Dean: No, really, Republicans are to blame for ObamaCare fiasco

posted at 10:01 am on October 24, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Who’s to blame for the ObamaCare debacle? “First off all, in fairness,” Howard Dean told the Morning Joe crew earlier today, ou have to blame Republicans for some of this because they delayed everything they possibly could.” First we have to blame the party that (a) didn’t cast a single vote in favor of the ACA and (b) had no control over its 42-month rollout?  At which stage in the process do we hold responsible the people who spent $400 million in three and a half years, and who assured everyone all along the way that things were going swimmingly?

Probably 39th. Let’s not raise expectations too high (via Andrew Johnson at The Corner):

Dean went on to blame the Republican governors who wisely decided not to tempt fate with their own exchange systems:

“The problem is they shouldn’t have done a single-size-fits-all for the 36 states,” he continued. “Partly, I have to say, they had to do that because the Republican governors refused to accept exchanges.”

Dean went on to downplay the problems facing the websites, saying the glitches are “not big.”

Dean suggests that the White House should have built regional systems rather than national systems in order to make the process less complicated.  How exactly would that have helped? HHS couldn’t even build one system that connects the consumers to the insurers and the IRS properly, but they could have built four or five simultaneously?  That sounds like the kind of thinking that went into the Obama administration’s reform policies and managerial efforts on ObamaCare all along.

Democratic Senator Bill Nelson isn’t quite buying the blame-Republicans-first strategy. He wonders why no one’s been fired over the fiasco, and laments the lack of accountability in the Obama administration (via the Daily Caller):

Nelson said that someone may need to be fired once the problem-plagued federal Healthcare.gov website is up and running.

“That’s the problem in government today. People are not held to account,” he said.

Not if Howard Dean has anything to say about it, they aren’t.


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Bmore on October 24, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Now for the “perfect” commercial on this:

Bruce Willis clip:

Standing in building in Die Hard movie looking down at police car (relabel car: “Press and Democrats”) “Welcome to the party pal, as the body labeled “Healthcare.gov” lands on the car.

Cut back up to Bruce Willis labeled “Republican party”.

Mycroft_514 on October 24, 2013 at 11:42 AM

He’s right. Had Republicans cooperated it would be working smoothly and everyone happy. Instead it was shoved down our throats so resistance encountered, cooperation withheld.

Conversely, had Democrats accepted Republican suggestions of making policies transferrable between states and accepting tort reform, instead of busting a move on federalizing the whole thing, it would be sailing smoothly too with credit to both too. So, Dean, it is your foul Party and its inability to cooperate and share success that is to blame for lack of cooperation. Tea party equates you with early German nationalist. Come to think of it, you look kind of German there, rather Arian.

bour3 on October 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM

“People are not held to account…..” for the 22 trillion debt projected in January, 2014.

Who would that be, Howard?

NoPain on October 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Congressional hearings on the site failures, today – all testified that their systems are perfect.

Prognosis good – patient dead.

Schadenfreude on October 24, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Dean is the embodiment of all things progressive, batshit crazy, mean, vindictive, and committed to suppressing liberty and destroying opportunity for the sake of the democrat neopagan tribalism.

Murphy9 on October 24, 2013 at 11:55 AM

According to most of these democrats, nothing is wrong that blaming the republicans won’t fix.

dirtseller on October 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Hopefully we can now all appreciate Ted Cruz’s strategy. Refuse to fund this monster and when the dems eventually win that argument, let them flail about defending it.

dirtseller on October 24, 2013 at 11:57 AM

I don’t know: Blame Republicans? Blame programmers? Blame Canada?

All I know is: Don’t blame Obama! That’d be r@ciss.

Nomennovum on October 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM

I don’t know: Blame Republicans? Blame programmers? Blame Canada?

All I know is: Don’t blame Obama! That’d be r@ciss.

Nomennovum on October 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Dude, he just found out about it. You really are expecting way too much out of an empty suit.

dirtseller on October 24, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Ed, sorry to be a grammar ass, but your second sentence has a few issues.

Maybe the coffee hadn’t quite kicked in. Or perhaps your disbelief over Dean’s rock-solid stupidity flustered the fingers.

somewhatconcerned on October 24, 2013 at 12:02 PM

I’m a bit confused about the Bi-partisanism called for by the dems, after they crammed this piece of dung down our throats by themselves.

dirtseller on October 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Pelosi thinks the Republicans sabotaged healthcare.gov. Possibly with a virus?

Any similarities between this debacle and the NSA/Snowden debacle?

Herald of Woe on October 24, 2013 at 12:05 PM

It’s almost as if they intentially designed the system to fail in such a way where they could easily blame republicans for it.

heretic on October 24, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Pelosi thinks the Republicans sabotaged healthcare.gov. Possibly with a virus?

Any similarities between this debacle and the NSA/Snowden debacle?

Herald of Woe on October 24, 2013 at 12:05 PM

It was Iran. Stuxnet II: The Revenge (opens nationwide on New Years Day)

BobMbx on October 24, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I blame Bush.

Chris of Rights on October 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM

I blame George Washington. I mean, he’s the one who started this whole mess, isn’t he?

NavyMustang on October 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Obviously, it’s the fault of Abraham Lincoln…the first Republican president.

Solaratov on October 24, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Mark my words. The Dems and the MSM will repeat this often enough and the LIVs will believe it. This will become a mayor Republic scandal. Remember Katrina?

neuquenguy on October 24, 2013 at 12:15 PM

“Fix it not nix it”

They’ve even got a slogan to cover their failure!

PetecminMd on October 24, 2013 at 12:18 PM

“Fix it not nix it”

Now that they have a slogan, Al and Jessee can be unleashed.

BacaDog on October 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM

That’s like blaming the guy walking ahead of you for not stepping in a turd your dog left on the sidewalk, that you end up stepping in. The GOP recognized this dog turd from the get-go…

JohnGalt23 on October 24, 2013 at 11:17 AM

No, it’s like they took a dump on your carpet against your will while you were incapacitated and are now demanding that you help scrub the stains out.

crrr6 on October 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Actually, it’s as though they gave a party, to which you weren’t invited and which you didn’t attend. Somebody shat on their rug and broke their stereo…and they now demand that you have the rug cleaned and repair their stereo.
It’s obviously your fault that those things happened because you weren’t there to keep the party within acceptable limits.
So…Buck up,filthy terrorist! (and, btw, shut up, he explained)

Solaratov on October 24, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Nelson said that someone may need to be fired once the problem-plagued federal Healthcare.gov website is up and running.

“That’s the problem in government today. People are not held to account,” he said.

Nelson is part right – in today’s government, people are not held accountable and responsible for their actions or incompetence.

But the concept of waiting until the site is up and running BEFORE sacking the incompetent and ineffective is not holding people accountable or responsible either.

And isn’t that approach basically Einstein’s theory of insanity – using the same incompetent and ineffective leadership a second time, and expecting them to ‘fix’ what they couldn’t do right the first time?

And the concept of the Democrats blaming the GOP for all that goes wrong is far from a new one….they also tried to blame the GOP for the IRS scandal

This is little more than the typical juvenile deflection from the progressives. They don’t make mistakes. The administration doesn’t make mistakes. Big government remains more competent, effective, and efficient than the private sector (after all it was private sector companies that wrote the code), and it’s all the fault of the GOP for not being supportive of the ACA and trying to defund or delay it.

Athos on October 24, 2013 at 12:43 PM

No Really, you can’t blame Obama because he was playing golf on Martha’s Vineyard.

Fleuries on October 24, 2013 at 12:44 PM

What happened to the brown cat that was sitting on his head the last time this fool was let out of his cage?

pain train on October 24, 2013 at 12:49 PM

What an embarrassment. How does someone grow up, becomes a doctor, then a governor, runs for the Presidency & lose his self respect along the way?

RdLake on October 24, 2013 at 12:52 PM

“That’s the problem in government today. People Democrats are not held to account,” Nelson said.
There I fixed it!

kregg on October 24, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Every time this j@ck@ss Dean opens his mouth, it has a magical “dog whistle” effect on me….with good reason. MSNBC viewer scare the cr@p out of me with both their ignorance, and what they know that ain’t so.

olesparkie on October 24, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Republicans didn’t do this:

Hidden in ObamaCare Site: Applicants Surrender Right to Privacy

During Thursday’s congressional hearing with the contractors responsible for building the troubled ObamaCare federal exchanges, we learned that whether you end up enrolling in ObamaCare or not, no one who puts any information into the ObamaCare website can expect to have their privacy protected. Moreover, the fact that you are giving up your right to privacy is hidden in source code that reads, “You have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding any communication of any data transmitted or stored on this information system.”

During his questioning on this specific issue, Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) only received chilling answers and deflections from the primary contractor responsible for the site. When he asked Cheryl Campbell of CGI about it, her icy response was that another contractor was responsible. After some pressuring, she finally admitted that she was aware of the hidden source code.

Just a few minutes earlier, however, Ms. Campbell testified under oath that the ObamaCare website is HIPAA compliant — meaning everyone’s medical and personal information is protected by law. The privacy section on the ObamaCare website says your privacy will be protected. The hidden source code seems to say, “just kidding.”

INC on October 24, 2013 at 1:33 PM

What we’re seeing here is the same sort of excess we see on many government projects.

The people tasked with writing the regulations that have been added to Obamacare’s original 2000 plus pages have just continued to add because each bureaucrat who had access and couldadd regulations did so and kept doing so, with no regard to the body of the legislation, simply to try and justify their job and garner approval up the bureaucratic chain. Hence we now have a gargantuan 10,535 pages of law, rules and regulations, many of which either openly contradict one another or are simply redundancies.

The same applies to the code written for the Obamacare enrollment site, with the added wrinkle of software developers who just kept writing code because the White House and HHS kept changing their mind about what they wanted the site to do and to look like, but also because these software developers kept getting paid a lucrative government check as long as they were still industriously writing code. So… rather than 25-50 million lines of code the site is now up to a ridiculous and unwieldy 500 million lines of code.

There is a reason that important government projects have historically employed strict managerial control. The cost overruns and excesses of bureaucracy must be kept under control… or you end up with The Affordable Care Act at 11,588,500 words… and the companion enrollment website at 500 million lines of code.

If this government project, Obamacare, had been a federal highway, the entire United States would now be buried 100 feet deep under multiple layers of roadway.

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Translation: Why didn’t you stop us from stopping you from stopping us?! YEEEEEAAARGH!

Christien on October 24, 2013 at 1:37 PM

If this government project, Obamacare, had been a federal highway, the entire United States would now be buried 100 feet deep under multiple layers of roadway.

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Good analogy!

INC on October 24, 2013 at 1:52 PM

One of the most ardent purveyors of single-payer, finds that 36 states on one system is too taxing. Awesome.

BKeyser on October 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Meanwhile on Drudge

Schadenfreude on October 24, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Dean went on to downplay the problems facing the websites, saying the glitches are “not big.”

Calling these utter failures “glitches” is like calling the Grand Canyon a “hole in the ground”.

And given that most non-partisan web developers are calling for an entire scrapping and re-do of just the website, add another $400 million or more to the costs.

JetBoy on October 24, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Translation: Why didn’t you stop us from stopping you from stopping us?! YEEEEEAAARGH!

Christien on October 24, 2013 at 1:37 PM

ROFL!

dentarthurdent on October 24, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Congressional hearings on the site failures, today – all testified that their systems are perfect.

Prognosis good – patient dead.

Schadenfreude on October 24, 2013 at 11:53 AM

This made me chuckle, and reminded me of the bad old days when surgeons would say that the operation was a success but the patient died.

Fafhrd on October 24, 2013 at 2:24 PM

“Oh go blow it out your ass, Howard.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On73aHpgdSQ

Stu Gotts on October 24, 2013 at 2:40 PM

I opened up a dictionary to look up the word ‘stupid,’ and all I found was a picture of Howard Dean.

chewmeister on October 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM

A good percentage of the voting public is low-information in anything related to politics, so I can see why Dems keep using this argument. Say it long enough and most of those same voters will believe it…

zoyclem on October 24, 2013 at 4:15 PM

What an embarrassment. How does someone grow up, becomes a doctor, then a governor, runs for the Presidency & lose his self respect along the way?

RdLake on October 24, 2013 at 12:52 PM

By moving to the Socialist Utopia of Vermont!

Del Dolemonte on October 24, 2013 at 5:08 PM

So does this mean that Howard Dean is responsible for the outcome of the Iraq War because he opposed it and tried to thwart President Bush and the Republicans who voted to fund the troops?

txmomof6 on October 24, 2013 at 8:15 PM

“That’s the problem in government today. People are not held to account,” he said.

That’s only true if they’re Democrats. As this story plainly shows, Republicans are blamed even when Democrats screw up.

There Goes the Neighborhood on October 25, 2013 at 2:09 AM

No, it’s not Republicans fault. It’s George W. Bush’s fault. Howard Dean is a typical scum of the earth lowlife liberal Democrat. He has low intelligence, just like all democrats. Not a single Republican voted for this stupid law. So, the scum of the earth lowlife liberal Democrats own it. I can’t wait until the 2014 election and watch these lowlife Idiots squirm and see how many lies they tell. When they loose, it will be George W. Bush’s fault. This is so funny.

tmgrant on October 25, 2013 at 7:13 AM

Well, they did fire that call center rep that talked to Hannity … guess she was the problem and the culprit in this otherwise peachy roll-out.

mel23059 on October 25, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Its amazing how conviently OUT OF THE LOOP obama is for all failures so has no PERSONAL RESPONSIBLITIY.

But was in on the Bin Laden Raid from start to finish

but was not around for Benghazi

And in all the hype on how great it is
Obama NEVER asked his staff “say how is it going”??

I mean even in between riding between golf holes.

sniffles1999 on October 25, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Dean is the embodiment of all things progressive, batshit crazy, mean, vindictive, and committed to suppressing liberty and destroying opportunity for the sake of the democrat neopagan tribalism.

Murphy9 on October 24, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Exactly. Add to that “self-important, pseudo-intellectual statist”.

It’s very important to keep Dean around, like a stuffed-animal exhibit, so people can see what a neolithic liberal is like.

virgo on October 26, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I opened up a dictionary to look up the word ‘stupid,’ and all I found was a picture of Howard Dean.

chewmeister on October 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Please take a lesson. He’s not stupid. All the Democrats are saying exactly the same thing. It’s scripted.

He’s not stupid, he’s evil.

Everything that needs to be said about the Democratic party is embodied in the simple fact that they’re united in their efforts to lay the blame for their absurd failures on the opposition party, knowing perfectly well that it is not true.

There is simply no excuse for this conduct from adults; it is immoral in the extreme.

philwynk on October 26, 2013 at 4:23 PM

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