Darden: We have to cancel health insurance for 1,000 part-timers because of ObamaCare

posted at 2:41 pm on October 21, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Last year, Darden Restaurants raised the ire of progressives when it toyed with the idea of eliminating most of its full-time employment for its hundreds of locations in order to avoid the high costs of ObamaCare compliance.  Darden later rejected the idea, but most probably didn’t know that the chain offered low-cost health insurance to its part-time employees — or at least they did. Darden announced today that they will have to cancel that insurance thanks to the coverage mandates of ObamaCare, a decision which will send 1,000 employees into the Healthcare.gov exchanges that aren’t functioning now:

Starting in 2015, Obamacare will require large companies to offer insurance to employees working an average of at least 30 hours a week. Darden said that has always been the threshold for its insurance plan, but it had allowed about 1,000 workers who fell under to stay covered. Now that state health-insurance exchanges are available under Obamacare, Darden said those workers have other options. Darden said many might end up paying less under the exchanges if they qualify for government subsidies.

Darden said in an email some workers may be able to rack up more than 30 hours next year “when the needs of the business and that individual’s availability align.”

Darden will no longer offer part-timers limited-benefit insurance because Obamacare forbids it. Darden said it will offer other programs to part-timers such as a bundle of discounts on prescriptions, and cash payments for services such as doctor’s visits.

They might pay less for premiums, but they’re going to pay more overall.  That’s because the so-called bronze plans that cost the least still are more expensive for most applicants even with the scalable subsidies, and also because deductibles will likely be much higher than Darden employees had under their employer plan. That means that those consumers will have to spend thousands of more dollars than they did in previous years before their insurance benefits kick in at all.  For those working part-time, that will take a particularly vicious bite out of their disposable income.

Those formerly-covered part-timers won’t find the exchanges any more friendly.  Consumer Reports warns its subscribers to avoid the site altogether for at least a month (emphasis mine, via Gateway Pundit):

Frustrated by trying to register on HealthCare.gov? You’re hardly alone. Of the 9.47 million people who tried to register in the first week, only 271,00 were able to create an account, according to one analysis. That’s about 1 in 35. Many people couldn’t even create user names and passwords. For tips on how to get past the roadblocks, we talked with a Phoenix software tester named Ben Simo. When he got stuck trying to register a family member, Simo used his professional know-how to look beneath the hood and come up with some suggestions for creating a Healthcare.gov user account that actually works. …

If all this is too much for you to absorb, follow our previous advice: Stay away from Healthcare.gov for at least another month if you can. Hopefully that will be long enough for its software vendors to clean up the mess they’ve made. The coverage available through the marketplaces won’t begin until Jan. 1, 2014, at the earliest, and you have until Dec. 15 to enroll if you need insurance that starts promptly.

Even HHS seems have thrown in the towel. Its website has a new feature.  See if you can guess what it is?

healthcaregov-phone

They’re making the “apply by phone” option a lot more prominent, part of the “consumer-friendly changes” to the site from the weekend.  But that’s about as friendly as it gets, per Politico:

Health and Human Services officials announced Sunday that consumer-friendly changes have been made to the homepage of the troubled Obamacare enrollment website.

The changes to the homepage aim to relieve some user frustration — but it isn’t a wider fix to the buggy and crash-plagued signup system. …

The changes will give people more information and options up front without having to wrestle with the flawed online process. It gives more information about health plan choices and provides clearer instructions on how to download a paper application, get through by telephone or find someone to assist in person.

It’s not a fix at all, since the call centers have to use the same unworkable computer system as consumers do on line.  After two weekends down, the only improvement is that consumers can fill out applications by hand. Looks like HHS reads Consumer Reports.


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Hat Trick on October 21, 2013 at 2:42 PM

My god, this will provide “evidence” for gnat-brain verbie of HA.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Call 1-800-F1UC-KYO

Conservative4Ever on October 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Stay away from it.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 6m

Obamaflakes – no sugarcoating! Also, those aren’t raisins.
Collapse

davidk on October 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Why don’t they just get all the private info from NSA and cut short the process…?

d1carter on October 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Darden will no longer offer part-timers limited-benefit insurance because Obamacare forbids it. Darden said it will offer other programs to part-timers such as a bundle of discounts on prescriptions, and cash payments for services such as doctor’s visits.

Why would Darden want to stand between its part-time employees and the “good deal” that Obama was touting this morning?

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Not to miss the spinmeister who helped to bring you obama, Axelturd

Former WH / Obama Campaign Spinmeister, David Axelrod, fires off incredibly juvenile tweet highlighting the dishonest spin being foisted on American people….

“Isn’t it ironic that the most ardent opponents of the Affordable Care Act are now complaining that people can’t sign up fast enough?”

The indomitable Iowahawk sends back a couple of clue-by-fours….

– “No, irony is that its most ardent supporters demand waivers.”
– “No, irony is calling it ‘Affordable.’”

Some other responses highlighted by Newsbusters…

Dave Boccio: “Isn’t it ironic that law supposed to provide health insurance is causing people to lose theirs?”

Rick Wilson: “All the cutesy sarcasm in the world won’t polish your quarter-trillion $, Kafkaesque online turd into a diamond, hoss.”

Barbara McMahon: “it’s ironic you’re gloating over an #epicfail.”

Athos on October 21, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Click to apply by phone.

Hat Trick on October 21, 2013 at 2:42 PM

http://twitchy.com/2013/10/21/whoops-president-infomercial-you-guys-just-use-the-phone-for-obamacare-guess-what-happens/

davidk on October 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Isn’t that picture on the site racist?

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Even HHS seems have thrown in the towel. Its website has a new feature. See if you can guess what it is?

I was hoping it was getting rid of that girl with the evil sneer on her face and replacing it with an image of the grim reaper with a I “heart” Obamacare button. Truth in advertising.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Why don’t they just get all the private info from NSA and cut short the process…?

d1carter on October 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 1h

After the Obamacare website, I’m no longer concerned about the NSA’s spying software. #silverlining

davidk on October 21, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Consumer Reports: Stay away from Healthcare.gov forever another month.

Better.

VibrioCocci on October 21, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Over at Ace, they posted a tweet from a reporter saying that the 1-800 “help” line is advising callers to try back on the weekend. It’s only Monday, people. That’s how f’ed up this is.

Doughboy on October 21, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Yeah, I can’t imagine many restaurants having full time employees after Obamacare. I put in a good number of years in that industry. Aside from the managers, full time employees are totally unnecessary from the business’ perspective.

Of course, as long as it was harmless, employees were welcome to work full time (as long as they didn’t go over 40hrs into OT). There were always people who did, especially the cooks who got paid hourly But if it’s going to cost the business money, forget it.

You can intimidate businesses into paying up with Democrats and being on the right side of the power brokers, but you *cannot* make a private entity act against its own best interest.

HitNRun on October 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Over at Ace, they posted a tweet from a reporter saying that the 1-800 “help” line is advising callers to try back on the weekend. It’s only Monday, people. That’s how f’ed up this is.

Doughboy on October 21, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Does the recording have an Indian accent?

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM

It’s not a fix at all, since the call centers have to use the same unworkable computer system as consumers do on line.

Pretty happy with that “Hoosier daddy” line?

davidk on October 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

FYI:Both red lobster and olive garden are part of Darden Restaurants, which is headed by Clarence Otis, Jr. Mr. Otis, who is black, is an avid supporter of the OBOZOs (surprise!), he’s been to several of OBOZO’s lavish White House parties (surprise!), and he totally supports the lunatic-left food nanny restrictions of MOOCH (surprise!). I wouldn’t be surprised if the recent food health issues at these restaurants are directly tied to the MOOCH-approved menu. As one might expect, otis has contributed substantial sums to OBOZO and other d-cRAT socialist extremists. He’s a real plantation dweller of the d-cRAT party – and EVEN THIS d-cRAT LOWLIFE WON’T SUPPORT THE OBOZCARE ATROCITY !!!!!!

TeaPartyNation on October 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

From obamatrainwreck.gov:

Get plan information in your area
What type of coverage do you need? (Select one.)

Health

Dental

IMPORTANT NOTE: The prices here don’t reflect the lower costs an applicant may qualify for based on household size and income.

Many people who apply will qualify for reduced costs through tax credits that are automatically applied to monthly premiums. These credits will significantly lower the prices shown for a majority of those applying. Final price quotes are available only after someone has completed a Marketplace application.

Dental coverage will be included in some plans. In some cases, separate, stand-alone plans will be offered.

Note the bolded portion.

“We won’t tell you how much your plane tickets cost until you complete the reservation.”

BobMbx on October 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Charles C. W. Cooke ✔ @charlescwcooke

If you call within the next few hours, 1800-OBAMA will send you your very own stethoscope and scalpel.
11:51 AM – 21 Oct 2013

davidk on October 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Does the recording have an Indian accent?

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Sadly it’s probably the same type of employee you’d encounter at the DMV. The Indian tech dude may be unintelligible, but at least’s he trying to help you.

I’m just trying to imagine what would happen to me if I told a caller at my helpdesk to try back on Friday(we’re a school district, so we’re not open on weekends) due to high call volumes. I’d probably be out of a job by the end of the day.

Doughboy on October 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM

I’m shocked that the picture chosen wasn’t that of Fluke or of liblikeaslave.

With the latter they would have covered the:

-males
-females
-homosexuals
-retards
-blacks
-hue-only-made ‘intellectuals’

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Call 1-800-F1UC-KYO

Conservative4Ever on October 21, 2013 at 2:43 PM

“Hello! Representatives are eager to assist you. Please be patient as other callers are being assisted ahead of you. Expected wait time is currently 4 months, 12 days, 9 hours, 23 minutes. You are important to us, so please hold and listen to a recording of pResident Obama as he eloquently describes the totally awesome and wonderful benefits of Obamacare which await you.”

hawkeye54 on October 21, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Small businesses are left in the dark until the hammer actually falls. Not a good way to run a government (or government).

Just like Nancy Pelosi said “you have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it” now doctors have to treat their patients first before they can find out how much they will be reimbursed by medicaid, the part that the chronically ill, those who have preexisting conditions, and the poor use.

iamsaved on October 21, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Doughboy on October 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Meant illegals of any kind…

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Isn’t that picture on the site racist?

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM

As I observed on the other thread with the video of Daniel, there seems to be a theme here.

Daniel is a white guy attending college and with an income. The main page for HealthCare.gov features a white woman. This is far less “ethnic” than the normal propaganda from this administration where they go out of there way to represent every race, gender, and species but whites. I guess they know are appealing to those who will predominantly be gouged if they sign up for this wealth redistribution scheme.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 2:56 PM

” Consumer Reports warns its subscribers to avoid the site altogether for at least a month (emphasis mine, via Gateway Pundit).”

Someone needs to rip CR a new one for that recommendation. I dropped my 20+ year subscription because of their rabid over the top endorsement of Obamacare without any consideration for what the fallout would be for those who already had insurance….. and jobs.

2nd Ammendment Mother on October 21, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Meant illegals of any kind…

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:56 PM

I thought I saw a headline on Drudge last week that they ARE hiring illegals to help administer this mess. It wouldn’t surprise me. No one here legally would want to be associated with Obamacare.

Doughboy on October 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Fox is making this up, right verbaluce?

rogerb on October 21, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Isn’t that picture on the site racist?

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:47 PM

As I observed on the other thread with the video of Daniel, there seems to be a theme here.

Daniel is a white guy attending college and with an income. The main page for HealthCare.gov features a white woman. This is far less “ethnic” than the normal propaganda from this administration where they go out of there way to represent every race, gender, and species but whites. I guess they know are appealing to those who will predominantly be gouged if they sign up for this wealth redistribution scheme.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 2:56 PM

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/20/obamacare-seeks-to-segregate-patients-doctors-by-race/

davidk on October 21, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Obamacare rules for young, part-time workers:

1. Don’t get sick.

2. If you do, die quickly.

(H/T to Alan Grayson, who passed the bill to find out what was in it.)

Marcola on October 21, 2013 at 3:01 PM

kingsjester‏@kingsjester1
That girl that almost fainted behind Obama today must have seen her new Insurance Premium. #tcot #Obamacare

kingsjester on October 21, 2013 at 3:01 PM

The ratio of folks who have lost their existing healthcare vs those how have signed up for T^he exchanges must be 50-1.

Deafdog on October 21, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Keep voting democrat!

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Aside from the ‘glitches’, the big thing they’re going to have to fix is having the site run like the old ‘click here to see your low rate!’ insurance popups – only to find that you have 6 pages to fill out and then at the end instead of getting a rate, you’re asked to fill out your contact info so someone can be in touch.
But this will get fixed.
In the meantime, Fox will continue to make up stories about what folks have to pay or businesses being shut down.
(If indeed it’s all so bad – why do they make stuff up?)

verbaluce on October 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM

You were saying (in the speech thread) sh!thead?

Jeff Weimer on October 21, 2013 at 3:02 PM

After two weekends down, the only improvement is that consumers can fill out applications by hand.

FORWARD!

ted c on October 21, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Next, Consumer Report will be recommending that if you do get an Obamacare policy, don’t make any claims. That just overloads the system and drives up costs, you know.

But keep enjoying the free nude lady in the shopping cart!

Marcola on October 21, 2013 at 3:07 PM

They need to add a third option: Scribble ‘gimme insurance’ on a piece of paper, fold it into a paper airplane, throw it out your window, and cross your fingers.

WhatSlushfund on October 21, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Did you plug the hole yet daddy?

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM

My parents supported Obamacare and announced at our Christmas dinner last year that they would no longer go to Red Lobster or Olive Garden, because of Darden’s call.

Oh well.

22044 on October 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Of course, as long as it was harmless, employees were welcome to work full time (as long as they didn’t go over 40hrs into OT). There were always people who did, especially the cooks who got paid hourly But if it’s going to cost the business money, forget it.

You can intimidate businesses into paying up with Democrats and being on the right side of the power brokers, but you *cannot* make a private entity act against its own best interest.

HitNRun on October 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM

If they are actually seeing the dollar value numbers on providing health insurance to full timers, those numbers must really be scary. I mean limiting a person to under 30 hours means you are going to have to bring another person on to cover or reduce services, and restaurants really can’t do that too much, as they are pretty much bare bones most of the time. That means an additional 12% Social Security match, about 2% for unemployment insurance premiums along with whatever the State makes them toss in for Workmens Comp Insurance, etc. In most States an employer pays an additional 20% of an employees weekly check just to have them working there.

Johnnyreb on October 21, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Why is Obama trying to destroy the country and drive us into crippling communism?

rplat on October 21, 2013 at 3:17 PM

kingsjester‏@kingsjester1
That girl that almost fainted behind Obama today must have seen her new Insurance Premium. #tcot #Obamacare

kingsjester on October 21, 2013 at 3:01 PM

ha

rob verdi on October 21, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Why is Obama trying to destroy the country and drive us into crippling communism?

rplat on October 21, 2013 at 3:17 PM

That is what he was elected to do. It is his mandate from the imbecilic ignorant left.

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Does the recording have an Indian accent?

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM

That would be Raj’s cousin Sanjay, or as you know him, Dave from AT&T 0care customer service…

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 3:19 PM

If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan.

visions on October 21, 2013 at 3:21 PM

FYI:Both red lobster and olive garden are part of Darden Restaurants, which is headed by Clarence Otis, Jr. Mr. Otis, who is black, is an avid supporter of the OBOZOs (surprise!), he’s been to several of OBOZO’s lavish White House parties (surprise!), and he totally supports the lunatic-left food nanny restrictions of MOOCH (surprise!). I wouldn’t be surprised if the recent food health issues at these restaurants are directly tied to the MOOCH-approved menu. As one might expect, otis has contributed substantial sums to OBOZO and other d-cRAT socialist extremists. He’s a real plantation dweller of the d-cRAT party – and EVEN THIS d-cRAT LOWLIFE WON’T SUPPORT THE OBOZCARE ATROCITY !!!!!!

TeaPartyNation on October 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Interesting – the company now advertising “southern fried Maine lobster” – which I consider to be blasphemy (having grown up in Maine) – but really – consider the “heathy foods” implications of that.

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Just in case you thought about deleting your ObamaCare account, here’s what you get when you search for the “delete” button:

4 results for “delete my account”

I’m having trouble logging in to my Marketplace account

How do I terminate my Marketplace coverage?

Individual Account

Updating your information in SHOP

You can checkout any time want, but you can never leave. No function exists for deleting your account.

BobMbx on October 21, 2013 at 3:22 PM

NBC’s Mark Murray trebles down on his Obama lapdog status…sends out tweet…

Mark Murray ✔ @mmurraypolitics

But the GOP has its own Obamacare issue: What happens when the website gets fixed?

… highlights that the GOP will be ‘in trouble’ once the website gets fixed and Obamacare ‘works’….

You.Just.Can’t.Fix.Stupid.

Athos on October 21, 2013 at 3:24 PM

If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. If you like your plan you can keep your plan.

visions on October 21, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Obviously you just haven’t figured out yet that 0bozo is TELLING you – you don’t like your plan.
Just take a swig of this 0care approved koolaid and everything will be all better….

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Just love the tombstone pop-up ads on Obamacare. Gov

SparkPlug on October 21, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Yes the part-timers would probably earn in pay what deductibles will now cost.

So – people will only go to a doctor when they really, really need to….

ObamaCare will result in less healthy, poorer Americans…..

redguy on October 21, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Who needs doctors for health-care? All you need is a website. One click a day keeps the doctors at bay.

SparkPlug on October 21, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Just filled out my ObamaCare application. It asked me how much government red tape I would like to be buried in.

We will all be mummified in red tape from Pharoah Obama.

SparkPlug on October 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM

NBC’s Mark Murray trebles down on his Obama lapdog status…sends out tweet…

Mark Murray ✔ @mmurraypolitics

But the GOP has its own Obamacare issue: What happens when the website gets fixed?

… highlights that the GOP will be ‘in trouble’ once the website gets fixed and Obamacare ‘works’….

You.Just.Can’t.Fix.Stupid.

Athos on October 21, 2013 at 3:24 PM

A website will not deliver better “healthcare”…..
ObamaCare as a system will never be “fixed” because it was not designed to work in the first place.
This will backfire on the progressives, they thought if they blew up healthcare then they could ride to the rescue with single payer. The push to drive the government out of healthcare will be stronger than ever.

redguy on October 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Who needs doctors for health-care? All you need is a website. One click a day keeps the doctors at bay.

SparkPlug on October 21, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Reminds me of this.

22044 on October 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM

My parents supported Obamacare and announced at our Christmas dinner last year that they would no longer go to Red Lobster or Olive Garden, because of Darden’s call.

Oh well.

22044 on October 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Remind them these are Darden restaurants also:

Longhorn Steakhouse
Bahama Breeze
The Capital Grill
Eddie V’s
Yard House

RickB on October 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM

My parents supported Obamacare and announced at our Christmas dinner last year that they would no longer go to Red Lobster or Olive Garden, because of Darden’s call.

Oh well.

22044 on October 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Your folks are going to run out of places to eat and shop in that case.

They may have to order MRE’s from Obama to survive.

redguy on October 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Who needs doctors for health-care? All you need is a website. One click a day keeps the doctors at bay.

SparkPlug on October 21, 2013 at 3:27 PM

If only WebMD could write up whatever prescriptions you might need, based on what the web site diagnosed for you, based on your inputs….
Maybe they’ll put that in healthcare.gov 2.0….

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Darden’s Olive Garden is a joke. I had avoided even trying for over a decade, then went with family at their suggestion.

I ordered risotto. BIG mistake. Their risotto was simply boiled white rice. You know, like the free side dish at cheap Chinese lunchs.

I asked why the “risotto” wasn’t risotto and the server said that’s the way the package comes from the warehouse. They just nuke it.

Seriously.

fred5678 on October 21, 2013 at 3:33 PM

ObamaCare will start on adenoids and appendectomies and then proceeded to bronchitis and Bunyans before getting further into the government alphabet soup of homophobia and racism disease states.

SparkPlug on October 21, 2013 at 3:34 PM

My parents supported Obamacare and announced at our Christmas dinner last year that they would no longer go to Red Lobster or Olive Garden, because of Darden’s call.

Oh well.

22044 on October 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM

ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs

http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/101713-669013-obamacare-employer-mandate-a-list-of-cuts-to-work-hours-jobs.htm

ObamaCare’s impact on jobs is hotly debated by politicians and economists. Critics say the Affordable Care Act, with its employer mandate to provide health insurance, gives businesses an incentive to cut workers’ hours. This year, report after report has rolled in about employers restricting work hours to fewer than 30 per week — the point where the mandate kicks in. Data also point to a record low workweek in low-wage industries.
In the interest of an informed debate, we’ve compiled a list of job actions with strong proof that ObamaCare’s employer mandate is behind cuts to work hours or staffing levels. As of Oct. 17, our ObamaCare scorecard included 351 employers.

redguy on October 21, 2013 at 3:35 PM

The bigger story here: if the government cannot even build and manage a website to sign up, how the heck are they going to manage YOUR healthcare, control costs, and pay providers? No one talks abut that. Government at its finest hour.

SueZeeQ on October 21, 2013 at 3:36 PM

There’s an ancient curse that reads “May you achieve your heart’s desire.”

I think that many who heard “free healthcare” and “If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. If you like your plan you can keep your plan.” thought that they were going to get something that they desired because they thought the “free healthcare” being offered them would be the same quality of health care this nation has established as the finest in the world…only… somehow… in greater quantity for far less money than ever before possible.

The reality is that buried in those 11,588,500 words, 10,535 pages, of rules and regulations regarding people’s health care, beats the black and merciless heart of the IPAB. A panel of non medical personnel, appointed, not elected, whose sole task will be to determine if an individual is to be granted the care they need to maintain a minimum quality, of even to live at all, to be judged only on cost effectiveness.

The reality is that no one, no government, can provide the quality of care this nation expects adding millions more people to the system seeking preventative care, with fewer doctors, fewer hospitals and care facilities, and a health care insurance industry completely crippled with those 10,535 pages of regulation and rules.

The end result is rationing of care with IPAB determining if a person is ‘worth’ spending limited resources on to secure their quality of life and keep them alive.

There is no compassion or mercy in arithmetic.

Most people who want Obamacare to succeed want it, not because they are ill, not because they would not have been treated had they fallen ill, as any person who is ill in the United States may walk into any emergency room and receive treatment, this has been the law, but because they wanted to feel ‘equal’ and the idea of ‘free health care’ appealed to them.

People who are desperately ill, who require care merely to survive or maintain enough quality of life to survive, will be denied care under rationing so that those who want to feel ‘equal’ will be able to have ‘free health care’. This is the ultimate inequality.

Eventually, though, as people grow older, they require that very same quality of life care, like knee and hip implants so that they may remain mobile enough to care for themselves, or a wheelchair so that they might still maintain some level of independence (durable medical equipment), or get a major illness like cancer or cardiac conditions or diabetes, and the odds are that those who wanted ‘free healthcare’ ( free birth control and ‘reproductive care’ for example) will find they, too, fall under that same IPAB rationing, being denied the care they desperately need due to scarcity of providers and resources…

…and find themselves having become the victims of what they believed was their hearts desire.

thatsafactjack on October 21, 2013 at 3:37 PM

I went to see my proctologist on Obamacare.gov and got Error404 colon not found.

Should I worry?

SparkPlug on October 21, 2013 at 3:37 PM

ObamaCare will start on adenoids and appendectomies and then proceeded to bronchitis and Bunyans before getting further into the government alphabet soup of homophobia and racism disease states.

SparkPlug on October 21, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Actually, I think he would start with the homophobia and racism – and if can’t cure you, to HIS satisfaction, then you’re declared terminal – and off to the soylent green factory….

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 3:38 PM

thatsafactjack on October 21, 2013 at 3:37 PM

THREAD WINNER.

Brilliant.

SparkPlug on October 21, 2013 at 3:39 PM

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Lolz. Solyent green factory. Haha.

SparkPlug on October 21, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Remind them these are Darden restaurants also:

Longhorn Steakhouse
Bahama Breeze
The Capital Grill
Eddie V’s
Yard House

RickB on October 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Yes, I think Seasons 52 is on that list too. I don’t think they dine at any of those.

Your folks are going to run out of places to eat and shop in that case.

They may have to order MRE’s from Obama to survive.

redguy on October 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Good point. I guess other restaurant corps will cancel the insurances quietly, though.
I told them they could go to Carraba’s or Bonefish Grill instead. They like Bonefish Grill.

ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs

http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/101713-669013-obamacare-employer-mandate-a-list-of-cuts-to-work-hours-jobs.htm

ObamaCare’s impact on jobs is hotly debated by politicians and economists. Critics say the Affordable Care Act, with its employer mandate to provide health insurance, gives businesses an incentive to cut workers’ hours. This year, report after report has rolled in about employers restricting work hours to fewer than 30 per week — the point where the mandate kicks in. Data also point to a record low workweek in low-wage industries.
In the interest of an informed debate, we’ve compiled a list of job actions with strong proof that ObamaCare’s employer mandate is behind cuts to work hours or staffing levels. As of Oct. 17, our ObamaCare scorecard included 351 employers.

redguy on October 21, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Yep.

22044 on October 21, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Remind them these are Darden restaurants also:

Longhorn Steakhouse
Bahama Breeze
The Capital Grill
Eddie V’s
Yard House

RickB on October 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM

I read somewhere there was a quiet push to allow food stamps at restaurants.

JUSTICE!!!

WryTrvllr on October 21, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Fox News, making sh!t up again, eh verbie?

Midas on October 21, 2013 at 3:56 PM

” I mean limiting a person to under 30 hours means you are going to have to bring another person on to cover or reduce services, ”

I’m guessing they will reduce service – last Mother’s Day, I was unwillingly drug out for lunch at Red Lobster. Right after we put our name on the list for the 2 hour wait, their computers crashed and wouldn’t come back up. Instead of switching to paper tickets and managing the situation, they actually asked the already seated customers to leave and told those in line that they would be closing.

I’m a problem solver type, so I couldn’t stop myself from approaching the manager and asking if they needed help “rallying’ their wait staff to deal with the issue and keep their doors opened. Turns out that it is Company Policy that they are not allowed to do anything without their computer system up and running and were told to close by the Corporate Office.

2nd Ammendment Mother on October 21, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Via Politico:

And Carney left open the possibility that the administration will seek to delay the individual mandate and the open enrollment period to enroll in healthcare through the Affordable Care Act.

He said to expect some HHS guidance “soon” on whether Obamacare’s individual mandate would require people in states that did not participate in the Medicaid expansion.

“If you do not have access to affordable insurance, you wont be penalized for not buying affordable insurance,” Carney said. “The issue is, do you have access to affordable health insurance.”

Resist We Much on October 21, 2013 at 4:17 PM

“If you do not have access to affordable insurance, you wont be penalized for not buying affordable insurance,” Carney said. “The issue is, do you have access to affordable health insurance.”

You keep using that word… I don’t think it means what you think it means…

BTW – who the hell talks like this? They really have the “omg, use this phrase as often as you can to pound it into the LIV mind” talking points well-rehearsed, eh?

Midas on October 21, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Via Politico:

And Carney left open the possibility that the administration will seek to delay the individual mandate and the open enrollment period to enroll in healthcare through the Affordable Care Act.

He said to expect some HHS guidance “soon” on whether Obamacare’s individual mandate would require people in states that did not participate in the Medicaid expansion.

“If you do not have access to affordable insurance, you wont be penalized for not buying affordable insurance,” Carney said. “The issue is, do you have access to affordable health insurance.”

Legislation by Obama diktat? awesome!

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Since you can now look at the plans available in the exchange without giving your info I took a quick look at Iowa’s marketplace. Only two insures bothered to offer plans via the exchange.

agmartin on October 21, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Legislation by Obama diktat? awesome!

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Why not? Obama isn’t bound by any pesky, old-school concepts like adherence to the rule of law. He has already unilaterally granted businesses a one-year delay, despite the fact that nothing in Obamacare gives him the legal authority to change the effective date of the law for businesses (or anyone else). He just waved his imperial wand and presto! — it was done.

Who needs laws or a constitution when we have the All Wise, All Knowing Dear Leader to show us the way?

AZCoyote on October 21, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Carney said. “The issue is, do you have access to affordable health insurance.”

Well short stuff, I did til you started jackin’ with it.

hillsoftx on October 21, 2013 at 4:42 PM

My parents supported Obamacare and announced at our Christmas dinner last year that they would no longer go to Red Lobster or Olive Garden, because of Darden’s call.

Oh well.

22044 on October 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Remind them these are Darden restaurants also:

Longhorn Steakhouse
Bahama Breeze
The Capital Grill
Eddie V’s
Yard House

RickB on October 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Darden has long been a very politically conservative organization.
I hope HotAirheads will support them more & more.
I wish there were some Darden restaurants here in the Philippines that we could go to.

itsnotaboutme on October 21, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Pelosi: We have to pass it to find out what’s in it

Darden: We have to cancel health insurance for 1,000 part-timers because of ObamaCare

1,000 part-timers at Darden just found out what’s in it — a turd sandwich.

Bitter Clinger on October 21, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Delaying the mandate overlooks the elephant in the room…..

What about policies that are already canceled???

Insurance companies or state risk pools are not going to extend coverage because Obama
says he will delay the mandate. All this does is waive the penalty for a year if they decide to do that.
People will still be stuck if they need to get insurance through the exchange.

Ted Cruz is watching and waiting……

redguy on October 21, 2013 at 4:43 PM

It’s all the Tea Party’s fault!!!!

Somehow…

profitsbeard on October 21, 2013 at 4:54 PM

My parents supported Obamacare and announced at our Christmas dinner last year that they would no longer go to Red Lobster or Olive Garden, because of Darden’s call.

22044 on October 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM

I’m with your parents on this one. Not because of Obamacare but because Red Lobster and Olive Garden are to seafood and Italian cuisine what Taco Bell is to Mexican or P.F. Chang’s is to Chinese. Ho Hum and generic.

I may be a little jaded. I live in the DC area where there really isn’t an ethnic cuisine that you can’t get the real thing.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 5:01 PM

My parents supported Obamacare and announced at our Christmas dinner last year that they would no longer go to Red Lobster or Olive Garden, because of Darden’s call.

22044 on October 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM

I don’t know how you do it. I would have disowned my parents then and there.

Resist We Much on October 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM

HHS Propaganda Touts Students Saying It Was “Easy” To Enroll For Obamacare – Update: Student Is Actually A Democratic Party Operative…

Resist We Much on October 21, 2013 at 4:58 PM

In reporting on McNaughton, the Sentinel correctly identifies him as a Valencia College student. What the Sentinel either failed to discover, or decided not to mention, is that McNaughton is a former Democratic Party political operative.

First Chad Henderson (another white guy going to college and with an income) reportedly has the mojo to get through the process. And now Daniel. Both undone by their social media accounts.

I suspect OFA will not be making the same mistake a third time.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 5:05 PM

What about policies that are already canceled???

redguy on October 21, 2013 at 4:43 PM

That’s Obama’s problem. I don’t give a flying fig.

Don’t get me wrong, I know it puts people in a bind but that is Obama’s fault and his problem to fix.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 5:07 PM

I’m with your parents on this one. Not because of Obamacare but because Red Lobster and Olive Garden are to seafood and Italian cuisine what Taco Bell is to Mexican or P.F. Chang’s is to Chinese. Ho Hum and generic.
Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 5:01 PM

There’s a reason Red Lobster restaurants can’t survive in Maine.
I’ve posted a couple other comments about their new “southern fried Maine lobster” – having grown up in Maine, that’s about as blasphemous, food-wise, as you can get.
And I just can’t stand Olive Garden – in my opinion less than average food and lousy service – at least at the ones I’ve been to.

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 5:07 PM

And I just can’t stand Olive Garden – in my opinion less than average food and lousy service – at least at the ones I’ve been to.

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Didn’t Olive Garden ‘partner’ with Mooch on her nutrition programme?

That would be reason enough for me never to step foot in one of their establishments.

Resist We Much on October 21, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Didn’t Olive Garden ‘partner’ with Mooch on her nutrition programme?
That would be reason enough for me never to step foot in one of their establishments.

Resist We Much on October 21, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Not sure – but that would also be enough for me to write them off.

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 5:19 PM

There’s a reason Red Lobster restaurants can’t survive in Maine.
I’ve posted a couple other comments about their new “southern fried Maine lobster” – having grown up in Maine, that’s about as blasphemous, food-wise, as you can get.
And I just can’t stand Olive Garden – in my opinion less than average food and lousy service – at least at the ones I’ve been to.

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Fried lobster? Southern or not, all I can say to that is- What did that lobster ever do to you! But having lived in New Orleans for a number of years I can understand why Maine residents (whatever you call them) are offended. It’s like all the dreck that passes as Jambalaya or Gumbo And yes, the difference between the two is huge not that you would know it in most Cajun or Creole-themed restaurants.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Michelle Obama to promote healthy eating at Olive Garden

Resist We Much on October 21, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Ironic since there is no such thing as healthy eating at Olive Garden starting with the neverending pasta bowl and breadsticks.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM

There’s a reason Red Lobster restaurants can’t survive in Maine.

I’ve posted a couple other comments about their new “southern fried Maine lobster” – having grown up in Maine, that’s about as blasphemous, food-wise, as you can get.

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 5:07 PM

I don’t think it’s the Red Lobster “menu” that prevents them from succeeding here in northern New England, it’s simply because (especially in Maine) there are so many real lobster restaurants. Going to a national chain to eat lobster in Maine would be the same as going to Hawai’i and going to a luau at McDonald’s.

FYI that “Southern Friend Lobster” wasn’t invented by Red Lobster, it supposedly originated at Joe’s Crab Shack (which of course is also now a national chain!).

Del Dolemonte on October 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Fried lobster? Southern or not, all I can say to that is- What did that lobster ever do to you! But having lived in New Orleans for a number of years I can understand why Maine residents (whatever you call them) are offended. It’s like all the dreck that passes as Jambalaya or Gumbo And yes, the difference between the two is huge not that you would know it in most Cajun or Creole-themed restaurants.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM

As an original “Maineiac” I just can’t stand the thought of that particular item being southern fried, although I love fried catfish and other things.

Ya – Del hit the main point more directly about Red Lobster in Maine. When you have a nationwide central warehouse distribution system of frozen products, it’s hard to compete with a local fresh off the boat seafood place. My addition of about the southern fried lobster is just another point against them.

I don’t think it’s the Red Lobster “menu” that prevents them from succeeding here in northern New England, it’s simply because (especially in Maine) there are so many real lobster restaurants. Going to a national chain to eat lobster in Maine would be the same as going to Hawai’i and going to a luau at McDonald’s.

FYI that “Southern Friend Lobster” wasn’t invented by Red Lobster, it supposedly originated at Joe’s Crab Shack (which of course is also now a national chain!).

Del Dolemonte on October 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Yup. That’s about it.
I’ve got family all over New England – but I grew up mostly in Scarboro Maine – well Jr High and HS anyway.
I’m not a big fan of either of those chains, but being in Colorado now, where decent seafood is a bit harder to get, I have gone to Red Lobster occasionally – but I now prefer a good sushi place over Red Lobster any day. But when back in Maine for family visits, nothing but local places – and typically get our seafood from the local fishermen fresh off the boat that morning.

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 6:06 PM

I sincerely believe that a Washington Redskin logo on the web site would attract more people to sign up.

wepeople on October 21, 2013 at 6:45 PM

I sincerely believe that a Washington Redskin logo on the web site would attract more people to sign up.

wepeople on October 21, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Hey – you shouldn’t use that name in public – it’s offensive to a lot of people.
You should from now on refer to them as “the Redskins”.

dentarthurdent on October 21, 2013 at 7:50 PM

thatsafactjack on October 21, 2013 at 3:37 PM

…nice post!

KOOLAID2 on October 21, 2013 at 10:32 PM

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