Rubio: I’m introducing a bill to delay the individual mandate until the ObamaCare website is fixed

posted at 11:21 am on October 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

Smart politics. It won’t pass, but then it’s not really designed to.

He said all he is calling for is a delay on the requirement until the U.S. General Accounting Office certifies the Web site is working and has been functioning for six consecutive months.

Rubio said he’s hopeful the measure will pass, especially as the deadline draws closer. “As weeks go on, there’s going to be a look for a solution to the problem. It’s not fair to punish people for buying something that’s not available,” he said. “Quite frankly, I think that’s where we’re going to have to wind up anyway. You saw yesterday, the White House didn’t rule out a delay. Jay Carney didn’t rule it out because they understand that the problems that this web site faces are significant and are going to be very difficult to fix in a number of weeks.”

Says one commenter in Headlines of Rubio’s bill, “It would collapse the insurance market.” Indeed it would, potentially. Delay the mandate for months and you’re all but guaranteeing that healthy uninsured people won’t sign up soon, which means insurers won’t have the new revenue they were banking on to cover sick people’s preexisting conditions. Voila — you’ve created the conditions for an industry death spiral. Democrats know it too, just like they also know that they’re not getting anything like single-payer through Congress so long as there’s a Republican majority in the House. So they have no choice but to oppose Rubio’s bill and defeat it in the Senate, even though doing so will make for terrible politics. There are lots and lots and lots of things the public doesn’t understand about ObamaCare, but one thing everyone understands is that it’s unfair to punish people for not doing something the government’s made it all but impossible for them to do. Rubio’s bill essentially forces Democrats to argue that it is fair somehow in the name of keeping the mandate in effect. Would they rather do that or would they rather delay the entire law to make sure the death spiral doesn’t happen?

A separate, mostly academic question related to this is whether delaying the mandate requires Congress to pass something or whether Obama can just decide to do it on his own. His defenders, naturally, say he has unilateral authority to do it; he could invoke a “hardship” exemption under the law to declare that, because Healthcare.gov isn’t working, “no affordable qualified health plan available through the Exchange” exists for millions of people and therefore they’re off the hook on paying any penalty. That would allow him to bypass Rubio and the Republicans in setting up some sort of mandate delay, but it doesn’t solve his death-spiral problem. If O-Care fans have now reached the point where they’re gaming out the best legal strategy for putting off the mandate for awhile, we’re well into “nightmare” territory for the left.

Exit question: How many uninsured low-information voters know that the penalty for not signing up for insurance isn’t $95 but rather the higher of $95 or one percent of income? Megan McArdle included that in her list of four overlooked points about the health-care rollout a few days ago and I’ve been wondering about it ever since. Imagine you’re 25, uninsured, and generating $40,000 in income annually. The media’s given you the impression lately that you’ll have to cough up 95 bucks next March if you don’t get covered. Not so; you’ll have to cough up 400 bucks. Imagine how surprised lots of uninsured people will be when they finally find out how much they’re in for.


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Do I think that the Tea Party would have selected Todd Akin from a pool of applicants as “the Tea Party candidate?” Probably not. But the fact remains that he ran in the primary as the Tea Party candidate against the Establishment, and he ran in the general election as the Tea Party candidate against the Establishment.

He was NOT the TP candidate.

Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., and Democratic outside groups, pouring in over $1 million during Missouri’s Republican Senate primary, got the guy they wanted: Rep. Todd Akin, who Tuesday upset two other Republicans to take the GOP nomination.

Recent polls have shown McCaskill trailing all three Republicans in head-to-head matchups, but Akin has the smallest edge. She is betting voters will see the six-term congressman — who gave “thanks to God our creator” in his victory speech and has been endorsed by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, an evangelical Christian — as too conservative.

Late in the primary, McCaskill hit TV and radio airwaves “criticizing” Akin, seen at right, as too conservative, a thinly veiled attempt to boost his chances in a primary where the GOP’s right wing would have a disproportionate impact. The radio ad was paid for by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

Who did Palin endorse? Sarah Steelman

Steelman was also endorsed by Maggie’s List, the Susan B. Anthony Candidate Fund, ShePAC and the Value in Electing Women (VIEW) PAC.

Tea Party Express Proudly Endorses Sarah Steelman for U.S. Senate

FreedomWorks to Endorse Brunner in Missouri Senate Primary

Akin was endorsed by Huckabee, no Tea Partier he.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

…and Rubio ain’t no Cruz, for sure. It’s what irritates Rubio.

Schadenfreude on October 22, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Thank you for proving my point. It’s always about personality, not policy.

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Rubio is my senator. I changed affiliations and gave money to get him elected. His problem is not that he is saying the same thing as Sen. Cruz, it is that he is promoting amnesty. Everything he says and does is colored by that fact. I went to my first Tea Party while the primaries were going on in 2008. The Tea Party was the product of TARP more than Obama. And who gave us TARP? This fiscal chaos has got to stop and I am sorry that it appears that the Tea Party is more interested in that than the establishment.

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Another Rubio dog and pony show with no product available.
Does he really think this will redeem his betrayal on amnesty?

Don L on October 22, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Bingo!

Wigglesworth on October 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

[Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 1:29 PM]

I agree with both of your points, Cindy, and very well put.

Dusty on October 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

…and Rubio ain’t no Cruz, for sure. It’s what irritates Rubio. He is a Punk who savored glory too soon in life.

Schadenfreude on October 22, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Interesting thing is, for all his slickness he’s incredibly obtuse, politically speaking.

rrpjr on October 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

OBAMASCARE: WOMAN FALLS ILL IN ROSE GARDEN!
CONSUMER REPORTS: ‘Stay away’…
FOURNIER: Worse Than We Know…
Spanish website completely down…
Woman Featured in Administration Ad Spent 3 Days Enrolling…
Man Spends 4.5 Hours on Phone But Still Can’t Sign Up…
Hannity Gets Through, Operator Says No One Likes It…
WH busted pushing false account of success…
NBA Stars Promote in CA…
CRUZ: ‘Nigerian Email Scammers’ Running Website…
Zero Enrollments in New York?
Democrats warm to ‘delay’…

–Drudge

Congratulations Rubio, you Punk…just threw them a life-line.

Schadenfreude on October 22, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Akin was endorsed by Huckabee, no Tea Partier he.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

You’re too factual. You throw the RINOs off :)

Schadenfreude on October 22, 2013 at 1:40 PM

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 1:34 PM

You say this

If conservative voters fall for the conceit that just because a candidate is not from the establishment and that they’re a “fighter”…

You’re losing me then. If all three candidates were tea party candidates then a vote for any R would be ‘falling for’ a conceit. So don’t vote for the R?

To your other point, it will be interesting to see if Palin works hard for Ayotte a 2nd time around, or whether she takes a ‘fool me once not twice’ posture.

Chomsky Dance Recital on October 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., and Democratic outside groups, pouring in over $1 million during Missouri’s Republican Senate primary, got the guy they wanted: Rep. Todd Akin, who Tuesday upset two other Republicans to take the GOP nomination.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Is that the measuring stick we’re using to determine a candidate’s lack of tea-party authenticity? If you say so…

Sharron Angle has her fans; she’s been endorsed by Mark Levin, Erick Erickson of RedState, and the Club for Growth. Ultimately, this is a choice for Nevada Republicans; if they conclude that Angle’s no-holds-barred conservatism is what they want to represent them, they’re free to make that choice. But they shouldn’t be surprised to see 70-year-old Harry Reid doing cartwheels shortly thereafter. [...] Will that be enough to save Harry Reid in a state with high unemployment, the state hardest hit by the housing crash? Perhaps not, but he clearly prefers his odds against Angle to those against the other options.

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Good News: Insane McVain Says He Is “Seriously Thinking About” Another Run For President In 2016…
The man is seriously delusional.
Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Cindy needs to have him committed, locked in a rubber room.
The man is one firing synapse away from :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktqa1CnOYH8

LegendHasIt on October 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM

So, someone who makes under $9,500 per year, who is far under the poverty line, has to pay a disproportionate penalty if he or she doesn’t have insurance.

Turtle317 on October 22, 2013 at 11:31 AM

I don’t believe that’s correct.
Individuals or families who fall below income-tax filing thresholds would not owe anything or get subsides to offset health insurance costs. People who are unemployed or cannot find a policy that costs less than 8%(?) of their modified adjusted gross income would also be exempt from penalties under the individual mandate.

lynncgb on October 22, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Rubio is Rubio, but this is good politics. I want Republicans to keep pushing for defunding and delaying, alternating between the two, because it does two things:

(1) It puts pressure on Democrats from red states and could split the Democratic Party as this debacle goes on.

(2) It makes the president dig in his heals even more. Obama does not want to look weak and make it look like he is being overcome by GOP pressure. See the shutdown as proof. His ego won’t allow him to compromise his most important accomplishment.

They need to push for repeal – no delays. They need to say that ACA is broken and can’t be fixed. That would be good policy.

Democrats don’t split – Republicans do.

Obama always looks weak.

alanstern on October 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Work harder

Schadenfreude on October 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM

You’re losing me then. If all three candidates were tea party candidates then a vote for any R would be ‘falling for’ a conceit. So don’t vote for the R?

Chomsky Dance Recital on October 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

That isn’t my point at all. There are some candidates who ran under the tea-party banner who have great political acumen – Kelly Ayotte, Ron Johnson, Marco Rubio, Pat Toomey, Mike Lee. With the exception of Johnson, who was an established presence in Wisconsin and worked his ass off to unite the state party behind him before he ran, they all had proven political records. State offices, running for Congress in competitive districts, and so forth. And with the exception of Lee, they all won in states Obama won twice.

This is the kind of talent that should be sought out. Not excuse candidates like who’s-his-face challenging McConnell.

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Didn’t the House just pass such a bill a couple of weeks ago or am I missing something? Rubio is working hard on restoring his credibility with conservatives. The only way he could save himself would be to admit his support of amnesty was a mistake and vow never to support it again. Even then, he has an uphill battle.

cajunpatriot on October 22, 2013 at 1:53 PM

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Nice attempt at deflection. We were talking about Akin, who did not receive the endorsements of Palin, Freedom Works, Tea Party Express, etc.

But, according to you, Akin was ‘the’ Tea Party candidate.

Of course, it’s not the first time that you’ve been proven wrong.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 1:54 PM

How many uninsured low-information voters know that the penalty for not signing up for insurance isn’t $95 but rather the higher of $95 or one percent of income?

Also don’t forget, in 2015 it rises to the greater of $325 or 2 percent of income. And the penalty in 2016 rises once again, reaching $695, or 2.5 percent of income, whichever is greater. From 2017, the minimum tax-penalty per person will rise each year with inflation. And for children 18 and under, the minimum per-person tax is half of that for adults. The tax-penalty will also be pro-rated, so that a person who is not covered for only a single month would pay 1/12th of the tax that would be due for the full year.

lynncgb on October 22, 2013 at 1:56 PM

KingGold I would say that Senators Rubio and Cruz are pretty much in the same boat. They both came out with views that could not be supported by conservatives and/or establishment. As long as they do not throw their hats into the ring this time out, both will probably recoup. Only people with an adoring cultish media can do what Obama did and I think it is safe to say that both men can count on vilification in astounding measure.

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 1:58 PM

in 2016 it goes up.:

Less than $9,500 income = $0
$9,500 – $37,000 income = $695
$50,000 income = $1,000
$75,000 income = $1,600
$100,000 income = $2,250
$125,000 income = $2,900
$150,000 income = $3,500
$175,000 income = $4,100
$200,000 income = $4,700
Over $200,000 = The cost of a “bronze” health-insurance plan

LegendHasIt on October 22, 2013 at 2:00 PM

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I don’t know very much about McConnell’s challenger yet so I’ll leave it there for now.

Chomsky Dance Recital on October 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM

“Smart Politics”? Are you kidding?

Rubio is just trying to cover up his Amnesty re-emergence. And
we conservatives all know it and laugh at him.

Amjean on October 22, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 1:58 PM

I’m sorry, but I can’t see any equivalence between how Cruz is treated and how Rubio is treated.

Many people were whitewashing Cruz’s stance on the thread last night, or at the very least criticizing him more in sorrow than in anger. Meanwhile, half the commenters on this thread are basically calling for Rubio to be primaried and burned at the stake, preferably in that order. And the only reason for that is that Rubio’s not “in the club” any more. It’s tribalism at its very worst.

What’s Rubio’s huge offense? Working on the Gang of Eight bill that has zero chance of becoming law – or perhaps I should say just as much chance of becoming law as a far more liberal package made without his involvement would.

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

And the only reason for that is that Rubio’s not “in the club” any more. It’s tribalism at its very worst.

What’s Rubio’s huge offense? Working on the Gang of Eight bill that has zero chance of becoming law – or perhaps I should say just as much chance of becoming law as a far more liberal package made without his involvement would.

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

No, it’s because he said this to get elected:

Make Marco Rubio Eat His Own Words

What is happening to Rubio is the direct result of betraying his own constituents and saying one thing to get elected and another once elected.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 2:15 PM

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

You can’t see it because you don’t want to see it. And Rubio being in “the club” is one of the problems but it’s your club. You say Rubio working with the gang of eight has zero chance of succeeding while jumping on Cruz for his fight against Obamacare where the establishment used the same exact argument, that nothing was going to happen. The public doesn’t want Obamacare but KStreet wants “immigration reform” so excuse the hell out of those who can see who is getting taken care of.

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Chomsky Dance Recital on October 22, 2013 at 2:01 PM

That’s okay, we don’t have to fit in any particular category, I want McConnell to be reelected to his seat.

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM

I’m shocked!!!!!!!!! This McCain lite moron is again playing both sides of the political divide. Just wait amigo your time is up and I hope you are sent packing next election cycle.
You are the problem not part of the solution.

2eagles on October 22, 2013 at 2:24 PM

First Rubio has an amnesty enabling bill. Now he has a single payer enabling bill. He is a very good democrat.

bgibbs1000 on October 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Rubio doesn’t realize you can’t remove the stain of being a liar. You can make and honest mistake and redeem yourself, but not out right lies.

Panther on October 22, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Uh, define an acceptable measure for, “fixed”.

jake49 on October 22, 2013 at 3:26 PM

What’s Rubio’s huge offense? Working on the Gang of Eight bill that has zero chance of becoming law – or perhaps I should say just as much chance of becoming law as a far more liberal package made without his involvement would.

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

So, your story is that he knew the bill would fail, but decided to make a big, fat LIAR out of himself anyway???

Here’s Rubio in debate with Charlie Crist, 2010:
“First of all, earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty. It’s what they call it. And the reality of it is this. This has to do with the bottom line that America cannot be the only country in the world that does not enforce its immigration laws.

It is unfair to the people that have legally entered this country to create an alternative pathway for individuals who entered illegally and knowingly did so.”

Sorry, but nobody MADE this guy do a total 180 on amnesty. He chose that for himself. And now that the entire country KNOWS he lied to get the job, he’s going to have to deal with the fallout of that.

Florida DESERVES better than Marco Rubio, and so do we all. This guy got a rock star greeting from American conservatives, and he chose to throw it all away by showing himself to be nothing but just another lying, pandering, political opportunist. So, the best thing we could do at this point, is to primary him (and defeat him) as an example to others who choose to lie to us.

Marco Rubio needs to end up as a cautionary tale for wannabe Republican candidates.

Murf76 on October 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM

That isn’t my point at all. There are some candidates who ran under the tea-party banner who have great political acumen moral cowardice, refusal to face economic reality and treachery

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM

FIFY, Princess Pyrite.

ebrown2 on October 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM

So, your story is that he knew the bill would fail, but decided to make a big, fat LIAR out of himself anyway???

Here’s Rubio in debate with Charlie Crist, 2010:
“First of all, earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty. It’s what they call it. And the reality of it is this. This has to do with the bottom line that America cannot be the only country in the world that does not enforce its immigration laws.

It is unfair to the people that have legally entered this country to create an alternative pathway for individuals who entered illegally and knowingly did so.”

Sorry, but nobody MADE this guy do a total 180 on amnesty. He chose that for himself. And now that the entire country KNOWS he lied to get the job, he’s going to have to deal with the fallout of that.

Florida DESERVES better than Marco Rubio, and so do we all. This guy got a rock star greeting from American conservatives, and he chose to throw it all away by showing himself to be nothing but just another lying, pandering, political opportunist. So, the best thing we could do at this point, is to primary him (and defeat him) as an example to others who choose to lie to us.

Marco Rubio needs to end up as a cautionary tale for wannabe Republican candidates.

Murf76 on October 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Princess Pyrite has already demonstrated an addiction to lies in this thread, c.f. the false accusation that Akin was the “Tea Party Candidate” in the Missouri Senate race of 2012 when he was the -establishment- candidate and Huckabee stooge that Claire McCaskill poured advertising dollars into.

ebrown2 on October 22, 2013 at 3:42 PM

So, your story is that he knew the bill would fail, but decided to make a big, fat LIAR out of himself anyway???

Here’s Rubio in debate with Charlie Crist, 2010:
“First of all, earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty. It’s what they call it. And the reality of it is this. This has to do with the bottom line that America cannot be the only country in the world that does not enforce its immigration laws.

It is unfair to the people that have legally entered this country to create an alternative pathway for individuals who entered illegally and knowingly did so.”

Sorry, but nobody MADE this guy do a total 180 on amnesty. He chose that for himself. And now that the entire country KNOWS he lied to get the job, he’s going to have to deal with the fallout of that.

Florida DESERVES better than Marco Rubio, and so do we all. This guy got a rock star greeting from American conservatives, and he chose to throw it all away by showing himself to be nothing but just another lying, pandering, political opportunist. So, the best thing we could do at this point, is to primary him (and defeat him) as an example to others who choose to lie to us.

Marco Rubio needs to end up as a cautionary tale for wannabe Republican candidates.

Murf76 on October 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM

When you have less integrity than Governor Ooompa Loompa, you don’t deserve to be a dogcatcher, let alone a U.S. Senator.

ebrown2 on October 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Why wouldn’t The President seize on this lifeline given to him by Sen. Rubio?

Only the truly insane could believe that there will be no delay in the mandate. this gives the Democrats just the thing they need to be able to blame the whole thing on the Tea Party.

Better to push to enforce the lawful deadline on BOTH the individual and the Corporate. We need those young folks to get socked with the $400 penalty in the election year.

Sinner on October 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM

You can’t see it because you don’t want to see it.

Cindy Munford

RINOking is a hypocrite. Hopefully everyone here has figured that out by now. Look no further than his clueless defense of Rubio’s push for amnesty while labeling Cruz as the devil for daring to push a repeal of Obamacare. In both cases, he defends the democrat point of view. That’s why he’s the RINOKIng

xblade on October 22, 2013 at 3:48 PM

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Now you’re just losing big.

Bmore on October 22, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Don’t delay it now, that would be doing Obama a huge favor.

Make Obama and the Democrats own their ObamaCare failures.

RJL on October 22, 2013 at 3:50 PM

xblade on October 22, 2013 at 3:48 PM

The funny thing is that in some ways I agree with him. I’m not a GOP do or die person but I’m not willing to give up on Rubio yet and I’m not big on getting rid of all our current Republican office holders either. We have a finite amount of time and funds and I have think several of our guys (McConnell and Rubio for examples) will find it easier to stay the conservative line if they aren’t being constantly being castigated for not “compromising”. Except for McCain, he has to go.

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 4:01 PM

RJL on October 22, 2013 at 3:50 PM

While I agree that Marco should STFU, I think The Won is in such a leadership deficit right now that the only thing for him to do is “fix” this by decree.

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 4:03 PM

>Obama always looks weak.

Yeah… election # 1 – 192 electoral vote a*s-kicking.

Election # 2 – 126 electoral vote thumping.

Keep praying to be so weak.

inklake on October 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

HECK NO! Let it crumble! Its funny watching the chickens run around with their heads cut off!

watertown on October 22, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Keep praying to be so weak.

inklake on October 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

This is winning for you eh?

Bmore on October 22, 2013 at 5:01 PM

inklake on October 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I was concerned about you in your absence. I had wondered if you had missed my note to you. I tried to pass the note to you quiently due to security concerns.

Bmore on October 22, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Sorry inklake, should read quietly.

Bmore on October 22, 2013 at 5:06 PM

I see Rbio’s point but I’m thinking we (GOP) should just say out of the way and let the “train wreck” happen..:)

Dire Straits on October 22, 2013 at 6:02 PM

I see Rubio’s point but I’m thinking we (GOP) should just say out of the way and let the “train wreck” happen..:)

Dire Straits on October 22, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Sorry..Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on October 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM

I’m not willing to give up on Rubio yet.
Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 4:01 PM

You’ve got the forbearance of a saint. I think he’s a slick little suck-up and liar and phobically risk-averse Establishment water boy and exactly what we’re trying to leave behind in this party. Whether he lied about his original position on amnesty or just changed his mind, he relentlessly lied through his teeth about the bill he supported during the entire process. He told two different things to his Spanish-speaking and English audiences. When he finally realized he couldn’t double and triple down his way through it and wasn’t going to get his way with a big “victory”, he suddenly went into hiding. Now he’s re-emerging to throw around some bogus red meat like the bet-hedging little suck-up that he is. This guy is the quintessential phony.

rrpjr on October 22, 2013 at 6:15 PM

rrpjr on October 22, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Lucky for him I don’t speak Spanish. I will have to admit that I’d like to kick his azz til his nose bleeds but it’s nothing personal, just a little life lesson.

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 6:19 PM

I see Rubio’s point but I’m thinking we (GOP) should just stay out of the way and let the “train wreck” happen..:)

Dire Straits on October 22, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Sorry..Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on October 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Finally.:)

Dire Straits on October 22, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2013 at 6:19 PM

LoLz..I think Rubio has gotten the message..:)

Dire Straits on October 22, 2013 at 6:34 PM

>Obama always looks weak.

Yeah… election # 1 – 192 electoral vote a*s-kicking.

Election # 2 – 126 electoral vote thumping.

Keep praying to be so weak.

inklake on October 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Eat garbage. 50,000,000 flies can’t be wrong.

Obama has the stupid vote locked up, but I don’t see how that makes him look strong. He has no leadership skills. His entire campaign and presidency can basically be summed up as blaming Repulbicans for everything.

talkingpoints on October 22, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Great, so let’s bail Obama out so he can save face?!?! Good idea, Rubio…you quisling!

Levinite on October 22, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Rubio is a back-stabber.

David Blue on October 22, 2013 at 7:38 PM

This is not smart politics. Despite the fact that Obamacare itself remains unpopular, the efforts of Republicans to put the skids on it have hurt them politically. They’ve done enough to oppose this thing for now. Let the thing play out and the Democrat party bear the consequences.

Reggie1971 on October 22, 2013 at 7:50 PM

I’m introducing a bill to delay the individual mandate until the ObamaCare website is fixed

Late to this party and probably already said, but why not introduce a bill to kill this POS in its entirety.

Or you could have been more helpful during the defund debacle.

Idiot.

kim roy on October 22, 2013 at 8:21 PM

“It’s not fair to punish people for buying something that’s not available.”

like celluose fuel blends…..

dmacleo on October 22, 2013 at 8:41 PM

KingGold isn’t interested in the truth. KingGold is only interested in playing a conservative-bashing contrarian in every HotAir thread. Every political site has a few tiresome attention-seekers like this.

bluegill on October 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Go away, boy, you bother me, in my best WC Fields imitation.

claudius on October 22, 2013 at 9:41 PM

KingGold isn’t interested in the truth. KingGold is only interested in playing a conservative-bashing
contrarian in every HotAir thread. Every political site has a few tiresome attention-seekers like this.
bluegill on October 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Self awareness from stinkfish?

evolution!

Murphy9 on October 23, 2013 at 4:45 AM

Many people were whitewashing Cruz’s stance on the thread last night, or at the very least criticizing him more in sorrow than in anger. Meanwhile, half the commenters on this thread are basically calling for Rubio to be primaried and burned at the stake, preferably in that order. And the only reason for that is that Rubio’s not “in the club” any more. It’s tribalism at its very worst.

What’s Rubio’s huge offense? Working on the Gang of Eight bill that has zero chance of becoming law – or perhaps I should say just as much chance of becoming law as a far more liberal package made without his involvement would.

KingGold on October 22, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Rubio’s offense is amnesty – which is still very much alive despite your claims.

His next offense is that he is now helping Obama with this delay. the delay idea only helps Obama, Obamacare and the DNC. Why would any GOP person do that?

I don’t understand how stupid these people are. I honestly do not. Either they want to help the dems or they are complete and utter idiots and therefore help the dems through shear stupidity.

Hey – obamacare is having huge problems. We don’t like obamacare. Therefore, let’s help them by giving them time to solve the obamacare problems.

Makes perfect sense.

Monkeytoe on October 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM

“It’s not fair to punish people for (not) buying something that’s not available.”

But it was fair to punish people by making them buy something they didn’t want when it is available? Seriously?

New Dem slogan to replace “Power to the People:” “Punish the People.”

Forward. You’re a racist and it’s all Bush’s fault.

NoPain on October 23, 2013 at 8:44 AM

IF- and it may be a big if- John Roberts hasn’t been gotten to. His strategy may pay off.

When he pushed the Obamacare nightmare BACK on the people who voted the idiots in who designed and passed the law, I sincerely believe he figured the voters would realize how bad it was and vote for Romney.

It isn’t Roberts fault that the we have demographically changed. And as I pointed out to my buddy who was screaming about Ted Cruz, the elected official’s job is to represent HIS constituents. I’ll blog about that later.

I pointed out to him in a decade or sooner entire sections of Congress will be represented by Hispanic Congressmen. When those congressmen act out on behalf of “their people” as Cruz did for the tea party, will he be as apoplectic? He suddenly got quiet.

Point is Roberts’ job, as he saw it, was not to “guide” the nation away from stupid and dangerous decisions made by their ELECTED representatives. That is OUR job. We failed in 2012.

However, as in Citizen United, he should step in when the first citizen is harmed by the government and stop it. We’ll see if they got to him at that point. Already the lawsuits are starting. The FIRST citizen who gets dinged by the IRS for not getting insurance from a website that doesn’t work should file, and they will win.

Obama’s people know it (He’s too stupid and narcissistic. Seriously he IS what the Greeks wrote about!)and they are going to have to either violate the law in a huge way- also a SPCT issue, or they will have to give in.

The Republicans should simply get out of the way. Sure, Rubio can throw salt in the eyes of the Left with this bill, but remember, they could agree and sit the problem on the back burner and off the Stewart show, while still working on completing the harm that is ACA.

http://truthandcommonsense.com/2013/10/23/jon-stewart-makes-fun-of-obamacare-rollout-important/

archer52 on October 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM

I don’t think it’s smart politics at all for Republicans to propose a delay.

Wait till the Obamacare meltdonw forces Reid/Pelosi to come forward on bended knee to propose it.

kd6rxl on October 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM

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