Video: ObamaCare meltdown raises serious questions about being unmanageable, says … David Gregory

posted at 12:01 pm on October 25, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Why should CBS have all the fun of pointing out the many facets of the ObamaCare disaster? Meet the Press host David Gregory tells Morning Joe that the epic faceplant of the rollout raises much larger questions than just whether a web portal can or will get fixed.  Republican predictions of disaster didn’t even include the incompetence in producing a $400 million website failure, Gregory says with a laugh.  Republicans predicted that the federal government was too incompetent to run the health-care sector — and this tends to prove they were right all along, and that proof gets stronger the longer the incompetence continues (via The Corner):

The bungled launch of Obamacare’s federal exchanges may be confirming Republicans’ various warnings about the health-care laws, says Meet the Press host David Gregory. He also said that Obamacare’s “caricature of incompetence” thus far may doom the law if the administration doesn’t address the problems soon.

Because of the website’s issues, Gregory said, the Obama administration may also miss out on the window to enroll younger people, who are crucial to the law’s success. “The question I think you’ll see more and more going into next year is, ‘Is this too big, too complicated for the federal government to administer?’” he said on Morning Joe on Friday.

The incompetence turns into dishonesty and opacity, which frustrates ACA supporter Josh Barro at Business Insider.  Barro participated in a CMS conference call yesterday, and came away with more questions and worry than when he started:

  • Battaille claimed not to know how many of those applications came from the 36 states that do not operate their own exchanges (meaning consumers are supposed to buy coverage by navigating HealthCare.gov). How is CMS figuring out a total number of applications if not by adding together reports from state exchanges and information from the federal exchange? If they won’t disclose the federal-only number, it’s presumably because it’s embarrassingly low and they don’t want it publicly known.
  • Battaille wouldn’t say who, aside from Jeff Zients, is involved in the “tech surge” that is supposed to bring in bright private sector tech talents to help fix the exchange. Ezra Klein noted yesterday the administration’s silence on this question, leading him to wonder whether “the scope of the surge is less impressive, and more insider-focused, than the administration is implying.” Is the tech surge just a PR strategy to demonstrate action on the website’s problems without having to give out more detail about them?
  • She wouldn’t say when CMS expects that the site will be working properly.
  • Twice, she declined to answer a question about whether Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius was aware of the system’s problems before launch.
  • She continued to emphasize website problems related to traffic (and therefore, vast consumer demand that demonstrates how great Obamacare’s benefits are) when reports in many outlets, including the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal, have relied on anonymous insurance industry sources to suggest that there are major problems in the exchange system’s backend, including providing incorrect application information to insurers, that aren’t related to traffic.

Barro concluded:

There’s no reason not to level with the public right now, unless the truth is so horrible and the website is so un-fixable that Obama administration officials can’t bring themselves to discuss the matter publicly. I suspect that’s not the case.

I’m not sure why Barro would suspect that other than wishful thinking, after the litany of spin he got from the conference call. The only reason not to level with the public would be because they don’t want people to know how bad this really is. If the truth was better than popular perception, CMS and the White House would be bombarding us with that data; after all, this isn’t an administration that gets shy about leaking data that makes them look good.  And if they didn’t share data that refutes the perception of disaster, that also speaks to incompetence, does it not?

Wishful thinking eventually meets reality. That moment is now upon the media, and Barro’s bright enough to recognize it soon.


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The AP, providing ‘objective’ reporting, again.

Die in obama’s azz, you incredible fools.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

I hope the HHA obama’care’, with Captain Nurse Ratched, aka Sibelius, go to Hell.

Yes, I want all of it to fail, and I’m very schadenfreudig about it.

If it fails, the land and her good people win.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

HHS obama’care – fifm

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

May the media, Obama and his cult of followers rot in hell…

PatriotRider on October 25, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Said David Gregory, whose only journalistic qualifications are that he has Nice Hair and is burrowed like a tick into His Most High Obamaship’s posterior (mind you, some qualifications are more important than others).

brushman on October 25, 2013 at 12:06 PM

It’s cool to be alive, to witness charlatanry, shoved down the throat of good American, in the darkness of night, to burn in the daytime, like mold dies in sunlight.

Schadenfreude pure!

Media, you incredible charlatanic swine, with apologies to the clean pigs, burn in Hell, along with HHS obama’care’.

Note that they, obama/Carney and their harlots in the media, no longer call it Obamacare.

Affordable – NOT

Care – NOT

Act – indeed, and act of treason against freedom, propriety, confidentiality, liberty

YOU so deserve this. May you all burn, slowly, sizzling. YOU lost all your credibility, forever. YOU don’t deserve the liberty you were given. YOU brought this travesty upon the land. Now, suffer the ridicule and mockery, the mediocrity you foisted upon the land.

It ain’t Beluga caviar. Suffocate from consuming obama’s shit, you fools.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I blame the State Run Media for allowing this government to bring so much pain to the American people…

d1carter on October 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

If Gregory doesn’t get a nasty call from the White House first over his comments, he’ll get one from NBC News President Steve Capus, telling him the only need one token conservative (or faux conservative) on the network, and that’s Florida Joe.

jon1979 on October 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

American = Americans

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

David Gregory: “Derp!? “

S. D. on October 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Based on testimony yesterday, Obama sabotaged the website 2 weeks before launch.

He told the developers to hide the prices. This made the website not stable, and was untested.

faraway on October 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

David is very sad – someone let the air out of his inflatable ‘obama love-doll’.

Pork-Chop on October 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

It looks like Democrats are in for an epiphany that Obamacare is just what the Republicans said, not sane legislation. Obama and Democrats lied and no we have a real medical insurance disaster, with rate hikes and millions more people who don’t have medical insurance coverage. Democrat heads should roll.

SC.Charlie on October 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

So was Fox News right all along, is that what you sayeth DG?

hillsoftx on October 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

The true believers in the State Run Media say it’s just a website, it’ll get better. Please sign up, please.

d1carter on October 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Watch yourself, David. Remember what happened to Erlene.
Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.

kingsjester on October 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM

David is very sad – someone let the air out of his inflatable ‘obama love-doll’. -Pork-Chop on October 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Pease, someone let me know when Chris Matthews has his epiphany.

SC.Charlie on October 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM

They are pushing back the doom date now into middle of December…..

d1carter on October 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM

The Lame Stream Media is finally trying to stay out in front of an important story. Too bad they’re only doing it so save face. They’ll get back in line soon enough though. All good things shall pass.

LeftCoastRight on October 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM

What’s up with this talk about “no reasonable expectation of privacy” hidden in the source code?

kunegetikos on October 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Could Republicans have been right all along?

Pretty much, but the real issue is that the Dems have been dead wrong about everything since day one.

antipc on October 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Pork-Chop on October 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Betcha it was sabotaged by Chrissy Matthews. After all, Chrissy is no doubt insanely jealous and won’t share the object of his affection with anybody, let alone someone who has Nicer Hair than he does. I read somewhere (on the ‘net, so it must be true) that Tingles spends his Friday nights performing lapdances in various stages of undress to his own Obama idol.

brushman on October 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Pease, someone let me know when Chris Matthews has his epiphany.

SC.Charlie on October 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Now that is truly some wishful thinking.

Bitter Clinger on October 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM

We told you so!

txhsmom on October 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Watch yourself, David. Remember what happened to Erlene.
Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.

kingsjester on October 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM

She, the poor good lady, is now in the Gen. McChrystal category, truth be damned.

If you cover up for the idiocy which is obama, you get promoted, retired and get your pockets stuffed, forever.

If you are ethical, moral, truthful and competent, you get fired.

As for the buffoonish David…heh, sweet ‘tears’ for your plight, fool.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Why should CBS have all the fun of pointing out the many facets of the ObamaCare disaster?

Actually, C-BS (at least on the radio side) has been hilarious to listen to this morning-they’ve completely buried their O’bamacare stories within the hourly radio “newscasts”.

At 10 AM, 11 AM and now again just now at noon, they led their “newscasts” with…the young girl sold to gypsies, followed by the decades-old Jon Benet Ramsey case.

Dr. Goebbels would heartily approve.

Del Dolemonte on October 25, 2013 at 12:16 PM

The times feel Goebellian.

The media have acted totally like they might have then.

Now, almost too late, they wake up “Duhhhh, what have we here?”

Good Morning America!!!

Occupy America!!!

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

A little flashback for you Davie, I Agree w/Shad.
EAT IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJXecThFgD0

MontanaMmmm on October 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Next step: Generic liberal pundit: “Well the subsidies we envisioned are just to low due those greedy insurance companies. We are therefore requesting an increase in the subsidies amounts to 3000% of the poverty level. 400% was clearly not enough.”

Question: Well, where you going to get that money without exploding the deficit?

Answer: Those greedy oil companies! oh, and Cheney said deficits don’t matter….so there!!!!!

can_con on October 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

This must be killing Dave Obamanite Gregory

RdLake on October 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Obama hid the prices 2 weeks before rollout (part of it begins at 3:11:05)

This made the website unstable.

faraway on October 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Was David Gregory giggling? Either way, it’s a bad sign for Obamacare.

Drained Brain on October 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Dr. Goebbels would heartily approve.

Del Dolemonte on October 25, 2013 at 12:16 PM

I approve this message!!! :)

Cheers Del

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Business Insider has turned on ObamaCare too?

Somebody wake up bayam!

Chuck Schick on October 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Dems – the party of wishful thinking.

mbs on October 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Obamacare website to be fixed by ‘end of November,’ says Jeffrey Zients, official tasked with fixing site – @DomenicoNBC

24 secs ago by editor

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Business Insider has turned on ObamaCare too?

Somebody wake up bayam!

Chuck Schick on October 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

When it rains burns it pours.

Years of cover-ups…the lid is off…that toothpaste ain’t goin’ back in.

It is more schadenfreude than one person s/b allowed to possess.

Hey, MontanaMmmm :)

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

The absence of trolls is deafening :)

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Jeesh– saying their incompetence doesn’t even rise to the level of incompetence, but instead is a “caricature of incompetence” is creativity I didn’t think he had in him. I wonder if it was a mistaken accident of luck, or did he really think that image out and use it purposefully? I never watch NBC so I wouldn’t know.

MTF on October 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

How long until the left concludes the Obama administration is chock full of secret conservatives, whose sole purpose was all along to give progressivism a bad name?

MTF on October 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Caricature of incompetence of obamacare”

David, you are perfect!!!

My, he is frustrated…my, my how sweet it is.

Heh, “obama went to wrong school at Harvard” :)

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Somebody wake up bayam!

Chuck Schick on October 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

bayam was up and spinning hours ago!

Del Dolemonte on October 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Caricature of incompetence

RWM, wake up…this is too cool.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

I have been reading that the mess has been caused by Republican governors who did not build their own exchanges. I think you can count on this being what they run with.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

BOMBSHELL Testimony

“one of the reasons for the high concurrent volume …was the late decision [2 weeks before launch] requires the consumers to register for an account before you they could browse for an insurance product [see prices]“

Obama crashed the site himself. They wanted to hide the prices from the public.

faraway on October 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Obama health care law

Center for Medicare, Medicaid Services declines to identify who is working on review of Obamacare site, saying they ‘need to keep their heads down’ to work – @KellyO

2 mins ago by editor
=========================

https://twitter.com/KellyO

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Wishful thinking eventually meets reality. That moment is now upon the media, and Barro’s bright enough to recognize it soon.

Could this happen to a ‘nicer’ bunch?

Thank you God, providence and/or whatever you might believe in, or not, to grant us this privilege to be alive to witness this.

obama’care’ might kill us all, but it’s so cool to go out this way :)

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Could Republicans have been right all along?

No…

… but Ted Cruz and Mike Lee were.

Seven Percent Solution on October 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Has anyone stopped to consider that young people (26 and under crowd, specifically) have no reason to sign up for ObamaCare, since the same law mandating insurance allows them to stay on their parent’s policy?

Not that they would sign up anyway…..

takeamericabackin10 on October 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

… but Ted Cruz and Mike Lee were.

Seven Percent Solution on October 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Thank you Sens Cruz/Lee, for exposing the crapweasels, especially from the right. Forever you’ll have our gratitude.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:29 PM

BOMBSHELL Testimony

“one of the reasons for the high concurrent volume …was the late decision [2 weeks before launch] requires the consumers to register for an account before you they could browse for an insurance product [see prices]“

Obama crashed the site himself. They wanted to hide the prices from the public.

faraway on October 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Not a bug but a feature…

Drained Brain on October 25, 2013 at 12:29 PM

That moment is now upon the media, and Barro’s bright enough to recognize it soon.

If he’s so bright why does he have to be beaten over the head with reality for months before he sorta kinda begins to get a hazzy fuzzy suspicion that maybe, just maybe, something is amiss?

HotAirian on October 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Domenico Montanaro ‏@DomenicoNBC 3m

One thing that changes today: After yesterday’s hearing, no one would take responsibility, admin is saying QSSI is now in charge going fwd
Expand

https://twitter.com/DomenicoNBC

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Poor David, his personal Tower of Babble has fallen and his personal messiah has been exposed as a fraud..

Don L on October 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

WTF…400 million for a site that ran to perfection would be re-dick-ulas …. but not to worry… Barry’s pals got paid… to bad the x ray techs will be monkeys with crayons to draw pictures of your broken leg

roflmmfao

donabernathy on October 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Jimmy Carter was seen on his knees, giving praise to God, for bringing obama. Jimmy is now the second worst president in history.

He lived to witness his ‘redemption’.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Could Republicans have been right all along?

No…

… but Ted Cruz and Mike Lee were.

Seven Percent Solution on October 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Seven Percent Solution:Amens on dat:)

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 12:33 PM

WTF…400 million for a site that ran to perfection would be re-dick-ulas ….

donabernathy on October 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Yesterday Greta had a reporter on – an independent gov’t watch dog group found that they already spent over one billion on it. The media are not even reporting on this, yet.

The group is busy avidly finding out more.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Please turn off your brain/finger filter and tell us all how you really feel.

/s

If you are listening to Rush’s show, you are hearing Schadenfreude as described by the master.

Mord on October 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM

The question I think you’ll see more and more going into next year is, ‘Is this too big, too complicated for the federal government to administer?’” he said on Morning Joe on Friday.

He’s better be careful as this kind of honesty is striking at the heart of the “single payer” that this BS bill was designed to bring about. He needs to be less honest or he will get a phone call or a visit from some well-dressed men in 3 piece suits with dark glasses soon.

Don L on October 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Obama crashed the site himself. They wanted to hide the prices from the public.

faraway on October 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Job 5:12

King James Version (KJV)

12 He disappointeth the devices of the crafty, so that their hands cannot perform their enterprise.

MontanaMmmm on October 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM

***************** Glitchy Scrotched **************************!!

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM

There’s no reason not to level with the public right now, unless the truth is so horrible and the website is so un-fixable that Obama administration officials can’t bring themselves to discuss the matter publicly. I suspect that’s not the case.

I dunno. This administration can’t admit to any failure, no matter how small.

mankai on October 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Hmmmmmmmmm, No Sh*t:

Kelly O’Donnell ‏@KellyO 1m

CMS briefing:”It will take a lot of work and there are a lot of problems that need to be addressed…fixable” re:http://healthcare.gov

https://twitter.com/KellyO

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM

HopeyScare
**********

https://twitter.com/HealthCareGov

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

The AP, providing ‘objective’ reporting, again.

Die in obama’s azz, you incredible fools.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Who has time to cover the failure of a gigantic government programs which directly concerns avery single American when a junior Senator from the minority party who holds no leadership position is speaking at the Rotary Club in IA? Now, that’s scary!

mankai on October 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

If only some groups of concerned citizens from all over the nation had gotten together to point this out for the last few years.

Oh wait…

Chris of Rights on October 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Caricature of incompetence

RWM, wake up…this is too cool.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

I’m awake. It’s the Crack of Brunch, isn’t it?

lolz

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

If only some groups of concerned citizens from all over the nation had gotten together to point this out for the last few years.

Oh wait…

Chris of Rights on October 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Astroturf baby,Koch suckers,teabgristani’s!/

MontanaMmmm on October 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Old and Busted: Too big to fail

New Hotness: Too big to be manageable

ghostwalker1 on October 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I’m awake. It’s the Crack of Brunch, isn’t it?

lolz

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Didn’t see you on the threads…I know, I know, you work so hard, at any time. Nothing bad meant…just missed you for the schadenfreude.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Didn’t see you on the threads…I know, I know, you work so hard, at any time. Nothing bad meant…just missed you for the schadenfreude.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I know. :-)

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 12:50 PM

If you are listening to Rush’s show, you are hearing Schadenfreude as described by the master.

Mord on October 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM

:)

I don’t listen to him, except on very, very rare exceptional cases. I read about him here, like yesterday, when he said “don’t comply, just don’t have the gov’t owe you taxes”. So far, they can’t enforce…can’t take over your accounts…of course, they can change the laws, in obama’s case by regal actions…

Thanks for the smirk.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Dick Gregory must be a racist or something .. whatever

J_Crater on October 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Pic of the Day: ‘The New Health Insurance Marketplace Is Open!*’

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Isn’t using a young white chick on the site “racist”?

The PC police is miraculously absent….this from the ones who never fail to use midgets, hued people of all kinds, unisexed figurines, and etc…

Now that they want the dumb young whites to sign up, if they are healthy especially, they use a kind of an outgrown Amish picture :)

God, thank you for this time.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM

From the clip, lamenting the failed launch:

“…that all of the effort went into the design than into the implementation.”

I’m not so certain that that is the case.

Tsar of Earth on October 25, 2013 at 1:17 PM

I have been reading that the mess has been caused by Republican governors who did not build their own exchanges. I think you can count on this being what they run with.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Exactly…that has been seething behind the scenes…and will be full blown within a couple of weeks. Actually planned that way

Redford on October 25, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

What he said! All of it!

(‘ObamaCare Schadenfreude Pure‘ – sounds like a cool name for an eVape. Savor the flavor.)

Tsar of Earth on October 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 12:33 PM

:)

Seven Percent Solution on October 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM

I hope ObamaCare brings down the State Run Media…

d1carter on October 25, 2013 at 1:25 PM

I didn’t know Obama got his colonoscopy this week?

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on October 25, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Listen to Gregory carefully.

First, notice that the rollout fiasco is a caricature, not “a real fact” as he describes the need to sign up young healthy people. So with regard to the rollout, who are you going to believe? Your lyin’ eyes or those who say it’s just a caricature of what’s really happening?

Second, at :40, Gregory offers an aside in which he snarkily comments that all those Republicans who said Obamacare was going to be a disaster didn’t even realize that there were the problems with the website–to which you can hear Mika agreeing, “Mmmmm.” WTF? Republicans are to be faulted for having not anticipated such an execution clusterphuck? Anything to find fault with the GOP, I guess.

BuckeyeSam on October 25, 2013 at 1:36 PM

I have been reading that the mess has been caused by Republican governors who did not build their own exchanges. I think you can count on this being what they run with.
 
Cindy Munford on October 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

 
Exactly…that has been seething behind the scenes…and will be full blown within a couple of weeks. Actually planned that way
 
Redford on October 25, 2013 at 1:19 PM

 
That and “Obamacare is actually a Republican plan, so its failure is all their fault and has nothing to do with Obama!”
 
From yesterday:
 

So, the next time you hear a Republican talk about how the individual mandate simply must be stopped, or at least delayed. Ask them why they’re so opposed to a plan that they came up with in the first place?
 
http://americablog.com/2013/10/original-1989-document-heritage-foundation-created-obamacares-individual-mandate.html

rogerb on October 25, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Wow David, you could almost say the govt shutdown over ObamaCare was prescient. Warning of a pending disaster and attempting to apply the brakes before the collision makes you a terrorist and hostage taker.

As the collision is occurring….more people are trying to apply the brakes……Republicans should just get out of the way…Democrats have enough rope….

It is about wealth transfer plain and simple. ObamaCare only works if the government can gain access to the property / wealth of a group of people and give it to another group.

In other circumstances you would call it a regressive policy or a regressive tax…….taking from people who statistically make less money and giving it to people who have more assets (older Americans)

R Square on October 25, 2013 at 1:41 PM

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 12:33 PM

:)

Seven Percent Solution on October 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Seven Percent Solution:——————-:0

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Cruz, you magnificent bastard…

Dave, Dave, Dave …you own it, b!tch.

Would you like some extra mayo on that Crap Sandwich??

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on October 25, 2013 at 1:45 PM

rogerb on October 25, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Easy response. The Heritage plan was a financial-responsibility proposal. Require everyone to carry some level of catastrophic care, invariably a policy that covers nothing routine, has a high deductible, and has a low premium. Does that sound like Obamacare?

BuckeyeSam on October 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 12:50 PM

That cover is hilarious! You really have to read all the points on it.

Barred on October 25, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Could Republicans have been right all along?

Ed, Republicans publicly excoriated Cruz investing a mere 21 hours to educated the electorate about how Obamacare is a mistake and needs to be defunded.

I know, I know, there was a difference in opinion as to what the appropriate “tactic” should be… Option A: sit on your hands for over three years, or Option B: fight the “law” that had been mutated from the legislation that had been passed (by waivers, mandate delays, SC rulings, and exemptions to government employees).

Republicans are wrong. Conservatives, having carried on the fight, are right. ALL. ALONG. Thank the TEA Party, wouldja?

socalcon on October 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM

I suspect that’s not the case.

TRANSLATION: I remain a loyal follower of the Lord Obamassiah.

GarandFan on October 25, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Could this happen to a ‘nicer’ MORE DESERVING bunch?

Thank you God, providence and/or whatever you might believe in, or not, to grant us this privilege to be alive to witness this.
Amen!

obama’care’ might kill us all, but it’s so cool to go out this way :)

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Solaratov on October 25, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Gregory is concerned about a “…caricature of incompetence that could be associated with Obamacare for a long time…”

Caricature: a picture, description, etc., ludicrously exaggerating the peculiarities or defects of persons or things.

Please note, David, that it is not a caricature if it is accurate. The fact that Obamacare is truly messed up and reflects actual incompetence is not hyperbole. It is not a caricature.

dont taze me bro on October 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Obama promising Obamacare would not cost a dime, would pay for itself, and would even REDUCE the deficit didn’t make anyone concerned? Never mind no such government program has ever lived up to any of those promises….

You mean the MADAME SOCIALIST MOMENT when Nancy Pelosi prroclaimed to the now-subjugated American people that they had NO RIGHT to know what was in any legislation written by their superiors that would so drastically affect their lives didn’t make anyone concerned?

Everyone who DIDN’T see this coming please raise your hands. Good, now keep them up, and someone will be walking around to collect your Voter ID cards…because you’re all too DUMB to vote any more!

easyt65 on October 25, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Please note, David, that it is not a caricature if it is accurate. The fact that Obamacare is truly messed up and reflects actual incompetence is not hyperbole. It is not a caricature.

dont taze me bro on October 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM

For example, if I say that your reporting is typically biased in favor of the administration, that is not a caricature.

dont taze me bro on October 25, 2013 at 2:21 PM

GOP may vote again to delay Obamacare

By JAKE SHERMAN | 10/25/13 2:12 PM EDT
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The House Republican with direct oversight of Obamacare hinted that the GOP might, once again, vote to delay a critical component of the health care law.

Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) hinted Friday that the House might vote to delay the sign-up date for Obamacare. The current enrollment period lasts through March.

Upton’s committee had a high profile hearing Thursday with the contractors who built the troubled Obamacare website. Next week, Upton’s panel will hear from Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

“Since we had our hearing…there’s a number of members – Republican and Democrat – that are calling for a further delay in terms of signing things up,” Upton said during a taping of C-SPAN’s “Newsmakers.” “We’re going to take a good look at that, and we’ll see where we are, maybe having some announcement next week or so, maybe a little longer than that”

Upton stressed that no final decisions have been made, but its clear that House Republicans are moving toward more legislative remedies to put off elements of the Affordable Care Act.

Several Senate Democrats have spoken out in favor of delaying the date by which individuals must buy health insurance but they’re going about it in different ways. Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) is drafting legislation that would delay the individual mandate. Sens. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) and Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) want to extend the enrollment period.

“Discussions are starting,” Upton said in the television show taping, which included a reporter from POLITICO. “We learned a lot this last week, we’re going to learn more I presume this next week, and you know, this is people’s health care, it’s a lot of money out of their own pocket. Lot of changes are there too. And where this leads us, time will tell, but I think we’re going to try to take this evidence that we saw this week and see what adjustments we might be able to make, particularly since some of the headlines, even Friday in POLITICO, I think were almost every Democrat with a tough race has said, ‘we got big trouble’ right?”
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canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM

The question I think you’ll see more and more going into next year is, ‘Is this too big, too complicated for the federal government to administer?’” he said on Morning Joe on Friday

It’s too complicated for anyone to do. You can’t reduce a free market to a website. This isn’t ebay or Amazon. It’s not an e-commerce site and it’s not a case of administration. It’s making a site that replaces (or mirrors) the health care industry and market.

I’m going to stop saying this…nobody’s listening.

kcewa on October 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Has anyone stopped to consider that young people (26 and under crowd, specifically) have no reason to sign up for ObamaCare, since the same law mandating insurance allows them to stay on their parent’s policy?

Not that they would sign up anyway…..

takeamericabackin10 on October 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Not anymore. A whole bunch of employers have dropped family coverage for employees. The will still insure the employee, but not any family members. O care strikes yet again.

Johnnyreb on October 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM

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