Dem. Sen. Shaheen: So, we should really start thinking about that individual mandate delay now, no?

posted at 8:01 pm on October 22, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

You know they’re all thinking about it, even if they won’t all say so. An excerpt from Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen’s letter to the White House on Tuesday, via Roll Call:

The Affordable Care Act has already positively impacted the lives of millions of Americans and once fully implemented, this law has great promise. However, I am concerned about the problems that people are experiencing with the Affordable Care Act’s website, healthcare.gov. As website glitches persist, we are losing valuable time to educate and enroll people in insurance plans. I also fear that people that have tried, and failed, to enroll online may become frustrated and not return to the website to try again at a later date.

Given the existing problems with the website, I urge you to consider extending open enrollment beyond the current end date of March 31, 2014. Allowing extra time for consumers is critically important so they have the opportunity to become familiar with the website, survey their options and enroll.

Further, in light of the difficulties individuals may be having with enrolling through healthcare.gov, I ask that you clarify how the individual responsibility penalty will be administered and enforced. If an individual is unable to purchase health insurance due to technical problems with enrollment, they should not be penalized because of lack of coverage.

The difficulty that people in New Hampshire and in other states that are relying on the federally facilitated marketplaces are experiencing is incredibly frustrating and disappointing. For over three years, we have been waiting for the creation of the health insurance exchanges, which now in their fourth week of existence, are riddled with problems.

As ever, and as Shaheen acknowledges, it isn’t merely the glitchiness in and of itself behind her rationale for a delay in the individual mandate; but rather that the people most likely to give up in frustration over the glitches are the very same low-cost people the system needs the most in order to function. By resisting the increasingly obvious need to expand the enrollment period, it could very well be that the administration is already flirting with and indeed courting the dreaded spiral-scenario.

We know there might be at least a small handful of other Democratic senators who could feasibly support, or at least not openly oppose, the idea of backing off on the current deadline window, and Sen. Rubio already got out in front of the issue by introducing a bill to force a delay until the website is fixed. The situation is going to get real, and soon.


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OT: Cruella is lying on CNN…

d1carter on October 22, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Do not let them do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

WE WON. But sadly we don’t know it.

500,000 applications. ZERO SIGNUPS.

Nobody wants it.

Hit this every day.

faraway on October 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM

The GOP never seems to know when they have the advantage…

d1carter on October 22, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Raacist!

cep on October 22, 2013 at 8:13 PM

So, we should really start thinking about that individual mandate delay now, no?

As far as the GOP is concerned the answer is no. The HA surrender weasels were cheering a complete cave on this very point this time last week.

So, this should be tied to budget cuts come January. By that time the Dems will be insane in trying to cut a deal. Until then they can eff off.

Happy Nomad on October 22, 2013 at 8:13 PM

OT: Cruella is lying on CNN…

d1carter on October 22, 2013 at 8:07 PM

I want to see Cruella CRYING on CNN.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

They have been briefed and are at least attempting to get ahead of the huge PR disaster barreling down the tracks. Now will the GOP take advantage?

That was a rhetorical question btw.

Johnnyreb on October 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

We’ve spent the last 3 1/2 years trying to fight and stop this EpicClusterFarkNado – and they’ve insisted every step of the way to push it through regardless.

It’s the product of lies, malfeasance, and incompetence.

It’s theirs.

They own it.

It’s launched.

No more delays, and they have to fix it with what they have now…no more money.

Live with the consequences of the clusterfark.

Athos on October 22, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Actually, I want to see the ObamaBus tyre marks on Cruella’s face.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 8:18 PM

I think that after an appropriate period of Congressional oversight hearings lasting months or years, that this could be considered.

faraway on October 22, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Delay it and also cancel that one woman who introduced Obama yesterday..

You know the one…
The woman that couldn’t get insurance because of pre-existing but saved $150 per month with ObamaCare…

Electrongod on October 22, 2013 at 8:20 PM

I hope someone leaks what Sebelius and the Dems secretively discuss in their upcoming meeting. They would absolutely plotz!

Christien on October 22, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Now will the GOP take advantage?

Johnnyreb on October 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

The House GOP should maintain a chastised stance. We tried but got pushed back by the Senate. Let the Dems swing in the wind for some sort of relief from that which they defended to the death.

Happy Nomad on October 22, 2013 at 8:20 PM

The House should offer to help Obama to understand how his underlings failed him. All in the spirit of cooperation.

faraway on October 22, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

LOL…I think Boehner has.

d1carter on October 22, 2013 at 8:21 PM

You know they’re all thinking about it, even if they won’t all say so. An excerpt from Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen’s letter to the White House on Tuesday, via Roll Call:
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Well, there goes her invite to Pelosi’s *Palomino Halloween Party *!

canopfor on October 22, 2013 at 8:24 PM

They cannot ONLY delay the individual mandate. There are responsible people that DON’T want to go without health insurance, and the Obamacare insurance plan requirements make the policies unaffordable without the subsidies that go with the mandate.

If they delay the mandate, they have to delay the Obamacare policy requirements so insurance companies can continue to sell the SAME policies past December 31 which people can afford.

THAT means that the no-preexisting requirement has to be also delayed.

Obamacare is a house of cards. The individual mandate is one of the cards on the bottom row.

slickwillie2001 on October 22, 2013 at 8:30 PM

THE DEMOCRATS WANT A ‘DEATH SPIRAL’. THAT WAY THEY CAN MOVE RIGHT INTO ‘SINGLE PAYER’. WHICH IS WHAT THEY WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND KING BARACK WILL HOLD HIS BREATH UNTIL ENOUGH REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE VOTE FOR IT’S PASSAGE.

GarandFan on October 22, 2013 at 8:33 PM

If there is a delay in the mandate then there should also be a delay in the subsidies, premium increases, deductible increases and existing policies that are scheduled to be cancelled.

Wigglesworth on October 22, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Shaheen 48, Carpetbagging Republican 44

She scurred.

blammm on October 22, 2013 at 8:34 PM

I’m sorry, but that offer of a delay on the mandate was refused by Barack Obama.

What is Sen. Shaheen, a racist? Doesn’t she know better than to go against the President?

ajacksonian on October 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM

They cannot ONLY delay the individual mandate. There are responsible people that DON’T want to go without health insurance, and the Obamacare insurance plan requirements make the policies unaffordable without the subsidies that go with the mandate.

If they delay the mandate, they have to delay the Obamacare policy requirements so insurance companies can continue to sell the SAME policies past December 31 which people can afford.

THAT means that the no-preexisting requirement has to be also delayed.

Obamacare is a house of cards. The individual mandate is one of the cards on the bottom row.

slickwillie2001 on October 22, 2013 at 8:30 PM

No they can’t. And that is why Obama and Valerie Jarret are meeting right now with many of the big Insurance CEO’s to see if they can get a Mulligan and roll this train wreck back. Remember the self insured and some other people have already been notified that their insurance plans are being cancelled 31 December because they do not comply with Obamacare that goes into effect 1 January.

Oh, and where are the trolls? Haven’t seen them in days.

Johnnyreb on October 22, 2013 at 8:38 PM

ALERT: Exclusive: White House Official Fired for Tweeting Under Fake Name

Let it rain.

faraway on October 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Charles Blow was just on the CNN begging people to give this thing a chance…it’s just a website. There’s plenty of time to get enough people signed up. What’s the big deal?

d1carter on October 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Charles Blow can blow me somebody!

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Actually, I want to see the ObamaBus tyre marks on Cruella’s face.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 8:18 PM

H/T to Katy the Mean Old Lady, from earlier today:

Daddy, have you plugged Sebelius yet?

TXUS on October 22, 2013 at 8:43 PM

TXUS, ktmol is a trip!

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Charles Blow was just on the CNN begging people to give this thing a chance…it’s just a website. There’s plenty of time to get enough people signed up. What’s the big deal?

d1carter on October 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Is it true the ‘blow job’ was named after him?

slickwillie2001 on October 22, 2013 at 8:47 PM

OT: Cruella is lying on CNN…

d1carter on October 22, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Better tune in and get your Nurse Ratched fix now… story on the Ulstermanreport says there are major battles in the WH about whether she’s soon gone or not. I think I hear the bus warming up…

Oh, and this: Sec. Sibelius and John Kerry walk into a bar. JFK says to her “why the long face?”… oh, wait.

bofh on October 22, 2013 at 8:48 PM

.. individual mandate delay …

No need to worry … traitor Rubio is all over it. Rubio and democrats would like nothing more than to help obama by delaying the individual mandate.

Pork-Chop on October 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Report: White House Responsible For Obamacare Website Fiasco, “Didn’t Know What They Wanted… Kept Changing The Goal Post”…

Via Free Beacon:

Adding to the growing list of reasons for the failure in the Obamacare website rollout. CNN’s Joe Johns reports that the government did not know what they wanted from the website. The report concludes that the government “ kept changing the goal post…making it difficult for contractors to deliver a product.”

Resist We Much on October 22, 2013 at 8:51 PM

slickwillie2001 on October 22, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Nail, meet Hammer. As you noted, you can’t just delay the tax/penalty without delaying all the rest, particularly the pre-existing conditions guarantee which is a huge driver of costs, for which the insurance companies by definition must consider in determining premiums. Not delaying that aspect, while delaying the mandatory tax, will ensure the death spiral.

TXUS on October 22, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Sophie, and a great trip she is.

TXUS on October 22, 2013 at 8:55 PM

The GOP never seems to know when they have the advantage…

d1carter on October 22, 2013 at 8:12 PM


The GOPe and the GOPe-media NEVER WANT to “have the advantage”.

It would make the fact they are “throwing the fight” too hard to hide.

PolAgnostic on October 22, 2013 at 9:01 PM

The situation is going to get real, and soon.

How much more real can it get? It’s real, alright, and it’s only going to get worse.

HiJack on October 22, 2013 at 9:01 PM

there are major battles in the WH about whether she’s soon gone or not. I think I hear the bus warming up…

bofh on October 22, 2013 at 8:48 PM

I agree with Dana Perino on this. She needs to stay and face the consequences of the Obamacare roll out and all the things she has claimed about the process. To fire her would be a reward.

Shame and debase her before allowing her to get on the broom and fly back to Kansas.

Happy Nomad on October 22, 2013 at 9:02 PM

OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA!!!!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-22/another-one-trillion-dollars-1000000000000-debt

Over the past five years, the U.S. government has been on the greatest debt binge in history. Unfortunately, most Americans don’t realize just how bad things have gotten because the true budget deficit numbers are not reported on the news. The following is where the U.S. national debt has been on September 30th during the five years previous to this one…

09/30/2012: $16,066,241,407,385.89

09/30/2011: $14,790,340,328,557.15

09/30/2010: $13,561,623,030,891.79

09/30/2009: $ 11,909,829,003,511.75

09/30/2008: $10,024,724,896,912.49

The U.S. national debt is now 37 times larger than it was 40 years ago, and we are on pace to accumulate more new debt under the 8 years of the Obama administration than we did under all of the other presidents in U.S. history combined.

Murphy9 on October 22, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Dem. Sen. Shaheen: So, we should really start thinking about that individual mandate delay now, no?

Obama has his chance on Oct. 1 2013.

Instead, he chose to send park rangers to harass senior citizens.

You own it, Sen. Shaheen. Now bow down to your master Obama.

MichaelGabriel on October 22, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Trust the GOPe to never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. They will allow this to be used against them, snatching defeat from the Jaws of victory.

ManWithNoParty on October 22, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I wonder of Chief Justice John Roberts sleeps well at night.

SouthernGent on October 22, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Haha! She just so happens to be up for re-election in a state that has shown a willingness to send Republicans to Washington, what a coincidence that she’s straying off the reserve. I suppose we should expect to see similar letters from red state Dems.

I never liked the idea of a delay. Let the Dems drown in their own big government incompetence, no need to throw them a lifeline. But I suppose it’s bad either way for Dems.

ncconservative on October 22, 2013 at 9:26 PM

The GOP never seems to know when they have the advantage…

d1carter on October 22, 2013 at 8:12 PM

The GOPe and the GOPe-media NEVER WANT to “have the advantage”.

It would make the fact they are “throwing the fight” too hard to hide.

PolAgnostic on October 22, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Please, please don’t make me stand near the mule; he kicked me once.

slickwillie2001 on October 22, 2013 at 9:26 PM

The dems went to the mats to avoid a Republican backed delay in the individual mandate. They caused a government shutdown over of. The president stomped his feet and made the shutown as painful as possible to ordinary citizens.

Now the idiots are the ones calling for the delay. How would the press cover this if Republicans had flipped their stance like this after a shutdown. And the public is more the most part, clueless. God, we’re dumb.

smoothsailing on October 22, 2013 at 9:35 PM

“for” the most part

God, I’m dumb.

smoothsailing on October 22, 2013 at 9:52 PM

How do they plan to get around the fact they called the people who wanted to do it before the implosion terrorists, arsonists, etc.?

ojfltx on October 22, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Demand full implementation NOW! No waivers for anybody!

MAKE IT RAIN!

Hang it around Obambi’s neck and make HIM do the perpwalk.

Idiots.

The Honey Badger

The Honey Badger on October 22, 2013 at 9:57 PM

“for” the most part

God, I’m dumb.

smoothsailing on October 22, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Nah, just a typo. Happens all the time.

Spending 600 million dollars to screw up 5 million lines of computer code, now that’s dumb.

MichaelGabriel on October 22, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Dem. Sen. Shaheen: So, we should really start thinking about that individual mandate delay now, no?

Obama has his chance on Oct. 1 2013.

Instead, he chose to send park rangers to harass senior citizens.

You own it, Sen. Shaheen. Now bow down to your master Obama.

MichaelGabriel on October 22, 2013 at 9:11 PM

And prevent veterans from visitng open air memorials and blocked the view to Mount Rushmore and falsely imprisoned international tourists.

talkingpoints on October 22, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Fix the website?

Who was it that said: You Can’t Fix Stupid!

Another Drew on October 22, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Don’t give an inch. The system doesn’t work and these swine own it.

Mason on October 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Wait. Is it caving to delay or to not delay? I’m so confused.

xuyee on October 23, 2013 at 1:51 AM

She scurred.

blammm on October 22, 2013 at 8:34 PM

No conservative will vote for Brown. We need a better candidate. I won’t vote for him or any other RINO.

dogsoldier on October 23, 2013 at 5:28 AM

Good picture with Ayotte the other RINO.

dogsoldier on October 23, 2013 at 5:29 AM

Maybe the democrat party can just exempt themselves!

eff everyione else!

Lonetown on October 23, 2013 at 6:19 AM

HMMMM. I can understand that Democrats would want a delay in the mandate in order to address problems with Obamacare enrollment but what is the motivation of Republicans? It appears that a delay brings new problems including the possible demise of private insurance unless there are other changes in the law along with it.

I see danger in Republicans colluding with Democrats on a delay in the purchase mandate but it will be helpful if someone can answer a couple of questions I have about it:

1. Will people who have already received notice that their current policy is cancelled effective January 1 be able to renew that policy or,

2. Are they and any others who need to buy private insurance still limited to buying expensive Obamacare approved policies?

3. What is the expected financial impact on insurance companies if removing the mandate means even fewer younger, healthier, people actually buy insurance. Can they survive if that happens and who steps in to provide insurance if they do not, Medicaid or Medicare?

Nomas on October 23, 2013 at 7:36 AM

Thank God Senator Shaheen is still alive. She has been in hiding for so long from the voters here in NH I thought she had passed on. She must be getting calls from constituents who only have ONE insurer to go to on the federal exchange here. Of course that is an environment that then State Senator Shaheen and the Dem controlled legislature at the time helped create by mandating that insurance companies doing business in NH provide all sorts of universal coverage if they wanted to keep doing business. That drove the # of companies in NH from 21 or 22 to roughly 4 and Obamacare took care of that. Now Gov Maggie Hassan is blaming republicans in the last legislature for not setting up a state exchange. And Senator Ayotte is now grandstanding demanding #s on NH enrollees when she had the chance to stand up instead of ride the fence she voted with Dingy Harry Reid. The far left reps Carol Che Porter (who voted for it initially) and Kuster are still gung ho on Ocare. As a conservative woman in NH I am starting to agree with my 95 year old grandmother that the womens need to get out of politics, at least the ones from NH!

ksmoola1 on October 23, 2013 at 7:38 AM

dogsoldier on October 23, 2013 at 5:28 AM

Never said I would vote for him either. Just pointing out a possible motive for being the first to jump ship.

blammm on October 23, 2013 at 7:38 AM

Woot, Woot, Woot, what a hoot! The death spiral has begun. Say goodbye Obummercare.

soghornetgunner on October 23, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Take it up with Senator Reid. Why should we care about that?

txmomof6 on October 23, 2013 at 7:55 AM

“The Affordable Care Act has already positively impacted the lives of millions of Americans …” – Sen. Shaheen

Hmmmmm … Okay. Name one, just ONE or crawl back into your putrid hole.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on October 23, 2013 at 7:55 AM

I hope Rubio’s bill goes to the Senate floor and the Republicans filibuster it and continue to filibuster it until they get a apology from Reid, Obama, and the MSM.

bflat879 on October 23, 2013 at 7:55 AM

Shaheen and Ayotte both need to be voted out.

Wigglesworth on October 23, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Totally implement this disaster or totally repeal it! Don’t give the communists the parachute of delay! Giving them more time will make it 10 time worse since they will never let it die. Let it implode now! Fire no one! Let the incompetents stay in charge and ride the failure to the end! Leave Cruella in charge of the collapse! She has done a great job of screwing up! Stand back an let her keep digging! She CANNOT make it succeed!

Marco on October 23, 2013 at 11:59 AM

They have been briefed and are at least attempting to get ahead of the huge PR disaster barreling down the tracks. Now will the GOP take advantage?

That was a rhetorical question btw.

Johnnyreb on October 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

The only concession Republicans won during the Government shutdown was that the Continuing Resolution only funds the government for 3 months, so that this subject will be debated by Congress again in early January. Until then, Republicans can blame Democrats for all Obamacare failures, and as people find out how much their premiums and deductibles will increase under Obamacare, they will be begging somebody in Congress to delay the individual mandate, or repeal the entire law.

Depending on what people find out about Obamacare between now and January, Republicans can then plan their strategy. What might work best is a proposal to fund the government for another 3 months with a 3-month delay in the individual mandate–take it or leave it to the Democrats.

By that time, Democrats might want a longer delay (a year would take them after the midterm elections), but Republicans should insist on a delay to BEFORE the election, with a continuing resolution to fund the government for the same amount of time. Then Democrats will have to own and defend Obamacare, glitches and premium hikes and all, and Republicans can campaign “Give us control of the Senate, and we will repeal Obamacare”, while having another opportunity to attach the Obamacare issue to a continuing-resolution debate in Congress before the election.

Steve Z on October 23, 2013 at 1:34 PM