Obama: Now that this shutdown’s out of the way, it’s time for amnesty

posted at 11:21 am on October 16, 2013 by Allahpundit

When your opponent is weak, press your advantage.

“Once that’s done — you know, the day after — I’m going to be pushing (Congress) to say, call a vote on immigration reform,” Obama told the Los Angeles affiliate of Univision, the Spanish language television network.

Obama’s immigration hopes figure to continue hitting opposition in the Republican-run House, where members describe a proposed path to citizenship as amnesty for lawbreakers…

As he has during shutdown and debt ceiling impasses, Obama placed the blame on House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio.

“We had a very strong Democratic and Republican vote in the Senate,” Obama told Univision. “The only thing right now that’s holding it back is, again, Speaker Boehner not willing to call the bill on the floor of the House of Representatives.”

I hate to say it but this is the smart play for him politically, no? For two reasons. First, the last last last thing Obama wants after his big shutdown/debt ceiling win is to let the GOP start a party-unifying feeding frenzy over the ObamaCare tech disaster. That’s where we’re headed starting tomorrow, and that’s why O’s emphasizing that he won’t waste a single day before reintroducing a shiny object to change the subject. I doubt it’ll work but he’s got to try something, and immigration reform is one of the last big policy initiatives he stands a chance of passing before he’s a hopelessly lame duck. If nothing else, given that immigration reform polls well, talking it up for a week or two might help revive his job approval after the beating it’s taken over the last three weeks.

Second, what better way to keep RINOs and tea partiers at each other’s throats than by pushing amnesty front and center? In a sane world, GOP leaders in Congress would reject it out of hand for precisely that reason; now is a moment to repair relations within the party, not deepen the schism by pushing hard on immigration reform. Do Republicans like Boehner and Ryan see it that way, though? Now that their own job approval is at rock bottom, they may be less concerned with pleasing conservatives than with rehabilitating their image with the wider public (and Latinos especially). And, as noted, immigration reform polls reasonably well. They may even figure that, having already alienated tea partiers with the big shutdown cave — e.g., here’s Erick Erickson basically calling for primaries all around — there’s less to lose than there normally would be by betraying the right yet again. If you’re going to get primaried for “selling out” on defunding ObamaCare, you might as well pander to centrists and Latino voters with a big immigration bill. That might boost centrist turnout for you in a primary, which would dilute the effect of a tea-party backlash.

But of course, it’d be hugely risky. Conservatives in the House might let Boehner slide on the big fiscal cave just because they never really offered him a strategy to make the “defund” effort work, but if he rubber-stamped an amnesty deal he’d lose them irretrievably. To do that would mean committing to govern the House with Democratic votes for the next year, which would be potentially ruinous for the GOP in the midterms. All of which is to say, while there are reasons why the Republican leadership might kinda sorta consider this, O certainly knows that it’s unlikely to pass. He’s going to press it urgently now not because he thinks Boehner might bring the Gang of Eight bill to the floor but because he suspects he won’t and plans to use that to hurt the GOP with centrists. “Tea partiers forced their leaders into a shutdown,” he’ll say, “and now they’re forcing Boehner not to allow a vote on a Senate deal that would pass. The only solution is a new Democratic majority in the House.” Probably won’t work, but if he wants to get anything done in the last two years of his presidency, Speaker Pelosi is his one and only hope.


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Two cataclysmic events back to back & Americans do nothing.

RdLake on October 16, 2013 at 12:52 PM

We have been doing nothing for a long time now. Remember TARP, Prokulus, Obamacare, Debt Limit fights for several years, not to mention Benghazi, Fast and Furios, and on and on. It is always the next hill we will die on.

neuquenguy on October 16, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Don’t fight GOP… We don’t have all three branches yet, so any opposition will be a failure.. Signed, RINOS..

melle1228 on October 16, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Two cataclysmic events back to back & Americans do nothing.

RdLake on October 16, 2013 at 12:52 PM

We are part of the nothing generation, and it crosses all age groups. Nothing outrages us. My regard for Americans has hit rock bottom.

rrpjr on October 16, 2013 at 1:01 PM

McCain will be at the Farragut Metro station at 4 AM tomorrow to buy the first copy of the Washington Post and see if they FINALLY say something nice about him.

jangle12 on October 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM

obama … it’s time for amnesty

This news gives Marco Rubio an erection.

Pork-Chop on October 16, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Perhaps we should emigrate to where they’re from and start a new country. By the time this is over, theirs will have been emptied out.

Cleombrotus on October 16, 2013 at 12:33 PM

I think I’ll go back to San Juan

I know a boat you can get on,

Everyone there will give big cheer!

Everyone there will have moved here.

de rigueur on October 16, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Conservatives in the House might let Boehner slide on the big fiscal cave just because they never really offered him a strategy to make the “defund” effort work, but if he rubber-stamped an amnesty deal he’d lose them irretrievably. To do that would mean committing to govern the House with Democratic votes for the next year, which would be potentially ruinous for the GOP in the midterms.

The GOPe is a ruined party. If it weren’t for gerrymandering, there would be a loss of 70+ reps for the GOPe. They’ll be lucky to lose just 30 or 40.

And as Ohio effectively banned the Libertarian Party from participating in any election of consequence (to protect Socialist turncoat Kasich), I might as well just stay home and forget about voting from here on out. My vote has been demonstrated to not matter one bit time and time again.

F the GOPe. F the Dems. Screw the republic.

Myron Falwell on October 16, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Yep – time for amnesty!

The GOP Ayatollahs have proven they’ll eat their own before even attempting to take on Obama!

FULL SPEED AHEAD BOYS!

HondaV65 on October 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Hey, now, nobody can take on obama as effectively as you did, by voting for him lol :)…

jimver on October 16, 2013 at 1:15 PM

We already have enough evidence of who the traitors are. McRage, Cornyn, McConnell, Boehner …
 
HondaV65 on October 16, 2013 at 11:29 AM

 
What specifically makes them traitors in your eyes?

rogerb on October 16, 2013 at 1:18 PM

I think it would be very funny to take all the barry-cades and move them to the mexican border.

Ronnie on October 16, 2013 at 1:19 PM

The House will not even bring illegal immigration for discussion… It is DOA in the House… Obama is delusional (as usual) to think that because the Republicans could not defund Obamacare, it was impossible anyway, that he would now force them to vote on illegal immigration in the House…

mnjg on October 16, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Don’t be so sure. Lot of pressure from democrat media ….I expect it will happen…

Redford on October 16, 2013 at 1:28 PM

We already have enough evidence of who the traitors are. McRage, Cornyn, McConnell, Boehner …

HondaV65 on October 16, 2013 at 11:29 AM

What specifically makes them traitors in your eyes?

rogerb on October 16, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Honda’s quote should be screencapped and put in the American Heritage Dictionary next to the definition of “irony.”

Myron Falwell on October 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Don’t be so sure. Lot of pressure from democrat media ….I expect it will happen…

Redford on October 16, 2013 at 1:28 PM

After today, there is no reason for the Hastert Rule to exist. Bohenor and the RINOs will confer with the Dems to ran it through with a rubber stamp.

Just merge the Dems into the GOPe and make it official.

Myron Falwell on October 16, 2013 at 1:37 PM

No its not.

jake49 on October 16, 2013 at 1:49 PM

We the people have been stripped of any means of legal redress against tyranny. The time for refreshing the tree of liberty draws near. May the Almighty have mercy on us.

cornbred on October 16, 2013 at 1:49 PM

The House will not even bring illegal immigration for discussion… It is DOA in the House… Obama is delusional (as usual) to think that because the Republicans could not defund Obamacare, it was impossible anyway, that he would now force them to vote on illegal immigration in the House…

mnjg

It’s impossible to stop amnesty. Republicans only control the House, and they have no power. Plus the polls are against them. This is a fight they can’t win. Time to pass amnesty and get it off the table so we can focus on the next issue which is where the REAL battle will take place.

/sarc

xblade on October 16, 2013 at 1:52 PM

xblade on October 16, 2013 at 1:52 PM

jeje

neuquenguy on October 16, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Anyone who thinks the Senate passed bill is amnesty has clearly not read the bill.

cdw070

Anyone who thinks it isn’t amnesty is dumb as a f#&king stump or a lying pos.

You can’t win a fight you can’t aren’t interested in win winning.

FIFY.

You can’t drive spending cuts when Democrats control the Senate and White House.

breffnian

You absolutely can. But, you have to be interested in fighting to win instead of fighting not to lose, and republicans simply aren’t.

Were it not for the U.S. and the British, the French would be speaking German and celebrating Octoberfest rather than Bastille Day.

bw222

And if we had adopted his “you can’t win a fight you can’t win” mantra, America would be a British territory.

xblade on October 16, 2013 at 1:59 PM

We the people have been stripped of any means of legal redress against tyranny. The time for refreshing the tree of liberty draws near. May the Almighty have mercy on us.

cornbred on October 16, 2013 at 1:49 PM

I hear you.

rrpjr on October 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Note to illegal aliens :

You might want to think twice about amnesty.

Why?

Well, based on the Obamacare clusterf*ck, do you think amnesty is going to turn out any better?

For one thing, if you get amnesty, you are going to get sucked into Obamacare. Do you really want to have to pay for your own health insurance?

No taxes, no Obamacare mandate, no criminal background checks, you have it pretty sweet right now.

The Democratic party doesn’t need your vote, it has enough low info voters already.

You might want to wait for amnesty until after the Screw-Up-In-Chief leaves office.

MichaelGabriel on October 16, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Amnesty….well, why not, when you’re setting out to destroy the Republican Party, don’t stop half-way.
That’s going to be quite a legacy you’re building there, Mr. Speaker!

Another Drew on October 16, 2013 at 2:35 PM

“Once that’s done — you know, the day after — I’m going to be pushing (Congress) to say, call a vote on immigration reform,”

And why not? The damned Republicans have caved on the debt limit, caved on the exemptions given under the ACA…………..

GarandFan on October 16, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Don’t be so sure. Lot of pressure from democrat media ….I expect it will happen…Redford on October 16, 2013 at 1:28 PM

And greater pressure from the RINOs led by Paul Ryan.

AH_C on October 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Can we officially say we’ve reached the point that
it is now Washington DC vs America??

ToddPA on October 16, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Note to illegal aliens :

You might want to think twice about amnesty.

Why?

Well, based on the Obamacare clusterf*ck, do you think amnesty is going to turn out any better?

For one thing, if you get amnesty, you are going to get sucked into Obamacare. Do you really want to have to pay for your own health insurance?

No taxes, no Obamacare mandate, no criminal background checks, you have it pretty sweet right now.

The Democratic party doesn’t need your vote, it has enough low info voters already.

You might want to wait for amnesty until after the Screw-Up-In-Chief leaves office.

MichaelGabriel on October 16, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Shh, the R+D Establishment needs second-class slave labor drones to fund an unsustainable welfare state for another generation, hence the racist pseudo-amnesty plan.

ebrown2 on October 16, 2013 at 3:04 PM

It’s not a question of who will fight the battles (we all know RINOS are cave men) but the fights must be prioritized and the battles must be fought when they can be won. Amnesty is the most important battle because a loss here means the end of the country. PERIOD! Also the fight is winnable because it is NOT LAW YET AND the Republicans are in charge of the House.

With Obamacare. Already law. Dems in charge of the executive, judicial and the senate plus they have the MSM and bureaucracy behind them. I can only pray that the futile battle here, fought at the wrong time with insufficient manpower and ammunition, has not hurt us in the 2014 elections AND with the AMNESTY battle. Actually the disaster that is Obamacare should be our greatest weapon in 2014 but it has been sidetracked by the defunding folly.

MaiDee on October 16, 2013 at 3:16 PM

I think after amnesty we need food reform. We need the government to control production and distribution of all food in America. It should work well.

oldroy on October 16, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Amnesty while the borders are still gushing new illegals. What happened to us?

RdLake on October 16, 2013 at 5:41 PM

“In a sane world, GOP leaders in Congress would reject it out of hand for precisely that reason; now is a moment to repair relations within the party, not deepen the schism by pushing hard on immigration reform.”

^^^This. Amnesty is a party-splitting deal-breaker. And if the GOP thinks they’ve had pressure from the base so far… they ain’t seen nothin’ yet. I won’t ever vote for a damned Democrat again. But that doesn’t mean I won’t step aside and let them EAT YOU FOR LUNCH, Establishment Republicans. Remember that.

Murf76 on October 16, 2013 at 5:57 PM

How long do you think it will Take Boehner and McConnell to cave. I’m betting on one week.

jainphx on October 16, 2013 at 6:05 PM

cdw070 on October 16, 2013 at 11:48 AM

You are completely incorrect. I read the actual bill and posted links and long excepts from it here over a two week period.

It IS amnesty and worse. It will finish the destruction of our once great country and our economy.

For cryin out loud they are planning on more than doubling the number of guest workers, while we have 25 million unemployed and adding 20 million illegals to the low pay low skill job market.

Anyone who likes this bill is INSANE or has been bought off.

dogsoldier on October 16, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Just wait until Boehner gets a hold of amnesty. Time for McCain and King to sharpen their knives.

mobydutch on October 16, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Time for Lee, Paul, Cruz and other Conservative patriots to band together and leave the merging one Party rule of big government progressives. I like the name “Conservatarian Party”.

Decoski on October 16, 2013 at 10:04 PM

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