Video: NSA confronted by most formidable opponent yet — celebrities

posted at 5:21 pm on October 24, 2013 by Allahpundit

I had the same reaction to this as Christian Toto of Breitbart: The most striking thing about it is how relatively low-wattage the star power is. Under President Romney, there’d be multiple A-listers in the shuffle — Brad, Matt, Sean, Scarlett, Tom, maybe the other Tom. As it is, the best they can do are lesser lights like Donahue, John Cusack, and good ol’ Oliver Stone, all of whom are sufficiently far left (and have comparatively less to lose) that they’re comfortable attacking a Democratic administration’s policies in a way the Hollywood fundraiser circuit simply isn’t. Which is not to say they’re entirely comfortable. As Toto notes, Obama himself isn’t mentioned in the clip; the villainous Big Brother figure shown is Richard Nixon. Maybe they’re just playing off the Ellsberg cameo in doing that, but it’s more likely the producers decided they’d get further in building resistance to the NSA among young liberals online if they decoupled the movement from criticism of Bambi. If you believe the polls, that’s a smart choice.

Speaking of which, here’s the agency-by-agency breakdown in Pew’s recent poll showing trust in government near a record low. Note the NSA relative to the rest. Hmmm:

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I’m not sure what lesson to draw from that. On the one hand, the NSA is viewed less favorably than every other arm of the government except the perennial punching bags of the IRS and the Department of Education. On the other hand, no agency’s taken more of a beating in the news over the past two months than the NSA has. Every week brings something new from Snowden generating global headlines about the mammoth scale of their spying on American allies and Americans themselves — and yet the agency’s still seen favorably by 54 percent of the public versus just 35 percent who see it unfavorably. Eventually the Snowden revelations will dry up and its popularity will start to climb again; if there’s a big counterterror success with which the agency is credited, it’ll rebound even faster. Point being, if you can’t turn the public against massive NSA surveillance after a hurricane of damning news, how likely is it that they’ll ever be turned? Decades later, we’ve still got the IRS and DOE, don’t we?

Exit question: If you’re trying to convince mainstream voters that opposing NSA policies is a perfectly sensible, mainstream thing to do, why would you put Oliver Stone in your PSA?


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Maggie Gyllenhal looks ill. Never could stand her “I care so much and I’m so warm and sweet” way of talking.

Barf.

bluegill on October 24, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Do you think the hollywood elites finally realized that the NSA now knows who all the cocaine dealers and sex traffickers in Los Angeles are?

MichaelGabriel on October 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM

No Bush. No Obama. Which, of course, explains why there’s no Bush. #BlameNixon

BKeyser on October 24, 2013 at 5:27 PM

If you’re trying to convince mainstream voters that opposing NSA policies is a perfectly sensible, mainstream thing to do, why would you put Oliver Stone in your PSA?

Follow the money and the favors.

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM

We’re so dumb.

The Left will demand that the NSA stops listening – ONLY after the GOP wins the Presidency.

They will march in the streets and chant cult slogans.

They are just putting down a weak marker now to say that they were against this when Obama was in power.

faraway on October 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM

The most striking thing about it is how relatively low-wattage the star power is.

Totalitarians don’t really mind when the government is acting like this, particularly when they do it for the progressive-fascist Obama agenda. It’s when there is a ‘R’ behind of the name of the guy in charge that they mind. That’s why Nixon was included for his abuses of power, but the abuses of power by Obama are ignored.

Exit question: If you’re trying to convince mainstream voters that opposing NSA policies is a perfectly sensible, mainstream thing to do, why would you put Oliver Stone in your PSA?

He needs something to do since Hugo Chavez is dead and he’s not being allowed to shill for Obamacare EpicClusterFarkNado 1.0.

Athos on October 24, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Here’s a tip for all the entertainers out there. If you don’t like government spying on everything you do or taking nearly everything you earn and redistributing that to others that don’t work…

you might want to stop supporting and voting for Socialist Dimocrats.

Just a thought.

Meople on October 24, 2013 at 5:37 PM

All I know is someone needs to stop this Nixon fellow. He sounds like a horrible person and clearly something needs to be done about him.

troyriser_gopftw on October 24, 2013 at 5:38 PM

It’s funny how any problem in the federal government was Boosh’ fault.

Now suddenly it’s apolitical individual bureacracies.

Nothing stops leftists faster on the Internet when you follow up with “Obama is in charge of the NSA” why are you not demanding he do something?”

I had one guy actually tell me that the NSA was not controlled by the executive office!

Skywise on October 24, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Snowden is not spying on my phone calls, emails and credit card statements, and anything else some pervert can think of, treating me like a criminal serf who can never be proven innocent It’s the anti-American abomination National Spy Agency that’s doing that.

Either the NSA dies or America does.
“In the end, there can be only one”.
The NSA is as incompatible with America as is Islam and for many of the same reasons.

Snowden shouldn’t even be the issue here, only a footnote. When a government becomes so totalitarian that it sets to spying, and in mass and in great detail, on it’s own people like they were all subjects, if not criminals, it is not doing so on their behalf. The Stasi wasn’t in East German and the N-Stasi-A isn’t in America. And this is on top of the TSA/Gropestapo molesting little girls and grandmas at our airports and largely giving middle easterners a pass. I don’t think the federal government has stopped a single attack, and has caused quite a number (Fort Hood, Boston, Benghazi, Navy Shipyard, Mexican invaders who kill so many and most every day), with their gross willful dereliction. I don’t care how many times Herr Hussein Obama and other N-Stasi-A supporters and apologists and lackeys tell me that’s Holy Water they are spraying on my leg to keep me safe, I know that it’s something very different – and it smells to high Heaven. If there were justice in the world, Snowden would be living it up in the White House and Obama and his N-Stasi-A criminals would be in hiding, maybe somewhere in North Korea, in a dark cave. subsisting on grass.

VorDaj on October 24, 2013 at 5:42 PM

It’s reverse psychology. They know they can get some subset of the mainstream to say, “Wait, if Oliver Stone is against it, it can’t be all bad.”

bobcalco on October 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Fedral Reserve isn’t a government agency. So why is it included in this poll of government agencies? Maybe part of what’s wrong with this country is that (R’s, D’s and I’s) don’t know enough about how our government functions, that they actually answered that line of the poll.

Paco on October 24, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Obama is never responsible for anything in their eyes. He’s always outraged or taken by surprise. It’s pathetic.

Jack_Burton on October 24, 2013 at 5:44 PM

When did Maggie Gyllenhaal start looking like a 60-year-old lesbian?

Mark1971 on October 24, 2013 at 5:45 PM

If you’re trying to convince mainstream voters that opposing NSA policies is a perfectly sensible, mainstream thing to do, why would you put Oliver Stone in your PSA?

Follow the money and the favors.

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM

He probably put up the money.

Tags: breitbart, cusack, ellsberg, gyllenhaal, NSA, snowden, spy, stone, surveillance

You forgot Wil Wheaton, Sheldon Coopers mortal enemy.

RickB on October 24, 2013 at 5:46 PM

When did Maggie Gyllenhaal start looking like a 60-year-old lesbian?

Mark1971 on October 24, 2013 at 5:45 PM

About age 18.

RickB on October 24, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Let’s see, I’ll go with the CDC (as long as they state away from the “gun violence is an epidemic” meme) and DoD due to the men and women who serve (upper brass I’m leery of) and, um, NASA (as long as they stay away from the Muslim outreach crap) and, er, ah, that’s about it. National Weather Service is ok when they stick to weather forecasts. The guys who fly into the hurricanes are pretty awesome.

rbj on October 24, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Support this

Schadenfreude on October 24, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Oh and Hollywood useful idiots?

The IRS has all your private medical records now and is actively spying on your medical health.

Skywise on October 24, 2013 at 5:50 PM

All I know is someone needs to stop this Nixon fellow. He sounds like a horrible person and clearly something needs to be done about him.

troyriser_gopftw on October 24, 2013 at 5:38 PM

They should’ve had a picture of Truman since he started it.

RickB on October 24, 2013 at 5:51 PM

When did Maggie Gyllenhaal start looking like a 60-year-old lesbian crack-whore?

Mark1971 on October 24, 2013 at 5:45 PM

You missed part….

dentarthurdent on October 24, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Maybe they’re just playing off the Ellsberg cameo in doing that, but it’s more likely the producers decided they’d get further in building resistance to the NSA among young liberals online if they decoupled the movement from criticism of Bambi. If you believe the polls, that’s a smart choice.

It’s as if Obama wasn’t the head of the executive branch of government. I guess these people just think he gets elected President, he never becomes President.

Bitter Clinger on October 24, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Flawlessly Produced.

Bmore on October 24, 2013 at 6:30 PM

It’s as if Obama wasn’t the head of the executive branch of government. I guess these people just think he gets elected President, he never becomes President.

Bitter Clinger on October 24, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Well, normally once you get elected you stop campaigning and start Presidentin’…..

dentarthurdent on October 24, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Though I would have slipped in this during the Nixon dissolves.

Bmore on October 24, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Killer question: So, celebs. Who’d you vote for in 2008? You had a do-over in 2012. Who’d you vote for then? Hmmm?

Don’t like government intrusion into your private & personal life? Welcome to the Tea Party.

kurtzz3 on October 24, 2013 at 6:50 PM

All I know is someone needs to stop this Nixon fellow. He sounds like a horrible person and clearly something needs to be done about him.

troyriser_gopftw on October 24, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Apparently that Kennedy fellow will save us from drowning in the sea of spies.

batterup on October 24, 2013 at 7:09 PM

I gave Electronic Frontier Foundation an earful on Twitter. They have a huge list of left and right supporters, but they chose only Dems and celebs to gain support.

What a failure at building a coalition and gain credibility.

Beck is right for being outraged.

StubbleSpark on October 24, 2013 at 7:11 PM

By the way, no response from @EFF so far. Some advocates will occasionally engage with differing opinions, but for anti-surveillance state crusaders, these guys seem a bit cowardly.

StubbleSpark on October 24, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Someone should deploy Team America to take care of this.

bbinfl on October 24, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Someone should deploy Team America to take care of this.

bbinfl on October 24, 2013 at 7:22 PM

“Do you know how f@cking busy I am?!!!!”

SubmarineDoc on October 24, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Here’s a tip for all the entertainers out there. If you don’t like government spying on everything you do or taking nearly everything you earn and redistributing that to others that don’t work…

you might want to stop supporting and voting for Socialist Dimocrats.

Just a thought.

Meople on October 24, 2013 at 5:37 PM

This +100,000,000.

Of course, trying to make them realize this is pretty futile. Is it any wonder they dumb down the game show questions when celebrities are on?!

Sterling Holobyte on October 25, 2013 at 1:35 AM

The Left votes in Obama, then cries tears that the NSA is spying on them.

They scream about Nixon, but never Obama.

When a Republican is in the White House, it’s his name. When a Democrat is in charge, it’s the invisible faceless “government” that’s to blame.

Liberals: Tunneling at rocket speed to the core of Planet Stupid.

thejackal on October 25, 2013 at 5:53 AM

“Do you know how f@cking busy I am?!!!!”

SubmarineDoc on October 24, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Just thought I’d drop by and say herro.

thejackal on October 25, 2013 at 5:54 AM

Looks like Justin Amash will join them….facepalm.

thebrokenrattle on October 25, 2013 at 9:14 AM

StubbleSpark on October 24, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Their Selected Signatories at stopwatchingus.com seem to sag heavily to the left, the far left with a couple fringe libertarian/tea party affiliates making up the right. This is an issue where the extremes of both sides meet up and agree.

thebrokenrattle on October 25, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Look out, NSA! We’ve got ACTORS to oppose you!

CrustyB on October 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

The Film Actors Guild. F.A.G.

Good going, FAG.

Nice job, FAG.

thejackal on October 25, 2013 at 1:29 PM