Obamacare and the betrayal of faith

posted at 7:31 pm on October 18, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

Ezra Klein, Washington Post blogger and prominent Obamacare supporter, discussed a particularly pernicious Obamacare glitch today on MSNBC. If, as we’ve learned, the insurance companies are getting bad information from the exchanges, who’s to say the few people who are able to get through the system to buy the expensive new insurance they’re required by law to buy actually have an insurance policy? What if it didn’t occur to you to spend another hour with the insurance company’s customer service to double-check your purchase after the four tries and 7 hours you spent getting through the federal exchange? What if you then got sick and it turns out Aetna got the wrong info or no info at all about you from the exchange?

EZRA KLEIN: […] So the website is communicating with different parts of the federal government, the IRS, the social security administration. It’s getting all this data about you so it can say what is your subsidy, how much will you ultimately be paying for healthcare insurance. It isn’t clear if all of that data is coming through correctly. Also more worryingly, if anything, that the data then to the insurer, you go and buy a plan from Aetna or Cigna or Blue Cross or whoever, that website needs to communicate that you bought this plan and what you bought correctly with the insurer. We’re hearing widespread reports of that data coming in wrong, garbled, glitchy, people being disenrolled accidentally. If that keeps happening, that is actually the most dangerous of all the glitches. Because it’s one thing if you can’t get in, it’s a little but of a no harm no foul except that you lost some time and are annoyed. But if you sign up for something and then you actually don’t have it when you get sick or you don’t have the right thing when you get sick, that is a huge betrayal of faith.

On the ground, Obamacare’s unintended but utterly predictable consequences are actively hurting people left and right, causing them to lose insurance, forcing them to buy new insurance they can’t afford, and generally breaking promises. This kind of broken promise comes straight from the exchange and can’t be blamed on meanies who own small businesses or meanies who sell insurance.

But let’s talk about the notion of a betrayal of faith. It is the supremely ironic legacy of the President Obama era that faith in government institutions is at all-time lows. He promised to fix the way Washington worked, and he didn’t. He told America that his mere presence at the head of the federal government was reason to believe fervently it could do “big things,” to put faith in the feds to solve big problems. Stimulus, the green non-economy, and attempts at climate change legislation and immigration reform are all expressions of that top-down philosophy, but Obamacare was to be its big moment. We were going to do big things again, and by we I mean the federal government.

Obamacare’s obvious, blundering, incompetent failure to launch, which is already endangering its entire design, is a betrayal of the trust Obama asked us to have in big government. If there is one thing Obama has communicated during his years as president, it’s that the government— his government— should be trusted to make life better for American citizens and anyone who says otherwise is worthy of scorn and suspicion. As he put it in a commencement speech at Ohio State University:

Still, you’ll hear voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s the root of all our problems, even as they do their best to gum up the works; or that tyranny always lurks just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, creative, unique experiment in self-rule is just a sham with which we can’t be trusted.

How could he have blown this so completely?

There are already a chorus of voices attempting to separate this utter failure of liberal ideology from liberal ideology.

In an otherwise great piece by reporter and Obamacare supporter Jeff Young, the problem is the website, and the website is ruining Obamacare. Yes, and in “The Jerk,” the sniper hated the cans.

A broken website imperils the largest expansion of the American safety net since the Great Society.

More than two weeks into the disastrous rollout of HealthCare.gov, the website created by President Barack Obama’s health care reform law still isn’t working right.

But the website was Obamacare. It was the only way the administration planned to sign up the millions of uninsured this law was going to help and they failed in their responsibility to build that tool. That is a failure of the law and the faith that animated it, not just the website.

It’s the procurement process and the private contractors, others say:

At the heart of the federal IT crisis is a complex system of regulations that rewards contractors that are better at bidding on giant federal contracts than at building software. While the political figures who commission or oversee those contractors are ultimately culpable, the work itself is done by the private sector. That’s not only true of civilian agencies, as the world was reminded when a private contractor for the National Security Agency, Edward Snowden, leaked key documents from the government and gave then to the press.

In fact, over the past several decades, more and more core information technology functions have been delivered by private contractors, not in-house staff. While a few government executives look for different approaches, private contracting is now the norm when it comes to how government IT is proposed bought, built, and maintained.

Given how well the Obama campaign used technology to support getting the Democratic nominee for president elected, I’ve seen many people wondering how his administration has so badly botched the technology behind his signature legislative achievement. To understand why this shouldn’t be surprising, you have to know how different the ways campaigns and government agencies can buy and build tech are, as I said on Washington Post TV this past week, apples and oranges.

The short answer is that even presidential campaigns have a great deal of freedom to hire (and fire) who they want and take risks with adopting new technologies, from social media to data mining to mobile applications.

Complex regulations, the flexibility of peanut brittle, and a system that rewards rule-followers and connections, not ability to do good work? Now that the problem has been identified, we learn that it couldn’t be fixed because of fear of transparency and political liability, and that no one will be held accountable for it. That’s not an isolated problem of government function. That’s a distillation of government function, a metaphor for the entire thing, and again, it was faith in this entity that animated Obamacare.

Obamacare’s failure is a reason for skepticism about the federal government’s ability to do stuff well, no matter how hard liberals try to elide it. Up until it utterly failed to launch, you could have blamed that assessment on my ideology and many Obamacare supporters did, but now it’s the truth. It’s a real-life broken promise, and it should make Americans very hesitant to trust government to do “big things” because it just failed to do a very big thing. Now, the project should be judged by the results, not their intentions.

If it doesn’t make Americans skeptical, they’re in danger of trusting promises like Obama’s again. That trust was always misplaced, and I hope we don’t have to learn the painful lesson again.

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Just as an experiment I tried to establish a user/password at healthcare.gov and did that with pretty much no problem but every time (about 4 and then I gave up) that I tried to go any further (like to pretend that I might actually sign up) it took me back to the log in screen. So I successfully logged in about 4 times and got nowhere further. This system must have been written by drunks.

VorDaj on October 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Obamacare makes me ill. Is there coverage for that?

predator on October 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Obamacare is no more a failure than any other feature of this incompetent, megalomaniacal Marxist’s tenure. The people reelected him… By a huge margin.

This is why I have no hope for this country. I have lost all faith that Americans will do the right thing.

SAMinVA on October 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Bravo!

wyntre9 on October 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

If it doesn’t, they’re in danger of trusting promises like Obama’s again. That trust was always misplaced, and I hope we don’t have to learn the painful lesson again.

Yet to learn it once.

Axe on October 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

If it doesn’t, they’re in danger of trusting promises like Obama’s again. That trust was always misplaced, and I hope we don’t have to learn the painful lesson again.

You have to pass the law, etc.

What pains me is being a collaterally damaged taxpayer and citizen by those – they – who never learn.

Drained Brain on October 18, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Obama, the snake oil salesman quack masquerading as a President.

VorDaj on October 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

There are already a chorus of voices attempting to separate this utter failure of liberal ideology from liberal ideology

…it’s ok!…the politburo press will fix that!…just give them time to brainwash the drones!

KOOLAID2 on October 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Doesn’t it occur to anyone that there is something very suspicious about Ezra Klein, MSNBC, and the rest of the liberal media usual suspects coming down on Obamacare, criticizing it, even bashing it? One would expect these supplicants to be on the same page with the likes of Paul Krugman, who has been parroting the “everything will be O.K. in a day or two” line in every other blog post.

Isn’t the timing suspicious, too? They waited until the delay/defund effort failed to begin ramping this up. Why?

Well, if Obamacare really is a Trojan Horse for single-payer, these things begin to make sense.

Mr. Arkadin on October 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

One of the more excellent descriptions of Ezra Klein:

If you attempted to reduce liberal technocracy to its Platonic essence, then transferred that essence into a carbon-based life form, you’d have Ezra Klein.

Robert_Paulson on October 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

He’d better get those computer sites straight because, if anyone’s every been to the Social Security office, doing that will be much worse. Barack Obama is lucky that he has Pravda, Izvestia and a touch of Tass supporting him all the way, if he had Bush’s press, he’d face a daily barrage of questions about how this happened and what his administration is doing to get it straight. I’ll bet that, right now, his administration has no answers and, if he faced that daily barrage, like Bush would have, he would have to tell them they’re working on it but they don’t know when it will be fixed.

bflat879 on October 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Obamacare and the betrayal of faith reason

Fixed it for conservatives …

ShainS on October 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Ezra Klein, Washington Post blogger and prominent Obamacare supporter,…

Obama told me not to listen to bloggers…
H@ll, I shouldn’t even be here…

Electrongod on October 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

If it doesn’t, they’re in danger of trusting promises like Obama’s again. That trust was always misplaced, and I hope we don’t have to learn the painful lesson again.

Lib’s can’t learn this lesson. It contradicts everything they know to be true in the very depths of their souls.

trigon on October 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

“It’s those greedy insurance companies” is coming soon. Get ready for it.

d1carter on October 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM

This is why I have no hope for this country. I have lost all faith that Americans will do the right thing.

SAMinVA on October 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

I agree.

But to be sure, real Americans will continue to do the right thing. Problem is they are in short supply these days, with numbers unable to turn the tide.

fogw on October 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM

I asked the token lib at work if he was going to drop our company insurance and sign up for Ocare. He walked away. I took that as a “no.”

predator on October 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Well, if Obamacare really is a Trojan Horse for single-payer, these things begin to make sense.

Mr. Arkadin on October 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

I could see that BUT are they really instilling a sense of trust? Americans should see this failure and be scared shitless of single payer. But what do I know…they hired the Amateur …twice.

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Isn’t the timing suspicious, too? They waited until the delay/defund effort failed to begin ramping this up. Why?

Well, if Obamacare really is a Trojan Horse for single-payer, these things begin to make sense.

Mr. Arkadin on October 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Especially if there’s also an attempt afoot to blame the Republicans for the failure, or even for the law itself. (I wouldn’t put it past them.)

CurtZHP on October 18, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Still, you’ll hear voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s the root of all our problems, even as they do their best to gum up the works; or that tyranny always lurks just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, creative, unique experiment in self-rule is just a sham with which we can’t be trusted.


Pic of the Day (from yesterday): Barack Obama v The Founding Fathers

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Cruella promised it would be up and running by Oct. 1.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/video-montage-kathleen-sebelius-vows-working-obamacare-website-on-oct.-1/article/2537413

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Americans should see this failure and be scared shitless of single payer. But what do I know…they hired the Amateur …twice.

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Americans who pay attention and have a clue are scared of it. But the low-info morons that helped the ideologues put this marxist in power?

Just put the word “free” in front of anything, and they’ll jump on the bandwagon pronto.

predator on October 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

New Steyn…

A Potemkin Parliament on the Potomac

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 8:10 PM

I’ve seen many people wondering how his administration has so badly botched the technology behind his signature legislative achievement.

Because when you buy stuff for yourself, with your own money (or with contributions from people who can choose not to give it to you), stuff that you really need (like, in order to get elected) then you become a discriminating customer, carefully weighing where your money is going, evaluating the results, eliminating unproductive expenses. In short, the Free Market.

Contrast that with Obamacare, where the government is spending someone else’s money, money from people who have no choice but to give it to you, and you are spending it to buy something for someone else, a product you will never use yourself and whose usefulness is of little concern to you. Of course you’re going to get crappy results and a lot of wasted money out of such a system. That’s always the result of socialism.

The reason why Obama’s campaign got different results than Obamacare did when they bought technology is obvious.

Socratease on October 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM

So, let’s pretend for a minute that the website was just ducky and everyone could sign up………would the premium prices be getting any attention? And the deductibles, will the people figure that out or can they only see the three “free’ visits to the doctor a year?

Cindy Munford on October 18, 2013 at 8:25 PM

I see them shutting it down completely to repair it in a year or so but still keep the penalty going for not having insurance.They can’t let this crisis go to waste.

docflash on October 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM

We’ll never know how they could have bungled this up so badly because they only answer the questions they want to answer, they’ll keep insisting it’s just a minor glitch and that everything will be ok in a month or so, and even if it isn’t, no one is at fault and no one will be held accountable and that the money was well spent. Liars.

scalleywag on October 18, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Hey, Chief Roberts, how’s all this working out for you now? How are you going to uphold a tax on refusing to buy a product when there’s no way to buy it or the sellers of the product are unable to deliver it?

That’s going to be another hoop the Court will soon have to jump through, this an impossible one, Your Honor.

TXUS on October 18, 2013 at 8:35 PM

If the middle of the country does not learn from this, there is no hope of ever convincing them. (The left will never learn, they have forgotten how to think at all and wait to be told what to think.)

After 5 years of promises, there are more poor, not less, more unemployed, and worse economy, little hope of a recovery of any magnitude… and they still believe. They still believed.

Please let this be the log that breaks the camel’s back. America wake up now please, and remember who you are.

petunia on October 18, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Fvck the

Idiot

And

Statist

Community

Organizer

TXUS on October 18, 2013 at 8:41 PM

A stellar post mary katherine! We are to judge a man by his fruit and Mr Obamas fruit is Obamacare.

ted c on October 18, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Especially if there’s also an attempt afoot to blame the Republicans for the failure, or even for the law itself. (I wouldn’t put it past them.)

CurtZHP on October 18, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Exactly. The Democrats will just point to Medicare, which has a very high approval rating and ask “how about this, for everyone?”.

Mr. Arkadin on October 18, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Mr. Arkadin on October 18, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Interesting you should mention Medicare.

During the health care reform debates in 2009, Pelosi suggested that they just make the law… MEDICARE FOR EVERYONE.

thatsafactjack on October 18, 2013 at 9:13 PM

A broken website imperils the largest expansion of the American safety net since the Great Society.

Obamacare is not a “safety net”. A ‘safety net’ would be for the benefit of unfortunate citizens that have no other recourse for some reason. Medicaid is a ‘safety net’.

Obamacare is not a ‘safety net’ because it changes the health insurance of every single living American, young and old, rich and poor, whether they want it or not.

slickwillie2001 on October 18, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Ok, Obama, just fine us forever. The government needs the money for EVERTHING else. Just the thought of how much money has been wasted on this insatiable appetite for more control of the American people is beyond pathetic .

mobydutch on October 18, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Barack Obama is lucky that he has Pravda, Izvestia and a touch of Tass supporting him all the way, if he had Bush’s press, he’d face a daily barrage of questions about how this happened and what his administration is doing to get it straight. I’ll bet that, right now, his administration has no answers and, if he faced that daily barrage, like Bush would have, he would have to tell them they’re working on it but they don’t know when it will be fixed.

bflat879 on October 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

You left out a few-Radio Moscow, Radio Peking, Radio Pyongyang, Radio Habana Cuba, Radio Tirana…remember, millions of Low-IQ Democrats actually do still get news from the radio, whether AM, FM, or satellite.

As for Bush, a sharp-eyed Free Republic poster found this fascinating post from a blog. Discuss!

If ObamaCare were BushCare…

The easiest way to crush a Liberal in an argument about Obama is to ask, “What would you say if Bush had done it?”

In the case of ObamaCare, the lesson might be the most poignant.

I found these questions on a discussion board, and decided this time, it was worth the comparison: if ObamaCare were BushCare what would the repercussions and responses be?

So ask yourself these questions, and then question if ObamaCare would be deader than disco.

Imagine…

1. If Republican George Bush made it mandatory that every American buy health insurance.

2. If Bush said if you don’t buy it, you will be fined.

3. If Bush said he would employ the IRS to collect the fine from you for non-conformance.

4. If Bush took the “public option” out of the bill, in order to please the private health insurance companies.

5. If Bush created a health care plan where the average cost was $328 dollars a month.

6. If Bush totally ignored all of the polls that said most Americans were against the health care bill.

7. If during the first 2 weeks of Bush’s health care plan rollout, the website crashed and hardly anybody could sign up.

8. If Bush gave Corporate America a one-year delay joining, but refused to do the same for poor people.

If George Bush did these things, he’d be the most unpopular president in history, especially among blacks.

Read some of the comments, they’re priceless.

Del Dolemonte on October 18, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Obama knows this beast is an abject failure and his solution is to cover up the problems and coerce the media into not talking about it. Would you ever, in your wildest dreams thought this could happen in America? I think this once great Republic just may be lost. A great nation plunging to the depths of failure and despair.

rplat on October 18, 2013 at 9:51 PM

I say it’s time for real civil disobedience. Everyone should amend their W-2′s to reflect more dependents and stop making estimated payments until this atrocity of the law is abolished. The only way to kill the beast is to starve it.

Mr. Curly on October 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

All those liberal asshol… shouldn’t wonder at the failure. Barack Obama has been a FAILURE all his life. The only thing he’s good at is running for office.

Expecting him to actually ACCOMPLISH anything is another matter.

Name ONE accomplishment:
1) As a state senator
2) As a US Senator
3) As President (and no, Pelosi and Reid passed ObamaCare)

GarandFan on October 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Obamacare is collapsing under the weight of it’s own:

Arrogance
Incompetence
Deceit

dddave on October 18, 2013 at 10:20 PM

LOL!

The “Big Government” Democrat types have proven that
they could not even run the online sales at a local
bodega run by illegal alien.

All they they need is another TRILLION in taxes.
Yeah!

shorebird on October 18, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Juan Williams on Bret Bair tonight said the website was bad because Republicans wouldn’t pony up enough money. Luckily, Bret, Charles K, and another guy all jumped down his throat. Of course, that was racist.

williampeck1958 on October 18, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Just as an experiment I tried to establish a user/password at healthcare.gov and did that with pretty much no problem but every time (about 4 and then I gave up) that I tried to go any further (like to pretend that I might actually sign up) it took me back to the log in screen. So I successfully logged in about 4 times and got nowhere further. This system must have been written by drunks.

VorDaj on October 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Well, maybe drunks were involved… But kicking you back to the login screen isn’t a bug in this case. It’s being done on purpose. It’s called “throttling”. They can only handle so much traffic at this point, so if your login is “over the limit”, then you are kicked back out.

climbnjump on October 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

I say it’s time for real civil disobedience. Everyone should amend their W-2′s to reflect more dependents and stop making estimated payments until this atrocity of the law is abolished. The only way to kill the beast is to starve it.

Mr. Curly on October 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

I second the motion.

Cleombrotus on October 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

I know, I know, I know! We can fix this one if we simply deem everyone covered.

bigbeachbird on October 18, 2013 at 10:54 PM

One of the more excellent descriptions of Ezra Klein:

If you attempted to reduce liberal technocracy to its Platonic essence, then transferred that essence into a carbon-based life form, you’d have Ezra Klein.

Robert_Paulson on October 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Dayam, that’s good. Gonna have to keep Mr. Senik’s column in my Favorites.

Cleombrotus on October 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM

What pains me is being a collaterally damaged taxpayer and citizen by those – they – who never learn.

Drained Brain on October 18, 2013 at 7:53 PM

I agree. And that is the long-standing consequence of the key feature of any socialistic scheme, which is the forced participation of productive, worthwhile people who otherwise know better and would opt out. Imagine socialism if it only involved the kind of people who believe that it can succeed. It would never get off the ground since those people are utterly incompetent, so they point guns at functional people and say “make it work somehow.” (Not unlike when Barry said of the BP oil rig spill in the Gulf: “Just plug the damn hole!”)

Right now, our culture is geared toward making people believe that socialism is the smart person’s ideology. After all, it’s the ideology foisted on impressionable kids on college campuses by people who are addressed as “doctor,” which is the ultimate smart person title. A cultural shift that can plausibly be made in the short term is to get people to recognize that buying into socialism the mark of suckers and rubes. That would break the dam. And as Mary Katharine makes clear in this post, we have a chance to make arguments to this effect based on the fact of this ugly Obamacare failure, which prevents those arguments from being dismissed as mere ideology.

86 on October 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM

from the post;

More than two weeks into the disastrous rollout of HealthCare.gov, the website created by President Barack Obama’s health care reform law still isn’t working right.

But the website was Obamacare. It was the only way the administration planned to sign up the millions of uninsured this law was going to help

I thought the ACA was supposed to be to help the poor who couldn’t afford health ins. How can the poor enroll via the internet? Do the poor have computers and internet? If yes then how? What definition of ‘poor’ is the federal government using? To me this is absurd expecting the poor to have access to the internet.
I will check back in a few hours to see if anyone has the answers to my Q’s/

free on October 18, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Given how well the Obama campaign used technology to support getting the Democratic nominee for president elected, I’ve seen many people wondering how his administration has so badly botched the technology behind his signature legislative achievement.

Milton Friedman could explain it to you. When they were developing technology for their campaigns they were spending THEIR money for THEIR needs.

As Friedman put it so succinctly:

There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch! Finally, I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get. And that’s government.

The basic fact is that the more the national economy is controlled, managed, and spent by the government, the more our resources are wasted and misdirected. It is not because people in government are evil, stupid, or uncaring; it’s that in the end, they are not adversely affected by failure as it would be the case if it was their own money that was being spent.

Do you think Seibelius and any of those clowns at HHS would still have a job if they had screwed Obama’s campaign in the way they have screwed up the ACA? They would have been fired months if not years ago.

Obama can tolerate people who waste the taxpayer’s money, but they damn well better not waste his!!!

PackerBronco on October 18, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Socratease on October 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Oh, well done. I see beat me to posting the most salient point and one that is so simple and obvious the intelligentsia will ignore because they fear its implications for big government.

PackerBronco on October 18, 2013 at 11:20 PM

I guess the insurers know enough to keep their mouth shuts. No one has been able to report on the really big guys who elected to withdraw from the individual market is so many states. They were dropping out as recently as mid-September. They had to know what an abomination the exchanges were and how badly the Obama markets would destroy their livelihoods. I sure would love to see the analytical reports their senior executives received and glimpse their strategic plans. How do they see the future?

obladioblada on October 18, 2013 at 11:27 PM

This is why I have no hope for this country. I have lost all faith that Americans will do the right thing.

SAMinVA on October 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

I do have faith. This Obamacare fiasco is getting fun to watch. The LIV are about to get a big lesson about being LIV. After they wake up from their stupidity, and come to the realization they caused their own pain listening to that Moron, they will learn really fast. I wouldn’t be surprised they all become conservative in the next decade trying to figure out how they are going to pay the bill that Obama left them. Obama’s presidential legacy will be laughingstock and replacing Carter’s legacy as America’s worst president.

TulsAmerican on October 18, 2013 at 11:30 PM

I thought the ACA was supposed to be to help the poor who couldn’t afford health ins. How can the poor enroll via the internet? Do the poor have computers and internet? If yes then how? What definition of ‘poor’ is the federal government using? To me this is absurd expecting the poor to have access to the internet.
I will check back in a few hours to see if anyone has the answers to my Q’s/

free on October 18, 2013 at 11:16 PM

‘The poor’ had Medicaid before Obamacare, and they have Medicaid with Obamacare. Nothing changes for them except a slight expansion in eligibility for Medicaid.

slickwillie2001 on October 18, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Hope and Change quantified…

In August 2008, prior to the Presidential election, Rasmussen conducted a poll that asked respondents – were America’s best days still ahead, or have they come and gone.

45% of those who responded, said that America’s best days were still to come.

37% of those who responded, said that America’s best days had come and gone.

Today, Rasmussen released a current poll that asked the exact same question…

In today’s poll, only 31% of those who responded said that America’s best days were still to come. (about 1/3 fewer than in 2008)

52% of those who responded, about 40% more than in 2008, said that America’s best days had come and gone.

That’s Hope and Change quantified, or as Powerline blog terms it, Barack Obama’s Era of Hopelessness.

Athos on October 19, 2013 at 12:33 AM

MK, you absolutely ROCK!

HiJack on October 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM

But here’s the problem: libturds will NEVER admit defeat, and they will follow Obama, or Hillary, or even Biden if that is who has been selected for them. Period.

HiJack on October 19, 2013 at 12:38 AM

I say it’s time for real civil disobedience. Everyone should amend their W-2′s to reflect more dependents and stop making estimated payments until this atrocity of the law is abolished. The only way to kill the beast is to starve it.

Mr. Curly on October 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

That and don’t buy any insurance through this debacle. Pay the fine (TAX) and you end up starving the beast. Best way to defeat it. And if arrange your withholding so that you have to pay at the end of the year the IRS can’t collect the fine/TAX.

HiJack on October 19, 2013 at 12:43 AM

The people reelected him… By a huge margin.

This is why I have no hope for this country. I have lost all faith that Americans will do the right thing.

SAMinVA on October 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

What people? A majority of his voters are parasites living directly or indirectly on the producers expense… Are parasites “people”?….

mnjg on October 19, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Isn’t the timing suspicious, too? They waited until the delay/defund effort failed to begin ramping this up. Why?Isn’t the timing suspicious, too? They waited until the delay/defund effort failed to begin ramping this up. Why?

Well, if Obamacare really is a Trojan Horse for single-payer, these things begin to make sense.

Mr. Arkadin on October 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Yes, or it could be as simple as the demorats didn’t want it to look like they teamed up with those “evil” Tea Partiers. What would their low-information voters think?!!

Sterling Holobyte on October 19, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Barack Obama is lucky that he has Pravda, Izvestia and a touch of Tass supporting him all the way

One positive aspect of this debacle is the fact that any American with an IQ greater than that of a radish will realize that the establishment press is, collectively, a massive propaganda machine.

We conservatives have been sending out warnings about Obamacare since the beginning, while the establishment press has been trying to convince the American people that Obamacare was the greatest thing in the history of the universe. The fact that Obamacare is turning into a clusterfark of galactic proportions demonstrates who has really been telling the truth all along.

SubmarineDoc on October 19, 2013 at 1:01 AM

If it doesn’t make Americans skeptical, they’re in danger of trusting promises like Obama’s again. That trust was always misplaced, and I hope we don’t have to learn the painful lesson again.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

Rudyard Kipling — The Gods of the Copybook Headings

People do not change… and when they do change it is so big of an exception that it is something to be celebrated simply due to it’s rarity.

If you ever read the parable of the Prodigal son… that’s the reason why the father was so joyful when his rebellious son returned home: for every prodigal son returning home destitute and penniless there are a hundred (if not a thousand) truly lost souls who couldn’t muster the courage or stomach the humility required to return home in rags.

Though the father was now writing off the losses his son had incurred… he at least now had his son back. How many other fathers could say the same?

The faithful son who had diligently tended to his father’s fields and flocks had some right to complain about the hullabaloo that was raised, but he should be grateful that he had the common sense to stick to his father’s advice: he still had his inheritance… and had he made the same mistakes… would he have come home in sackcloth and ashes? How would he have responded to the despair and hopelessness of his brother’s situation?

Chaz706 on October 19, 2013 at 1:19 AM

We conservatives have been sending out warnings about Obamacare since the beginning, while the establishment press has been trying to convince the American people that Obamacare was the greatest thing in the history of the universe. The fact that Obamacare is turning into a clusterfark of galactic proportions demonstrates who has really been telling the truth all along.

SubmarineDoc on October 19, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Will we suffer the same (or a similar) fate as Socrates did when he criticized the failure of Athens in it’s war against Sparta? Will we suffer the grim demise of Cassandra of Troy?

Will my ability to stay solvent and/or alive outlast the public’s ability to remain irrational?

Chaz706 on October 19, 2013 at 1:37 AM

Ezra Klein is nothing more than a pig at the trough. He loved the IRS investigating conservatives. Remember that. He is a a hack and and abetter.

pat on October 19, 2013 at 2:22 AM

It’s Bush’s fault. That guy is some kinda evil, I’m tellin’ ya.

Quartermaster on October 19, 2013 at 6:04 AM

Today, I got the cancellation notice for the high deductible policy for which I’ve paid my premiums dutifully for years. “If you like your plan you can keep your plan” breach of faith. Wonder if, come January 1st, when my plan disappears, I’ll join the ranks of the uninsured… since there doesn’t appear to be any way to sign up for the sack of crap they’re supposed to be forcing down my throat in its place.

Arnold Yabenson on October 19, 2013 at 6:07 AM

Now, the project should be judged by the results, not their intentions.

All that matters are good intentions.

There Goes the Neighborhood on October 19, 2013 at 6:12 AM

He’d better get those computer sites straight because, if anyone’s every been to the Social Security office, doing that will be much worse. Barack Obama is lucky that he has Pravda, Izvestia and a touch of Tass supporting him all the way, if he had Bush’s press, he’d face a daily barrage of questions about how this happened and what his administration is doing to get it straight. I’ll bet that, right now, his administration has no answers and, if he faced that daily barrage, like Bush would have, he would have to tell them they’re working on it but they don’t know when it will be fixed.

bflat879 on October 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

What a difference a (D) makes….

There Goes the Neighborhood on October 19, 2013 at 6:13 AM

“You know, in certain older civilized cultures, when men failed as entirely as you have, they would throw themselves on their swords. “

Arssanguinus on October 19, 2013 at 6:15 AM

Liberals are inconsolable that the shutdown/debt ceiling battle is over. That’s for starters.

And that sound we’re hearing is twofold: the loud, repeated booms is liberalism shooting itself in the foot every time someone gets dumped off the exchanges. Especially young Obama voters (the few who are even trying, that is).

The screeching and crashing is Hillary throwing plates and glass around. Repeatedly. Wildly.

Grace_is_sufficient on October 19, 2013 at 6:20 AM

Mark Levin played an old recording of Obama’s public address. Barry said his personal salvation was impossible without our nation’s communal transformation.

Betrayal of faith? The public can not play coy that they weren’t warned.

“Promise them anything. Just Get Their Votes!” Obamalite.

Faith without works is dead. Barry’s opened the gates for Pelosi/Reid/Lobbyists to build Obamacare. American voters 2010 denounce the construct. And predictably, the Republican Leadership with SENIORITY attempt the political assassination of any constitutional conservatives standing in the way of bipartisan “shared values” with Pelosi.

Most Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
Walsh

But at least we all have a moment of clarity. The GOP is not, in any meaningful sense, a conservative, first-principles, Constitutionalist party — and unless it’s subsumed by the Tea Party, it never will be. Rather, it’s content to be the lesser half of the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party as long as it can collect some of the pork scraps from underneath the table of the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Government. No wonder they keep losing — they like it.

Betrayal of faith? Considerable. National Republican cloak and dagger sabotage of elections with “winnable, electable” bipartisan-fusion candidates/agenda.

“The only way to dismantle ObamaCare is to win elections.” Ed M

Not with more of the status quo.

maverick muse on October 19, 2013 at 7:07 AM

Our demands for validation will be muffled by the padded walls of the re-education camps.

mjbrooks3 on October 19, 2013 at 9:00 AM

If Medicare is so great why do you need a supplement in order to have the doctor give you an appointment? We have to pay premiums on two insurance policies. A govt one that is forced on you at age 65, is full of fraud and denied coverage and a private one to guarantee our being seen. How is this great?

Kissmygrits on October 19, 2013 at 9:45 AM

MKH obviously has it all wrong. I heard Juan Williams last night on Bret Baier’s show provide the new administration talking point – the website problems were caused by Republicans refusing to give Sebelius as much money as she had asked for.the website problems have nothing to do with the structure and ideas of Obamacare, so that once the website is fixed everything will work wonderfully.

Juan has again proved that the willingness to tell any lie in support of Obama, Obamacare, and the expansion of government is alive and well in the media. Even from a paid Fox contributor.

pilsener on October 19, 2013 at 10:16 AM

This system must have been written by drunks.

VorDaj on October 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

The guys from CGI Federal came to my former employer’s user conference and they were knocking them back in the bar pretty good in the evenings.

Kafir on October 19, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Blame the Republicans!!

John the Libertarian on October 19, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Hey, the stupid bastards voted for him twice. Fooled again?

Mason on October 19, 2013 at 12:18 PM

This is a great post, MKH.

John the Libertarian on October 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM

You could write a million pieces like this and nothing will change. Americans worship their messiah and will stand by him regardless of how bad things are.

BillCarson on October 19, 2013 at 12:33 PM

The LIV are about to get a big lesson about being LIV. After they wake up from their stupidity, and come to the realization they caused their own pain listening to that Moron, they will learn really fast.

TulsAmerican on October 18, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Sadly, no.

Most LIV are incapable of being anything other than LIV. Changing would require that they be able to admit they were wrong and were/are somehow responsible for their own plight. For the LIV, they are always a victim and their problems are always the fault of someone other than them. Obama knows that and very effectively plays their tune.

climbnjump on October 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GCr1eTbxbw
…the calliope crashed to the ground.

Count to 10 on October 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Complex regulations, the flexibility of peanut brittle, and a system that rewards rule-followers and connections, not ability to do good work? Now that the problem has been identified, we learn that it couldn’t be fixed because of fear of transparency and political liability, and that no one will be held accountable for it. That’s not an isolated problem of government function. That’s a distillation of government function, a metaphor for the entire thing, and again, it was faith in this entity that animated Obamacar

Brilliant. They call it “brittle” for a reason.
This post is the best summary of the Obamacare Debacle so far.

AesopFan on October 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM

‘The poor’ had Medicaid before Obamacare, and they have Medicaid with Obamacare. Nothing changes for them except a slight expansion in eligibility for Medicaid.

slickwillie2001 on October 18, 2013 at 11:45 PM

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If it wasn’t to help the poor who couldn’t afford insurance, then who was/is it for?

free on October 20, 2013 at 3:55 PM