Breaking: Healthcare.gov czar promises site will work right by … end of November

posted at 12:34 pm on October 25, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Well, what’s an extra month among friends, anyway?  Just days after Barack Obama appointed his new top economics adviser Jeff Zients to head up the so-called “tech surge” to fix Healthcare.gov, Zients promised that Americans will be able to behold the power of a fully operational ObamaCare by … er … the end of November.

It’s a good thing that Obama brought in an expert from the web-portal field to make that determination, right? Er, not exactly.  Zients comes from the private sector all right, but in venture capital. His most prominent position before now was with Bain Capital — the same company that Obama demonized during the 2012 campaign, and the same company run by Mitt Romney.

Something tells me that the deadline for beholding the power of the fully operational ObamaCare’s going to look something like this:

But maybe this is a better Star Wars reference:

If this can’t get fixed by the end of November, the White House will have to beg Congress for the delay they insisted was the fantasy of anarchists just three weeks ago. They will find themselves in a trap of their own making.


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faraway on October 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Not quite. Testing was performed in September, but it failed. Even if they fix the signups, insurers have indicated that there is an even bigger problem with data transmission on the backend… but people are not hitting that yet because of the front-end problems. An even bigger issue will occur if people start hitting the backend data issues because they will think they have insurance until they try to make a claim against it and they discover that they actually DON’T have insurance!

dominigan on October 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM

o/t, but breaking:

Redskins to become Bravehearts?

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

William Wallace unavailable for comment.

chewmeister on October 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Redskins to become Bravehearts?

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

I wouldn’t be overly surprised but who knows? The Orioles trademarked all sorts of names before announcing Camden Yards as their stadium. Even so somebody had gotten in ahead of them and trademarked some of the more obvious choices.

Happy Nomad on October 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Don’t forget this

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Redskins to become Bravehearts?
 
Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

 
A friend told me this morning that they have to change their name since “Washington” offends so many people.

rogerb on October 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

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canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Wouldn’t this require a painful surgery…actually two?

kingsjester on October 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM

I am listening to Rush right now about health care, and how the Congress is getting their “subsidy,” and they don’t get it why everyone is mad, because it was paid for in their compensation before, and they are getting the same deal from their employer.

Here is the difference: When your employer decides not to pay for your healthcare, and you go on the Obamacare exchange, if you make more than $40K you might not be getting a subsidy, and the government is going to charge each employee a tax/penalty for each employee…but it is going to go to someone who QUALIFIES for a subsidy, not to you the employee. But Barach Obama, he is arranging for these special subsidies for Congress, so their employer can subsidize them.

The Congress rightly feels like any employee would, why shouldn’t I get the same deal as I had before Obamacare? And the answer is, because YOU have RUINED it for other people who won’t get that same deal.

Fleuries on October 25, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Redskins to become Bravehearts?

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Should have gone with “Veterans”

Bmore on October 25, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Anytime after McCaulliffe wins in Virginia they can open up the Virginia exchange, so the timing works.

Fleuries on October 25, 2013 at 1:32 PM

o/t, but breaking:

Redskins to become Bravehearts?

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Awe. My brother wanted them to be named the Foreskins but he’s a Cowboys fan so…

magicbeans on October 25, 2013 at 1:33 PM

If this can’t get fixed by the end of November…

Obowma will deem it fixed…

… and any problems will be sabotage by the Republicans.

Now, shut up and pass amnesty…!

Seven Percent Solution on October 25, 2013 at 1:33 PM

By the end of November. How ironic, that’s when Iran should have a nuclear weapon as well.

magicbeans on October 25, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Maybe he could go over and help Mozilla with Firefox after he gets done there?

I can’t figure out if it’s all the ads here, or the “scripts” or if it’s Mozilla or the NSA but using Firefox for the last couple of weeks has been horrible (started using MS Internet Explorer again).

Is this what it feels like to be to try and get into the .gov website?

PappyD61 on October 25, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Redskins to become Bravehearts?

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

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canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM

I was watching CNN around noon time today when this news story broke. The anchor actually announced this as great news. At least another month before the web site works properly and CNN thinks this is a wonderful development? Pathetic!

Wigglesworth on October 25, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Healthcare.gove will NOT be ready by the end of November – this year or next. If you want to know why, check this out: http://bit.ly/1acpwt0 It only scratches the surface, but this website, in its current incarnation, will never, ever, ever work (at least in any kind of reasonable time frame, i.e., several years). I would stake my life on the proposition that there are going to be some seriously disappointed libs on Dec 1 – and fireworks beyond conception.

Jazz on October 25, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I play a wicked witch at my historical preservation society’s haunted house. They wonder how I have such an excellent cackle. I just envision idiot 0bama supporters getting their cancellation notices, and sticker shock on healthcare.gov.

Sekhmet on October 25, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Something tells me that the deadline for beholding the power of the fully operational ObamaCare’s going to look something like this:

He’s got a legion of his best troops working on it. There is no chance any little fuzzballs could screw this one up.

gwelf on October 25, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Healthcare.gov czar promises site will work right by … end of November

Fat Chance!

ConservativePartyNow on October 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM

I play a wicked witch at my historical preservation society’s haunted house. They wonder how I have such an excellent cackle. I just envision idiot 0bama supporters getting their cancellation notices, and sticker shock on healthcare.gov.

Sekhmet on October 25, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Do you go dressed like Kathleen Sebelius?

Happy Nomad on October 25, 2013 at 1:47 PM

If it’s not ready by then, Obama will issue an executive order deeming it to be working.

RSbrewer on October 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM

If this can’t get fixed by the end of November, the White House will have to beg Congress for the delay they insisted was the fantasy of anarchists just three weeks ago. They will find themselves in a trap of their own making.

Point of order – ABC has said that the proposed blatantly-illegal 6-week delay of the PlaceboCare ta…er…penalty is not merely a proposal.

Team SCOAMT neither wants nor needs Congress to codify it – after all, not having the delays codified makes it easier for a favored Lawgiver-In-Black to retroactively reimpose what was delayed.

Steve Eggleston on October 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Obamacare = New Coke

Sometimes people like the old product more…

hobbit on October 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Alllllll is wellllllllll!!!!

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on October 25, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Bmore on October 25, 2013 at 1:32 PM

They have to go with something that will allow them to keep the fight song.

Cindy Munford on October 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM

They will find themselves in a trap of their own making.

No, they won’t. If problems persist, King Barack will proclaim that none exist. If any problems see the light of day in the MSM, it will all be the fault of those RACIST! Republicans.

And 33% of (low intellect, low info) voters will believe their Obamassiah.

GarandFan on October 25, 2013 at 1:54 PM

When am I going to start hearing GOP members of Congress telling people that “Obama built that”?

BuckeyeSam on October 25, 2013 at 1:57 PM

So basically the site will be up and running AFTER a bunch of Americans have gone out and spent most of their disposable income on XMas gifts? Good timing, Obama regime.

Doughboy on October 25, 2013 at 1:57 PM

I play a wicked witch at my historical preservation society’s haunted house. They wonder how I have such an excellent cackle. I just envision idiot 0bama supporters getting their cancellation notices, and sticker shock on healthcare.gov.

Sekhmet on October 25, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Do you go dressed like Kathleen Sebelius?

Happy Nomad on October 25, 2013 at 1:47 PM

That would be Halloween costume, not historical re-enactment material :)…

jimver on October 25, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Joan Walsh is going to livid again…

d1carter on October 25, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Yeah they just have to work to correct a few a minor glitches and it will be all well and good after that.

jaywemm on October 25, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Fully operational by the end of November … November of what year?

krome on October 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM

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canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Point of order – ABC has said that the proposed blatantly-illegal 6-week delay of the PlaceboCare ta…er…penalty is not merely a proposal.

Team SCOAMT neither wants nor needs Congress to codify it – after all, not having the delays codified makes it easier for a favored Lawgiver-In-Black to retroactively reimpose what was delayed.

Steve Eggleston on October 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Taxing powers!

/John Roberts

gwelf on October 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM

That would be Halloween costume, not historical re-enactment material :)…

jimver on October 25, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Point of order – a Witch Ratch…er…Sebelius costume would be a contemporaneous re-enactment item.

Steve Eggleston on October 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM

When am I going to start hearing GOP members of Congress telling people that “Obama built that”?

BuckeyeSam on October 25, 2013 at 1:57 PM

One think I know for sure, even low info voters such as those college kids who were asked in a recent survey who was Hitler and which country was he from (they could’t tell either :) know who owns Obamacare :)…whoever named it that, was very inspired :)…

jimver on October 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM

As of this morning, the home page of Obamacare still cannot pass a basic HTML validity test published by W3C (the international consortium in charge of Web Standards).

And “fully operational” MUST mean that the site is not only reasonable to operate by a user with no more than an 8th grade education, but is also SAFE TO USE: If every prospective user is put in imminent danger of identity theft, the site is NOT FULLY OPERATIONAL: The Obamacare site MUST at least meet PCI standards – like every other e-commerce site must!!!

There is absolutely NO CHANCE that this web site will be anywhere close to “fully operational” anytime during 2013 or 2014: even with infinite budget and unlimited access to technical help.

I speak from nearly 5 decades’ technical and management experience in the industry.

landlines on October 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Taxing powers!

/John Roberts

gwelf on October 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM

I’m torn between fighting to the bitter end what’s coming to Big Business come mid-November (a retroactive reimposition of the employer mandate and ta…er…penalty and a judicial order for them to pay for the individual ta…er…penalty of the employees they “threw out in the cold”) and waiting to break out the world’s smallest violin for them.

I’m inclined to do the latter because they’re playing with fire on both ends – rent-seeking from the Rats and trying to drive conservatives out of the Not-Quite-Rat Party.

Steve Eggleston on October 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Don’t hold your breath, unless they were working on two websites at the same time and rolled out the wrong one by mistake. If they do drag this dead horse across the finish line on Dec 1st, it’ll still be the same death panel, premium increase, and higher deductible pos it is today.

Kissmygrits on October 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Did Zients mention a year in conjunction with that month?

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Whoa, that will be more than one meter.

dogsoldier on October 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM

landlines on October 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Ten thousand pages of rules. Zients is getting paid to paint a smily face in lipstick on that turd.

dogsoldier on October 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

First rule of marketing: Don’t make promises you can’t keep..

The “savior” Zients, will have no excuse when the O’care disaster continues to fail. He was foolish enough to take the “fixit” job in the first place; guaranteed he doesn’t know the extent of the problem. Zients is either a cockeyed optimist or a fool. To make that kind of promise without at least a very in depth interview with government workers who, btw, cannot be held accountable or fired, shows he doesn’t know what he’s walking into, either. He may have come from Bain Capital a successful operation, but to walk into this operation? Well, not all Bain employees are smart.

Will government heads role? I don’t think so.

MN J on October 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

So, most of us will get to enjoy TWO TURKEYS at the end of November.

TeaPartyNation on October 25, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Paper forms and snail-mail.

Who says Democrats are anti-capitalist? USPS, paper mills, COBOL programmers, data-entry clerks (, morticians) will be booming.

Tsar of Earth on October 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM

GOP may vote again to delay Obamacare

By JAKE SHERMAN | 10/25/13 2:12 PM EDT
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The House Republican with direct oversight of Obamacare hinted that the GOP might, once again, vote to delay a critical component of the health care law.

Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) hinted Friday that the House might vote to delay the sign-up date for Obamacare. The current enrollment period lasts through March.

Upton’s committee had a high profile hearing Thursday with the contractors who built the troubled Obamacare website. Next week, Upton’s panel will hear from Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

“Since we had our hearing…there’s a number of members – Republican and Democrat – that are calling for a further delay in terms of signing things up,” Upton said during a taping of C-SPAN’s “Newsmakers.” “We’re going to take a good look at that, and we’ll see where we are, maybe having some announcement next week or so, maybe a little longer than that”

Upton stressed that no final decisions have been made, but its clear that House Republicans are moving toward more legislative remedies to put off elements of the Affordable Care Act.

Several Senate Democrats have spoken out in favor of delaying the date by which individuals must buy health insurance but they’re going about it in different ways. Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) is drafting legislation that would delay the individual mandate. Sens. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) and Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) want to extend the enrollment period.

“Discussions are starting,” Upton said in the television show taping, which included a reporter from POLITICO. “We learned a lot this last week, we’re going to learn more I presume this next week, and you know, this is people’s health care, it’s a lot of money out of their own pocket. Lot of changes are there too. And where this leads us, time will tell, but I think we’re going to try to take this evidence that we saw this week and see what adjustments we might be able to make, particularly since some of the headlines, even Friday in POLITICO, I think were almost every Democrat with a tough race has said, ‘we got big trouble’ right?”
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canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Did Zients mention a year in conjunction with that month?

canopfor on October 25, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Ain’t matter, November is November, the year is irrelevant :)…

jimver on October 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Washington Bravehearts is an oxymoron, very negative.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Zients is a serious guy, maybe uniquely so in this administration, so maybe it’ll happen.

After fixing the web site maybe can fix the insurance industry and then find doctors who’ll give care.

Or maybe not. I wish the Democrats could just invoke Emily Litella and say “Never mind”, instead of persisting in their efforts to impoverish the country.

MTF on October 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Reminder from Megan McArdle‘s column of the other week:

In the private sector, this system would already have been rolled back, probably less than 48 hours after it was rolled out. The government has more time, but not that much more, because every day they wait adds to the chaos that will occur if they have to pull the plug in December. If the system cannot reliably process 50 percent of its users on Nov. 1 — and I mean from end to end, including sending a valid enrollment file to the insurer — then the administration should ask for a one-year delay of Obamacare’s various regulations, including the individual mandate. Congress, including Republicans, should be ready to give it to them, with no strings attached. [INC: I disagree with the no strings!]

Perhaps Nov. 1 seems too aggressive to you. I chose that date because it’s when Jon Kingsdale, who ran the Massachusetts exchange for its first five years, said we would be “really in deep doo-doo.” Well, let’s say Nov. 15 — the date when almost all the experts I’ve heard say we really need to be running at full speed, to handle the crush of applications sure to come between Thanksgiving and the mid-December deadline for buying insurance that starts in January.

INC on October 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM

The only thing better than bringing in a grownup Bain guy would be Mitt himself.

PattyJ on October 25, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Rewrite 5 million lines of code by the end of November, or about 5 weeks? If the average programmer can write and debug 100 lines of code per day (as suggested by another poster on HotAir), in 25 working days a programmer could write 2,500 lines of code.

So Zients the capitalist Bain would need about 2,000 programmers to help him. How many programmers would quit their current jobs for a temporary 5-week gig for the Government? If they were paid, for example, $50 per hour, the effort would cost

$50/hr * 40 hr/week * 5 weeks * 2,000 geeks = $20 million.

Happy Thanksgiving, America!!! You bought this big turkey, but it shouldn’t be pardoned.

Steve Z on October 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Healthcare.gov czar promises site will work right by … end of November

Sure it will!

And a herd of unicorns is gonna gallop under the rainbow any minute now …

Is there anybody left that believes this garbage?

Archer on October 25, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Hello Barry, please be more specific – supply us with list of fixes – thanks, Steverino

steveracer on October 25, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Rewrite 5 million lines of code by the end of November, or about 5 weeks? If the average programmer can write and debug 100 lines of code per day (as suggested by another poster on HotAir), in 25 working days a programmer could write 2,500 lines of code.

So Zients the capitalist Bain would need about 2,000 programmers to help him. How many programmers would quit their current jobs for a temporary 5-week gig for the Government? If they were paid, for example, $50 per hour, the effort would cost

$50/hr * 40 hr/week * 5 weeks * 2,000 geeks = $20 million.

Steve Z on October 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM

The proposed “tech surge” is best described by the old joke:

Q – How do you get a baby in 1 month???

A – All you need is nine good women!!!

Apparently Obamacrats didn’t realize it was a joke.

But really, this kind of job cannot be properly specified…much less completed… in one month. You would need to establish an infrastructure just to coordinate and keep track of changes and to keep communications among IT personnel up to date: if you don’t, you’ll end up with new code plus a brand new set of serious problems…and you’ll STILL have a NON-FUNCTIONING web site.

This kind of task requires a lot of very close technical and administrative supervision plus an extremely heavy schedule of testing as changes are incorporated. And since they are starting from a body of code which can’t even generate valid HTML code, they have a HUGE amount of work to do!! And many of the errors cannot even be seen until the previous layers of error-filled code have been repaired, so many problems can’t be worked in parallel! In addition, many of the serious errors are related to system architecture – NOT simply coding: system architecture corrections typically take MONTHS to redesign and implement, and they affect every part of the system.

Then there is the matter of security. We all have reason to suspect that there was NO security plan for the Healthcare.gov web site. But if there was, and if the plan was implemented properly, Security Verification of the site will take about 3 months all by itself: and this task must be done AFTER all the code is finished. Healthcare.gov is a huge “honeypot” for every identity thief in the world, multiple databases on legacy systems are involved, and security is going to be extremely difficult.

The bottom line is that a horde of “average programmers” doing a massive re-write on a short schedule will have no where near the average productivity cited. In addition, any IT personnel brought in would likely demand AT LEAST 4-10 times the wages cited above (which are close to what programmers might earn in a STABLE, FULL-TIME PERMANENT position), and 2000 programmers would require a supporting army of another 2000 management/coordination/support personnel to make sure that everybody on the project is working toward the same goals, everybody is making progress toward those goals, and nobody outside the project is making any changes whatsoever. Taking into account that this is a government job, the number is probably closer to 20000 programmers + 20000 infrastructure/support: and don’t forget to add the 3 unproductive months or so it takes to get all of the project personnel “government security clearance” so that they can do their jobs.

landlines on October 25, 2013 at 4:30 PM

November of what year?

Akzed on October 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM

What do you do when you buy a Car, and you can’t even drive it off the Car Lot ????
Obamacare doesn’t give tax payers their $100′s of millions back, they want to charge you for fixing it, before you can use it.

JayTee on October 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Dan Mangan ‏@_DanMangan 11m

8,000 people Washington State #Obamacare exchange have incorrect subsidies as result of tech glitch

sentinelrules on October 25, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Was that Nov 2013, 2014, or 2015 ?

brads01 on October 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM

If this can’t get fixed by the end of November, the White House will have to beg Congress for the delay they insisted was the fantasy of anarchists just three weeks ago. They will find themselves in a trap of their own making.

Ha! You living in a fantasy world? Laws, schmaws. Dear Leader will issue the extension. Congressional approval – not required.

Hill60 on October 25, 2013 at 4:59 PM

In the wake of 9/11/01 – I often argued with those on the hard left that the killing of UBL, when we got him, would not be the end of (or victory in) the ‘War on Terror’. To win, we would need to utterly and completely defeat and discredit the radical islamofascism that is at the root of the jihadist efforts.

The situation is similar here. Just ‘fixing’ the website so that people can register, shop, and ultimately buy health insurance coverage without crashes, lock-ups, or bad data transfers will not fix the ACA or solve the problems of the ACA.

The technical aspect is just one part of the fundamental problems contained within the ACA. And the website performance is just one part of the technical problems that plague the site.

What’s happening now in the messaging is a standard part of damage control – redefining where the bar is….and lowering the bar as far down as possible so it’s easier to cross over it. Our expectations are being set that the problem is that the website doesn’t work…when in reality, not only does the website not work, but bad data is being sent to insurance companies, and the subsidy information is questionable.

This is on top of the other aspects we know are broken – ie, you can’t keep your plan, you may not keep your Doctor, you may very well be locked into a single network, the cost and deductible for the vast majority of people are soaring, and the private insurance companies remain on the cusp of a death spiral.

Athos on October 25, 2013 at 5:09 PM

I do not think I will bet any money on this actually happening.

logicman_1998 on October 25, 2013 at 5:20 PM

So now, Sebelius is cut out of the loop….hmmmmm.

d1carter on October 25, 2013 at 1:21 PM

When this was announced, and Sebelius was NOT there, it is clear she is no longer RESPONSIBLE for Obamacare.

I suspect this point will be made MANY times.

For example, WHO is going to ask HER about the status of the ‘fix’? What would be the point of the ongoing Thursday presser with her they announced just 2 days ago? Who is going to be reporting the sign-up numbers in November? Will the new management be releasing those totals?

Look for the house hearing to be incredibly funny to watch next week as she explains, well, NOTHING!

Freddy on October 25, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Look for the house hearing to be incredibly funny to watch next week as she explains, well, NOTHING!

Freddy on October 25, 2013 at 5:32 PM

I expect her to either channel Lois Lerner or the former SecState…

What difference at this point does it make?

…if she does anything other than filibuster and spin.

Athos on October 25, 2013 at 5:40 PM

November of which year?

hachiban on October 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM

November, November which November? November 2013?

Kjeil on October 25, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Surely this is just an amazing coincidence:
/s

Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website.

LegendHasIt on October 25, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Talking point for that liberal member of your family at thanksgiving dinner. December 1st it will become “by the end of the year” to cover Christmas dinners. Also covers Kwanza (as if)

rik on October 25, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Was that Nov 2013, 2014, or 2015 ?

brads01 on October 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM

….Jay Carney….knows three Novembers!

KOOLAID2 on October 25, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Roving gangs of Red State Republicans have reportedly been behind a series of vicious beatings targeting frail, helpless government websites.

The perpetrators are thrill-seeker conservatives playing what authorities say is something called the “Knockout Game.”

In the “Knockout Game,” violence-steeped Tea Partiers approach the victim website from behind and pummel it with data. The object of the “game” is to cause the website to collapse by striking it with the least amount of data.

Authorities report the most recent victim was a website by the name of Healthcare.gov. Republican gang members happened upon the site as it was leaving the offices of a Canadian software contractor.

Authorities say Healthcare.gov was targeted because it appeared unable to run.

“When it left the software place, it just kinda stood there – it seemed like forever – and looked totally disoriented,” said one official close to the investigation.

Authorities say they have no information about the identities of the suspects in this latest assault, but promised that all conservative Tea Party Republicans will be charged.

FlameWarrior on October 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM

New Steyn…

Obamacare’s Magical Thinkers

Resist We Much on October 25, 2013 at 6:59 PM

My wife is in a state sponsored high-risk health insurance pool. They have notified her that she needs to select new coverage by Dec 10. She has tried to get into the new health care website and after setting up her ID/password, the system refuses to recognize her ID/password.

Dr. MLK Jr, “Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal.”

We are so screwed!

WestTexasBirdDog on October 25, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Every Republican should be asking:
Why did Obama appoint a millionaire from Bain Capital to fix Healthcare.gov?

Another Drew on October 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM

He blinded me with Zients!

Chuckles3 on October 25, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Didn’t mean to suggest that. I meant more that they had managed to “not let a crisis go to waste” – that they’d turned the unintended website flail into something useful to them (i.e. a squirrel).

I liked the image you described, BTW. And your nick is familiar – same as on UMan’s place?

bofh on October 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Sorry for the late reply — had to run off to work — and apologies for misinterpreting your comment (I see now what you meant).

And yep, that’s me from UMan’s place. :-)

ShainS on October 25, 2013 at 7:54 PM

His most prominent position before now was with Bain Capital — the same company that Obama demonized during the 2012 campaign, and the same company run by Mitt Romney.

Hey wait a sec, aren’t these the guys that kill people by giving them cancer?

Meh, I guess it’s in the spirit of this whole program.

RINO in Name Only on October 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Wasn’t there a song about this? “You make me, promises, promises…”

boomer on October 25, 2013 at 10:12 PM

The more ObamacareTax works, the worse it will get.

It’s like trying to “fix” a plague virus that is insufficiently infectious.

Only a moron would consider this progress.

profitsbeard on October 26, 2013 at 2:53 AM

But they promised that it would be ready by October 1st!
Instead they forced a government shutdown in an attempt to obscure the not ready for prime time, Demoncrat Debacle in plan sight.
I believe the Marines would call that FUBAR (f’d up beyond reason).

kregg on October 26, 2013 at 6:42 AM

So they were supposed to find a way to get 7 million people signed up by 01 JAN 2014, the effective bill paying deadline for the insurers and the insured to make sure they are, actually, insured. The later deadline is for stragglers.

I suspect that the lack of people signed up at this point will require a thorough clean-out of the system as the data, itself, is corrupt by the way the system operates.

That is 7 million people in 4 weeks. Kill the last 10 days for the holidays. Really who is going to bother between Christmas and New Years?

You get 333,000 people/day signing up for Obamacare for a 21 day effective window.

Even if the thing works perfectly, which it would have to, it wasn’t set up for that sort of surge of applicants… and if it falls on its face yet again, using some clunky old 1990′s era web interface to at least get some interactive capacity to it, say, there may not be enough processing time by the system and the insurers to make sure that people who supposedly sign up for coverage actually being covered. And the first person to get any major health problem on coverage they thought they had but lacking same due to the problems of the system has an instant lawsuit against the service, not the insurer, thus against Obamacare.

And if it continues to fall flat on its face due to who is doing the appointment of project managers, then a major class action lawsuit will arrive next year against the entire Obamacare system run by the federal government. And as the law effects all Americans, it is a suit of the People of the United States vs Government of the United States.

Send the lawyers in to pick it clean.

It is the only way to be sure.

And we might even get a refund from ourselves!

ajacksonian on October 26, 2013 at 7:29 AM

Aren’t there 36 czars? What are the rest up to?

RdLake on October 26, 2013 at 8:23 AM

KATHLEEN SEBELIUS: In an ideal world there would have been a lot more testing. We did not have the luxury of that with a law that said it’s go time on October 1st and frankly a political atmosphere where the majority party at least in the House was determined to stop this any way they possibly could including shutting down the United States government. So it was not an ideal atmosphere.

Trolls: You should be embarrassed. OH wait….you are. Where the eff are you?

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 26, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Ok Mr. Zients. In the spirit of transparency, let’s see the project time line and see how your efforts match your rhetoric.

diogenes on October 26, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Just skimming through the comments, anybody mention this, yet?

Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/25/michelle-obamas-princeton-classmate-is-executive-at-company-that-built-obamacare-website/#ixzz2iq3LIolo

Fallon on October 26, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Nov 30 is happy talk to soothe MSM handmaidens. They are in a panic.

matthew8787 on October 26, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Would have been so much easier if they just lowered the medicare age to 27.

libfreeordie on October 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Would have been so much easier if they just lowered the medicare age to 27. UNICORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

libfreeordie on October 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Murphy9 on October 26, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Obummerbot – Where’s my free health care?

Agent of Truth – It’s not ‘health care’ it’s ‘health insurance’.

Obummerbot – Well, where’s my free health insurance.

AoT – It’s not free, there are premiums and subsidies to help the poor.

Obummerbot – OK, then give me my subsidy.

AoT – Sorry, subsidies are paid directly to the insurance companies.

SCHADENFEUDE, BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!

soghornetgunner on October 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Would have been so much easier if they just lowered the medicare age to 27.

libfreeordie on October 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Or 16.
/

Degenerate.

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 26, 2013 at 12:35 PM

They may fix the website, they may fix the call center, they can’t fix the hundreds of thousands losing their insurance through their employers, being forced into part time work, being laid off or never being hired because of this crappy program.

jpmn on October 26, 2013 at 2:31 PM

What Happened to All of Barack Obama’s Technology Czars?

Why does the White House need a private-sector “tech surge” to repair its wretched Obamacare website failures? Weren’t all of the president’s myriad IT czars and their underlings supposed to ensure that taxpayers got the most effective, innovative, cutting-edge and secure technology for their money?

Now is the perfect time for an update on Obama’s top government titans of information technology. As usual, “screw up, move up” is standard bureaucratic operating procedure.

It’s all about driving a perception to trump reality with a large dose of misdirection and deflection.

Athos on October 26, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Um…did they mean November 2013 or 2016?

You know how Libs like to spin their own words.

ProfShadow on October 27, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Obama has chosen the “Infinite Month Option” from our Deluxe Package of Project Delay Tactics.

This excuse promises results in another month. Sometime after two weeks have passed but before the end of the third, new and “unexpected” difficulties will be discovered that require just one more month to complete the project.

Lather, rinse, repeat as needed.

Adjoran on October 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Did he post a personal bond backing up his words?
No….well then, it doesn’t work, it won’t work, it can’t work.

Another Drew on October 27, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Ten thousand pages of rules. Zients is getting paid to paint a smily face in lipstick on that turd.

dogsoldier on October 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

RIGHT!!

…and still, the ONLY proper thing you can do with a turd is to FLUSH IT!!

landlines on October 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

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