Lawrence O’Donnell: “Redskins” owner is the new George Wallace or something

posted at 6:01 pm on October 15, 2013 by Allahpundit

A must-see via the Corner, not because O’Donnell’s suggesting one is as bad as the other — he isn’t really — but because it’s a lesson in how quickly leftist opinion can transform an esoteric issue that they’ve ignored for decades into bien-pensant conventional wisdom that demands hysterical demonization of its opponents. Bob Costas is another perfect example. When exactly did it occur to him, wonders Joe Concha, that “Redskins” is “problematic”?

I mentioned earlier that Bob is 61. That said, he’s been in broadcasting for nearly 40 years, entering the fray in 1974 St. Louis before hitting the big-time nationally in the early ‘80s. That said, the Redskins have played (including playoffs) about 640 games since Costas was given a megaphone to voice his opinion. NBC owned rights to the NFL during the start of Costas’ career at the network until 1997, and again from 2006 to present day. Having that said, Costas had literally hundreds of opportunities to voice his opinion on the Redskins name during an NFL telecast.

But only after a few other prominent white sports writers and reporters came out against the name did Costas have his epiphany, find his voice on taking on Dan Snyder—the owner of a NFL’s most profitable team…a team that hasn’t seen even a blip in loss of revenue for using a name for 81 years that Costas now deems as a racial slur.

Of course, if he had led on the topic, as ESPN’s Tony Kornheiser (formerly of the Washington Post) has since 1992 (and was basically a lone major voice on the topic in sports media until recently), that’s one thing. But for Costas to raise a hand and be part of the “Me too!” crowd is, quite frankly, an obvious show of conformity for conformity’s sake.

I checked our archives to see when our own blogging about the anti-”Redskins” movement began. Could be that this subject, which has been percolating for ages, reached full boil on the left a long time ago, but if it did, we missed it. The first notice we took of it was Erika’s post in March about a small group of congressional Democrats trying to do something legislatively about it. (They’re still trying, by the way.) A few weeks later there was something about the D.C. City Council wanting to do something about it. Then Redskins owner Dan Snyder made his big blunder: He told USA Today, “We’ll never change the name. It’s that simple. NEVER — you can use caps.” That was him essentially daring the left to try to force him by engineering new “enlightened” ground rules on “Redskins” usage for the media and political class. A few months later, “Slate” dropped the word; Rachel Maddow followed suit and then, inevitably, Obama was asked about it and tepidly endorsed changing the name. And so now, with record speed, here’s O’D in the highest self-righteous dudgeon towards people who hold a position that virtually no one gave a wet fart about six months ago. To me, that’s the worst part of the whole anti-Redskins phenomenon. It’s not opposing the term itself that’s annoying; that’s defensible. It’s not even getting indignant with people who don’t see a problem with using it. It’s the sanctimony coupled with the faddishness of the whole thing. How dare Dan Snyder disagree with something that the left didn’t care about five minutes ago? How dare he? Somewhere the owner of the Cleveland Indians is watching all this and wondering when it’ll be his turn, and who’ll decide when it is.

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Call me racist, just don’t mess with my Eskimo Pies

Roy Rogers on October 15, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Just go straight to Hitler and get it over with, Larry.

Funny how as soon as Lord Obama signals a position on a subject such as this, things that were ignored for decades are suddenly outrageous outrages to these pathetic clowns in the media.

forest on October 15, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Keep the team name, but change the logo to a red potato. Problem solved. Then these whining monkeys will have to circle wank to some other made up grievance.

locomotivebreath1901 on October 15, 2013 at 6:05 PM

So the MSNBC channel is the new Comedy Channel?

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 15, 2013 at 6:07 PM

No doubt they should change the name, it’s offensive to many. They should just be called “The Redskins”

JusDreamin on October 15, 2013 at 6:08 PM

When I lived in Portland from 1990-93 The Oregonian chose to drop “Redskins” and just use the Washington team. Of course, they had no problems with the local basketball team, the Trailblazers. Who were named after Lewis & Clark — two white guys who explored a lot of Indian land for the US government.

rbj on October 15, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Lawrence O’Donnell: “Redskins” owner is the new George Wallace or something

So the owner of the Redskins is a hardcore Democrat just like Wallace and O’Donnell?

visions on October 15, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Kind of strong rhetoric coming from a guy who’s a talking head for a production team that belongs to a corporation. He hasn’t had a genuine thought of his own come out of his mouth on air in years.

thatsafactjack on October 15, 2013 at 6:09 PM

And so now, with record speed, here’s O’D in the highest self-righteous dudgeon towards people who hold a position that virtually no one gave a wet fart about six months ago. To me, that’s the worst part of the whole anti-Redskins phenomenon. It’s not opposing the term itself that’s annoying; that’s defensible. It’s not even getting indignant with people who don’t see a problem with using it. It’s the sanctimony coupled with the faddishness of the whole thing.

Sort of like Obama with SSM. His religious objections were not bigotry. But, after he ‘evolved,’ the same religious objections held by others are considered evidence of their bigotry and homophobia.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2013 at 6:09 PM

And so now, with record speed, here’s O’D in the highest self-righteous dudgeon towards people who hold a position that virtually no one gave a wet fart about six months ago.


I can actually see a family resemblance between O’Donnell and wet farts… and they all sound very similar!
.
P.U., Lar!

ExpressoBold on October 15, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Why doesn’t he (the anchor) come right out and accuse Snyder own slaves?

You know he wants to.

Sir Napsalot on October 15, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Sort of like Obama with SSM. His religious objections were not bigotry. But, after he ‘evolved,’ the same religious objections held by others are considered evidence of their bigotry and homophobia.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2013 at 6:09 PM

+1

gwelf on October 15, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Boston tough guy Larry O’Donnell will next want the BoSox to be the RadSex. Inclusionism.

BHO Jonestown on October 15, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Are they going to force the teams for native american highschools with the the name “Redskins” change their names too? I don’t think anyone has indoctrinated them yet to think Redskin is an epithet.

gwelf on October 15, 2013 at 6:15 PM

The Left – any excuse to call someone a name

jake-the-goose on October 15, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Has the ginned up Redskins controversy replaced Trayvon? I vote for changing the mascot to a potato wearing a hoodie and then mooning the hysterical newly minted critics.

Mason on October 15, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Sorry, I forgot to add that the “force of history” slogan is the worst kind of B.S.

Mason on October 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Somewhere the owner of the Cleveland Indians is watching all this and wondering when it’ll be his turn, and who’ll decide when it is.

And then they will go after the teams that “glorify religion”; the Saints will be run out of New Orleans and the Padres will be pushed into the Pacific Ocean.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM

ALL of my Apache friends think we white guys are idiots for worrying about this. They could care less.

redshirt on October 15, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Has the ginned up Redskins controversy replaced Trayvon? I vote for changing the mascot to a potato wearing a hoodie and then mooning the hysterical newly minted critics.

Mason on October 15, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Trayvon’s name came up yesterday here in New England-apparently a drunken Red Sox fan (Democrat?) was kicked out of Sunday night’s game after calling a Tigers fan the T-word.

Del Dolemonte on October 15, 2013 at 6:26 PM

O’Donnell is like Hitler then with his Anti-Semitism . Right????

Southernblogger on October 15, 2013 at 6:27 PM

For goodness sakes liberals, leave the Washington Redskins/Daniel Snyder alone. It’s not your call. Most Americans don’t want the Skins to change the name. Most Native Americans don’t want to change the name. In the Skins’ 70+ history, there has never been any significant push to change the name. When fans dress up for the games and sing Hail to the Redskins, they are not trying to insult a minor group in this country. They are indirectly trying to honor them.

Frank T.J Mackey on October 15, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Why is this all of a sudden a big thing? I don’t get liberals really.

gophergirl on October 15, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Keep the team name, but change the logo to a red potato. Problem solved. Then these whining monkeys will have to circle wank to some other made up grievance.

locomotivebreath1901 on October 15, 2013 at 6:05 PM

They’re not pissed about the logo. They’re pissed about the name, but I thought you knew that. Your suggestion is like a Republican disease called Caveinitis.

timberline on October 15, 2013 at 6:33 PM

I just changed my name to Cracker and my kids to Wampum and TeePee Jr.

patman77 on October 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM

This issue is where you separate functional folks from those who live in bubbles. Redskins is the NFL franchise period. It is not a word anybody ever hears in the real world in any other context despite claims to the contrary. It is an iconic brand name no different than Coke, Nike or any others. Nobody is claiming that the name was meant in anyway to be offensive to Native Americans when created and there is no reason now to claim it is offensive just because the PC crowd has hijacked it for their own political purposes. Long live the Redskins.

Southernblogger on October 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM

No doubt they should change the name, it’s offensive to many. They should just be called “The Redskins”

JusDreamin on October 15, 2013 at 6:08 PM

QUICK…SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A CIGAR!

timberline on October 15, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Wasn’t it the democrats who cheered that evil racist George Wallace at the ’68 Democratic National Convention?

skeeterbite on October 15, 2013 at 6:39 PM

They’ve already starting to demand the Cleveland Indians change their name.

Curiously or not, the Atlanta Braves, with its connections to uber Prog, Ted Turner, have not been called upon to change their name.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Has the ginned up Redskins controversy replaced Trayvon? I vote for changing the mascot to a potato wearing a hoodie and then mooning the hysterical newly minted critics.

Mason on October 15, 2013 at 6:18 PM

You got it. The left must continually dredge up racial or race based attacks somewhere by someone on the right. Sometimes they just have to make stuff up when it isn’t really there.

Point in fact, if the dude at the Vet march with the Confederate Flag was really a Vet or someone on the right who supports Vets, he would have been hounded from the second anyone in the MSM saw him with that flag. Hell, they would have followed him to his car, wrote the license plate number down, ran a police check and we would know every single detail of his and his entire families life by now.

We would have been hearing about how he is in a militia and wants the South to secede again, blah, blah, etc.

There is a reason we don’t. He was a plant to stir $hit up.

Johnnyreb on October 15, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Are they going to force the teams for native american highschools with the the name “Redskins” change their names too? I don’t think anyone has indoctrinated them yet to think Redskin is an epithet.

gwelf on October 15, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Actually, they’ve been fighting that battle for many years already.
My HS in Maine was the Redskins – same logo as the Chicago Blackhawks and Wash Redskins.
I heard they changed the name to the Red Storm about 15 or 20 years ago – years after I graduated – and the logo was changed to some kind of red swirl.
I heard several years ago people started pushing to change it back because 1) some people thought Red Storm was too reminiscent of the Red Army, and therefore commie, and 2) Nobody could create any kind of mascot to go with the name.
But according to the school web site, they are still the Red Storm.

dentarthurdent on October 15, 2013 at 6:50 PM

gwelf on October 15, 2013 at 6:15 PM

dentarthurdent on October 15, 2013 at 6:50 PM

BTW – the town I’m from was the site of a famous Indian massacre (Indians killed a bunch of white settlers) back in the 1700s – hence the origin or at least the historical connection of the Redskins name for our HS.

dentarthurdent on October 15, 2013 at 6:54 PM

They’ve already starting to demand the Cleveland Indians change their name.

Curiously or not, the Atlanta Braves, with its connections to uber Prog, Ted Turner, have not been called upon to change their name.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM

I’ve always been curious as to why there is no similar push for Notre Dame to change the name of their team. Seems to me “Fighting Irish” plays into a very insulting stereotype of Irish people always looking for a fight….

dentarthurdent on October 15, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Faux outrage to take eyes off the clusterfark that is Obama and the Dems.

And you rubes – Bush created the name Redskins. Or Palin, can’t get them straight.

Odie1941 on October 15, 2013 at 7:01 PM

I don’t like the name Lawrence, only faggots and sailors are called Lawrence. From now on you’re Gomer Pyle. ~ Senior Drill Instructor Gunnery Sergeant Hartman

Good times…

Roy Rogers on October 15, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Seems to me “Fighting Irish” plays into a very insulting stereotype of Irish people always looking for a fight….

dentarthurdent on October 15, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Only when I’m not drunk or in Church – the two are not mutually exclusive.

Roy Rogers on October 15, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Has the ginned up Redskins controversy replaced Trayvon? I vote for changing the mascot to a potato wearing a hoodie and then mooning the hysterical newly minted critics.

Mason on October 15, 2013 at 6:18 PM

This. The left and the MSM will make things up just to keep the racial Redpublicans hate all Black people meme going.

Does anyone wonder what happened to that dude carrying the Confederate Flag at the Vet parade? If he had truly been a Vet or marching in support of Vets, the MSM would have tracked him down, followed him to his car, got his license number and ran a police check on him to find out who he was, ala Joe the Plumber. If he really was there in support of Vets or the right, we would know all about him, his name, his family, his income, what church he belongs to, we would have had interviews with his neighbors, where he works, etc.

They didn’t do that because he was a plant just to try and make the Vet March look bad.

Johnnyreb on October 15, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Reminder… George Wallace called himself a progressive.

mankai on October 15, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Change it to the D.C. Redskins.

deimos on October 15, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Oh my, Lawrence O’Donnell is a lot of bricks short of a load.
I wonder if he hates his mommy & daddy or his grandma & grandpa?

mmcnamer1 on October 15, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Seems to me “Fighting Irish” plays into a very insulting stereotype of Irish people always looking for a fight….

dentarthurdent on October 15, 2013 at 6:56 PM

No joke. But that’s ok, cause we’re white.

ALL of my Apache friends think we white guys are idiots for worrying about this. They could care less.

redshirt on October 15, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Honestly, that’s what’s bothering me the most about this. The charge to change the name is being lead primarily by a bunch of white men. At least gather some tribal leaders together for a photo op if you want to really push this story like Obama did with all the white coats.

I’m really sick of white people getting offended on behalf of minority groups.

Esthier on October 15, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Somewhere the owner of the Cleveland Indians is watching all this and wondering when it’ll be his turn, and who’ll decide when it is.

If the Indians owner is a Democrat contributor, as Synder is not, he will literally have nothing to worry about.

crrr6 on October 15, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Does the left not realize ( I can’t believe I am asking this) that sports monikers and mascots are meant to be honored, generally thought of as a symbol of power and glory, and are otherwise selected to show a sense of pride and commradery ? The Redskins, Braves, Indians, Saints, Giants, Yankees, Tigers, Sixers, 49ers, Bears, Packers Et al (but not the Red Sox, and no apologies) are meant as compliments. These names, with their implied and real meanings are a tribute. Only a dumb a$$ liberal would find offense where absolutely NONE was ever intentionally or not implied. And Bob Costas is a human sack full of shameful go along to get along.
PS if you list all the Team names you can you will find they represent a cross section of the human (animal, mineral and vegetable) condition that makes us unique, special and worthy. Again I say STFU Bob C and Co. You are morons, all.

evilcon555 on October 15, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Why is referring to the Washington D.C. NFL team as the Redskins so much worse than referring to MSNBC as a new channel?

JohnFLob on October 15, 2013 at 7:52 PM

So I guess he also thinks all the Native Americans in Red Mesa AZ are racist for having their 90% native American High School named the Redskins.

When are we gonna change the name of Oklahoma? It also means red skins/red people.

The Notorious G.O.P on October 15, 2013 at 7:53 PM

If the Redskins simply drop ‘Washington’ from their name, they will certainly be a lot less offensive. I suppose it would be too much to hope for that PMSNBC’s lineup to change their name to The Douche Nozzle Collective’ since I am offended by them every time I see one of their fugly mugs. Wait, I know, perhaps we should just change all of those sexist, racist, bigot, homophobic team’s names to BINGO NUMBERS! Just image the team spirit in the cheers, Rah, Rah, Rah, Sis Boom Bah, Gooooooooooo N42!!!!!!

ghostwalker1 on October 15, 2013 at 7:53 PM

There is a reason we don’t. He was a plant to stir $hit up.

Johnnyreb on October 15, 2013 at 6:44 PM


Good damn point.

ExpressoBold on October 15, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Lawrence O’Donnell … didn’t he play football for Vassar?

Missilengr on October 15, 2013 at 8:03 PM

didn’t he play football for Vassar?

Missilengr on October 15, 2013 at 8:03 PM


Field hockey… in a pleated skirt.

ExpressoBold on October 15, 2013 at 8:13 PM

I recall an attempt by the LIVeral-Progs to force Florida State to drop “Seminole’s” as their mascot.
The ‘Noles’ is a financial POWER HOUSE in Tallahassee. The local Seminole Indians are more than happy to have that honorable university. In a nutshell, they were told to GFYS. Not unlike an effort from the same Gimmedats to force a name change on the Atlanta Braves. Yea, GFYS.

Missilengr on October 15, 2013 at 8:15 PM

This is simply part of operation “Let’s talk about anything right now but ObamaCare.”

supersport667 on October 15, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Supersport667

Nail. Head

evilcon555 on October 15, 2013 at 8:18 PM

When they get back to the un-serious, perhaps the “Anacostia Deficits” would be better than “Washington Redskins” (composed of two pejoratives, I’m told).

Besides, in DC, except for Ted Cruz, everybody loves a deficit.

J_Crater on October 15, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Change it to the D.C. Redskins.

deimos on October 15, 2013 at 7:11 PM

DC Thinskins.

patman77 on October 15, 2013 at 8:33 PM

What about the Chicago BlackHawks ?
They aren’t ‘t named after a helicopter.

J_Crater on October 15, 2013 at 8:44 PM

They’ve already starting to demand the Cleveland Indians change their name.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Well I find the Cleveland Browns far more offensive.

John the Libertarian on October 15, 2013 at 8:57 PM

What about the Chicago BlackHawks?

J_Crater on October 15, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Up 2-1, midway in the 3rd period…

Jaibones on October 15, 2013 at 9:16 PM

If Andrew Breitbart’s inspiration has any power left, someone is frantically searching 30 years of video to compile a 5 minute video which consists solely of Crazy Larry and Midget Bob saying “Redskins” on live television, over and over and over.

Jaibones on October 15, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Says the Commie fag with no audience.

RdLake on October 15, 2013 at 9:19 PM

If the Foreskins were 6-0, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

It’s Daniel Snyder’s team. He can call them anything he wants. Personally, as a Bronco fan, I think the Washington Vaginas has a certain ring to it.

NoPain on October 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I think they should change their name to the Washington Vaginas.

NoPain on October 15, 2013 at 9:40 PM

If the Foreskins were 6-0, this conversation wouldn’t be happening.

It’s Daniel Snyder’s team. He can call them whatever he wants. How about the Washington V*ginas?

NoPain on October 15, 2013 at 9:46 PM

I checked our archives to see when our own blogging about the anti-”Redskins” movement began. Could be that this subject, which has been percolating for ages, reached full boil on the left a long time ago, but if it did, we missed it

Oh LaShawn Barber and Baldilocks kicked it around a few times in early 2000s when Russell Means and other bonafide Indians said they didn’t give a hoot about that or the Brave moniker.

AH_C on October 15, 2013 at 9:48 PM

If Obama had a team, it would look like the Buccaneers.

NoPain on October 15, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Snyder should shop around for a friendly city,make a deal and move away from democrat congress critters.

docflash on October 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM

If I’m not mistaken, the “Redskins have been the “Redskins” for OD’s entire life. Probably before the life of whatever male donated sperm to his mother.

I’m thinking indignation is not his motivation.

WestTexasBirdDog on October 15, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Dear Bob Costas: Please make the name of the team more racist to offend these Autistic lunatics even more.

If there was a Black team called the [place-name here] Whiteskins there would be no media outcry WHATSOEVER.

The Nerve on October 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Lawrence O’Donnell: “Redskins” owner is the new George Wallace or something

He’s another racist Democrat, what’s new?

RJL on October 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Come, come now. LOD has proclaimed “The Last Word”.

Kneel before LOD !!

dissent555 on October 16, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Cowboys: ok
Indians: no

Yay. We win.

Ronnie on October 16, 2013 at 1:14 AM

On the air, self proclaimed Socialist. All these sissies want to do is rewrite history.

RdLake on October 16, 2013 at 6:49 AM

As always its a non issue that nobody cared about
until obama shot off his fat mouth

so as good little brown shirters they are the msnbc folks
now declare the owner of the team as an evil racist of some type.

maybe lawrence will get a cookie with his second glass of koolaid

sniffles1999 on October 16, 2013 at 8:26 AM

The US military helicopter inventory includes Iroqouis, Apache, Chinook, and Lakota choppers. Why does the Obama administration allow this travesty to continue? It’s like Obama is the new…George Wallace or something.

And the Black Hawk? Well, that’s just celebrating slavery.

Trafalgar on October 16, 2013 at 8:41 AM

If the team’s name is a term of derision, and that offends flaming lefties, let’s change the name to something more suitable for the region.

Let’s call them the Washington Flaming Lefties.

applebutter on October 16, 2013 at 9:06 AM

How about the San Antonio Redskins? That would be an effective name change.

applebutter on October 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM

I’d love to be compared to George Wallace. He’s a funny man.

db on October 16, 2013 at 9:10 AM

We won and the redskins lost. They’ve done the same thing to Columbus.

Kissmygrits on October 16, 2013 at 9:47 AM

I refuse to use the term native american because they are no more native than I am. Genetics has shown that they were originally from Asia and crossed what was called the Bering land bridge and moved south.

Research on blood types, confirmed by later linguistic and DNA findings, suggests that the ancestors of American Indians reached North America before the ancestors of the Eskimo and Aleut. There appear to have been several waves of migration from Siberia to the Americas by way of the Bering land bridge. ~ Wikipedia

Same reason I won’t use african american, asian american, etc. Paranoid activists in search of a grievance…

Big John on October 16, 2013 at 2:29 PM

It’s very odd the network feels they have to do this to counter Fox. First make an exaggerated cartoon of O’reilly then produce a counter doubly over exaggerated cartoon of their own and put it up no matter what. It’s a very odd rut to be stuck in. And there is already the cartoon antiO’reilly bell end on Jon Stewart. And there is already the dark dressed little boy with glasses that lived. And there are already morning shows with women to dramatically stomp off indignantly because they cannot bear another word. Off their own show.

bour3 on October 16, 2013 at 4:16 PM

“So the MSNBC Channel is the new Comedy Channel”
No, No, No, MSNBC was a joke from conception.

savage24 on October 16, 2013 at 9:45 PM