Hunger protest prompted US to bring AQ terrorist to New York

posted at 2:41 pm on October 15, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Reuters answers the mystery of why the US took Abu Anas al-Libi to New York so quickly after his ambush and capture in Libya. The chief suspect in the 1998 al-Qaeda bombings of US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya had been taken aboard a Navy vessel, one of the “floating Gitmos” that have replaced the detention center at Guantanamo Bay and CIA “black sites” for interrogating captured terrorists.  His abrupt arrival in New York might have indicated that interrogators had extracted enough valuable data to allow them to turn the AQ terrorist over to the Department of Justice.  Instead, it seems that al-Libi pulled a high-stakes bluff that worked:

An elite U.S. interrogation team abandoned its questioning of an al-Qaeda militant who was snatched in Libya after he stopped eating and drinking regularly on board a U.S. Navy ship where he was being held, a U.S. official familiar with the matter said.

As his health deteriorated, U.S. authorities decided to fly the suspect known as Abu Anas al-Liby to New York last weekend, where he was taken to a hospital for treatment. …

Upon arrival in the United States, al-Liby became subject to the rules of the civilian American court system. That means he can no longer be interrogated without being advised of his constitutional right to avoid incriminating himself, the official said.

Last week, U.S. officials said one of the principal reasons U.S. Delta Force commandos staged a risky raid to capture al-Liby at his Tripoli residence was so the United States could gather intelligence from the former senior operative of the core al Qaeda organization founded by Osama bin Laden.

This is why keeping the actual Gitmo would come in handy. The terrorist didn’t get extradited through diplomatic or law-enforcement channels, but was captured in a military/intelligence operation.  That follows on the 2001 AUMF in which Congress authorized the White House to attack al-Qaeda and its allies as a war rather than an investigation and prosecution.  In that paradigm, al-Libi can and should be handled as an illegal combatant in the military commissions that Congress has repeatedly authorized and which the Obama administration is now operating.

The White House tried to have it both ways, and ended up with a bit of egg on their face.  They won’t take captured terrorists to Gitmo because they don’t want to admit that Gitmo is necessary.  At the same time, the administration is now using Navy vessels for the same purposes as Gitmo on a temporary basis.  This time the detainee calculated that the Pentagon and the White House wouldn’t want to explain how a captured terrorist died during questioning and that they would take him to the US and the civil court system rather than Gitmo, where intel interrogators would pursue him indefinitely.

He won that bet, apparently, and now every subsequent capture will play out along the same arc. That may not make a great deal of difference in prosecuting al-Libi, where the 1998 court case has long been established and solid.  It will make a difference in gathering enough intel to prevent future terrorist attacks against America and its interests.


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gwelf on October 15, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Am I the only one in the US has pulled all of his hair out and called Obozo every name in the book? I am going crazy, crazy I tell you! I can’t take this country anymore. Help, help, help!

hip shot on October 15, 2013 at 2:44 PM

You know what? If a terrorist doesn’t want to eat, you should only have two choices: Either force-feed him or let him starve and save us the millions of dollars we would otherwise have spent prosecuting him.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2013 at 2:48 PM

It would be nice if the White House could explain what the difference is between Gitmo and these floating Gitmos. But Obama never has to explain anything and the MSM will conveniently forget to ask.

Bitter Clinger on October 15, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Obimbo thinks “game theory” is when he tries to guess where Malea left the ConnectFour.

I can’t wait for him to be gone, but I feel for the President who has to follow this pinhead. He’s going to spend years trying to demonstrate to the world that we’re not led by a moron anymore.

Well, unless Biden wins, then I’d say we’re all set.

SoRight on October 15, 2013 at 2:52 PM

if you didnt just see it…
BHO just gave The Medal of Honor to a young Hero..
you could just tell by the look on BHO’s face
he did NOT like sharing the spotlight…pos..

Thank you Captain William D. Swenson for your service to this Nation…

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 2:54 PM

This time the detainee calculated that the Pentagon and the White House wouldn’t want to explain how a captured terrorist died during questioning and that they would take him to the US and the civil court system rather than Gitmo, where intel interrogators would pursue him indefinitely.

Ya know, I don’t see how this is any worse a situation than droning these SOB’s. Letting him starve himself would save us on food and medical expenses, not to mention the savings of not having to go to trial, and if the SOB thinks he’s getting his 72 virgins for this, let him. I call it a “win-win”.

Bitter Clinger on October 15, 2013 at 2:55 PM

I heard this morning that this piece of garbage was in our country…great move allowing him to play games to get on US soil.

ellifint on October 15, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Hunger strike? Who cares? Force feed him or cook some bacon in front of him, he’ll eat. Now the circus will start. What kook lawyer will take this case? He for sure won’t talk now and even if they convict him he will either be a rallying point for terrorists or a martyr. These guys are so freaking stupid.

major dad on October 15, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Why don’t they buy him some tickets for third row center seats at “Wicked” while they are at it? /s 8-|

totherightofthem on October 15, 2013 at 3:06 PM

He’s such old news, we wouldn’t have missed him if something had happened on board the ship.

Kissmygrits on October 15, 2013 at 3:07 PM

the detainee calculated that the Pentagon and the White House wouldn’t want to explain how a captured terrorist died during questioning

Why not just strap him to a hospital bed for a couple hours each morning and stick an IV needle in his arm? They could hydrate him and give him liquid nutrients through the IV, and keep him alive for as long as they needed to question him.

Surely they have a medic on board ship who can handle this. It doesn’t require a hospital or a doctor.

AZCoyote on October 15, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Hunger strike? Who cares? Force feed him or cook some bacon in front of him, he’ll eat. Now the circus will start. What kook lawyer will take this case? He for sure won’t talk now and even if they convict him he will either be a rallying point for terrorists or a martyr. These guys are so freaking stupid.

major dad on October 15, 2013 at 3:03 PM

mmmm, bacon

davidk on October 15, 2013 at 3:11 PM

We are a country of wimps. We could have force fed him and force interrrogated him.
What would Putin have done?

GaltBlvnAtty on October 15, 2013 at 3:12 PM

The only surprise for me is it took this long for this administration to capitulate to him.

D-fusit on October 15, 2013 at 3:21 PM

What kook lawyer will take this case?

major dad on October 15, 2013 at 3:03 PM

They will be lining up and fighting for this case.The US taxpayer is footing the bill.There are thousands of motions to file and reams of paper to be used to stretch this payday out.I would bet the farm it will be an Obama supporter that gets the case.

docflash on October 15, 2013 at 3:25 PM

BS excuse, just more lies. Obviously they could have strapped his ass down and fed him intravenously if they chose. Obama & Holder wanted him in the US facing criminal charges in federal court before public resistance to the idea could become politically problematic.

This guy should have gone straight to Gitmo for extended interrogation. He should have been wrung out like a dirty wet towel until every last scrap of intel had been extracted.

But Obama’s personal political agendas trump national security. As always.

novaculus on October 15, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Pwnd by a terrorist.

Hill60 on October 15, 2013 at 3:31 PM

It is not our responsibility to FORCE-FEED a terrorist. If he wants to starve himself to death, I say lock him in a room with a bunch of food and test his willpower. $crew him!

easyt65 on October 15, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Keel haul him.

Missilengr on October 15, 2013 at 3:57 PM

You know what? If a terrorist doesn’t want to eat, you should only have two choices: Either force-feed him or let him starve and save us the millions of dollars we would otherwise have spent prosecuting him.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2013 at 2:48 PM

I favor giving him a side dish of rope with his dinner.
Let him choose whether to eat, starve, or use the rope….

dentarthurdent on October 15, 2013 at 4:02 PM

It is not our responsibility to FORCE-FEED a terrorist. If he wants to starve himself to death, I say lock him in a room with a bunch of food and test his willpower. $crew him!
easyt65 on October 15, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Liberals will be upset with your idea….

better just cut out his heart and feed it to him…

Gotta keep those libs happy..

BigSven on October 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Why don’t they buy him some tickets for third row center seats at “Wicked” while they are at it? /s 8-|

totherightofthem on October 15, 2013 at 3:06 PM

That would be cruel and unusual punishment.
However, maybe we could strap him in a chair and put “Fiddler on the Roof” on a continuous loop….

dentarthurdent on October 15, 2013 at 4:05 PM

This time the detainee calculated that the Pentagon and the White House wouldn’t want to explain how a captured terrorist died during questioning….

What? No, he escaped, and died when he went overboard into shark-infested waters. Honest. I just looked away for a second. No, I don’t think he’ll turn up anywhere – for some reason, he grabbed a toolbox full of lead weights just before he jumped overboard, and zip-tied it to his wrist. No idea what happened to him.

GWB on October 15, 2013 at 4:05 PM

What would Putin have done?
GaltBlvnAtty on October 15, 2013 at 3:12 PM

What happens in the Lubyanka, stays in the Lubyanka…

CPT. Charles on October 15, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Darn religion hijackers. Why do they pick peaceful Islam? Why not Scientology or the Jehovahs Witnesses?

BL@KBIRD on October 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM

It is not our responsibility to FORCE-FEED a terrorist. If he wants to starve himself to death, I say lock him in a room with a bunch of food and test his willpower. $crew him!

easyt65 on October 15, 2013 at 3:48 PM

this

DarkCurrent on October 15, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I think once we got out of him whatever information we were going to get, we should have just gone ahead and released him.

And then, second look at drones?

pain train on October 15, 2013 at 4:38 PM

You know what? If a terrorist doesn’t want to eat, you should only have two choices: Either force-feed him or let him starve and save us the millions of dollars we would otherwise have spent prosecuting him.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2013 at 2:48 PM

It is also quite easy to fall off a ship. And the ocean is vast.

katy the mean old lady on October 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Hmmmm……..evidently there are no MILITARY hospitals that could handle this piece of scum.

What a load of bovine excrement!

No Balls Barry now has a prime terrorist just where he wants him, in a civilian court.

GarandFan on October 15, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Needs moar lead in his diet.

BigWyo on October 15, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Hillary Clinton Busily Putting Out the Word that Joe Biden, Likely Rival for 2016 Nomination, Opposed the Raid that Got Bin Ladin

Resist We Much on October 15, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Hmmm… I wonder if she supported the raid that nailed those responsible for the deaths of the four Americans at Benghazi. Oh, wait. Never mind.

Hill60 on October 15, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Hillary Clinton Busily Putting Out the Word that Joe Biden, Likely Rival for 2016 Nomination, Opposed the Raid that Got Bin Ladin

Resist We Much on October 15, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Hmmm… I wonder if she supported the raid that nailed those responsible for the deaths of the four Americans at Benghazi. Oh, wait. Never mind.

Hill60 on October 15, 2013 at 6:31 PM

I’m sure Joke knows lots of dirt on Hill too, but who will the REB give the NSA files to?

slickwillie2001 on October 15, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Slipped off the ship?

StevC on October 15, 2013 at 6:50 PM

The should have introduced him to the fad of planking, and he could have eaten plankton.

Marcola on October 15, 2013 at 6:58 PM

You mean Obama once again shot off his mouth and as a result crippled our anti-terror efforts?

OxyCon on October 15, 2013 at 8:03 PM

This monster deserves none of our rights….This does make me pretty upset but it comes as no surprise. A jihadist attack is the same as stealing something in democrats eyes. Idiots. All of them.

sadsushi on October 15, 2013 at 8:13 PM

… and the MSM will conveniently forget to ask.

Bitter Clinger on October 15, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Philistines upon you, America!

And I’m referring to the media.

Shy Guy on October 16, 2013 at 5:25 AM