USA Today reporter on whether ObamaCare site is fixable: “…That is up for debate.”

posted at 1:21 pm on October 18, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Up for debate,” as in: It’s not looking so good.

MSNBC does provide a pretty apt summary of the many “glitches” still plaguing the online portal, besides the obligatory shots at the ‘tea party’ for ‘distracting everyone’ with the government shutdown; apart from the bureaucrats themselves, there don’t seem to be many progressive holdouts even trying to maintain the illusion that the Obama administration really messed this up bigtime. They steamrolled right on ahead with rolling out a product — through which people need to be able to access health care plans in order to comply with a federal mandate in a matter of a few months — that tech experts are suggesting might need to be completely scrapped, for goodness’ sake. I suppose it was quite the existential dilemma, choosing whether they should call for another unilateral and humiliating delay in opening the law’s doors or just plow right on through and hope they could cobble things together to a workable degree eventually; they obviously chose the latter, and as Scarborough noted, “the Canadians fired a Canadian firm that the United States hired to run the biggest governmental launch in a generation. Huh.”


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Clearly the website was gerrymandered.

rogerb on October 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Uh. Oh. Now USA Today? Sounds like the talking points distributed for today was: “Please float the headline – We just might have to fix this…”

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Clearly the website was gerrymandered.

rogerb on October 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM

By Ted Cruz the Wacko-Bird. John McCain will participate in the committee that will fix it.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Is it fixable?

The cult members are chanting and praying to their leader in hopes that a thunderbolt will fly out his, well you know.

faraway on October 18, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Luke Chung is prolly really just some old, white TEA Party racist nutjob.

mankai on October 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

ObamaCare – Crushed by the sheer weight of the thousands upon thousands of regulations that could not be programmatically coded…

Who’d of thunk it?

Turtle317 on October 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Clearly the website was gerrymandered.

rogerb on October 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Ha ha ha

gwelf on October 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM

CGI… lookout… seems as if you’ve been chosen as the sacrificial lamb here.

Ignore that “no bid contract” behind the curtain!

mankai on October 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM

What was the issue that Ted Cruz was distracting everyone with?..

the_nile on October 18, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Remember all the “Halliburton, no-bid contracts!” stuff?

mankai on October 18, 2013 at 1:30 PM

I still say Obama calls for a delay on Halloween night

cmsinaz on October 18, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Is it fixable?

The cult members are chanting and praying to their leader in hopes that a thunderbolt will fly out his, well you know.

faraway on October 18, 2013 at 1:26 PM

auch!

neuquenguy on October 18, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Remember all the “Halliburton, no-bid contracts!” stuff?

mankai on October 18, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Yes. Those contracts would have gone for bid if any other company had the assets available to compete.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Of course it’s “fixable”. The question is, how long would it take and why wasn’t it done correctly in the first place?

VinceOfDoom on October 18, 2013 at 1:32 PM

The fix is actually saved on some 3 1/2 inch floppies. But HHS computers a:/ take 5 1/4s.

Ted Torgerson on October 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Geez guys Medicare part d and social security had their hiccups at the beginning
-libs

cmsinaz on October 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM

So are we getting a $600,000,000 refund for this website or what?

neuquenguy on October 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Ted ….heh

cmsinaz on October 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM

I’m glad to see these partisan Democrats fearing or even hoping for a 1-year delay to save them, thereby finally coming around to achieving the tea party’s objective. And they can’t even comprehend the shame they’re feeling in suggesting that out loud. They’re in utter shock that it’s happened nearly to the letter as the opponents of this said it would.

Boondoggle. Clusterf*ck. Disaster. Incompetent bureaucratic mess. Overpriced. Piece of garbage. A hindrance and drag on the people. The poster child for a ‘big government solution’ to fix a problem, and the a great argument for keeping the government our of people’s lives.

This was to be Obama’s big moment. This was to be his ultimate victroy when he finally broke the GOP’s back and won the fight for good. This was to be the Democrat Party’s climactic achievement in finally securing themselves a permanent power base and having everyone else beholden to them in some way from here on out.

And now there’s seditious, treasonous, dangerous talk afoot of delaying Obamacare coming from Democrats.

It’s delicious.

This is going to end up being one of the biggest eggs ever laid in this nation’s political history.

Good Lt on October 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM

But HHS computers a:/ take 5 1/4s.

Ted Torgerson on October 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Wow! They finally replaced the cassette tape storage.

WashJeff on October 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

And now there’s seditious, treasonous, dangerous talk afoot of delaying Obamacare coming from Democrats.

It’s delicious.

This is going to end up being one of the biggest eggs ever laid in this nation’s political history.

Good Lt on October 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM

But they meant well…

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Watch for a “more perfect” version of Obamacare to appear when Obama waves his magic wand. When your business model is to give out free stuff using other people’s money you simply never run out of great ideas.

Fred 2 on October 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Uh. Oh. Now USA Today? Sounds like the talking points distributed for today was: “Please float the headline – We just might have to fix this…”

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Yes. The obligatory Friday Bad News Dump. We’re supposed to be busy and distracted upgrading our IOSes.

Tsar of Earth on October 18, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Is it fixable?

The cult members are chanting and praying to their leader in hopes that a thunderbolt will fly out his, well you know.

faraway on October 18, 2013 at 1:26 PM

They need to realize that a sacrifice is needed. Perhaps a ram or calf?

Gatsu on October 18, 2013 at 1:38 PM

The thing can’t be delayed. Policies have been canceled. There is no other alternative to this at this point. Single payor isn’t ready and never will be. We’re just going to have to be strong as Americans. We have to live up to Obama’s expectations of us.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM

They need to realize that a sacrifice is needed. Perhaps a ram or calf?

Gatsu on October 18, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Or a dog?

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 1:41 PM

“If you want your website, you can keep your website.”

kingsjester on October 18, 2013 at 1:41 PM

I cannot fathom why we went with a Canadian firm on a no-bid contract when countless better tech firms such as IBM, HP, Oracle, etc., could have done a better job in six months with one tenth the money. This has to be investigated. I smell graft.

John the Libertarian on October 18, 2013 at 1:44 PM

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 1:41 PM

“It’s what’s for dinner.”

kingsjester on October 18, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I still say Obama calls for a delay on Halloween night

cmsinaz on October 18, 2013 at 1:30 PM

The House should go to court to force the Executive branch to enforce laws that congress passed and the President signed. If the court wants to endorse the President can pick which laws to enforce, next GOP Prez could have a lot of fun.

WashJeff on October 18, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I still say Obama calls for a delay on Halloween night

cmsinaz on October 18, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Wasn’t it said in another thread on here that Obama conceivably had til mid-November to delay this? If so, I predict the 15th. It’s a Friday, which means a slow news day. Plus it’s the day the PS4 comes out, so people will be distracted.

Doughboy on October 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Those contracts would have gone for bid if any other company had the assets available to compete.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 1:32 PM

If I recall, only Schlumberger could compete. And no one ever mentions all the Halliburton employee deaths and hazard pay that was required.

John the Libertarian on October 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Wasn’t it said in another thread on here that Obama conceivably had til mid-November to delay this? If so, I predict the 15th. It’s a Friday, which means a slow news day. Plus it’s the day the PS4 comes out, so people will be distracted.

Doughboy on October 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Odd that people who can’t afford/find insurance in the pre-Obamacare market will be able to pony up the opening day prices on a PS4. PRIORITIES.

weaselyone on October 18, 2013 at 1:49 PM

If someone who can’t get insurance because of this FUBAR website or a delay in obamacare for the same reason; has a medical emergency with huge bills or other negative outcomes, do they have a cause for action against the web site contractor or the government? Or even the individual players like the Sec of Health and Human Services and her staff?

meci on October 18, 2013 at 1:49 PM

But HHS computers a:/ take 5 1/4s.
 
Ted Torgerson on October 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM

 
/
 

More evidence that racism is embedded into the DNA of the nation and was written into our founding documents, even as the law has changed continues to find ways to reconstitute itself as a determinant factor in the organization of wealth and power in this society. It has never known one region or time period, and, by my use of simple math, the permeation of numbers reducing needy (read: black) buyers to 3/5ths of a person even in the very software for our healthcare proves I’m right.
 
- Can anyone guess who?

rogerb on October 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM

MSNBC does provide a pretty apt summary of the many “glitches” still plaguing the online portal, besides the obligatory shots at the ‘tea party’ for ‘distracting everyone’ with the government shutdown;

Somebody is going have to explain this one. If anything, you’d think the administration would be happy with the distraction from the “tea baggers.” It gave them breathing room as they rolled out this hot mess as if it were Mardi Gras, New Years Eve, and your birthday all at the same time. The narrative was supposed to be about all these people finally getting affordable heathcare (Praise Obama). Instead it became an Error 404 armageddon for most and sticker shock for those who managed to get through only to find that their healtcare was not going to cost $2500 a year with their current doctor.

We knew months ago that this system was not on schedule. But instead of rolling back the implementation date they plowed ahead anyway with a system designed to capture all sorts of PII up front before you even get to see your premiums. This system has more problems than just capacity of the servers. All the experts are telling them now that it is more than broken. And yet, only the government can spend over half a billion dollars without a single person being fired or held accountable. Sebelius was even out there crowing about these problems prove that Obamacare is wildly popular.

But, I’m sure that they’ll soon find the fix once they upgrade from Windows ME or something. /

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Website is fixable. Outcome is not. High cost, high deductibles, horrible program.

mrscullen on October 18, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I took a look at the WaPo site and they’re spending most of their time bashing Cruz et al. The kindest articles and columns are along the line of “Can the GOP take back the party?”

All I spot there about the rollout disaster is a cute little numbers column that would lead you to believe things are going fairly well.

I’m wallowing in Schadenfreude and happy to let it all play out for the moment. James Thurber wrote a great short story, “A Couple of Hamburgers,” about a bickering couple on a rainy drive back home.

Along the way she says there’s something wrong with the car and he scoffs. At the very end of the story, she hears the little noise getting louder and louder as he drives on, singing a song to annoy her. The last line is something like, “She sat back, content to wait.”

That’s me for now.

Drained Brain on October 18, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Geez guys Medicare part d and social security had their hiccups at the beginning
-libs

cmsinaz on October 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Well if Medicare and Social Security had hiccups at the beginning then Obamacare is being given the Heimlich Maneuver while the EMTs are calling in the medivac flight.

In other words, sneaking up behind Obamacare and screaming “boo” isn’t going to fix the problems. ;0

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 1:57 PM

rogerb on October 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM

LiberaceSetMeFree?

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Website is fixable. Outcome is not. High cost, high deductibles, horrible program.

mrscullen on October 18, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Two weeks of government shutdown didn’t change that fact.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 1:58 PM

– Can anyone guess who?

rogerb on October 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM

The enlightened professor?

John the Libertarian on October 18, 2013 at 1:59 PM

OT:

From the Drudge

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A federal air marshal has been arrested and accused of taking cell phone photographs underneath women’s skirts as they boarded a plane at Nashville International Airport.

Nashville police say Adam J. Bartsch was on duty on Southwest Airline Flight 3132 on Thursday when a witness noticed he was taking the photos and grabbed his cell phone. Police say the witness notified a flight attendant and Bartsch was taken off the flight and charged with disorderly conduct.

This guy is a complete failure. All he had to do was pull his weapon, shoot the witness and claim the witness had made threatening statements and appeared to be holding some sort of electronic device.

“TSA hails Air Marshall as Hero”

Dufus.

BobMbx on October 18, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Well, it’s the GOP’s fault anyway. MSNBC said so.
http://twitchy.com/2013/10/18/guess-the-cable-network-chyron-announces-gop-flubs-obamacare-launch-pic-video/

vcferlita on October 18, 2013 at 2:06 PM

choosing whether they should call for another unilateral and humiliating delay in opening the law’s doors or just plow right on through

That was never going to be an option with Obama. He would have never lived that down, so he did the only thing he has ever done, destroy things just to get his way.

Johnnyreb on October 18, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Obama and all of his leftist sycophants in media and government own this pile of steaming feces – and I’m certain the true fighters for our side (Cruz, Lee, Paul, etc.) will be making them eat it over and over again.

The tide will shift very quickly. Book it.

Common Sense Floridian on October 18, 2013 at 2:10 PM

But HHS computers a:/ take 5 1/4s.

Ted Torgerson on October 18, 2013 at 1:33 PM

All will be well after the cassette loads.

Sebelius got a great deal on some awesome TRS-80s; only $37M/each.

mankai on October 18, 2013 at 2:18 PM

“It doesn’t do so well telling you about coverage options or premiums and stuff, but it does spit out some awesome biorhythm cards.”

/showing my age

mankai on October 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Of course it’s fixable…just have to figure out which punch cards need to be changed! That’s going to be the hard part…

nextgen_repub on October 18, 2013 at 2:23 PM

PR Campaign Discouraging Enrollment?

Does anyone knwo of an PR campaign aimed at showing young healthy people how/why it makes more sense for them NOT to sign up for this thing? If so, I’d like to donate.

IndyinVirginny on October 18, 2013 at 2:28 PM

From the video:
I had to refresh my cache several times and click on links on different tabs to get through it.

HAHA…what a clusterFark! I spent more time testing a website for a college class than CGI did for the largest federal website ever.

nextgen_repub on October 18, 2013 at 2:33 PM

The Obama administration should have gone with their strength instead – subsidizing solar and alternative energy companies.

RSbrewer on October 18, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Website be damned! I’m sure the actual services provided will be just awesome!

Oxymoron on October 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Website be damned! I’m sure the actual services provided will be just awesome!

Oxymoron on October 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Yep, 56-year-old males have never had such comprehensive coverage for their pregnancies.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Yepper washjeff

Perhaps doughboy

Heh HN

cmsinaz on October 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM

I spent more time testing a website for a college class than CGI did for the largest federal website ever.

nextgen_repub on October 18, 2013 at 2:33 PM

But this is Obama’s world. Everything is graded on a curve. So you spend well over half-a-billion on an Error 404 generator and the media still is gushing about the glitches caused by the overwhelming demand.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM

This system will never work, never.

Mason on October 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Kelly Kennedy looks like woman on the healthcare.gov front page

mankai on October 18, 2013 at 2:47 PM

I’m curious if anybody ever did a follow-up with Chad from Chattanooga to find out if he ever went back in and enrolled in the bronze plan like he said he was going to. If he was able to beat the odds and successfully navigate the system twice.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 2:49 PM

In Oregon they are automatically signing up the poor for ObamaCare:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/white-house-obamacare-great-news-56000-added-medicaid-oregon_763687.html

“Another change likely to boost enrollment: under new rules mandated by the federal health law, savings or property is no longer a bar to membership; application is now based strictly on income for the month in which someone applies.”

None pay thing…but you will!

albill on October 18, 2013 at 2:50 PM

healthcare.gov is racist

t8stlikchkn on October 18, 2013 at 2:54 PM

In Oregon they are automatically signing up the poor for ObamaCare:

albill on October 18, 2013 at 2:50 PM

The problem is that they don’t need poor enrollees. They need stupid but healthy young people to pay for all the parasites.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 2:55 PM

healthcare.gov is racist

t8stlikchkn on October 18, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Yep, the website would have worked perfectly if it didn’t hate having a black in the White House.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 2:57 PM

The problem is that they don’t need poor enrollees. They need stupid but healthy young people to pay for all the parasites.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Don’t worry, even if young people don’t enroll we’ll be covered. Look for taxes to start skyrocketing in the next couple of years.

neuquenguy on October 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM

I may have said this somewhere before, but it speaks volumes to me that WhiteHouse.gov is built with WordPress, and it works.

Truthfully, a $29 per month unlimited account at GoDaddy, WordPress, and a few hours from a competent programmer and you could have something workable for now.

But no, we’re going to pour a few hundred million more dollars into a crappy website built to Netscape 4.0 specs back in the day when CSS was just starting to do a little more than control font colors and HTML5 wasn’t even thought of yet. Take a look at the front-end code and you can see they’re using the Internet Explorer 6 tweak! Seriously?

What a joke. I’ve done better coding than Healthcare.gov and I would consider myself an expert amateur.

JoseQuinones on October 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Why hasn’t anyone looked into potentially disproportionate impact on racial groups of having such a complex, technically difficult to use system? After all, we are told that just getting an id card is an almost insurmountable hurdle to some groups. How about spending 20 hours online flushing caches and using multiscreen/multiwindow data entry?

He asked innocently :-)

DaMav on October 18, 2013 at 3:56 PM

David Gregory taking over for Tim Russert is a shame…he is a loyal Dem through and through. He does his best here to put positive spin on thisdisaster.

bagadeez04 on October 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Obviously decade old computers are racist.

kurtzz3 on October 18, 2013 at 8:52 PM