Chris Matthews: Remember how friendly politics used to be, right-wing extremists?

posted at 4:01 pm on October 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

In case you didn’t instantly understand why a call for bipartisan bonhomie from Tingles, of all people, is a surreal joke, Noah Rothman has 15 paragraphs at Mediaite explaining. All I’d add is this: Is it really too much to ask of America’s lefty talking heads that they either demagogue grassroots righties as racists and militiamen or lecture the public on the need for more comity and civility in politics? It doesn’t seem like much. The whole “civility” pageant is, after all, just a pose they’ve developed after the Tucson shooting to score political points when an opportunity presents itself, before getting back to calling conservatives terrorists. The GOP shut down the government so now it’s time for a new episode of Reasonableness Theater. Let’s drop it, at long last. Say it loud — I’m a cutthroat partisan and I’m proud.

It’s applicable to marriage, work relationships, and most especially to rivalries: “Always be able to talk.”

I believe Speaker O’Neill and President Reagan honored that truism to a T. When I first met the conservative hero — he had come to Capitol Hill to give an early State of the Union — I tried breaking the ice. “Welcome to the room where we plot against you,” I offered. “Oh no,” Reagan countered. “It’s after six. The speaker told me that here in Washington we’re all friends after six.”

Critics can say what they will to diminish the importance of that sentiment. I believe it masks a far deeper value. It said that after all the fighting, all the battling of left and right here in this country, we’re in this thing together. In the end what matters is the system of self-government itself. It’s what gives us the chance to make things better.

All those hours of social time between the liberal speaker and the conservative president, all the shared birthday parties and over-the-top Irish toasts, all the Saint Patrick’s Days spent together, served to keep open the lines of communication.

Reagan’s alleged chumminess with Tip O’Neill is always — always — mentioned by old Hill hands when they want to lament the passing of the age of the Beltway as a Republican/Democrat buddy movie. Your homework assignment: Read Jay Nordlinger’s piece from earlier this year about how nasty O’Neill could get in criticizing his supposed chum. Here’s what the good ol’ days were like before the left had its own cable network devoted to calling Republicans stupid, crazy, and evil 24/7 except for the occasional “Lockup” and “To Catch a Predator” re-runs.

Reagan and O’Neill had some friendly moments — particularly when O’Neill saw Reagan in the hospital, after the latter had been shot. The two said the Lord’s Prayer together, I believe.

But look: By and large, O’Neill was a nasty piece of work, who constantly slandered and defamed Reagan as a hater of the poor, a warmonger, and an idiot. O’Neill may not have been a warmonger, but he was as ugly a class warrior as we’ve ever had. He was one of the most partisan men who ever lived…

Listen to O’Neill in 1984: “The evil is in the White House at the present time. And that evil is a man who has no care and no concern for the working class of America and the future generations of America, and who likes to ride a horse. He’s cold. He’s mean. He’s got ice water for blood.”…

I could spend all day quoting O’Neill’s invective and nonsense, but let me give you just another slice or two. O’Neill said of Reagan, “He only works three to three-and-a-half hours a day. He doesn’t do his homework. He doesn’t read his briefing papers. It’s sinful that this man is president of the United States. [That’s a weighty charge, coming from a faithful Catholic.] He lacks the knowledge that he should have, on every sphere, whether it’s the domestic or whether it’s the international sphere.”

If Boehner called Obama “evil” and said it was “sinful” that he was president, we’d be treated to a full week of Very Special Episodes of “Hardball” about the political End Times descending. Instead, this is the guy Matthews holds up as a model for political chatterers to follow. Judging by his own network, they already are.

Here he is just 24 hours or so ago, reaching for a way to explain that tea partiers overestimate their political influence and coming up with something … totally predictable. Exit question: What’s worse, that the MSNBC crowd really believe the smears they launch at tea partiers or that they might not believe them but have no problem pushing them anyway?


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Zell Miller remembers, Chrissy.

stevezilla on October 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM

He means the GOP use to do this, while the progressives dismantled the nation. He now wonders why that cannot continue.

DFCtomm on October 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM

I think it’s funny we’re have the entire dem, media, C of C, half the GOP and who knows else screaming bloody murder because we want to live within the financial means of the country.

Hey dems, you own the damn world, how much in taxes do want us to pay? Just say it.

DanMan on October 18, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I’m a cutthroat partisan and I’m proud!

Ahhh, exhilarating!

ChicagoBlue on October 18, 2013 at 4:17 PM

What’s worse, that the MSNBC crowd really believe the smears they launch at tea partiers or that they might not believe them but have no problem pushing them anyway?

Both are true. They believe the smear with their heart; logically know that the smears are false; repeat the smears anyway for money.

The mind of a liberal is your classic baon wrapped enigma riddle.

Deafdog on October 18, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Tip O’Neill shutdown the government 12 times, including 5 when Democrats only controlled the House of Representatives, but, in Tingles’ view, O’Neill had a ‘moderate’ constitution.

Of course, two drunks likely have a different definition of ‘moderate’ than sober people.

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 4:20 PM

“Used to bo?” What do you mean by that? Why do you hate the black president, Chris?

Good Lt on October 18, 2013 at 4:22 PM

She added that disasters such as Hurricane Katrina prove that “if we don’t have an effective federal government, people get hurt. In fact people can die.”

I thought that the Federal government could ‘close’ the ocean. Why didn’t it use this nifty Canute power to prevent Katrina from making landfall.

Oh, and by the way, Blanco and Nagin were Democrats.

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Chris Matthews: Remember how friendly politics used to be, right-wing extremists?

Anyone remember when Chris Matthews used to be considered Sane??

ToddPA on October 18, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Chris Matthews was chief of staff to Tip O’Neill.

That tells you all you need to know.

INC on October 18, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. — Eric Hoffer

Mr. D on October 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Reagan Supreme Court Nominee Robert Bork says “Excuse me?”

portlandon on October 18, 2013 at 4:26 PM

He should stop drinking his meals.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on October 18, 2013 at 4:27 PM

American politics have been nasty since before day one. There was vindictiveness in the Continental Congresses and in the Continental army.

rbj on October 18, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Obama could have negotiated with the minority party. Clinton did it, Reagan did it, Bush I and II did it. Why would these other presidents give in to “terrorists” with “bombs strapped to their chests”? Because they’re rational people who understand that the minority party still wields an impressive amount of power, as it should be, as it was designed to be, to ensure that there is broad support for all laws passed.

But Obama didn’t do that. Obama insisted on unconditional surrender. We won. You lost. For Obama, nothing was more important than that. He went out of his way to make the shutdown as painful for the public as possible. Kids with cancer didn’t get their treatments. He even insinuated to Wall St that they should tank the market and destroy people’s savings, all so he could claim victory.

Obama is egotistical, pompous, incompetent and will be regarded as the worst president in history. Worse the GWB. Worse than Carter. Obama is the radical extremist, not the tea party.

hisfrogness on October 18, 2013 at 4:29 PM

In an alternate universe, Tingles has a point. In this alternate universe, BHO had a history as a legislator who was always respectful to the President and worked diligently with republicans to solve contentious issues.

In our current universe, however, Tingles is full of sh*t.

Deafdog on October 18, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Hey Chrissy, I’d be a bit careful if I were you…. You and your media cronies are over playing your hands….. Could come back to bite you….

sandee on October 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Hey Chrissy, I’d be a bit careful if I were you…. You and your media cronies are over playing your hands….. Could come back to bite you….

sandee on October 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Have teeth, will travel.

Turtle317 on October 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM

I guess America’s “national treasure” forgets history. This event had nothing to do with Ted Cruz or the “Tea Baggers” but I’m not dismissing the idea as something that shouldn’t be rejected out of hand.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Mr. Matthews,

Will you be signing up for ObamaCare?

Regards,

John Q. Public

BobMbx on October 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM

So how many years would you guess before the left starts on a war path to comment genocide against conservatives? They’re constant slander and vile insults are an attempt to dehumanize the right. Reminds me of what the Hutus did to the Tutsi’s before they slaughtered them in the streets.

jawkneemusic on October 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Chris Matthews is much too exuberant for his own good.

rickv404 on October 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Mother Theresa called, Chris.

She hates you.

itsspideyman on October 18, 2013 at 4:41 PM

The Etch-A-Sketch nation has begun…

He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future. ~ George Orwell

Fallon on October 18, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Matthews has never said an intelligent thing in his entire life. Having a blog/article about him is the utter pit of uselessness.

VorDaj on October 18, 2013 at 4:42 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) – In withering day-after criticism, President Barack Obama declared Thursday that the 16-day partial government shutdown was a Republican-provoked spectacle that “encouraged our enemies” around the world.

When you’re this president and basically accuses your political opponents – and by extension about half the population – of treason, it will all seem natural to get back into the “let’s get together for the good of the country” mode.

Others not so much.

Drained Brain on October 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM

I thought that the Federal government could ‘close’ the ocean. Why didn’t it use this nifty Canute power to prevent Katrina from making landfall.

Oh, and by the way, Blanco and Nagin were Democrats.

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Katrina and Rita were strong female hurricanes. Ivan and Andrew were just as powerful storms and nobody was suggesting the ocean should have been shut down then! Just how much of a bigot are you? ;0

And BTW. Kathleen Blando (my pet term for her which is also technically more correct) and C. Ray. Nagin were not Democrats. They were corrupt Louisiana Democrats. But I repeat myself.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Just as an “experiment” I tried getting into healthcare.gov and got a user/passwd without too much, but whenever I try to go any further, it goes to the signon screen after apparently logging me off. I tried 4 times and got logged on and then right back to the signon screen again. I don’t think they tested this garbage for even a day.

VorDaj on October 18, 2013 at 4:46 PM

So how many years would you guess before the left starts on a war path to comment genocide against conservatives? They’re constant slander and vile insults are an attempt to dehumanize the right. Reminds me of what the Hutus did to the Tutsi’s before they slaughtered them in the streets.

jawkneemusic on October 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM

What is astonishing is how the rest of the world is just standing by, watching this happen.

What entity, in their right mind, would invest in debt instruments being sold by another entity who is $17T in debt, and shows no concern at all over increasing that number?

Just exactly, if anyone can tell me, what is the dollar value of the “full faith and credit of the United States”?

Keep in mind this is the country that has doubled its debt in 5 years, spies on its own people and every other government on the planet, and has an operative kill list.

Somebody please work those into the faith and credit mantra for me.

BobMbx on October 18, 2013 at 4:47 PM

What politics looked like in more ‘friendly times’ circa 1800:

‘John Adams is a blind, bald crippled toothless man, who secretly wants to start a war with France. When he’s not busy importing mistresses from Europe he’s trying to marry one of his sons to a daughter of King George III.’

‘John Adams is a hideous hermaphroditical character with neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.’

‘Should Jefferson prove victorious, there is scarcely a possibility that we shall escape a Civil War. Murder, robbery, rape, adultery, incest will be openly taught and practised, the air will be rent with the cries of distress, the soil will be soaked with blood, the nation black with crimes.’

‘Every dissolute intriguer, loose-liver, forger, false coiner, and prison-bird; every hair-brained, loud talking demagogue; every speculator, scoffer and atheist – is a follower of Jefferson.’

‘Are you prepared to see your dwellings in flames? Female chastity violated? Children writhing on the pike? [They will be if Thomas Jefferson is elected President] If, not prepare for the task of protecting your government. Look at every leading Jacobin as at a ravening wolf, preparing to enter your peaceful fold, and glut his deadly appetite on the virals of your country.’

‘The question is not what [Jefferson] will do, but what he is. Is he an infidel? Then, you cannot elect him without betraying our Lord. From all known infidels then let us withdraw our confidence and support. We are highly criminal if we knowingly contribute in any way to increase their influence or power for in so doing we contribute to our own and our country’s ruin. Let us hear no more, at such times, of amiability and gentleness — or candor, liberality, and moderation — of conciliating, mild and generous feeling. Such qualities are now not virtues, but vices.’

‘Jefferson is the son of a half-breed Indian squaw raised on hoe-cakes.’

‘[Jefferson is] a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father.’

Hamilton is a Creole bastard brat of a Scotch pedlar.

And, those were just the words coming out of the two opposing presidential camps.

It didn’t stop there…

‘Great god of compassion and justice, shield my country from destruction [which will certainly follow a Jefferson election.'

– The banner of the Connecticut Current, a Federalist-leaning newspaper

Good grief! Even Martha Washington got in on the act.

'[Jefferson is] one of the most detestable of mankind…Preach it!’

Today’s ‘angry rhetoric’ and political contemptuousness are nothing new.

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Mr. Matthews,

Will you be signing up for ObamaCare?

Regards,

John Q. Public

BobMbx on October 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Tingles is 67. He qualifies for Medicare.

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM

That. Is. AWESOME!

hisfrogness on October 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Katrina and Rita were strong female hurricanes. Ivan and Andrew were just as powerful storms and nobody was suggesting the ocean should have been shut down then! Just how much of a bigot are you? ;0

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Keep in mind that Ivan and Andrew attacked rednecks and Jews. You might find that liberals consider those hurricanes to be beneficial.

BobMbx on October 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Tingles is 67. He qualifies for Medicare.

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM

So…..we’re paying for his Depends?

The hits just keep on coming.

BobMbx on October 18, 2013 at 4:55 PM

I love it when fat, drunk, narcissistic, talentless, thuggish blowhards resort to projection in order to attempt to make their pathetic points….

I think the sum of IQ’s at MSNBC would, at best, equal room temperature.

Athos on October 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM

You have to forgive Matthews. His mind is shot. I bet he doesn’t even remember back in 2008 he used to be critical of Obama’s lack of experience. Here’s this exchange from Feb 2008:

“Chris Matthews, the MSNBC political pundit, recently grilled Texas State Senator Kirk Watson for supporting Obama despite knowing nothing about the candidate’s legislative record.
“Can you name any — can you name anything he’s accomplished?” Matthews pressed.
“No,” Watson, whose district includes Austin, finally admitted. “I’m not gonna be able to do that.”
“Well, that’s a problem, isn’t it?” Matthews said.”

I believe that was back when he supported Hillary.

JohnnyL on October 18, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Commit*

jawkneemusic on October 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Their* oh my….

jawkneemusic on October 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Keep in mind that Ivan and Andrew attacked rednecks and Jews. You might find that liberals consider those hurricanes to be beneficial.

BobMbx on October 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Good point. Katrina and Rita also hit rednecks but not so much the Jews. That might have tipped the balance with liberals in keeping the ocean open for Ivan and Andrew.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Oh, and remember when Democrats went batshit crazy because Boehner denied Obama the ability to address a joint session of Congress over healthcare because there was a GOP presidential debate at the Reagan Presidential Library that night, which had been scheduled months in advance? If you will recall, the usual suspects donned their usual freakout suits and played their usual race cards. ‘No President has EVER been denied the ‘right’ to address Congress and the only reason that this is happening is because there’s a black man in the White House!!!’

Well, one man, James Freeman at the Wall Street Journal, remembered when Tip O’Neill refused Ronald Reagan’s request:

‘The June 24, 1986, edition of The Wall Street Journal featured a story headlined, “President’s Bid to Address the House On Nicaragua Is Rejected by Speaker.” That’s right, no quibbling over the date and time, just a flat-out rejection. In that case, President Ronald Reagan wanted to address the House before its critical vote on funding for the anti-communist “Contra” rebels in Nicaragua. Then-Speaker Thomas “Tip” O’Neil said that he was willing to host a Reagan speech if it was expanded to include the Senate in a joint session, or he would allow the President to speak to the House alone if the President would also agree to take questions from lawmakers. Otherwise, there would be no Reagan speech in the House chamber. Reagan already had the votes to prevail in the Senate, and Mr. O’Neil wanted to avoid having the spotlight turned on the House, which would make him and his colleagues accountable to the public if Contra aid were rejected.

Both Speaker O’Neil then and Speaker Boehner this week were on very solid Constitutional ground. The president has no more right to take over the proceedings in the House, or to invite himself in, than does the speaker have the right to commandeer the president’s time and attention within the White House.’

I dunno, maybe, Tip O’Neill was just bigoted toward white, Irish-Protestants or something.

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 5:07 PM

That. Is. AWESOME!

hisfrogness on October 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Thx. I’m scouring my files for some of the stuff that I’ve collected over the years. I’m going to try and post it on my blog today. :-)

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 5:08 PM

I think the sum of IQ’s at MSNBC would, at best, equal room temperature.

Athos on October 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM

And among his friends he is known as Einstein.

Happy Nomad on October 18, 2013 at 5:10 PM

“He only works three to three-and-a-half hours a day. He doesn’t do his homework. He doesn’t read his briefing papers. It’s sinful that this man is president of the United States.

Whoa………for a second there I thought he was talking about King Barry……………

GarandFan on October 18, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Yeah, well friendly is what brought us to the edge and over. P!ss off Matthews. Friendly to the left has become “kneel before Zod!” No more.

totherightofthem on October 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Chris Matthews: Remember how friendly politics used to be, right-wing extremists?

Why yes Chrissy Tinkles, I do. It seems like only yesterday. Let’s see, which of the horrible meany leftist assassination attempts should I list for you? Hmmm……………I know, let’s do some recent bombing history, shall we Chrissy? No? Hmmm…..

Bmore on October 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

New Steyn…

A Potemkin Parliament on the Potomac

Resist We Much on October 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM

As reported by Newsbusters, FNC’s Greta Van Susteren takes a clue-by-four to Chris Matthews over Matthews’ assertion that group pressure at MSNBC, FNC, and other media outlets force commentators / hosts to be more partisan

Greta’s retort:

I am stunned because, while no one has ever told me in 11 1/2 years what to say (I would walk out and those who know me know that to be true.) I have also not been weak to some amorphous “group pressure.” I now read that it DOES HAPPEN at MS/NBC – or so it is alleged by one of their anchors! Chris Matthews admits to ‘group pressure’ at MS/NBC. That is really awful that it happens there or that he feels it is going on. It makes no difference if it does actually happen or not – it is in Chris Matthews [sic] mind that it does. Hence his views and questions and statements – are poisoned. You are not getting pure facts or conviction from him — you are getting showbiz and manipulation.

I am guessing that Matthews thinks in some pathetic way that it makes him look better if he accuses others of his own failings. Sort of like, “we all do it.” “Well Chris, we don’t all do it. You do it.” Those are not my failings. Those are his. Matthews may be weak and worried about his job – but I am not weak, and never have been. Matthews may be for sale, I am not. [...]
If I were his colleague, I would be furious at him for trying to paint me with his broad brush about himself.

With Matthews and his ilk, it’s all about projection and broad brush painting.

Athos on October 18, 2013 at 6:25 PM

LIAR!!! You can’t remember anything. You’re a DRUN!!

RdLake on October 19, 2013 at 12:25 AM

And of course, there is always Cheney’s response to faux civility right after being attacked on the floor of the Senate…….

Ann Coulter’s first really big book was “Slander,” which does a fine job of listing the attacks, smears, extremism, and pure nastiness of the left.

That would be the same people who keep calling her “mean” and “hateful”.

There Goes the Neighborhood on October 19, 2013 at 6:56 AM

I think the sum of IQ’s at MSNBC would, at best, equal room temperature.

Athos on October 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM

You are generous.

cableguy615 on October 19, 2013 at 8:33 AM