Open thread: Obama speech on fixing the totally groovy success of Healthcare.gov

posted at 10:41 am on October 21, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

What will fix a $400 million Internet venture that doesn’t allow most people to sign up and doesn’t produce hardly any sales on its core business of service plans? A presidential speech, that’s what! Or, er, not:

Dick Durbin thinks that the new system is on track for success, but successes don’t usually require red-team interventions or “tech surges” to stop the onslaught of bad press. Barack Obama will make a statement from the Rose Garden at 11:25 this morning, which traditionally means 11:40 or so.  The New York Daily News tells readers that the President has some ‘splaining to do:

President Barack Obama is expected to acknowledge that widespread problems with his health care law’s rollout are unacceptable, as the administration scrambles to fix the glitches.

Obama was scheduled to speak Monday from the Rose Garden, his first health care-focused event since the cascade of computer problems became apparent.

The troublesome rollout of the health care exchanges has been a glaring embarrassment for Obama’s signature legislative achievement.

White House officials say the president will discuss steps the administration is taking to address the glitches, including ramping up staffing at call centers where people can apply for insurance by phone.

The Department of Health and Human Services says it is also bringing in technology experts from inside and outside of government to help diagnose the issues.

The White House is also bringing in some human props to deflect from the incompetence of the administration:

Obama will be flanked at the Rose Garden event by people the White House says have already enrolled during the first three weeks of sign-ups.

Really? How many will that be?  Because if there are less than 476,000 — the “enrollment number” that the White House tried floating over the weekend — it’s going to remind everyone that there is a very large difference between creating a user account and an actual, confirmed purchase of coverage.

A source in the industry tells John Fund that it might be months before HHS can fix the problem:

If HealthCare.gov isn’t fixed quickly, it will run up against something called a reality check. On January 1, all Americans will be required by law to have health insurance. The deadline to apply for health coverage — and avoid paying a penalty of up to 1 percent of income — is February 15. This is not the same deadline as that marking the end of the open-enrollment period, which is March 31. So you could enroll after February 15, but you would pay the penalty. As Politico dryly noted last week: “This quirk, unearthed by industry observers, appears to have gone previously unnoticed by the administration. ‘The IRS didn’t know that,’ said Jackson Hewitt Vice President Brian Haile, who recently brought the issue to the administration’s attention.”

If the meltdowns at HealthCare.gov aren’t fixed soon, the delay in implementing that mandate — a delay that President Obama refused to even contemplate during the government shutdown — may become a necessity for him. Bruce Webster, an expert on information technology and consultant to dozens of companies, told me:

I honestly believe that at some point soon, the government is going to have to shut down the Apply Now section of HealthCare.gov for a period of weeks and possibly even longer. I think there’s at least a 50-50 chance that it may not reopen until January [or later], and that President Obama will “waive” the individual mandate for six months or even a full year.

If that’s true, there’s one thing you can count on. The Obama administration will keep on not answering questions about Obamacare, claim that everything is “on track,” and deny that any such move is possible — up until the very day they announce something different.

Or the day they run out of human props for their happy talk.  Let’s see a preview of what we’ll hear today:

That has to be better than the messaging yesterday, which was that HHS can’t guarantee that the system will be fixed in time for people to meet the first real deadline of the individual mandate:

“If people can’t sign up, they can’t get affordable care,” asked Bloomberg’s Al Hunt. “And can you guarantee the public that by December 15, say, which is a little over 2 weeks before they can really join, that these problems will be largely rectified?”

“I think that the administration is working deeply on the problems that exist and I think it’s also important to recognize that there are other places and ways, in terms of whether those are the phone numbers, the navigators, and other tools and choices that people have to do that,” said Burwell.

Hunt asked Burwell again — and again she wouldn’t guarantee that the Obamacare website will be working in 2 months.

Break out the human props!


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BREAKING NEWS ALERT!!

The Obamcare website has created a VIRTUAL Waiting Room for people to wait in on line…

THIS IS NOT A JOKE!!

Seriously! I just heard it on Rush!!

Scrumpy on October 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM

You get to listen to select speeches by Obama while you wait.

BobMbx on October 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Obama already did the doctor prop thing now it’s time for the patients.

Wigglesworth on October 21, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Why don’t we all just daily go crash the site…

It’s hilarious fun!!

Scrumpy on October 21, 2013 at 12:27 PM

You get to listen to select speeches by Obama while you wait.

BobMbx on October 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

the select tracks from the Queen’s iPod??

ted c on October 21, 2013 at 12:27 PM

The land is the laughing stock of the world.

Latvia is better off now.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Gee, where’s a fake doctor in a white coat when you need one?

Brat on October 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM

It’s not like the WH has never had fake doctors, or handed out white coats to fake doctors, in order to pitch a dog and pony show before…

Athos on October 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM

And now comes the point where you throw people at a problem to try and ‘fix it’ which means you bring in people unfamiliar with the system to try and tell you what is wrong with it… and a few months later you might get a result… and that will be: scrap it, start over.

This isn’t something a quick ‘technical fix’ can cover, or even cover-up at this point. Yet more people will be put on the project because the Mythical Man Month rules in government and obviously more people mean more getting done… yet less will be accomplished as more people are put on and the Death March shifts out of low gear and into high gear.

When a Death March turns into a Death Spiral and you have ‘committed leaders’ trying to get a result, it becomes a vortex sucking in resources, people, and wasting much, much more time, effort and money in search of a fruitless goal that cannot be achieved.

This disaster has Obama’s name on it and fighting tooth and nail against even delaying the mandate now lands this disaster squarely in his lap: the GOP and Ted Cruz were actually trying to HELP HIM avert this disaster, but Obama wanted partisanship above all.

Now he will find out what that means.

The flailing will continue.

The results will not stabilize, perhaps even decline.

The giant sucking sound is Obamacare taking in the Left, Obama’s supporters and, finally, trying to pull other federal programs in to try and ‘save’ Obamacare. Perhaps Medicare and Medicaid will be sacrificed on its altar. Even SSA could wind up there. All to try and save the project with one man’s name on it to try and make defeat be an orphan, and yet it has fathers and mothers that everyone can point to.

They should have shut it down at the train wreck stage.

Now it becomes something far worse and much harder to deal with as the actual deadlines for enrollment appear and the law of trying to force people to do things on a system that can’t provide it puts the federal government in jeopardy of its very funding as suits can and will be filed on breach of promise by the US federal government to deliver something that it cannot do. The greatest class action suit of the American People vs. the Federal Government is now that creature looming on the horizon. And you would need Congress to shield the government from it… and that will not happen. All Obama had to do was compromise and he would be saved from this. Now that he hasn’t, the problem is his and his alone.

ajacksonian on October 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM

It will only cost you a hundred dollars a month, like what you pay for your cell phone bill or your cable bill. Did he really say that?

Fleuries on October 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Mark Steyn is on a roll while filling in for Rush this am….

Athos on October 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

MSNBC, alex wagner, reporting that republicans spent millions hacking the website.

crash72 on October 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Well that didn’t take long

gophergirl on October 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

I wish she’d puked on him.

WhatSlushfund on October 21, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Yes, green pea soup as her head rotated.

The celebrity preznit strikes again.

onlineanalyst on October 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

obama, for you

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

BobMbx on October 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

It has Virtual Music whilst you wait, and Virtual Coffee and Donuts, and Virtual TV!! Unfortunately it’s tuned to MSNBC…

But that’s ok, really, we need to be indoctrinated…and what better place!

A Virtual Dr is also on standby should you fall ill, and a Virtual Coroner is also on standby should you die whilst waiting…

Hope and Change baby!!

Scrumpy on October 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

The real point of the speech was to tell the cult media to stop talking about the website.

faraway on October 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Fleuries on October 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Yes.

The best lies are the blatant ‘in your face’ lies….and if you say them often enough, they will become perceived as the truth.

Athos on October 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

As soon as I get my $2500 savings, I’m signing up. Where’s the papyrus..?

d1carter on October 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM

I’m holding out for that promised 3000% reduction in my premiums. I should be able to afford to live quite well on those rebate checks from lil barry’s stash.

Solaratov on October 21, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Gee, where’s a fake doctor in a white coat when you need one?

Brat on October 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM

isn’t the kind and benevolent healer at the microphone where with just a wave of his hand, can heal the masses…lower the tides...close the mouths of lions….etc etc etc…/?//

ted c on October 21, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Gallup: Number of Americans Who Will Refuse To Join Obamacare And Instead Pay Individual Mandate Fine Jumps To 34%, Up 9 Points Since Last Month…

Resist We Much on October 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Excellent. Never forget this.

We are, however, drawing a line that the forces of repression, socialism, and tyranny must not cross. Some might even color the line red. Yet unlike a certain other, this red line is immovable. I yield nothing on the plane of freedom. I will not take any small step that is, in actuality, one giant leap backward to the darkness we thought we had vanquished.

Who is with me?

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Obama Virtually makes me sick to my stomach, I dunno how much more I can take of his Virtual Reality

Scrumpy on October 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

He is telling his cult members to not think about the website. ObamaCare is everywhere. It’s in the air.

Yes we can. Yes we can.

faraway on October 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Obama-chlorians.

“They live inside me?”
―Welfare Skywalker

BobMbx on October 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Resist.

Great pic for your collection.

MontanaMmmm on October 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

I will not comply because I am a free citizen of the United States, not a subject of its government. I consider non-compliance with this monstrosity and the tens of thousands of pages of regulations that are to be enforced by an unelected bureaucracy, and that have left a gigantic carbon footprint on our environment and the United States Constitution, a duty.

Non-compliance is my executive order
, and that order reads in part that I do not recognize any government’s claim on my action or inaction in the marketplace, nor upon any personal information I am unwilling to divulge.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Fleuries on October 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Remember the smahhhtest prezdent evah knows all about insurance..
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/26/obamateurism-of-the-day-218/

Brat on October 21, 2013 at 12:34 PM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/msnbc-the-administration-is-lying-about-obamacare-numbers-video/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/consumer-reports-warns-readers-to-stay-clear-of-obamacare-website/

The Obamacare program’s flagship website is so error-prone and user-unfriendly that Consumer Reports magazine has thrown up its hands in disgust, advising readers to ‘stay away from Healthcare.gov for at least another month if you can.’

The website’s messy launch has been the subject of endless news reports, talk show segments and late-night comedy bits – adding to a full-time congressional inquiry and, now, questions about why Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is refusing to testify on Capitol Hill.

But Consumer Reports, the toaster-testing, TV-rating consumer powerhouse, is on the case.

Before October 1, the magazine was a major booster of President Obama’s health insurance overhaul plan, devoting several pages in its latest issue to an optimistic ‘step-by-step guide.’

But the print edition was completed weeks before the Obamacare enrollment website actually launched. And once its crashes became the stuff of political and geek-tech legend, the editors told Americans to run away at full speed.

INC on October 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

MSNBC, alex wagner, reporting that republicans spent millions hacking the website.

crash72 on October 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM

It probably cost them that much because they needed staffers to work around the clock trying to log onto the damn thing.

PackerBronco on October 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Heh, MontanaMmmm…

This is a cools source too, RWM…tons of freaky pics.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

islamic norms:

The “Halal Sex Shop” website presents its products as being “entirely safe,” and in compliance with Islamic norms.

http://www.france24.com/en/20131021-turkeys-first-online-islamic-sex-shop-opens

davidk on October 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

What does this say about what’s actually happening behind the scenes at the exchanges? I thought Obama was supposed to pivot to amnesty immediately after the shutdown ended.

blammm on October 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Cool source – fifm

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

All the way Schadenfreude, ALL THE WAY!!

Scrumpy on October 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

I thought Obama was supposed to pivot to amnesty immediately after the shutdown ended.

blammm on October 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

What Charles Blow typed…but he has the best last name of anyone.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Obama told the cult-fainter “You’ll be OK”

How did he know that?

faraway on October 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM

The Nile is a river in Egypt. Denial flows from the Rose Garden. This does seem like a Bagdad Bob moment, doesn’t it. Que the laugh track. How is the head of the regime back up to 44% approval?

Kissmygrits on October 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM

I thought Obama was supposed to pivot to amnesty immediately after the shutdown ended.

blammm on October 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Another week of ACA fail, and he’ll make the 193rd pivot to the economy and jobs…..

Athos on October 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

INC on October 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Plus, they don’t warn people enough about how the site collects your private data, whether you sign up or not…and you’re scroomed, forever.

Stay the heck away, forever.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Plus, they don’t warn people enough about how the site collects your private data, whether you sign up or not…and you’re scroomed, forever.

Stay the heck away, forever.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

I suspect the direct data feed from Healthcare.gov to the DNC systems is working just fine….

Athos on October 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

We’re still waiting, (D) voters.
 

Obamacare was passed to solve the free rider problem:

 

“So that’s why the individual mandate’s important,” Obama explained in a speech on Aug. 15, 2011.
 
“Because the basic theory is, look, everybody here at some point or another is going to need medical care, and you can’t be a free-rider on everybody else,” said Obama.
 
http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=14952502&sid=77&cid=77

 

The tax/fine on a person making $43K who doesn’t want or can’t afford insurance will only equal about $860 (vs. thousands in premiums and deductibles), and $860 will barely cover any actual medical procedure.
 
Hospitals will still be required by law to provide care regardless of insurance coverage or ability to pay.
 
Can you explain how Obamacare does anything to change the free rider problem?
 
Give us specifics, please.
 
rogerb on…

 

 
urban elitist?
 
verbaluce?
 
libfreeordie?
 
justthefacts?
 
inklake?
 
Can.I.be.in.the.middle?
 
Genuine?
 
bayam?
 
lostmotherland?
 
triple?
 
Mmm… burritos?
 
loveofcountry?

 
Not a single one of you has any idea of how it does.
 
Or you accept that it doesn’t and are simply ashamed to make it visibly known that you still support the takeover and associated destruction of middle class wealth.
 
There are no other choices.
 
(Although, frankly, it could be a willing combination of both.)

rogerb on October 21, 2013 at 12:39 PM

The Swine in Chief blamed Republicans and the shutdown on this :)

He lies every time he blinks.

New thread.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM

MSNBC, alex wagner, reporting that republicans spent millions hacking the website.

crash72 on October 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Someone PREDICTED that a LSM moron would say this and hype this shite up to the sky.

We as a political entity, are SUNK!!

How the fvck can anyone fight this tripe eh?

Scrumpy on October 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM

faraway on October 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Exactly why I think it’s fake. He didn’t however, prescribe his usual “she just needs some water” antidote. Surprised that head nurse Moochelle didn’t come out with one of her new personalized water bottles.

Brat on October 21, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Obama told the cult-fainter “You’ll be OK”

How did he know that?

faraway on October 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM

He doesn’t just play a President, he also play acts as a healer… after all, didn’t the lamestream media designate that he is the new Messiah?

Athos on October 21, 2013 at 12:41 PM

MSNBC, alex wagner, reporting that republicans spent millions hacking the website.

crash72 on October 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM

And THIS will become the meme…..why?

Because Republicans are so damn stupid, they’d agree with it, and blame C R U Z !!!!!!!

Can anyone explain to me why the establishment R’s continue
to attack people like Cruz more than they attack Dems????

ToddPA on October 21, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Can anyone explain to me why the establishment R’s continue
to attack people like Cruz more than they attack Dems????

ToddPA on October 21, 2013 at 12:42 PM

The Democrats aren’t really trying very hard to take their jobs, and they are ‘nice enough’ to filter some crumbs down.

Cruz, and the Tea Party, actually want to hold them accountable and responsible – and ultimately take their jobs from them when it is clear that they are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Bottom line – one group is a threat, the other isn’t. They attack the threat.

Athos on October 21, 2013 at 12:45 PM

ToddPA on October 21, 2013 at 12:42 PM

If I had to guess, face time in front of national media cameras.

Cindy Munford on October 21, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Gallup: Number of Americans Who Will Refuse To Join Obamacare And Instead Pay Individual Mandate Fine Jumps To 34%, Up 9 Points Since Last Month…

Resist We Much on October 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM

What would happen if we who oppose this massive power grab simply refuse to comply?

I will not sign up. I won’t pay the fine. The IRS has no overpayment due to me that it can seize. So let them come and get it.

WE can bring down this Frankenstein monster. We don’t need no stinkin’ Senators.

novaculus on October 21, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Squirrel: Website glitches

Reality (hello GOP?): 500,000 people applied and did not buy. Too expensive.

The ‘product’ is a dud.

Worse than New Coke.

faraway on October 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Dear Leader has asked Jerry Lewis to do his next speech…

d1carter on October 21, 2013 at 12:52 PM

How is the head of the regime back up to 44% approval?

Kissmygrits on October 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Why the LSM informing the LIV, that’s why. Oh, and a little polling manipulation, you know, asking the right question of the right people – works every time. I.e. Do you approve of Prezzy Barky or did enjoy it when the evil Ted Cruz kicked your Mom in the backside?

D-fusit on October 21, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Any statements from the GOP establishment about what a piece of crap this is…anybody?

d1carter on October 21, 2013 at 12:53 PM

d1carter on October 21, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Crickets from the Vichy Republicans.

kingsjester on October 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM

BREAKING: Sebelius worries “First, he’s gonna sh!t, then he’s gonna kill us!”

/

Christien on October 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM

This is the kind of crap the GOP establishment is afraid to fight against…?
I think they support it but with their gifts applied. McCainCare?

d1carter on October 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Yep, if the GOP establishment were to say anything, the Prog State Run Media would be offended….

d1carter on October 21, 2013 at 12:56 PM

ToddPA on October 21, 2013 at 12:42 PM

If I had to guess, face time in front of national media cameras.

Cindy Munford on October 21, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Cindy, I have never been as sick of this Party as I am
at present.

They trash fellow Repubs, NEVER BEHIND CLOSED DOORS,
always in the Media.

One Sick Joke.

ToddPA on October 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM

This ‘speech’ is beyond delusional… anybody believing that string of lies has the IQ of a diseased turnip.

CPT. Charles on October 21, 2013 at 11:45 AM

I always wondered how crowds in Germany could follow the fuhrer with such illogical devotion. I just never thought I’d see it in my own country…

dominigan on October 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Resist We Much on October 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM

I wonder if that poll is as fake as the CNN one with 54% socialists responding, that we trashed earlier.

dogsoldier on October 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM

I understand’s Ted Cruz’s new tactic will be to defund the internet.

verbaluce on October 21, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I understand Obama’s new tactic will be to build a functioning web site.

dominigan on October 21, 2013 at 1:19 PM

You get to listen to select speeches by Obama while you wait.

BobMbx on October 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

It looks like the waiting room in Beetlejuice, but without the fun.

totherightofthem on October 21, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Shorter verbaluce: “My ass hurts.”

CurtZHP on October 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM

The pic of the sick girl on drudge looks like something out of the walking dead show

jaywemm on October 21, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Delay is not an option.

All those people who have been forced out of their current plans into the exchanges will be without insurance until the exchanges are working. A delay of the mandate won’t magically cause the insurance termination notices to magically disappear.

Obama & the Dems have put a lot of people in an untenable situation.

taznar on October 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM

BREAKING NEWS ALERT!!

The Obamcare website has created a VIRTUAL Waiting Room for people to wait in on line…

Scrumpy on October 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Yeah I liked the bit about sitting around reading two-year-old virtual magazines while waiting.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Obama & the Dems have put a lot of people in an untenable situation.

taznar on October 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Now whose problem is that? And I don’t mean the people put in an untenable situation.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 2:40 PM

rogerb on October 21, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Because that would require actual thinking and facts – not deflections and strawmen. None of your esteemed commenters has really demonstrated such skill. Indeed I got bored arguing with them because they knew nothing of the subject.

And taznar, and to anyone out there who knows, this does create an interesting problem. You must get healthcare – but the means for doing so is not operational. Is this an opportunity for the mother of all class action lawsuits?

Zomcon JEM on October 21, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Probably OT but, what does Reince and the RNC say about the O-Care failure?

Yeah. That’s what I thought.

socalcon on October 21, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Via Politico:

And Carney left open the possibility that the administration will seek to delay the individual mandate and the open enrollment period to enroll in healthcare through the Affordable Care Act.

He said to expect some HHS guidance “soon” on whether Obamacare’s individual mandate would require people in states that did not participate in the Medicaid expansion.

“If you do not have access to affordable insurance, you wont be penalized for not buying affordable insurance,” Carney said. “The issue is, do you have access to affordable health insurance.”

Resist We Much on October 21, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Sung appropriately to the tune of “Waterloo”

Obama care
Oh the folks they’re crying now
Obama care
They didn’t want it anyhow
Obamacare
It’s a disaster from the start
But don’t worry folks It won’t cover your heart
Obama care
I had time to get it right
Obama care
But I kept it out of sight
Obama care
I just knew there’d be a fight
So I sprung on you– now it is your plight
The GOP,
They’re the ones who broke it down
The GOP,
Yup, they stole your doctor’s gown
The GOP,
They’re the ones I’m gonna blame
Cause this rotton mess is labeled with mah name

But the gosh darn thing

Don L on October 21, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Ooops that last line ought not be there…..

Don L on October 21, 2013 at 5:18 PM

ajacksonian on October 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM

You’re describing The Mythical Man-Month. Government’s only solution to any problem is to throw more money at something, or more government. Neither will work, and bloggers are going to have a lot of material until it gets fixed…if it gets fixed.

mintycrys on October 21, 2013 at 6:07 PM

rogerb on October 21, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Lolz! Let me guess rogerb. Crickets? ; )

Bmore on October 21, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Maybe they all should have been dressed in hospital gowns, open to the back of course. :)

Of course they haven’t actually gotten the insurance yet, so maybe not.

PattyJ on October 21, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Why don’t we all just daily go crash the site…

It’s hilarious fun!!

Scrumpy on October 21, 2013 at 12:27 PM

….good idea!

KOOLAID2 on October 21, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Senator Cruz has managed to prove to me that not every Harvard schooled government official is not a scumbag socialist incompetent narcissist. Some are.

scboy on October 22, 2013 at 4:54 PM

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