and ideas.

$80,000 you can barely live on in California, they pay so much in entitlements and government pensions.

This is what liberal policies do, suck from the people who do make money, to give to the leeches who don’t…like you.

This is your life in a few years, you better start making $80,000 a year flipping burgers or you will be owing so much taxes and you won’t know what to do…except ask for the government to give you more money.

right2bright on October 28, 2013 at 8:55 AM

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/the-tortoise-the-hare-and-the-massachusetts-lesson-for-obamacare/280849/

libfreeordie on October 28, 2013 at 8:38 AM

ObamaCare isn’t RomneyCare. I know there is a desperate attempt to cling to RomneyCare in hopes that people start making awful economic decisions for themselves, but it ain’t gonna happen.

1.) 90% of Massachusettsians had insurance prior to RomneyCare, and they kept their insurance after RomneyCare without price increases or cancellations.

2.) RomneyCare has a public option for those who had trouble getting into a private plan.

3.) The RomneyCare penalty is actually enforceable.

RomneyCare picked up most of what was left of the very few uninsured and insured most of them (still 3% uninsured according to Massachusetts) without canceling everyone else’s plans, and without increasing their premiums by 50% or more, and their deductibles by 100% or more. You can fantasize all the way down the death spiral about how 7 million will sign up for ObamaCare on March 30th if you want, but the rest of us aren’t mentally deficient leftards who can’t seem to do anything useful except make bacon wrapped meatloaf (BLECH!).

BTW:

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

I’m not sure why you continue to post around here. You have demonstrated you’re an ignoramus of shocking porportions, and dishonest to the nth degree. Anyone with the least bit of shame would stop subjecting themselves to the beatings you receive on a regular basis. Maybe you should buy your boyfriend a studded whip for Christmas because you aren’t getting enough of what you want at home?

Over 1,600 hours now and you can’t even bring yourself to admit you were wrong. You do realize that is a character flaw, right?

NotCoach on October 28, 2013 at 8:55 AM

NotCoach on October 28, 2013 at 8:55 AM

He has no shame. After he spilled the beans about openly advocating sexual relations with minors, you would have thought he’d be too embarrassed to post here.

smoothsailing on October 28, 2013 at 9:00 AM

…..California…..it’s coming.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/08/13/how-obama-is-robbing-the-suburbs-to-pay-for-the-cities/

How Obama Is Robbing The Suburbs To Pay For The Cities

Political experts left and right agree: the coming election will be decided by America’s suburbanites. From Florida to Virginia on across the country, in every battleground state, they are the key demographic. All of which raises a question that has not been considered as yet, and ought to be: is President Obama’s re-election in the suburbanites’ interest? The answer emphatically is no.

As many Americans do not know, in the eyes of the leftist community organizers who trained Obama, suburbs are instruments of bigotry and greed — a way of selfishly refusing to share tax money with the urban poor. Obama adopted this view early on, and he has never wavered from this ideological commitment, as a review of his actions in office goes to show.

President Obama’s plans for a second-term include an initiative to systematically redistribute the wealth of America’s suburbs to the cities. It’s a transformative idea, and deserves to be fully aired before the election. But like a lot of his major progressive policy innovations, Obama has advanced this one stealthily–mostly through rule-making, appointment, and vague directives. Obama has worked on this project in collaboration with Mike Kruglik, one of his original community organizing mentors.

Kruglik’s new group, Building One America, advocates “regional tax-base sharing,” a practice by which suburban tax money is directly redistributed to nearby cities and less-well-off “inner-ring” suburbs. Kruglik’s group also favors a raft of policies designed to coerce people out of their cars and force suburbanites (with their tax money) back into densely packed cities.

PappyD61 on October 28, 2013 at 9:04 AM

You do realize that is a character flaw, right?

NotCoach on October 28, 2013 at 8:55 AM

You do realize you were assuming liberals had character?

Remember, character is the quality of doing what’s right, even when no one is looking. Liberals do what’s wrong, and if anyone ISN’T looking, they hold a protest to MAKE them look.

Gay rights!
Abortion on demand!
NAMBLA!
Viva Che!

The list never ends. They literally throw their hedonism and poor conduct into your face (and poor hygiene into your nose, but that’s a different post).

Wino on October 28, 2013 at 9:05 AM

As an aside, I do hope someone is tracking (1) how many of the folks getting new policies are people forced off their old policy and (2) how many folks getting new policies were previously uninsured because they could not obtain insurance and (3) how many uninsured remain (using the same counting method the liberals used in coming up with 30 million uninsured).

Over50 on October 28, 2013 at 9:18 AM

(3) how many uninsured remain (using the same counting method the liberals used in coming up with 30 million uninsured).

Over50 on October 28, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Their counting methodology will change next year when they realize ObamaCare is creating more uninsured.

NotCoach on October 28, 2013 at 9:21 AM

How anybody ever managed to convince themselves that none of this would have a net negative economic impact and indeed act as a new tax on the middle class, I’m sure I’ll never know.

I told you it was a tax –John “Benedict Arnold” Roberts

18-1 on October 28, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Let’s not forget that the premiums aren;t the only thing that is going up – Deductibles are through the roof. SO you get to pay more for insurance that won’t pay much of anything, ever.

And don’t go out of network – because it doesn’t count – and is covered not at all.

Zomcon JEM on October 28, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Obama’s NSA must have had something real good on Roberts…

PatriotRider on October 28, 2013 at 9:32 AM

President Obama’s plans for a second-term include an initiative to systematically redistribute the wealth of America’s suburbs to the cities. It’s a transformative idea, and deserves to be fully aired before the election.

I’ve often thought the Republicans should be looking to implement “city taxes”. Partly because they use up more resources from the government at all levels and mostly because the urban Obama voters keep telling us we should raise taxes.

Well…why not a 10% on all local budgets over say $1B?

These people want more taxes and spending…well let’s have them pay for it…

18-1 on October 28, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Obama’s NSA must have had something real good on Roberts…

I’ve said before, Roberts would have been seen as more honorable if he let *whatever* Obama was trying to blackmail him with come to light – the two things I’ve heard floated are that the way he adopted his kids wasn’t 100% legal and/or that like Obama he might have “experimented” with members of the same sex…

In either case, I don’t care…and I don’t think most other people would have either…

It might also finally stop the move of this Regime to use domestic spying on its political opponents.

18-1 on October 28, 2013 at 9:35 AM

PappyD61 on October 28, 2013 at 9:04 AM

It’s not coming to the People’s Republic of Mexifornia, it’s already here courtesy of Governor Moonbeam.

The Governor is already working on eliminating local redevelopment agencies used by local entities – and taking those funds for use elsewhere in the general budget…most likely towards either expanding government or rewarding / repaying his union buddies. This isn’t the first time either, in 2010-11, Ventura County lost $2 billion to the state’s seizure of funds which then went to the teacher’s union.

Effective the end of the year, all of the enterprise zones, special areas that offer businesses tax credits / breaks to encourage their expansion, retention, and hiring, are being eliminated. The loss of these will make it harder for those cities that have enterprise zones retain businesses in an increasingly anti-business environment in California.

And when the state isn’t taking money from the local counties or cities, they are passing down costs and expenses to them in the effort to ‘balance’ their budget. These costs and expenses are creating even more difficulty for these entities.

Bottom line is that California, after 35 years of the progressive agenda, is a leading indicator of what will happen across the country (not just Detroit or Illinois) if the agenda of Barack Obama is permitted to continue without opposition.

Athos on October 28, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Bottom line is that California, after 35 years of the progressive agenda, is a leading indicator of what will happen across the country (not just Detroit or Illinois) if the agenda of Barack Obama is permitted to continue without opposition.

Athos on October 28, 2013 at 9:37 AM

At least Detroit is an island within a state, and not the entire state. But the same thing will happen in California and Illinois that happened in Detroit: Mass exodus.

NotCoach on October 28, 2013 at 9:41 AM

I am so pleased that family members, colleagues and friends will have access to maternity coverage that every employer should provide on their own.

libfreeordie on October 27, 2013 at 6:23 PM

It’s so wonderful seeing liberals like you support a massive transfer of wealth from the poorer young to the richer old.

ObamaCare is one massive transfer of wealth away from the young and healthy.

Access to maternity coverage? Yeah, who do you think is paying for that? Access is “increased” because now ObamaCare demands it be covered (even for 60 year old women) and so everyone’s premiums will go up (as well as deductibles).

It really is astounding that liberals like you see free lunches behind every government program.

gwelf on October 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM

The LA Times reports that California is home to more than two million individually insured residents, and that hundreds of thousands of them are receiving cancellation notices on their current plans and getting booted into the exchange where they’ll need to pay an average of 30 percent more for their new premiums.

At least 500,000 and possibly as many as 1 million of these individually insured residents are going to lose their current coverage and be forced into the Covered California Obamacare exchange before the end of the year.

That’s between a quarter and half of those with individual insurance coverage.

This doesn’t include those who were formerly covered under their employer’s plan but will lose their coverage because their employer cancels the plan for pricing reasons, or lost their coverage because their jobs have been reclassified to under 30 hours per week. Those will make up more tens of thousands of CA individuals.

Furthermore, it defies any measure of logic to expect that mandating coverage regardless of pre-existing conditions (opens up adverse selection risks), in addition to mandated coverages even if they aren’t applicable to the insured (ie maternity coverage for a single 50+ male), to not result in premium increases.

None of this should be a surprise. We were lied to by the Administration and the media conspired to let the lie hit home – by attacking those who complained about the ACA as opposed to the fallacy that is the ACA.

Athos on October 28, 2013 at 9:48 AM

I am wondering how many that get booted off a plan they could afford get subsidies when before this they wouldn’t have, might be throwing off the HHS numbers, especially if they had insurance but don’t make a lot of money, like a lot of people who enjoyed mini plans.

Fleuries on October 28, 2013 at 9:55 AM

Heck I thought only those mean old rich Republicans would have to pay more, now as a true commie Democrat party liberal I am pissed at Obama cause he is supposed to make it easy for me and people like me for our votes. I think I will just quit and go grow mary jane in the National Forrest with the illegal Mexican Zetas, that will show’m.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 28, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Soon it will sink in to the febble brains of even those like, live free off others work, that middle class Democrats and even lower class Democrats will have to pay more,, then,,, the brain freeze will happen and for some time “error message” will appear before their poor eyes and ,,,,, “but” word will be the number one word from all liberals for a long time…..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 28, 2013 at 10:20 AM

just watch live free off other peoples work, it will be into “but” and change the subject total soon

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 28, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Communism is expensive if you’re one of the producers rather than one of the feeders.

CrustyB on October 28, 2013 at 10:28 AM

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”
H. L. Mencken

NoPain on October 28, 2013 at 11:02 AM

If you don’t get food stamps, you are middle class.

If you don’t use a housing voucher you are middle class.

If you don’t get a Pell Grant you are middle class.

If you don’t get subsidies for your insurance, or expect free Medicaid, you are middle class.

If you pay in more than other people and don’t “get a check,” you are middle class.

If other people all “qualify for” the same standard of living as you do, (a middle class lifestyle,) and don’t have to earn the money to pay for it, you are middle class.

Obama should stop telling me that people that get subsidies and Medicaid and EBT cards, food stamps, Earned Income credits and Pell Grants are the American Middle Class, it is bunk.

In MA, they added up all the non tax documented benefits that people can collect and it’s value is a 50K lifestyle, after taxes. The income needed to provide that lifestyle is more like $70-80K.

Ask any single person who gets a promotion: now they earn $60K and find they take home $34K. Earn $150K, take home $75K. Earn $200K take home $100K and this president thinks you are not paying your fair share. He also thinks your health insurance will cost you the same as your cable bill or your internet bill, yah, he is not grounded on this earth.

This government is cannibalizing the best and the brightest, and the middle class so they will never get ahead, a brick on the head of American achievers everywhere, in the name of nebulous income inequality.

Fleuries on October 28, 2013 at 11:09 AM

“It doesn’t seem right to make the middle class pay so much more in order to give health insurance to everybody else,” said Harris, who is three months pregnant. “This increase is simply not affordable.”

goodness, this is truly shocking!! no one has ever said this before!! especially not tea partiers. why didn’t anyone ever make this point before??/

Sachiko on October 28, 2013 at 11:11 AM

So many liberal voters thought it would be “free”. Glad they are getting a wake up call. Sad that we have to subsidize the wake up call.

samazf on October 28, 2013 at 11:16 AM

“There are winners and losers under the Affordable Care Act.”

Losers: The masses that claw our way to and from work every day – the producers of the fuel for the economic engine.

Winners: Those who don’t – the consumers.

Tsar of Earth on October 28, 2013 at 11:27 AM

obama always hates the middle class. …
Schadenfreude on October 27, 2013 at 5:11 PM

I’ve come to an unmentionable and unfortunate conclusion. Deep breath: He hates Whitey. And the middle class is where most of them are.

Tsar of Earth on October 28, 2013 at 11:35 AM

You own it now Cali. I see them as the first state run version of obummer care to go belly up because they are supporting an overabundance of non-citizens and illegals aliens. All those who had insurance are seeing the premiums increase by 2+. Take a big bite of a $hiite sandwich Cali, chew really hard.

jake49 on October 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM

The Affordable Care Act is only affordable for the people who go on Medicaid. I don’t think even the people who will get premium subsidies can afford this stuff considering the deductibles.

Cindy Munford on October 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM

80K per year … members of the 1%!! Bet they supported OWS too – lol

mel23059 on October 28, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Data from the first full year of enrollment in the Commonwealth Care plans in Massachusetts shows that the number of people who purchased premium plans was minuscule at first, with a rate of increase of only 123 people in February 2007. That surged to 3,645 in April and then remained fairly steady all year, before spiking to 7,783 in the month before the penalty deadline for remaining uninsured kicked in

 
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/the-tortoise-the-hare-and-the-massachusetts-lesson-for-obamacare/280849/
 
libfreeordie on October 28, 2013 at 8:38 AM

 
I’m sure that seemed like a really great link for a pro-Obamacare post at the time, but you’d do well to understand your limits when it comes to math and finances.
 
From your link:
 
36,167 cumulative enrollment
 
Let’s figure out percentages, shall we? Massachusetts has a population of 6.5M, so:
 
36,167 / 6,500,000 = 0.00556
 
0.0056 x 100 = 0.556%
 
0.556%
 
Zero point five tenths of one percent.
 
Or, written another way, 1/2 of 1% of the total population.
 
So we’re reducing our family grocery budgets, anticipating reduced quality of care, and spending billions of dollars (trillions at the federal level) to “help” significantly less than 1% of the population?
 

I *still* think though that its a doable expense.

 
libfreeordie on October 27, 2013 at 6:25 PM

 
Great point, professor. Thanks for your link.

rogerb on October 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM

This really serves them right. Stupid is as stupid does.

mmcnamer1 on October 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Data from the first full year of enrollment in the Commonwealth Care plans in Massachusetts shows that the number of people who purchased premium plans was minuscule at first, with a rate of increase of only 123 people in February 2007. That surged to 3,645 in April and then remained fairly steady all year, before spiking to 7,783 in the month before the penalty deadline for remaining uninsured kicked in

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/the-tortoise-the-hare-and-the-massachusetts-lesson-for-obamacare/280849/

libfreeordie on October 28, 2013 at 8:38 AM

First, the penalty was that you could not take a personal deduction in the first years of “Romney care,” which was in a list of deductions like, in MA, you could put your rent on a line and take a personal deduction for it, which made it a penalty. Now they turn you in and send you some kind of bill for your penalty.

In MA many of the plans were mini plans designed for very low income people, this state has 1. Gourmet medicine, which attracts users from all around the world 2. A high rate of coverage by large businesses resulting in 90% of the people having fairly nice insurance to begin with. The people without insurance were a very small number, a lot of times they were people who were unemployed and couldn’t pay for their COBRA but too wealthy to qualify for programs, illegal immigrants, who showed up at hospitals and received care without paying the bill, and the people in between Medicaid eligibility (Mass Health Basic and Essential and CHIPS.)

In MA they wanted to change a state that had 90% coverage into a single payer government system, for ideological purposes only. Over the last three years they have layered each new Obamacare requirement, eagerly over a good system, and made it even more expensive or “fairer” like, your copay has gone up, and your premium has risen too. And there is the ever persistent problem of paying for legal and illegal immigrants in MA.

Incidentally, the Romney plan specifically aimed at paying a little something toward your own private insurance, and they paid a small part too, which they called premium assistance. Then you got a mini plan, with a cap on benefits. It worked. The liberals went crazy when people abused their plans and went over their limits crying that it was unfair.

And when you hear that wait times to see a doctor are up, it is not possible to put MA in any category to compare it with the rest of the country. People fly in to MA for specialty care, it is not just residents of MA that get care here. When they say it is a year to see your GP, they mean when you schedule your yearly physical, it might be a year from today, but if you have strep throat, they will see you this afternoon. However, in terms of emergencies, the doctors rotate on weekends, having more customers now, means more emergencies, and you might be sent there, on the weekend or during the night, because the doctors who are not on call, work during the day/their shift.

Bill O’Reilly had Jonathan Gruber on tv last week, accomplishing nothing, but be warned he is a democrat who was there in government helping with Romney Care. Romney vetoed most of what the Grubers of this world put into the plan, and the dems over rode the veto. I can’t wait to have a majority Republican Senate so we can do that to Obama. To that end, vote for any living breathing republican, just one more time please.

Fleuries on October 28, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Kominski condescendingly comments that with ObamaCare “you’re paying more for a better product and for more protection, and you won’t understand the value of that until you need it.” Note to Kominski: most young people wil not need it.

Colony14 on October 28, 2013 at 11:09 PM

I live in CA and buy my own health insurance. My insurance Co (Anthem) sent me a letter about 3 weeks ago telling me that my insurance is grandfathered against Obamacare, for now…..I’m holding my breath and hoping against hope that I don’t get canceled. I’m healthy and pay about $270/mo.

Dollayo on October 29, 2013 at 3:46 AM

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