Chamber of Commerce, business groups looking to dislodge tea party candidates in 2014?

posted at 8:01 pm on October 21, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

There have been several reports out over the past few days about an evidently riled business-lobby community in the wake of the government shutdown and Congress’s flirtation with default, and that — especially in the event of another fiscal showdown this January/February — several major business groups are apparently thinking about pulling on their extra-establishmenty boots and doin’ work on behalf of what they see as more moderate and “business-friendly” candidates in next year’s pre-midterm primaries. Via the Financial Times:

In particular, attention is focusing on how to tilt the balance of power within the Republican party towards more moderate members who are less likely than staunch conservative Tea Party lawmakers to encourage brinkmanship over the budget.

“The shutdown exposed how high the stakes are. It is time to get back involved,” says David French, senior vice-president for government relations and chief lobbyist at the National Retail Federation (NRF), which represents many US retailers. …

Mr French said he did not believe the relationship was “profoundly damaged” and noted that on “95 per cent of the items” even the most ardent Tea Partiers and the business community were in agreement. Moreover, he said many of the disagreements were over “tactics” rather than policy and that Democrats shared some of the blame in the US political dysfunction.

But he added that if the business community was “particularly angry at the Tea Party, it is because they risked a whole lot in order to make a point I think any direct mail marketer could make with a first-class stamp”.

If more business groups do end up throwing their support behind what they see as more centered candidates, though, how much of an impact will it have? Politico points out some of the skepticism:

But despite the public grousing and aggressive posture of top executives and Washington operatives, there’s little evidence that trade associations and other business-minded groups will actually be able to move the needle in the 2014 election.

“The Senate Conservatives Fund, Heritage Action and FreedomWorks are really just eating the lunch of some of the normal business groups,” said Dan Mattoon, former executive director of the National Republican Congressional Committee. …

“Fundamentally, if the business community wants to be more engaged in the grass-roots politics, they have to have a permanent presence there,” Heritage Action’s Dan Holler said. “Arguably, there are local businesses at every level. They could be the conduit for that message. The problem is the policies big business groups are trying to sell don’t resonate outside of Washington.”

Advocates of pushing the primary envelope are looking largely to the Chamber of Commerce to lead the charge. The business group has long had one of the most active political operations in Washington and also is used to soliciting big checks from its members. …

Chamber President Thomas Donohue is all in,” the source said.

But Donohue was coy on whether or not any of this is actually happening at a recent breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor:

“We have no idea what we are going to have on the table. We still have to see who is running, we still have to see what happens on the next activity on the deficit. We still have to see what the circumstances are,” Mr. Donohue said. The chamber will begin making decisions about its congressional election activities in the first quarter of 2014, according to Bruce Josten, the chamber’s executive vice president for government affairs, who also spoke at the breakfast.

Donohue was asked about Senator Cruz, who argued that the House should tie a vote to fund the government with defunding of the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. “I don’t know Senator Cruz,” he said. “We are all getting to watch him. I sort of think about him as a tennis player. You know if you are going to rush the net all the time you better have a lot of motion to the left and the right. He hasn’t proved that to me yet.”

Hmmm. I suppose we’ll eventually see how all of this plays out next year, but going back to the Financial Times piece, I would merely highlight a couple of points made in their conclusion via a conversation with House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa. Emphasis mine:

Darrell Issa, the Republican congressman who chairs the House oversight committee and is a former businessman, said business would be helped if John Boehner, the Republican Speaker, had 20 more Republican votes to help get legislation passed, which in turn would weaken the more hardline arm of the party.

But he warned that teaching a lesson to hardliners should not come at the expense of handing the House majority back to Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic leader in the lower chamber, whose policies on energy such as cap and trade, for instance, are seen as far more dangerous to business interests.

Mr Issa also pointed a finger of blame at the companies themselves, in a sign that frayed relations between business and Republicans cut both ways, saying they were often too focused on their narrow self-interest. “Microsoft, IBM, Archer Daniels – they do not have an ideology. They will give money to people who hurt 80 per cent of what they care about if it helps their bottom line,” he said.


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You are all wanting the Democrats to run things, that is why you are so mad at the Republicans all the time.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Good grief, your unhinged.

Midas on October 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Why can’t the establishment rally around the conservatives in the party?

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Unfortunatety, they are two different critters.

KCB on October 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Dropped an L somewhere.

KCB on October 21, 2013 at 9:20 PM

bluegill on October 21, 2013 at 9:14 PM

I am not willing to be in the minority… it is more important to win back the government…. I’m not worried about each individual issue… I have am against amnesty, but it is becoming less important to me when I realize that people I thought were hoping to win back power, only want to end the Republican Party.

Now I’m sure you can quote that again and think you won some fight… but you are evading the real issue aren’t you?

You are destroying the only institution that can end Socialism.

Why are you doing that?

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:20 PM

We can’t go back wards. But getting revenge against Bush is not going to stop spending.

Letting the Democrats run everything for the foreseeable future is not stopping spending.

If you think you can do anything but complain if you have 30 perfect Senators and the Democrats have 70 Senators.

You have no answers. You only destroy out of revenge.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM

If you think having 51 McCain/Graham’s in the Senate is going to stop spending, then you’re stupider than you sound at the moment.

Hell, you can have 70 of them and you’re still going to see the country lurch leftward. Get a grip.

Midas on October 21, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Page two bish…

KCB on October 21, 2013 at 9:21 PM

KCB on October 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

You’re most welcome. :)

I just can’t believe HA doesn’t have one thread on the Schweizer story. This is huge, and it’s as if they couldn’t care less.

WTF did Michelle Malkin sell this thing? * sigh *

BabyGrace on October 21, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Hell, you can have 70 of them and you’re still going to see the country lurch leftward. Get a grip.

Midas on October 21, 2013 at 9:20 PM

So then what? You have the same goal as the far left. You think if you cause enough chaos you will be able to take over afterward?

I really don’t’ understand the goal?

If it is so hopeless why are you talking about politics at all?

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Why can’t the establishment rally around the conservatives in the party?

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Because the establishment sees themselves as the conservatives in the party and folks like Cruz as radicals that are messing up the good deal they’ve got with the Democrats.

Happy Nomad on October 21, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Just got in after visiting with my Congress Critter and haven’t read the thread, yet…

“The shutdown exposed how high the stakes are. It is time to get back involved,”

Hey, azzhats, while you were sitting this one out, the Tea Party has been fighting tooth and nail to save America.

You’re welcome.

Fallon on October 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Unfortunatety, they are two different critters.

KCB on October 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Which means you need to go to the Libertarian Party and leave the Republicans alone.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

I miss my pubbie Gov, Crist.
We need more like him! He was a R,after all.
You damn Cons ruined it.

bazil9 on October 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Most “big business” has nothing to do with illegals. The big corps need skills, not strong backs. Most illegals are actually working in SMALL businesses – construction, restaurants, picking fruit on smaller farms, etc. Big businesses have to comply with laws and the HR departments are diligent about making you prove your identity — birth certificates, SS cards, passports, drivers licenses — and not just one document but multiple.

Big businesses are more focused on H-1B and green card immigrants, that is legal immigrants. They want more of those. And those are the people that are displacing the middle class. The illegal immigrants are not working in cubicles. And big businesses don’t mow your lawns.

SunSword on October 21, 2013 at 9:25 PM

But having 30 perfect5 Senators, is destroying the country, not saving it.

The Democrats are going to run everything for the next two centuries if we do what you want.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:25 PM

WTF did Michelle Malkin sell this thing? * sigh *

BabyGrace on October 21, 2013 at 9:21 PM

I know!

KCB on October 21, 2013 at 9:27 PM

You have no answers. You only destroy out of revenge. petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM

After 100 years of backstabbing prog r’s joining the prog d’s,, your problem with that is what?

My favorite lamp post and brick walls are un-affiliated.

wolly4321 on October 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM

nobar on October 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Lolz!

Bmore on October 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM

So then what? You have the same goal as the far left. You think if you cause enough chaos you will be able to take over afterward?

I really don’t’ understand the goal?

If it is so hopeless why are you talking about politics at all?

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:22 PM

We’re replacing the old guard, one primary at a time. Thats hardly chaos.

And we do it, so that the next generation of Republican politicians understand that we expect conservative policies from them and not leftish deviations like in the Bush years.

This shouldnt be hard to understand for anyone.

Valkyriepundit on October 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Which means you need to go to the Libertarian Party and leave the Republicans alone.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

“Shut up!” said Ken, with authority.

KCB on October 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM

But having 30 perfect5 Senators, is destroying the country, not saving it.

How does your brain work?

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 9:29 PM

We can’t go back wards. But getting revenge against Bush is not going to stop spending.

Your politics argues otherwise. You are a regressive. You live to regress the nation back to a time where instead of a nation of citizens we have a nation of serfs and slaves.

Letting the Democrats run everything for the foreseeable future is not stopping spending.

Letting regressive Republicans run everything will not stop spending either. If they will not learn their lessons, then the reprimands will continue. Once they show they have learned their lessons, then they can go play again.

If you think you can do anything but complain if you have 30 perfect Senators and the Democrats have 70 Senators.

I have never argued otherwise. I guess it is your little strawman. Do you rape him as well as you beat and burn him?

You have no answers. You only destroy out of revenge.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM

We had a discussion a few days back that came around to you raising children. I asked you how you raised your children. Care to answer that now?
Did you love them enough to stop them from doing bad things? Did you start by telling them no. Explaining why you said no. Allowing them the opportunity to correct their behavior. If they did not then increase the reprimand to perhaps taking away something they wanted at the time, such as a toy, dessert, send them to bed early? If they still did not correct did you ever reprimand them with an escalation to corporeal punishment in the form of spanking?

Or did you love your children by watching them burn themselves. Allowing them to run out in traffic. Letting them smoke and drink in the house at a young age and even be willing to pay for those things for them? When they did bad in school did you increase their allowance and buy them that special present they always wanted? And when they finally dropped out of school in grade 10, did you buy them a car so they could drive around their drug using disease ridden friends around town?

Which one of those is love?

astonerii on October 21, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Petunia, you are now spamming the same straw man over and over. You’re not worth the time.

bluegill on October 21, 2013 at 9:29 PM

The Democrats are going to run everything for the next two centuries if we do what you want.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:25 PM

The Democrats (Left) have been running everything since the New Deal, dear.

Punchenko on October 21, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Lolz!

Bmore on October 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM

If I was any faster of a typer, I would have included the “Leave brittney alone” video.

nobar on October 21, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Unfortunatety, they are two different critters.

KCB on October 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Which means you need to go to the Libertarian Party and leave the Republicans alone.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Sounds to me like you are either a democrat (most likely) or are one of those people sent in to take over the republican party by the democrats. Much like how the schools were taken over by Marxists and Hollywood as well.
So, a better argument would be that you need to go back to your Democrat party and leave the Republican party alone.

astonerii on October 21, 2013 at 9:32 PM

When business bureaucracy runs counter to your interest. Is its nature.

Bmore on October 21, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Let’s face facts – If this is true we’ve been duped.

The Chamber of Commerce obviously supports Obamacare because it takes the costs off of business and puts it onto the back of the government.

They also obviously fully support illegal immigration as a way of dropping salary rates.

Add in Obama tossing tax kickbacks and freebies to the companies and unions that play along and we’re ripe to become a sheepleist state. Controlled by the political elite.

Skywise on October 21, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Which means you need to go to the Libertarian Party and leave the Republicans alone.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

And you need to go to the Rat Party and leave the Republicans alone.

Steve Eggleston on October 21, 2013 at 9:32 PM

nobar on October 21, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Lolz! ; ) Too Funny!

Bmore on October 21, 2013 at 9:32 PM

astonerii on October 21, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Beat me by thatmuch ;-)

Steve Eggleston on October 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM

I want to get the Country back! Not just complain.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 8:41 PM

The path you have chosen is the path to socialism and you are drinking the koolaid in large gulps. Hope it tastes really good, because the Liberal Establishment (which also includes the GOP Establishment) wants you drink it all down. It will anesthetize you as the forge those chains around your wrists and ankles.

The Chamber of Commerce of the US, the leader of the crony capitalists, would like to thank you for your efforts. May your chains rest lightly upon you.

Quartermaster on October 21, 2013 at 9:34 PM

We need truly conservative leaders. They are being painted by the media as extremists because they think we should live within our means. Everyone knows 15-20 trillion dollar deficits are way better. Insanity rules. Shut up Petunia. You are an Idiot.

KCB on October 21, 2013 at 9:39 PM

you need to go to the Libertarian Party and leave the Republicans alone. petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

STFU. Been playing your stupid game for decades. Sit down and shut up. You are right about one thing only. Fix it or destroy it. Only you don’t want to fix it.

You have to be one of the stupidest people on here. I’m not the brightest,,

But dayum,,,

wolly4321 on October 21, 2013 at 9:40 PM

petunia

If we were republicans like you, we’d be democrats.

So Socialism is fine with you? That’s what I thought.

petunia

Says the so-called anti-socialist “republican” who wants to elect republicans who will pass amnesty for 50 million new democrat voters who will then vote for democrat candidates who will give them the socialism you pretend to be against, lol.

The reality is you’re fine with socialism no matter who it comes from. It’s why your biggest targets are always those who reject it.

xblade on October 21, 2013 at 9:41 PM

If more business groups do end up throwing their support behind what they see as more centered candidates, though, how much of an impact will it have?

You mean they bring in the same people and battle plan the Romney campaign used? Nothing sells to the common American working 9-5 (if they still have a job) like a bunch of hedge fund folks…

Which message will work better..

(1) Individual liberty, free market capitalism, and throw the greedy bums out

OR

(2) Lower capital gains taxes, crony capitalism, and cheap labor

William Eaton on October 21, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Unfortunately, Thomas Donahue and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce have proven time again that they don’t care about the future of this country. They are about crony capitalism and profits subsidized by the taxpayers (se General Electric).

bw222 on October 21, 2013 at 9:47 PM

xblade on October 21, 2013 at 9:41 PM

I did not ever support amnesty. Some body pulled a quote where I said I didn’t care about it at that moment. Fake Conservatives will do that. They have no real issues, except revenge on Bush.

Don’t question my conservatism, because I am more conservative than you in every area of life I am certain.

And I am not going to play that game with you anymore.

But I have only recently realized that many who claim Conservatism on this site are only interested in destroying the Republican Party. They do not want to win elections at all, just punish the Party.

You need to find a Party that you like and be the minority you want to be. Because you are destroying this Party.

The Republican Party reflects the views of half the country, and there are more who are not as Conservative as I am, and I’m okay with them being in the same party with me.

You are destroying the country by destroying the Republican Party.

I want you to leave the Party if you hate it so much. It has never been a party of Purity.

Not under Reagan or anyone.

You can play the gotcha all night, but you admit you would rather have no power than share power with anyone who is not pure. That is not the Republican Party. Get out.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:55 PM

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:55 PM

you never answered my question. Avoiding the answers that destroy your argument?

astonerii on October 21, 2013 at 9:56 PM

leave the Republicans alone.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

…take your own advice!

KOOLAID2 on October 21, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Don’t question my conservatism, because I am more conservative than you in every area of life I am certain.

Is this AnninCA under a new nic?

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 9:57 PM

You can play the gotcha all night, but you admit you would rather have no power than share power with anyone who is not pure. That is not the Republican Party. Get out.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:55 PM

The problem here is that conservatives have 0 power in the current structure. It has not always been the case. The party was minority for almost 50 years until the conservatives revived it and brought it out of the wilderness from the 1980s through 1998, with 1994 being the year it finally came into the majority. In just those few years conservatives gave the republican party such a great name that it continued to find favor in elections until 2006 even though in 1999 it had already reverted back to its old form of the 1940s through 1980s. By 2006 those that gave them any credibility, credibility based on conservative actions gave up on them and gave the power to the democrats.
Thus, if you really want to be in the minority, you are arguing just for that. If you really want the Republican party to be majority, then the real and only true path is increasing the number of Conservatives elected into the party and actually having conservative accomplishments.

By the way, no, you are not conservative in your life. Not even remotely so.

astonerii on October 21, 2013 at 10:01 PM

I am not willing to be in the minority… it is more important to win back the government….

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:20 PM

The establishment GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress between 2003 – 2006. What did it get us? A Chief Justice who re-wrote ObamaCare to make it constitutional, Medicare Plan D, No Child Left Behind, trillions in debt, Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

bw222 on October 21, 2013 at 10:06 PM

…and HA couldn’t care less.

BabyGrace on October 21, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Sent the CBC Palin op-ed in as a tip earlier. Thought it would have been picked up yesterday – latest this AM – by HotAir as it was mentioned in several threads, but no such luck – so I sent it in as a tip. Maybe they’ll make it to Quotes tonight though I’m not holding my breath.

unaffiliated on October 21, 2013 at 10:08 PM

s AnninCA under a new nic? Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 9:57 PM

I’d buy that.

wolly4321 on October 21, 2013 at 10:08 PM

The Republican Party reflects the views of half the country.

No they don’t. Not this rat bunch of progs. That’s why 30 that did would beat 51 who don’t,,

wolly4321 on October 21, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Hey Flowery chick…your “concern” is noted for what it really represents. Most people with more than two brain cells to rub together have realized that there is absolutely no difference between voting for Establishment RINOs and the Socialists. I saw you attempting to peddle this same line of crap at Ace’s place. With “Conservatives” like you, more concerned with what initial a Pol has been able to peddle, we are on a path to the Utopian State. Look inward and stop projecting. It outs your true purpose here, not that you had it disguised in any way.

ManWithNoParty on October 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

But he added that if the business community was “particularly angry at the Tea Party, it is because they risked a whole lot in order to make a point I think any direct mail marketer could make with a first-class stamp”.

This guy definitely does not get it. He thinks we should do what we’ve always done. Direct mail? In the trash. Car crash in the street? Out to the curb we go.

Vince on October 21, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Is this AnninCA under a new nic?

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Does she have a killer meatloaf recipe.

RickB on October 21, 2013 at 10:29 PM

…..which in turn would weaken the more hardline arm of the party.

You mean the pro-liberty, smaller government arm of the party? This was the only reason I have voted republican – because I assumed they also were pro-liberty, pro fiscal responsibility. If they are just crony capitalists, why would I even bother to vote for them?

The message of moderate republicans seems to be: “big government is great, as long as we run it”. well, I just can’t support that.

LilyBart on October 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Mr Issa also pointed a finger of blame at the companies themselves, in a sign that frayed relations between business and Republicans cut both ways, saying they were often too focused on their narrow self-interest. “Microsoft, IBM, Archer Daniels – they do not have an ideology. They will give money to people who hurt 80 per cent of what they care about if it helps their bottom line,” he said.

Found an interesting app for my iPhone called 2ndVote. Microsoft and IBM get rated a 2 and 2.3, claiming 2 of the top 3 most liberal scores for the technology companies 2ndVote tracks. They definitely have an ideology.

OccamsRazor on October 21, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Conservative-bashing, McCain-idolizing RINO petunia on caring more about stopping the Tea Party than stopping amnesty:

YOu know. I don’t even care about amnesty anymore as much as I care that the Tea Party can’t do anything for me.
petunia on October 19, 2013 at 4:39 PM

bluegill on October 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Is this AnninCA under a new nic?

Murphy9 on October 21, 2013 at 9:57 PM

I was thinking the exact same thing. I second that idea.

derft on October 21, 2013 at 11:24 PM

So then what? You have the same goal as the far left
petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Who do you think is running the country now?

Dreadnought on October 22, 2013 at 1:12 AM

It’s pretty entertaining to see the surrender monkeys throw a nervous, poo-flinging fit simply because the GOP actually took a stand for once. It was a disorganized stand, not perfectly executed, and had multiple fronts to contend with. Certainly it was a long play to begin with, but it was beautiful to see them actually contend.

Concern trolls note: it’s true that conservatives are not wedded to the eternal preservation of the GOP. We’re in this four our country, and our generations. We’d happily face actual privation to see our nation restored to a sane fiscal path and a limited, small government. Half measures are worse than nothing.

TexasDan on October 22, 2013 at 1:49 AM

Yeah, because what this country needs is more cronyism.

stenwin77 on October 22, 2013 at 6:09 AM

Not surprised at the Chamber of Commerce. Those twits are nothing more than a bunch of “community organizers” who try to “improve business relations with the community.”

If you see the chamber types in my town, it’s full of lib-progs who have failed at everything else short of a government job.

There, I’ve said it.

Turtle317 on October 22, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Hot Air looking to help dislodge tea party candidates in 2014?

Ding ding ding. This is why I rarely visit this establishment propaganda machine anymore.

Mr. Arrogant on October 22, 2013 at 8:44 AM

I wonder if today will see a return of Looney Tuney ‘Tunia.

bluegill on October 22, 2013 at 8:47 AM

doin’ work on behalf of what they see as more moderate and “business-friendly” candidates

You mean such as the current administration?

Perhaps Democrats who have marched lock-step with Mr. Obama on his destructive economic agenda?

Oh wait, “moderate” Republicans who have helped saddle our nation with debt and never met an appropriation they didn’t like?

Our nation has fundamental fiscal issues which are leading down a road that will not end well for anyone. One might hope, of all people, the business community would understand it is time for some very tough, meaningful measures to change the course Washington has put us on.

What’s you strategy to get things done guys- elect more fence sitters?

Marcus Traianus on October 22, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Alfonzo Rachel blasts neo confederate libertarians.

I agree with everything Zo says in this welcome speech.

Basilsbest on October 22, 2013 at 9:42 AM

For KingGold.

Bmore on October 22, 2013 at 9:56 AM

it is because they risked a whole lot in order to make a point

aaaand that’s where I stopped. Sorry Bub. Doesn’t hold water. I’m off! To cause trouble elsewhere.

bour3 on October 22, 2013 at 10:05 AM

I am not willing to be in the minority…

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Get in the back seat and let the adults drive awhile – you’ve been driving for 50 years and you’ve given us NOTHING but more socialism.

Seriously – just get in the back and we’ll fix this.

HondaV65 on October 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM

leave the Republicans alone.

petunia on October 21, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Once in a while you do get it right. Congratulations!

Schadenfreude on October 22, 2013 at 11:12 AM

The government shut us down via the IRS, we are still here. The establishment RINOs and their willing allies in corporate America will fail. We are the new face of the GOP. Get used to it. We are furious, we are fired up, we are grassroots. What do they have? A bunch of tired old establishment types who go along to get along. Meh vs Fired Up. Yes they have the money, but we have the passion. The poll numbers show this as well. Half the country wants the incumbents ousted. Do these establishment types think we will just hold our noses? I will stay home before ever voting a moderate in again. Ted Cruz is my senator. I’m proud of him and hope we get in dozens more just like him. Imagine the gnashing of teeth among the libs when we actually fight back against their agenda all the time.

neyney on October 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM

I’m a Tea Party Member and Ted Cruz will win the nomination for President in 2016. If I tell you that a hen dips snuff, you can look under one of her wings and find a snuff box.

tmgrant on October 22, 2013 at 11:49 AM

By all means, the business community needs more “moderate Republicans” who support business-friendly initiatives like ObamaCare, tax-and-cap, raising the minimum wage, closing electrical power generation plants, doubling energy costs, tripling the price of gasoline, keeping a strong NLRB, OSHA, EPA, etc.

Those damn Tea Partiers have a lot of nerve trying to reduce government regulations and the costs of complying with them.

/sarc

VastRightWingConspirator on October 21, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Well said. I think there are more “tea party” leaning type folks,
even those who state they don’t belong to a tea party, however, still agree with the tea party principles of adhering to the constitution, smaller government and reduced taxes.

Amjean on October 22, 2013 at 1:16 PM

I will boycott any business where I see the Chamber membership logo, and let them know why.

redware on October 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Are there enough Progressives to patronize those businesses that are members of the CofC to keep them solvent? If you, Chamber Members, set out as a group to cast aside TEA Party pols because you can’t abide by their Small Government message, TEA Party members will find someplace else to shop.

Another Drew on October 22, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Get in the back seat and let the adults drive awhile – you’ve been driving for 50 years and you’ve given us NOTHING but more socialism.

I’m an independent …

I will vote for Obama over Romney.

HondaV65 on January 10, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Seriously – just get in the back and we’ll fix this.

HondaV65 on October 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM

I voted for Obama – ….

HondaV65 on March 11, 2013 at 12:26 PM

rukiddingme on October 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Chamber of Commerce… oh, these guys. In the spotlight today:

Illinois leaders push for immigration reform in Belvidere – October 16, 2013
Embracing undocumented immigrants who are looking to give back to their communities is the first step in enacting immigration reform, state leaders said at a forum Wednesday in Belvidere.

Mass immigration plus forced integration is genocide. The population that happens to will be overwhelmed and blended out.

They don’t even care if it’s legal or not. In the country illegally? Amnesty!

Of course they don’t like the Tea Party. The Tea Party represents exactly the sort of self-respecting white people the Chamber of Commerce is in favor of crushing with mass immigration.

David Blue on October 22, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Dear sweet petunia, precious flower, you are offering a false choice and demanding an answer. Were you not a flower I’d tell you to fuck off xxxxx I meant to say, knock it off with the sophistry. You sound like my little sister.

bour3 on October 22, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Serfs up!

profitsbeard on October 23, 2013 at 3:14 AM

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