CNN poll shows majority opposed to GOP House control, Obama approval 44/52

posted at 9:21 am on October 21, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Did the shutdown do lasting damage to the Republican brand? A new poll from CNN shows some short-term damage, at least, in public perception of the party in reference to control of the House.  For the first time since winning the majority in 2010, CNN’s polling shows a majority who disapprove of it, and more than 60% want John Boehner out as Speaker:

Just more than half the public says that it’s bad for the country that the GOP controls the House of Representatives, according to a new national poll conducted after the end of the partial government shutdown.

And the CNN/ORC International survey also indicates that more than six in 10 Americans say that Speaker of the House John Boehner should be replaced.

The poll was conducted Friday through Sunday, just after the end of the 16-day partial federal government shutdown that was caused in part by a push by House conservatives to try and dismantle the health care law, which is President Barack Obama’s signature domestic achievement.

According to the survey, 54% say it’s a bad thing that the GOP controls the House, up 11 points from last December, soon after the 2012 elections when the Republicans kept control of the chamber. Only 38% say it’s a good thing the GOP controls the House, a 13-point dive from the end of last year.

Farther into the piece, we also learn that Barack Obama didn’t fare too well, either.  He’s at 44/52 on job approval, which is where he was in this series before the shutdown began.  Gallup polling over the weekend has him at 44/50, almost the same, although the Saturday average had him at 42/52.  Instead of positioning himself as the adult in the room by encouraging and fostering negotiations, Obama’s job approval eroded significantly in Gallup from 47/46 the week before the shutdown.

Gallup has more bad news for Obama this morning, too. His latest quarterly approval rate fell three points from the previous level. The polling period for the third quarter ended the day before the shutdown:

President Barack Obama averaged a 44.5% job approval rating during his 19th quarter in office, a decline of more than three percentage points from his 18th quarter. That is one of the largest quarter-to-quarter declines of his presidency, behind a nine-point drop in his third quarter and a six-point drop in his 11thquarter.

Most of the days following October 1st gave Obama a lower approval rating than 44.5%, so he’s off to a bad start for Q4.

No one will come out of this unscathed, in other words, but then no one will pay much of a long-term price for it, either.  People will remember the shutdown more academically in a few weeks as other stories take precedence in the media, especially with the disaster at HHS in the ObamaCare rollout.  This CNN poll lays down a marker with which to compare later polls, and those will focus on more significant long-term issues such as jobs, spending, deficits, and incompetents in the executive branch.

On those issues, Republicans will have an edge — and National Journal’s Michael Hirsh believes that the GOP is already winning on the fiscal fight:

When it comes to policy, it is still the Republicans—that is, the tea party, the GOP’s new beating heart—who are still largely setting the agenda. That’s not about to change. They lost on Obamacare, true enough, and except for a hard-core sub-minority of the tea-party faction, it’s unlikely Republicans will be stupid enough to try to wage that futile fight again. But even with this political setback, the tea partiers have made the sequester and debt-ceiling fights the new normal in Washington, as we will find out again in just a few months when the next deadline is reached.

Indeed, going back to 2010, when the GOP took control of the House, nearly everything has gone or more less the Republicans’ way on fiscal issues—they got the Bush tax cuts locked in (except on the highest earners), government spending reduced, and the sequester imposed. Despite Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s efforts to renegotiate the sequester, Obama in effect has conceded he can live with its across-the-board spending levels: In September, the White House announced it would approve a House Republican spending bill that kept the government funded at current levels as long as language that would defund Obamacare was stripped out.

In a longer time frame, all this must be counted as a victory. Increasingly, the tea party is looking like the Bolsheviks to Boehner’s Mensheviks, with the Democrats playing the role of the wobbly czarist regime (despite Obama’s show of toughness this time around). And if you recall, the Bolsheviks—the most zealous, no-compromise revolutionaries, in other words—were the ones who gained the power in the end. What of the polls and the 2014 election? That’s another reason Democrats are declaring victory, of course. Some are even deliriously sensing a possible takeover of the House. But that’s highly unlikely either, along with the much-hoped-for disappearance of the tea party. Remember: The tea-party adherents in the House just don’t care about the polls. At home, in their scarlet-red districts, they’re still beloved. The only thing most of them worry about is whether they are far-right enough to survive a primary challenge. And as long as the current gerrymandered congressional map remains in place, that’s probably all they’re going to have to worry about.

The Nation’s editorial board reached the same conclusion last week after the end of the shutdown:

Because the deal only includes minor concessions, the Beltway consensus is that it represents a resounding defeat for Republicans, who “surrendered” their original demands to defund or delay Obamacare. In the skirmish of opinion polls, that may be true, for now. But in the war of ideas, the Senate deal is but a stalemate, one made almost entirely on conservative terms. The GOP now goes into budget talks with sequestration as the new baseline, primed to demand longer-term cuts in Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. And they still hold the gun of a US default to the nation’s head in the next debt ceiling showdown.

Surrender? Any more “victories” like this and Democrats will end up paying tribute into the GOP’s coffers. …

The GOP may be bearing the brunt of the public’s rage, but anger is also directed at Washington and government generally. Nearly eight in ten say the country is seriously off-track. The Tea Party may be plummeting in public esteem, but it is taking government down with it. There is simply no way to rebuild widely shared prosperity without a government with a clear strategy in the global economy. There is no way to make needed public investments and temper the extreme inequality that threatens our democracy without progressive tax reform. The terms of the Republican “surrender” take us in the wrong direction.

Ahem. The ObamaCare disaster is doing most of the “taking government down with it” work all on its own.  The quicker the GOP gets out of the way and allows the public to focus on it, the quicker their poll numbers will rebound, and the faster the big-government project will collapse.


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Poll of majority Democrats and liberals – “We don’t like GOP control.”

Steve Eggleston on October 21, 2013 at 9:25 AM

I guess I’m surprised as to why it matters if “majority” opposes republican control in October 2013. I didn’t know there was an election today. Now October 2014 with the mid-terms around the corner – that should be of interest.

oldroy on October 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

And they still hold the gun of a US default to the nation’s head in the next debt ceiling showdown.

1) “New Tone”

2) The BIG LIE about default… repeated ad infinitum

ITguy on October 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Just more than half the public says that it’s bad for the country that the GOP controls the House of Representatives, according to a new national poll conducted after the end of the partial government shutdown.

And the CNN/ORC International survey also indicates that more than six in 10 Americans say that Speaker of the House John Boehner should be replaced.

Hell, I want John Boehner replaced. But not with Nancy Pelosi. I’m not exactly clear on this. Is that what the first question is implying? That a majority of Americans seriously want Pelosi back in control? I know 52% of this country was dumb enough to send Obama back to the White House, but giving Dems complete control of the government again crosses the line from being stupid to having a death wish.

Doughboy on October 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Polling for the 2014 elections so soon? Like any poll matters at all about anything at this point. How’s Obamacare polling? Oh right. CNN doesn’t care about that.

HotAirian on October 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

If the Republican leadership was smart (I know, I know) they would just let the ObamaCare train wreck continue and beat the point home at every occasion just how bad it is; Inability to sign up, double or triple the cost of insurance that was once available in a real private marketplace and the government mandate that you have to buy this from THEM, or the IRS will come after you.

Once sticker shock kicks in, even if HHS can fix the healthcare.gov website (and that is doubtful), Republicans might not look all that bad. But the GOP leadership really needs to go and be replaced with people who are not DC insiders and statists like Boehner and McConnell.

simkeith on October 21, 2013 at 9:35 AM

So the media spent the two weeks leading up to -and the two weeks during the “shutdown” blaming the GOP for everything from government employees learning their job is non-essential to the continued existence of Confederate flags, and most of the 841 adults answering a telephone poll reflect that?

Well golly gee, I never saw that coming.

BKeyser on October 21, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Who was right about Obamacare—the GOP or the Democrats? Let’s roll that into a poll question.

hillsoftx on October 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM

A new poll from CNN shows some short-term damage, at least, in public perception of the party in reference to control of the House.

I don’t buy it. It is a combination of the usual Republican haters joined in common cause with the John McCain/ “surrender now to live and fight another day” crowd undermining support.

In short, if there is damage from to the GOP from the shutdown it is coming from the rat bastard traitors who fought Ted Cruz and changes to Obamacare. Who demanded unconditional surrender last week.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 9:40 AM

I suppose you want to know why I can truthfully say “(p)oll of majority Democrats and liberals…”. Let’s look at the crosstabs:

Page 7 has the partisan breakdown – 50% “independent”/”other”, 30% DemocRAT, 20% Republican. So the Rats start out with a 10-point lead.

Page 13 has the crosstabs on the “Do you think PlaceboCare is good, too conservative or too liberal” questions. Of the 50% “independents”, 32% favor PlaceboCare and another 16% say it’s not liberal enough. That strongly suggests that at least 48% of the “independents”, and 24% of the entire poll, consider themselves too liberal to associate themselves with the Rats, which pushes the Rat/liberal portion of the poll to 54% of those polled.

Steve Eggleston on October 21, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Strike one, the poll contacted adults, not likely voters. Get back to me when they get serious.

Johnnyreb on October 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Who was right about Obamacare—the GOP or the Democrats? Let’s roll that into a poll question.

hillsoftx on October 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Who was right? Ted Cruz or Democrats and the surrender weasels of the GOP. I by surrender weasels I mean the ones that didn’t even want to fight. The ones that Ed Morrissey supports without question or critical analysis. The surrender weasels had three years to do something about Obamacare and everytime the chance came up, they caved and swore that they would take action “next time.” Well, now we’ve got the official start to Obamacare and they still are caving and vowing to fight later by living to to fight another day.

It is complete crap. People are fed up with being lied to. With being bullied by the Washington elite. Being told that nothing can be done.

And, BTW, one thing to consider as you hear the surrender weasels bash the effort to defund Obamacare. In theory, Obamacare will be up and running. Say you get an erroneous bill for $3000 for a hospital stay. You are no longer fighting an insurance provider with the ability to withhold payment until the dispute is settled. You are fighting the IRS. You think the IRS is going to wait for payment? It’s just a little thing to keep in mind when you consider the idiots that gleefully caved with that “live to fight another day” Bull feces.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Don’t you think the technical “glitch” will be the same as the shut down, once it is over people will forget it. Except that the media will find some way to allude that the “Republican” shut down was the cause. Is there going to enough pain in the premiums and deductibles that will convince the public that this wasn’t such a swell idea after all.

Cindy Munford on October 21, 2013 at 9:48 AM

How many of these douchebags would overflow their Depends if the ‘rats controlled everything as they did not so long ago.

DeathCare ring a bell, you fools? Be careful what you wish for.

Bishop on October 21, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Strike one, the poll contacted adults, not likely voters. Get back to me when they get serious.

Johnnyreb on October 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM

I think they should also filter out the parasites getting their healthcare subsidized as well. The number of producers thrilled with full-steam-ahead Obamacare can’t be all that high compared to the worthless takers that get “free stuff” from Uncle Obama.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Is there going to enough pain in the premiums and deductibles that will convince the public that this wasn’t such a swell idea after all.

Cindy Munford on October 21, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Enough pain where it matters. Among the producers and young people forced to buy insurance they do not need. Maybe not so much among the parasites who don’t contribute to society.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 9:53 AM

One word: Garbage.

Let’s be a bit more precise than a CNN poll with questionable fundamentals.

Take a look at the district by district numbers and show me, exactly, where there is a Republican incumbent in trouble.

What’s the Democrats strategy for retaking the House? Supporting Obamacare? No wait, the failure to vote for a budget since, what, about 2008? Oh, I’ve got it- the great job the president is doing on the economy…

Be serious. People might no particularly happy with Republicans. But that’s because they are looking for help and getting very little from many House members who like the status-quo.

Using a national poll, to determine the mood of a local electorate is just plain stupid and dishonest.

Marcus Traianus on October 21, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Ed’s desire to shut the Tea Party “types” up continues

As I said…

The GOP will betray you

True_King on October 21, 2013 at 9:55 AM

I think there is plenty of time before 2014 to recover, if recovery is needed at all. Sticker shock should help take care of the rest.

And like others pointed out, the sample seems skewed leftward.

Sekhmet on October 21, 2013 at 9:56 AM

They call the Low Information Voters for a reason. That reason will be obvious in November of 2014.

RSbrewer on October 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM

D+10 poll without pushing any indies. Trash it.

cdog0613 on October 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM

See how powerful they are? First – NBC poll … taken right after Obama came up with 37% approval … now this – they control the narrative. They are the more powerful entity. And they know it.

djl130 on October 21, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Just more than half the public says that it’s bad for the country that the GOP controls the House of Representatives, according to a new national poll conducted after the end of the partial government shutdown.

So why is the poll phrased like that?

Why is not phrased “Whom would you prefer to control the House of Representatives? Would you prefer the Republicans to control the House? Would you prefer the Democrats?”

If you phrased it like that, you would get a more accurate assessment of the public’s leanings in our two party system and getting a better underst–

Oh.

HitNRun on October 21, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Meaningless. The members of the House aren’t subject to national elections. These polls are stupid. I loathe RINOs but will never in my life vote for a Democrat.

Charlemagne on October 21, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Did you see the Frank Luntz forum last week, highlighted on Fox and Friends, etc.? I think I saw it on Chris Wallace yesterday.

The guy in the back row was hammering a lady in the front row, saying in a very irritated, loud and condescending manner, “Do you think we should NOT pay our obligations ? you try not paying your credit card bill.”

. . . couldn’t Frank or SOMEONE have simply said to the man, “We’re not talking about NOT paying someone you owe money to. We’re talking about NOT spending beyond your credit card limits.”
- am I missing something ?

Further, one could talk about “living within your means”, but I know that’s not a concept libs are familiar with.

williampeck1958 on October 21, 2013 at 10:03 AM

The economy and Obamacare will be strong currents against Dems.

We better brace ourselves for a torrent of media decrying conservative/GOP racism, misogyny, and homophobia. PERIOD.

BuckeyeSam on October 21, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Get use to these garbage polls; they’ll be hitting every week for the next year or so.

And the percentages, they’ll shrink the sampling base as much as they have to, to get the numbers they want.

Falling that, the State-run media will default to straight hyperbole to get the job done, e.g. – maintain the proggies death-grip over the Republic.

CPT. Charles on October 21, 2013 at 10:07 AM

***

Further, one could talk about “living within your means”, but I know that’s not a concept libs are familiar with.

williampeck1958 on October 21, 2013 at 10:03 AM

The problems is that the argument waiting in the wings is that we need higher income taxes or, indeed, we need some form of confiscatory wealth tax. In the left’s minds, spending isn’t the problem. We just haven’t been taxing enough and that there are infinite sources of tax revenues.

Unfortunately, too few Republicans have at the ready the stats that taxing 100% of the income of the affluent won’t run the government for a very limited period of time. And confiscating their wealth–a one-shot proposition–does little to improve things either.

BuckeyeSam on October 21, 2013 at 10:08 AM

We keep dismissing the pols as garbage and then are surprised at election time. The reality is we have a dumb electorate and the government we deserve.

neuquenguy on October 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 9:53 AM

I was looking at one of the Bronze plans that is out there that someone linked. Now even if you were getting it free, it appeared that there were three “free” office visits a year to the doctor and than everything else was subject to meeting a pretty hefty deductible that these folks are still not going to be able to meet. Are the taxpayers meeting the deductibles? I am very confused as to how this is fixing anything and I think confused is the very goal that Obama was going for.

Cindy Munford on October 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM

When did the whole “polls as news” thing start? It seems like lazy journalism to me. I’m tired of seeing polls about everything every damn day. Nobody should live their lives or grade their core values and principles by a poll.

I don’t care if their good for one side or the other; I’m sick of seeing polls all the time. Come on, media, find a real story to report on.

Pollsters can take their polls and stick them where the sun doesn’t shine.

AScott on October 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM

neuquenguy on October 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM

We’ve lost our focus. A lot of it should be on the educations of the children. Masses of stupid people are easier led.

Cindy Munford on October 21, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Steve Eggleston:

The truth is in the details. Thanks for finding it.

The real headline should be: Obama Deep Underwater Even In Super-liberal Biased Poll Conducted By Super-liberal-Biased Media.”

LASue on October 21, 2013 at 10:14 AM

CNN’s polls also showed majority of Americans supported Obama’s fight to keep his 2,200 violation of the Constitution (Obamacare Waivers)

CNN’s polls also showed a majority of Americans supported Obama’s/Democrats effort to FORCE them – citizens – to pay for up to 70% of their millionaire politicians’ Obamacare health care premiums.

CNN’s polls showed a majority of Americans – who were told
Obamacare would not cost a dime, would pay for itself, would reduce the deficit, would reduce the cost of health care, would NOT cause people to lose their jobs & health insurance, and would be easy to sign up for…stand with and fought for Obamacare during the shutdown and are doing so even now.

That either tells me CNN is lying their arse off, OR the majority of Americans who now mooch off the federal gvernment and pay no taxes are dumb as dirt and deserve the pain and suffering that is coming.

In order to get Welfare, unemployment, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Obamaphones, etc, they should be FORCED to wear T-Shirts that say, “I am sucking the life out of this country, and it will collapse, in part, because of ME!”

easyt65 on October 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM

That strongly suggests that at least 48% of the “independents”, and 24% of the entire poll, consider themselves too liberal to associate themselves with the Rats, which pushes the Rat/liberal portion of the poll to 54% of those polled.

Steve Eggleston on October 21, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Thanks Steve.

We keep dismissing the pols as garbage and then are surprised at election time. The reality is we have a dumb electorate and the government we deserve.

neuquenguy on October 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM

The reason polls are taken is to push the narrative. You hear over and over that the majority doesn’t like Republicans and you push more people into the majority. (Hey! The majority must be right because it’s the majority.)

Vince on October 21, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Ok, talk about your basically crap poll:

from the PDF page 7at CNN:

A total of 841 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones. All respondents were asked questions concerning basic demographics, and the entire sample was weighted to reflect national Census figures for gender, race, age, education, region of country, and telephone usage. Among the entire sample, 30% described themselves as Democrats, 20% described themselves as Republicans, and 50% described themselves as Independents or members of another party

Come on, Ed this is total horse manure!

Page 1:

Interviews with 841 adult Americans conducted by telephone by ORC International on October 18-20, 2013. The margin of sampling error for results based on the total sample is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
The sample includes 596 interviews among landline respondents and 245 interviews among cell phone respondents.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/10/21/rel12a.pdf

Adult americans. So essentially anyone over 16? Or what?

Un believable.

dogsoldier on October 21, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Polls like these are meaningless and you know it, Ed.

The media/Democrats/GOP Establishment is trying their possible best to solidify the meme that the push by Ted Cruz and other conservatives to shut down the Govt. did great damage to us.

You know the polls I would like taken?

1. Who would you prefer to be in charge of the House? The GOP Establishment or conservatives/tea partiers?

2. Who would you prefer to be in charge of the Senate? The GOP Establishment or conservatives/tea partiers.

3. Did you support the fight by conservatives/tea partiers over the CR/Obamacare? Yes or No.

Media outlets should try taking unambiguous polls and not these general ones that they try to then use to vilify conservatives/tea partiers.

TheRightMan on October 21, 2013 at 10:31 AM

The only poll that counts – November 2014.

gophergirl on October 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM

As a TP sympathizer (anything Kibbe says or does scares me), they did do a terrible job messaging during the shut down; therefore their polls numbers should be down a little.

There is a lesson in this that sometimes it isn’t what you say or do, it’s allowing your enemy to implode on their own.

Tater Salad on October 21, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Guys, it doesn’t matter if the poll is total horse crap, they are going to run with. These are the same people who believe and promote man made global warming.

Cindy Munford on October 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Steve Eggleston on October 21, 2013 at 9:40 AM

You got there first!

We keep dismissing the pols as garbage and then are surprised at election time. The reality is we have a dumb electorate and the government we deserve.

neuquenguy on October 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM

It’s worse than garbage. It’s a deliberate attempt to push lies on stupid mentally lazy people.

Zero’s real approval is under 30%

dogsoldier on October 21, 2013 at 10:37 AM

How many of the 54% can put together two sentences on why they “think” Republicans should not control the House? Furthermore, how many of the 54% can name one of their two senators, any supreme court justice, or the number of their congressional district? What’s more, I wonder how many of the 54% can differentiate, by multiple choice, the difference between “debt ceiling” and “default.”
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Republicans should make use of this ignorance and do what the Democrats do: promise more and deliver less. These are ignorant, compliant, media-driven, peer-pressure influenced citizens who need to be told what’s good for them.
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Polls: the clues are in there, Republicans!

ExpressoBold on October 21, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Guys, it doesn’t matter if the poll is total horse crap, they are going to run with. These are the same people who believe and promote man made global warming.

Cindy Munford on October 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Unfortunately, we have to expose every lie they put out. The GOP must start refuting the lies or they are sunk.

dogsoldier on October 21, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Ooh, a CNN poll! Oh boy! Now I know what Eugene Robinson, Tom Friedman, Dana Milbank, Ezra Klein, and that red-headed spinster fron the East, Maureen Dowd, are going to write about this week!

Meanwhile, I’ll go check the only ‘poll’ that matters, the pole at The Pussycat Lounge.

M240H on October 21, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Polls: the clues are in there, Republicans!

ExpressoBold on October 21, 2013 at 10:38 AM

A few weeks ago someone performed an equally scientific poll (/snort) of people on the street asking who Eric Holder is. Of the few who claimed to know, many asserted that Holder is lead singer of a rap group.

dogsoldier on October 21, 2013 at 10:41 AM

It’s a surprise the percentage of tax takers equal those who want the Democrats in control of the house.

They paid money for this. Or Googled it.

CW20 on October 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Given the full scale assault by the media, many talking heads and a bunch of GOP RINOs laying blame for everything on the TP/GOP it is surprising that the TP isn’t being blamed for every problem known to mankind. When so many of the low-information voters believe whatever Jon Stewart tells them it’s hard to expect them to comprehend dull facts.

katiejane on October 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM

When so many of the low-information voters believe whatever Jon Stewart tells them it’s hard to expect them to comprehend dull facts.

katiejane on October 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Yeah. We need to tell them in story foramat. Good metaphors, analogies and similies. “Obamacare is like x”. Obama’a approval is lower than x”.

oldroy on October 21, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Obamacare is a noose around America’s neck. There. That about does it.

Obama’s approval is lower than Bush’s approval. There. That’s good too.

oldroy on October 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM

The GOP must start refuting the lies or they are sunk.

dogsoldier on October 21, 2013 at 10:39 AM

They are sunk, along with the rest of us.

Cindy Munford on October 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM

I trust a CNN poll about as much as I trust John McCain.

bw222 on October 21, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Don’t forget that this include the disgusted TEA party and other conservatives who hate the RINOs passionately.

Doesn’t mean they’ll vote for Pelosi…who will deserve the hammer, if amnesty passes.

Schadenfreude on October 21, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Strike one, the poll contacted adults people over 17, not likely voters. Get back to me when they get serious.
Johnnyreb on October 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM

FIFY.

Marcola on October 21, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Yeah, so what? I think it’s bad too. It would probably be marginally worse if the Democrats controlled it, but that doesn’t make it good that the Republicans do.

besser tot als rot on October 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM

I don’t buy it. It is a combination of the usual Republican haters joined in common cause with the John McCain/ “surrender now to live and fight another day” crowd undermining support.

In short, if there is damage from to the GOP from the shutdown it is coming from the rat bastard traitors who fought Ted Cruz and changes to Obamacare. Who demanded unconditional surrender last week.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Denial.

Good Lt on October 21, 2013 at 11:45 AM

At this point who gives a crap? The Low info voters have WON.

When your enemies control schools, eventually they will win.

All the time I point out that EACH time in the last 40 years the Democrats get control of White House + Congress the economy tanks big time. And when the GOP gets control of one branch they fix things.

People still start harping on Republicans and “big business”, etc.

The fact this bumbling IDIOT in the white house has 44 percent approval is outright SHOCKING.

Its over people, might as well grab some liquor on your way out.

DavidM on October 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

And is you persist in believing the mathematical garbage flowing from CNN, please see me . . . I have several large bridges to sell.

rplat on October 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

There is ONE reason why the Republicans won’t lose the House.

Nancy Pelosi.

GarandFan on October 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM

And Ted The Cruz-sader is running around bitching and moaning, kvetching and bawling because the senate GOP didn’t follow him on the Charge of the Dim-Witted Brigade. Egads, this dude is giving Sarah Palin a run for her money.

MJBrutus on October 21, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Old news. Laser focus now on amnesty. Get with it.

Kissmygrits on October 21, 2013 at 12:27 PM

I know 52% of this country was dumb enough to send Obama back to the White House, but giving Dems complete control of the government again crosses the line from being stupid to having a death wish.

Doughboy on October 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM

but that 52% want their free obama phone …. and all the other FSA goodies ….

conservative tarheel on October 21, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Its CNN, no $hit people dont like the GOP over there.

DUH thats like asking Hitler if he likes Jews.

TX-96 on October 21, 2013 at 1:27 PM

I waited until late in the day to post on this topic. I wanted to see how this story was spun by the defund/shutdown supporters. As expected you guys are in full denial about what happened. Obama didn’t win the shutdown battle because the Republican leadership folded. The Republican leadership folded because the public was siding with the President and the Democrats. The longer it went the more lasting the damage would be. I know you think that public was on your side because “nobody you knew thought that Obama was winning.” Well you need to get out more. If I end up losing my Second Amendment rights, have my income reduced through tax increases and end up with single payer healthcare because you didn’t know anybody who voted for Obama then I will hold you responsible for the Democratic Party permanent takeover. The Kamikaze brigade deserves nothing less than to live under socialism. It’s the rest of us who don’t.

jerryofva on October 21, 2013 at 4:54 PM

jerryofva on October 21, 2013 at 4:54 PM

It’s not spin to point out the fact that the poll is a lie and that what Cruz said is correct.

Any poll that samples 17 year olds and more than 50% socialist libturds is ridiculous.

If the Vichy republicans in the senate hadn’t stabbed us all in the back they would have forced Zero to cave. The GOP folded because they hate and fear real conservatives.

dogsoldier on October 21, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Perhaps you could ask President Romney about how the polls were fixed.

Deluding yourself about the public’s reaction to this will not help. Realism above all.

jerryofva on October 21, 2013 at 6:01 PM

jerryofva you’re either an idiot or a liberal. Yeh, let’s act like democrats so republicans can survive…oh…wait…. if we act like liberals then nothing will stop the loss of those other liberties (you dolt) anyway….
What I wish is someone (like you Ed or Allah or someone that says they are conservative) would quit repeating the other sides talking points from OBVIOUSLY fixed/slanted polls and publish polls of our own weighted the same way ONLY TOWARD THE CONSERVATIVE POINT OF VIEW…..I mean are you really that stupid??????
I will hold that opinion until I see a “HOT AIR” poll from you all……..

if you have the cajones….

colonelkurtz on October 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM

and Ed, do you really think anyone who put that poll together had even the tiniest ant-fart of a thought about “journalistic integrity”???????
ED: “Harummmph! Well, our name would be on it…”
yeh, that’s the point, Use what credibility you have to change the conversation. And if you won’t, they will and that is why we lose when shaping public opinion. But no, you will continue to talk about what they are saying….

colonelkurtz on October 21, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Given that every media story has blamed the Republicans for every problem in gorvernment and the shutdown and the failure of Obamacare, how can anyone be surprised by these poll results? If the media would provide correct information then the answers might mean something. Now it just means that they have seen the negative reports in the media and haven’t looked at the information more closely.

talkingpoints on October 21, 2013 at 8:31 PM

…I got your pole!

KOOLAID2 on October 21, 2013 at 10:48 PM

I disapprove of the restart. That means overall I suppose I disapprove of the failed Republican surrender monkey kabuki theater.

Do not aim a gun unless you intend to shoot. Don’t shoot unless you intend to do severe damage to the target. The GOP old guard did none of that. So, sure I disapprove and want them out of their jobs. Then I want their replacements to do it right.

{^_^}

herself on October 22, 2013 at 3:54 AM