Cruz: I didn’t come to the Senate to get 99 new friends

posted at 10:01 am on October 18, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

An old adage (misattributed to Harry Truman by Maureen Dowd) advises newcomers to Washington that if they want to make a friend, they should buy a dog.  Ted Cruz echoes that advice in a new interview with ABC News, in which he says that his ambitions in Washington didn’t involve becoming a beloved member of the clubbiest club in the world:

“There’s an old saying that, ‘Politics, it ain’t beanbag.’ And, you know, I’m not serving in office because I desperately needed 99 new friends in the U.S. Senate,” Cruz told ABC News’ Jon Karl in his first on-camera interview after the shutdown came to an end Wednesday night. …

And he made it clear that he thinks his Republican colleagues in the Senate are responsible for sabotaging his effort to tie funding for the government to an effort to defund or delay the health care law.

“I will say that the reason this deal, the lousy deal was reached last night, is because, unfortunately, Senate Republicans made the choice not to support House Republicans,” Cruz told ABC News. “I wish Senate Republicans had united, I tried to do everything I could to urge Senate Republicans to come together and stand with House Republicans.”

Cruz laid the blame on Senate Republicans attacking House Republicans during the shutdown:

“I think it was unfortunate that you saw multiple members of the Senate Republicans going on television attacking House conservatives, attacking the effort to defund Obamacare, saying, ‘It cannot win, It’s a fools error and we will lose, this must fail,’” Cruz said.

“That is a recipe for losing the fight, and it’s a shame.”

Well, the attacks went both ways, and that started before the shutdown. When Cruz and Mike Lee pushed hard for the defunding strategy and the shutdown tactics, their allies attacked Republicans who opposed those strategic choices as “voting for ObamaCare,” a charge that FreedomWorks continued this week. At the same time, Peter King and John McCain rushed to television to call conservatives crazy, stupid, or both. Both sides seemed intent on ignoring the fact that opposition to ObamaCare is one of the few issues that unites the GOP, and has for four years, and that opposition to strategy is not the same thing as opposition to end goals.

The only way to dismantle ObamaCare is to win elections.  Democrats won’t just fold on ObamaCare because they don’t have to do so as long as they control the Senate and the White House; this is a lifetime achievement for them.  That means that Republicans and conservatives have to stop attacking each other’s integrity over choices in tactics, and focus on winning elections that replace Democratic incumbents in the Senate with solid Republican candidates, and building the argument to eliminate ObamaCare altogether after the 2016 elections.  And that means that conservatives and moderates within the party need to aim their rhetorical guns outward rather than inward, and activists need to focus on Democratic Senate seats rather than embark on purity campaigns within the GOP caucus.

What we have now is a recipe for losing the long-term fight, and it’s going to be a lot worse than a “shame” if that happens.

Update: Moe Lane creates a very handy flow chart on this topic.


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Johnny Mac will not be happy about this.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:06 AM

I can’t find anything to dislike about Ted.
Keep shining the light, senator.

pambi on October 18, 2013 at 10:10 AM

The Senate is a jealous place, not a clubby place.

Fleuries on October 18, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Good for him.

Keep fighting, Cruz.

AZCoyote on October 18, 2013 at 10:10 AM

And he made it clear that he thinks his Republican colleagues in the Senate are responsible for sabotaging his effort to tie funding for the government to an effort to defund or delay the health care law.

Nope, you did that yourself Cruz. You never had a chance in hell of accomplishing that. But by golly you were going to take the whole GOP down with you just so you could tilt at that windmill.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM

The only way to dismantle ObamaCare is to win elections. Democrats won’t just fold on ObamaCare because they don’t have to do so as long as they control the Senate and the White House; this is a lifetime achievement for them.

I agree, but I reject this notion that it had to be all or nothing in the shutdown showdown. The GOP could’ve gotten some concessions out of the Dems on Obamacare if they’d been willing to fight. How in the hell can you not at least force their hand on the Vitter amendment and individual mandate delay? If Obama and Reid block those, fine. Then the strategery for the GOP could’ve been to go before the cameras and on every radio show in the country and make it clear to the voters that the Democrat Party put its own selfish needs and the needs of their business cronies over those of the American people.

Doughboy on October 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Both sides seemed intent on ignoring the fact that opposition to ObamaCare is one of the few issues that unites the GOP, and has for four years, and that opposition to strategy is not the same thing as opposition to end goals.

You sure about that? I sure as hell ain’t.

M240H on October 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM

No, you don’t need 99 friends. Just 51. 66 if you want to be able to overturn a presidential veto.

Math is not Ted’s friend. That much is certain.

Dukeboy01 on October 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Well, how about getting 2 or 3? ‘Cause that’s what it looks like right about now.

platypus on October 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM

That means that Republicans and conservatives have to stop attacking each other’s integrity over choices in tactics,

since almost every republican in congress has gone thru an election since 0bamacare was enacted and since everyone of those campaigned on ending 0bamacare voting w/ ted cruz wouldnt have hurt their standing back home. but by some saying they were voting for cloture on a bill “that defunds 0bamacare” knowing that would be stripped out it muddies the waters for alot of people. plenty of what y’all like to call “LIV’s” arent sure what vote was the one that wouldve defunded 0bamacare. and guys like ron johnson who whine that 0bama will never sign legislation defunding his signature accomplishment and that he has a strategy that he cant reveal but never explains how it will get around that pesky detail of 0bama’s signature (interview w/ mark levin last week) hurt the cause tremendously.

so to try and say both sides are equally at fault is mealy-mouthed pandering. it was a chance to take a stand, go down swinging but show demoralized voter that you will fight. the squishes blew it and getting any kind of turn out the next cycle or two will be difficult.

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Nope, you did that yourself Cruz. You never had a chance in hell of accomplishing that. But by golly you were going to take the whole GOP down with you just so you could tilt at that windmill.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Cruz’s political future is more important than the Republican Party. Eyes roll. Again, how is he not the Tea Party version of Barack Obama?

Illinidiva on October 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Cruz should take it up a notch by wearing a Redskins jersey.

mjbrooks3 on October 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Nope, you did that yourself Cruz. You never had a chance in hell of accomplishing that. But by golly you were going to take the whole GOP down with you just so you could tilt at that windmill.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM

us Texans understand that sometimes you have to lose a battle, even in an overwhelming fashion (the Alamo) to win the war.

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Cruz’s political future is more important than the Republican Party. Eyes roll. Again, how is he not the Tea Party version of Barack Obama?

Illinidiva on October 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM

And Cruz can actually form coherent thoughts and sentences, unlike Obama.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Cruz should take it up a notch by wearing a Redskins jersey.

mjbrooks3 on October 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM

you need to STFU, we’ll recall any Texas senator that wears that kinda garbage.

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM

so to try and say both sides are equally at fault is mealy-mouthed pandering.

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Otherwise known as 21st century MainStreamMedia.

platypus on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

The GOP could’ve gotten some concessions out of the Dems on Obamacare if they’d been willing to fight. How in the hell can you not at least force their hand on the Vitter amendment and individual mandate delay?

Doughboy

If they had started and kept with that, they may of had a chance. But when you start with defund, then go to delay of the whole thing, and Cruz keeps talking defund, thats all anyone hears and that became their stand.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Cruz’s political future is more important than the Republican Party. Eyes roll. Again, how is he not the Tea Party version of Barack Obama?

Illinidiva on October 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I’ll bet Cruz can show us his grades and scholarship records also.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Nothing like a Cruz post to attract some of the squishies at Hot Air.

22044 on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

The only way to dismantle ObamaCare is to win elections.

We need to do much more than that. One thing we have to do is discredit it as much as possible. This fight, coupled with the disastrous launch of obamacare went a long way doing that. In that sense, it was great timing.

neuquenguy on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

A number of pundits and GOP “big dogs” have been complaining about the GOP focus on ObeyMeCare and how it was a big loss for the GOP. I do not think this will be true.

See, 80% of actual voters do not pay much attention to the news, and they don’t go to sites like this (on the right) or sites like DailyKos (on the left). So what will those voters remember? Just this one point: the Republicans made a big fuss about ObeyMeCare and are against it.

Now what will happen? The rollout of ObeyMeCare is and will continue to be a huge failure. Very few will sign up. Going into next year it will be worse and worse. Due to lack of sign ups, it will be a financial (as well as a tech) failure. Plus most people will be hit by higher deductibles and premiums. THAT they will notices. And what will they remember? The Republicans have been the critics and tried to stop it.

Come elections next year this will all be solid gold for the Republican candidates. And the Republicans that voted to pass it will be primaried. Many will lose to Tea Party candidates who will then win the general elections.

All in all, I believe this will end up being a big win for us.

SunSword on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

The only way to dismantle ObamaCare is to win elections. Democrats won’t just fold on ObamaCare because they don’t have to do so as long as they control the Senate and the White House; this is a lifetime achievement for them.

Wrong , Demonrats folded on the Syrian war.

the_nile on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

It’s just business baby’s!

Bmore on October 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM

you need to STFU, we’ll recall any Texas senator that wears that kinda garbage.

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Point taken, I apologize…

Go Bills!

mjbrooks3 on October 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Go Bills!

mjbrooks3 on October 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM

*sigh* i gotta find a new website,

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Cruz is one of those rare politicians who makes promises and actually keeps them. He is a Tea part. or Reagan, Conservative. That makes him dangerous to Liberals, Moderates, and anybody who loves the Washingtonian Status Quo.

Like the Gipper and the Arctic Fox before him, nobody loves him…but the people.

kingsjester on October 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM

I don’t understand all the Cruz hate. Are you not suppose to stand on principals? Playing stupid political games gave up Obamacare, the debt, and a huge government.

If he is the only one fighting this trend why is he the issue?

Oil Can on October 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

The only way to dismantle ObamaCare is to win elections.

… and that depends on who is winning the elections.

mjbrooks3 on October 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

you need to STFU, we’ll recall any Texas senator that wears that kinda garbage.

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Lolz! You won’t do shit. Except blather on endlessly.

Bmore on October 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Nothing like a Cruz post to attract some of the squishies at Hot Air.

22044 on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Deja vu…all over again.

kingsjester on October 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

us Texans understand that sometimes you have to lose a battle, even in an overwhelming fashion (the Alamo) to win the war.

chasdal

If you want in historical terms. The defund battle was Cruz’s Dieppe.
If you would like a literary analogy, it was the Charge of the Light Brigade.
So Cruz’s attack did well for him, and badly for the GOP. So Cruz doesn’t lose his seat, but other republicans do to democrats. How is that going to help get rid of Obamacare again?

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM

William Wilberforce, influenced by John Newton.

Wilberforce was converted, then wanted to become a man of the cloth. But he was counseled to “remain in the position to which God has called him.” And so he stayed.

——–
“I like this Cruz guy. At least he could have three friends in the Senate”.
- Joe Miller/Alaska.

williampeck1958 on October 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM

*sigh* i gotta find a new website,

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM

I’m a lifelong Dallas fan. But I’ve got to say, all I find lately in Dallas is heartache.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM

you need to STFU, we’ll recall any Texas senator that wears that kinda garbage.

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM

I guess if Cruz is a Cowboy’s or Texan’s fan I can find it in my heart to forgive him. It will be hard, but we must rise above our differences.

NotCoach on October 18, 2013 at 10:22 AM

*sigh* i gotta find a new website,

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Go Big East American Athletic Conference?

mjbrooks3 on October 18, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Nope, you did that yourself Cruz. You never had a chance in hell of accomplishing that. But by golly you were going to take the whole GOP down with you just so you could tilt at that windmill.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Ah yes another RINO koolaid drinker. Or worse a lefty troll.

bgibbs1000 on October 18, 2013 at 10:22 AM

us Texans understand that sometimes you have to lose a battle, even in an overwhelming fashion (the Alamo) to win the war.

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM

And to see who you can count on when you really need them.

the_nile on October 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Ed, you’ve made clear you thought the defund strategy was the wrong way to go, but as I’ve said in other threads on this subject, there are a few Senators and many Congressman who ran and got elected specifically on that platform. Except for Blue State GOPers who are representing the wishes of their home districts, I question the motives and integrity of GOPers who think delay is a good strategy, or that “it’s the law” is a good strategy. This atrocity is dividing and destroying this country, and anything other than a full assault to defund it is a half-measure – defund it or implement it as-written without delay before the midterm elections are the only two rational choices for Conservatives.

King B on October 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM

So Cruz doesn’t lose his seat, but other republicans do to democrats.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM

And who might that be?

NotCoach on October 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Well Ed if by 15 Dec they have under 1 million signed up the next cr which should be a budget will have to defund ocare just to save it from itself, quite a dilemma. Then they keep telling us the deficit is going down but forget the 21 new taxes in ocare now to pay later, the deficit is set to grow like kudzu!

tim c on October 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM

When Cruz and Mike Lee pushed hard for the defunding strategy and the shutdown tactics, their allies attacked Republicans who opposed those strategic choices as “voting for ObamaCare,” a charge that FreedomWorks continued this week. At the same time, Peter King and John McCain rushed to television to call conservatives crazy, stupid, or both.

It wasn’t at the same time, Ed. Show me the chronology that Cruz and Lee’s allies attacked them unprovoked by the comments the likes of King and McCain made prior to them firing back.

But you keep selling that BS along with your farcical mimicking of the Dems, “House’s 39 votes to repeal Obamacare” schlock.

Dusty on October 18, 2013 at 10:24 AM

is cruz perfect?
hell no.
does he have ulterior (political) motives behind his actions?
possibly.
is he one of the few actually trying?
hell yeah, almost everyone else is more afraid of their popularity than their principles.

dmacleo on October 18, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Nothing like a Cruz post to attract some of the squishies at Hot Air.

22044 on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Yes, and in droves. Cruz is the new punching bag.

conservative pilgrim on October 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM

“I think it was unfortunate that you saw multiple members of the Senate Republicans going on television attacking House conservatives, attacking the effort to defund Obamacare, saying, ‘It cannot win, It’s a fools error and we will lose, this must fail,’” Cruz said.

Um…yea. They said stuff like that.
Because? They said that Because…?
(Think hard here, Ted.)

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Cruz and Lee try to give the GOP a little back bone and show they have fight and principles and the usual suspects in the GOP call them extremists and idiots. They always do that, what is different this time is that Cruz/Lee didn’t back down. The GOP has a long problem with the “moderates” in the party pretending they are the conservatives and parroting the same attack lines as the liberals. So lets not pretend like “both sides were doing it” when it’s more a case of one side finally deciding to not take it any more.

Could the Cruz/Lee strategy have been improved? Sure. They always said it was a long shot that depended mostly on grass roots support to push other senators into action.

Instead of focusing on the “doomed and non-strategy” of Cruz/Lee pundits should have spent more of their time focusing on the fact that the GOP had NO plan. Cruz/Lee were filling a complete vacuum of leadership on the GOP side. The GOP had no plan for taking the fight to the liberals.

gwelf on October 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM

The only way to dismantle ObamaCare is to win elections.

Perhaps we need to learn from the Dems. They don’t care who wins the elections, they keep fighting and implementing their agenda and stopping the conservatives’ whether they are in power or not.

neuquenguy on October 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Cruz should take it up a notch by wearing a Redskins jersey.

mjbrooks3 on October 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM

you need to STFU, we’ll recall any Texas senator that wears that kinda garbage.

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM

THIS!! Some things are just NOT done!!

Reminds me of going to DC, showing my son RFK from the top of the Washington Monument and declaring “There, like Barad-Dur, is the home of the HATED and EVIL Redskins!”

questionmark on October 18, 2013 at 10:26 AM

No, you don’t need 99 friends. Just 51. 66 if you want to be able to overturn a presidential veto.

Math is not Ted’s friend. That much is certain.

Dukeboy01 on October 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM

context is such a hard concept isn’t it?

dmacleo on October 18, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Emperor Cruz.

It’s got a nice beat. I can dance to it.

LtGenRob on October 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Wow. Cruz is the new troll bait.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Nothing like a Cruz post to attract some of the squishies at Hot Air.

22044 on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Palin!

Bmore on October 18, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Palin/Cruz 2016!!

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Why did Obama give illegal waivers to big corporations and Congress from ObamaCare and refuse to give it to the common citizen too?

gwelf on October 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Bmore on October 18, 2013 at 10:28 AM

LOL! The Gilled One just passed out.

kingsjester on October 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Um…yea. They said stuff like that.
Because? They said that Because…?
(Think hard here, Ted.)

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Ed –
You mean the websites aren’t working perfectly on day one eighteen?

verbaluce on October 1, 2013 at 10:18 AM

NotCoach on October 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Ah yes another RINO koolaid drinker. Or worse a lefty troll.

bgibbs1000

ok, put forth a realistic explanation how defunding was actually going to work. How Obama would actually sign on to defund Obamacare.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Well, he certainly has the temperament to be President…

Mr. Arkadin on October 18, 2013 at 10:31 AM

No one can defeat us unless we first defeat ourselves. ~ President Dwight Eisenhower

No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown. ~ Governor William Penn

Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. ~ GEN George S. Patton

We need to lose the RINOs

Roy Rogers on October 18, 2013 at 10:31 AM

The biggest difference between Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Rand Paul versus most of the other Senators is their veracity. The Senate is teeming with psychopathic liars.

nofreelunch on October 18, 2013 at 10:31 AM

That means that Republicans and conservatives have to stop attacking each other’s integrity over choices in tactics,

Unfortunately, the attacks are deeper than just choices in tactics. The problem lies in choices in convictions and whether to uphold them.

I hate that the conservatives/tea partiers are getting hammered from every direction on the shutdown. I just heard a REPUBLICAN crisis manager (use to be a spokesperson for George Bush) eviscerate Ted Cruz on the Geraldo Rivera radio show. She was a guest along with Barney Frank, and she did more to damage the conservatives of the GOP than Frank ever could have. Pathetic.

KickandSwimMom on October 18, 2013 at 10:31 AM

ok, put forth a realistic explanation how defunding was actually going to work. How Obama would actually sign on to defund Obamacare.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Republican all vote for it. Enough Dems admit it was a disaster to go ahead and repeal or defund it.

At this point, Dems dare not mention the disaster. But the stink is growing every day. The dead corpse is rotting on America’s porch and you can’t blame the smell on the dog in the corner any more.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Thank you Ted Cruz.An American with principles!
If he should run for President, he will win because he knows how to communicate to all Americans of all parties.
This is why the media, the left, and the RINO’s fear him and want to bring him down.
Unfortunately,for them, they won’t lay a glove on him and he will impress American voters of all persuasions with his honesty and principle.
And he doesn’t need a teleprompter!

Delsa on October 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM

I don’t understand all the Cruz hate. Are you not suppose to stand on principals? Playing stupid political games gave up Obamacare, the debt, and a huge government.

If he is the only one fighting this trend why is he the issue?

Oil Can on October 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Cause the GOP establishment only pretends to care about those principles that Cruz is standing up for. In the end, they only care about winning elections and what they think will win them elections. They think actually standing up for those principles and sticking to it is an electoral loser. Look at the comments on here from the many GOP bootlickers.

Bitter Clinger on October 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Stay strong, Ted. Reinforcements are coming.

Robert_Paulson on October 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Why did Obama give illegal waivers to big corporations and Congress from ObamaCare and refuse to give it to the common citizen too?

gwelf on October 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Because you don’t need the Constitution and Congress when you are a Democrat President.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Republican all vote for it. Enough Dems admit it was a disaster to go ahead and repeal or defund it.

At this point, Dems dare not mention the disaster. But the stink is growing every day. The dead corpse is rotting on America’s porch and you can’t blame the smell on the dog in the corner any more.

oldroy

Every democrat in the senate voted against defunding. So the idea might have worked later on, but I still doubt any democrat senator would vote to defund. Delay, better chances (maybe 5% to 25% chance), but still slim. Democrats are a hive mind, so they have much less revolt.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Cruz is bucking the political tide and when you do that you will quickly be abandoned by the weak sisters in your party. Cruz is willing to take the punishment and we’re all fortunate that these brave souls still exist. Of course there is always the alternatives of quitting, compromising, whining and sacrificing your core principles.

rplat on October 18, 2013 at 10:35 AM

I hate that the conservatives/tea partiers are getting hammered from every direction on the shutdown. I just heard a REPUBLICAN crisis manager (use to be a spokesperson for George Bush) eviscerate Ted Cruz on the Geraldo Rivera radio show. She was a guest along with Barney Frank, and she did more to damage the conservatives of the GOP than Frank ever could have. Pathetic.

KickandSwimMom on October 18, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Corruption is a bipartisan effort.

the_nile on October 18, 2013 at 10:35 AM

That means that Republicans and conservatives have to stop attacking each other’s integrity over choices in tactics,

I agree Ed. But there are a number of the usual suspects in the GOP that have always been hostile towards the tea party and conservatives pushing a harder conservative line. They have attacked conservatives who get uppity for years. I know you didn’t support their attacks but it’s important to remember this isn’t new and that it has been one-sided for most of that time.

gwelf on October 18, 2013 at 10:35 AM

The next best chance to get rid of Obamacare is hope people still hate it in 2016, win the White House, and give waivers to all. IF everyone still hates it, that should cause the death spiral.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Why did Obama give illegal waivers to big corporations and Congress from ObamaCare and refuse to give it to the common citizen too?

gwelf on October 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Confirmed once again. This is the best troll repellant in the market.

neuquenguy on October 18, 2013 at 10:35 AM

What we have now is a recipe for losing the long-term fight, and it’s going to be a lot worse than a “shame” if that happens.
– Ed

What you actually have now is the ACA.
You and Allah seem well aware it’s here to stay and that repeal/defund efforts are a waste of time. Seeing and selling such as a ‘fight for the future’ is akin to saying the same for McConnell’s #1 priority of ensuring Obama is a one term president.
What’s actually going to happen now moving forward is the GOP will participate in the continued implementation of the law.

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Every democrat in the senate voted against defunding. So the idea might have worked later on, but I still doubt any democrat senator would vote to defund. Delay, better chances (maybe 5% to 25% chance), but still slim. Democrats are a hive mind, so they have much less revolt.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Also, what exactly has happened. 17% of the Government shut down. Who gives a rats ass. Federal employees get their pay, some are getting bonuses and raises. They got to stay home and be about as productive as they normally are.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Why did Obama give illegal waivers to big corporations and Congress from ObamaCare and refuse to give it to the common citizen too?

gwelf on October 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

The answer you seek lies within the question.

VegasRick on October 18, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Also, what exactly has happened. 17% of the Government shut down. Who gives a rats ass. Federal employees get their pay, some are getting bonuses and raises. They got to stay home and be about as productive as they normally are.

oldroy

And Obama got away with making it worse on people while doing so pretty much illegally which didn’t surprise me at all. You have to realize the GOP is playing against 2 teams, well 3 teams now. Democrats, Media and Tea Party.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

What’s actually going to happen now moving forward is the GOP will participate in the continued implementation of the law.

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Looking for someone to blame this disaster on already. How’s that very busy very productive business going today? Fridays are usually busy in very productive businesses.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

The only way to dismantle ObamaCare is to win elections. Democrats won’t just fold on ObamaCare because they don’t have to do so as long as they control the Senate and the White House; this is a lifetime achievement for them.

How about a 4 million man march after Americans find out what Obamacare really has done to their wallets.

derft on October 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

What’s actually going to happen now moving forward is the GOP will participate in the continued implementation of the law.

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Much as I hate to agree with this, I agree with this.

Bitter Clinger on October 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Palin/Cruz 2016!!

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM

LOL!

Good Lt on October 18, 2013 at 10:39 AM

What you actually have now is the ACA.
You and Allah seem well aware it’s here to stay and that repeal/defund efforts are a waste of time. Seeing and selling such as a ‘fight for the future’ is akin to saying the same for McConnell’s #1 priority of ensuring Obama is a one term president.
What’s actually going to happen now moving forward is the GOP will participate in the continued implementation of the law.

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Why did Obama give illegal waivers to big corporations and Congress from ObamaCare and refuse to give it to the common citizen too?

gwelf on October 18, 2013 at 10:39 AM

And Obama got away with making it worse on people while doing so pretty much illegally which didn’t surprise me at all. You have to realize the GOP is playing against 2 teams, well 3 teams now. Democrats, Media and Tea Party.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Ah. If it weren’t for the Tea Party, the Republicans would have principles, and would be able to communicate them?

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Much as I hate to agree with this, I agree with this.

Bitter Clinger on October 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Beat me to it.

neuquenguy on October 18, 2013 at 10:39 AM

No, you don’t need 99 friends. Just 51. 66 if you want to be able to overturn a presidential veto.

Math is not Ted’s friend. That much is certain.

Dukeboy01 on October 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Two thirds is required to override which comes to 67 senators.

Nothing like a Cruz post to attract some of the squishies at Hot Air.

22044 on October 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Yeppers! Bringing Morrissey and then selling to Salem were mistakes by Michelle Malkin. This place was a good place, but some of what gets posted here is trash, alas. It’s a squish site now, so bringing out the squishes is no surprise.

Go Bills!

mjbrooks3 on October 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM

*sigh* i gotta find a new website,

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM

It’s hard to have any sympathy for you when you bring it on yourself.

Quartermaster on October 18, 2013 at 10:40 AM

O/T How about a big thank you for Louie Gohmert for wacking that mole John McCain. Gotta love that.

derft on October 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

You have to realize the GOP is playing against 2 teams, well 3 teams now. Democrats, Media and Tea Party.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

BS , the tea party is a reaction against the corrupt GOP.

the_nile on October 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM

A short-time Senator with a big ego wants to be President. He is cheered on by a low information fan club.

Where have we seen this before?

Moesart on October 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM

What’s actually going to happen now moving forward is the GOP will participate in the continued implementation of the law.

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Allow me a minor correction verbaluce.

What’s actually going to happen now moving forward is the GOPe will participate in the continued implementation of the law.

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Bmore on October 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM

What’s actually going to happen now moving forward is the GOP will participate in the continued implementation of the law.

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

The “law” is not popular. It’s going to be a lot less popular when people get a real taste of it, except for big corporations and Congress who are exempt – care to explain that?

Why can’t Obama implement the “law”? It’s already the law. The Congress’ job is already done. Why does Obama need the GOP’s help implementing it? You do understand that Congress doesn’t implement the law (which cedes a lot of power and authority to the executive), right?

gwelf on October 18, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Ah. If it weren’t for the Tea Party, the Republicans would have principles, and would be able to communicate them?

oldroy

Yes. Because you don’t have the Akin/Murdouch/O’donnell types being used to smear the entire party.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:43 AM

What’s actually going to happen now moving forward is the GOP will participate in the continued implementation of the law.

verbaluce on October 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

So Republicans who weren’t even allowed to speak during Obama’s meetings at the White House, and wrote none of the law, who tried to de-fund in the house long before October, are going to be responsible for implementing the law? I thought it was already being implemented. What would need to be changed? Everything is already in order here.

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM

BS , the tea party is a reaction against the corrupt GOP.

the_nile

That still makes it a 3rd team smarty.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM

A short-time Senator with a big ego wants to be President. He is cheered on by a low information fan club.

Where have we seen this before?

Moesart on October 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM

What’s actually going to happen

Isn’t that “how to win” , and it’s all about winning election to now right?

the_nile on October 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM

I was born and lived in California for 44 years – before moving to South Carolina in 2002.

The USA is now becoming California - it is happening – sadly.

jake-the-goose on October 18, 2013 at 10:45 AM

That still makes it a 3rd team smarty.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM

The tea party is the opposition party against the Dem , GOP and media triumvirate. GOP doesn’t really fight.

the_nile on October 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Ed, I encourage you to watch this video of Brit Hume’s explanation of Tea Party’s strategy on the shutdown. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/87742-brit-hume-one-best-takes-tea-party/

SoldiersMom on October 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Yes. Because you don’t have the Akin/Murdouch/O’donnell types being used to smear the entire party.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:43 AM

So, you are saying that Cruz is one of the same?

oldroy on October 18, 2013 at 10:47 AM

The tea party is the opposition party against the Dem , GOP and media triumvirate. GOP doesn’t really fight.

the_nile

Which still makes it a 3rd team against the GOP. You’re making my point yet still arguing? No wonder you like Cruz.

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:47 AM

So Cruz doesn’t lose his seat, but other republicans do to democrats. How is that going to help get rid of Obamacare again?

Zaggs on October 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM

as the_nile so aptly pointed out “see who your friends are” and that goes for the voters. if they GOP had stood firm and lost as a cohesive unit the dems in conservative areas would be exposed in a very direct fashion that they couldnt deny. if they had stood firm for no more one-size-fits-all type spending bills it would expose those voting for frivolous spending but using the excuse that they couldnt help it because the overall bill was necessary. in other words they had a chance to make a small transformation but they picked a risk aversion strategy to avoid having to do any real work.

chasdal on October 18, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Q: We’ve all seen the trainwreck that is the Obamacare rollout. In the last week, we’ve seen liberals like Ezra Klein, Bob Beckel, Wolf Blitzer, Alan Colmes, and the Chicago Tribune, along with the emerging whispers of influential Democrats, who have declined as of this time to go on the record, call for a one-year delay. After Obama rejected the Republicans’ defund bill, they offered him and Reid a one-year delay bill, which they rejected as well. If it finally becomes painfully obvious to Obama that his ‘signature achievement’ is not ready for prime-time and he asks Congress to help him out, why should Republicans in either chamber assent considering the rhetoric he has used?

Just to be clear, I was on the ‘Do Not Shutdown The Government. Let’s Give Them The Full Rostenkowski!‘ team. To the ‘Delay Caucus,’ I say: No. F*cking. Way.

I am for implementing Obamacare EXACTLY as it was written, passed by Congress, signed into law by Obama, upheld by the Supreme Court, and regulated by Cruella Sebelius.

Americans need to learn that elections DO have consequences and they must bear responsibility for them.

Let the pain rain…hard.

Nevertheless, I am interested in hearing the pathetic reasons why anyone should acquiesce to a possible Obama demand that the law be delayed for a year after the last two weeks. If Obama and Democrats were unwilling to entertain any changes into their Precious then, why should ANYONE want to save them from themselves now?

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Just stand back and watch the American people recoil in horror at Obamacare for the next two years, then pick up the pieces in 2017.

TallDave on October 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM

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