Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on October 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

So two weeks in, here’s where we’re at: Many and perhaps most users can’t even get into the federal exchange system. Those who can are often stymied by errors, and can’t trust that any subsidized insurance prices they see will be accurate. And then, even if they do manage to get all the way through the system, their applications may not transmit properly to the insurers from whom they are trying to purchase insurance. In short, nothing works. It’s a failure at every level

In order for coverage to start on January 1, individuals will have to complete applications by December 15. And in order to avoid the law’s penalty for remaining uninsured, they’ll have to be enrolled by February 15 of next year—not the end of March.

In other words, the administration doesn’t really have six months to fix problems with the exchanges. Political pressure will build well before the end of March. If there isn’t significant progress in a fairly short period of time, I suspect we’ll start to see a lot more supporters begin to question the law, or at least start to wonder aloud about what to do with a health care overhaul that simply doesn’t work.

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In the months before the launch almost every senior member of the Obama administration had a little calendar board tacked up in a prominent spot in their office. “75 days until Obamacare” it would say. The next morning they would tear off the page. “74 days until Obamacare” it would say. The message — to them and to their visitors — was clear: This was the White House’s top priority.

We’re now negative 14 days until the Affordable Care Act and most people still can’t purchase insurance. The magnitude of this failure is stunning. Yes, the federal health-care law is a complicated project, government IT rules are a mess, and the scrutiny has been overwhelming. But the Obama administration knew all that going in. They should’ve been able to build an online portal that works.

Early on, President Obama like to compare the launch of the Affordable Care Act to Apple launching a new product. Can you imagine how many people Steve Jobs would’ve fired by now if he’d launched a new product like this?

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Is there someone in the federal government who will be held accountable for the fact that many Americans are still encountering problems as they seek to sign up for insurance on the federal exchange?

Administration officials, who could not be reached immediately for comment, have not identified which officials at Health and Human Services were directly in charge of the new computer enrollment system, or which companies are most involved with fixing it now. Both GCI Federal and Quality Software Services Inc. helped construct the Web site and data hub, respectively…

“Despite our warnings that the law was not ready for prime time, the administration repeatedly brushed us off, proclaiming everything was ‘on track,” said House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton in a statement Monday. “The first two weeks of enrollment have been a nightmare, and we now know despite over three years to prepare, the administration was in over its head. After hundreds of millions of dollars spent on a shoddy website and numerous broken promises, the American people deserve answers, and we are going to get to the bottom of this mess in the coming weeks.”

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“Healthcare.gov was initially going to include an option to browse before registering,” report Christopher Weaver and Louise Radnofsky in the Wall Street Journal. “But that tool was delayed, people familiar with the situation said.” Why was it delayed? “An HHS spokeswoman said the agency wanted to ensure that users were aware of their eligibility for subsidies that could help pay for coverage, before they started seeing the prices of policies.” (Emphasis added.)…

The answer is that Obamacare wasn’t designed to help healthy people with average incomes get health insurance. It was designed to force those people to pay more for coverage, in order to subsidize insurance for people with incomes near the poverty line, and those with chronic or costly medical conditions.

But the laws’ supporters and enforcers don’t want you to know that, because it would violate the President’s incessantly repeated promise that nothing would change for the people that Obamacare doesn’t directly help. If you shop for Obamacare-based coverage without knowing if you qualify for subsidies, you might be discouraged by the law’s steep costs…

This political objective—masking the true underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans—far outweighed the operational objective of making the federal website work properly. Think about it the other way around. If the “Affordable Care Act” truly did make health insurance more affordable, there would be no need to hide these prices from the public.

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The functional failures of the Affordable Care Act websites are well-documented, but the fundamental flaw is the law’s mind-numbing complexity. The officials who planned ObamaCare blame their Web engineers, but they’re passing the buck. ObamaCare is a hugely complicated approach to addressing problems in health care that have simpler solutions.

Software glitches are no surprise with such a complex system. For example, signing up uses a Byzantine process to check if a family is entitled to a subsidy, requiring data from dozens of federal and state agencies using databases built on different technology platforms…

These include Medicaid to determine eligibility, the Internal Revenue Service to determine insurance-premium subsidies based on income, and Homeland Security to confirm citizenship. To make sure the family isn’t covered elsewhere, the sites have to retrieve data from the Veterans Health Administration, the Office of Personnel Management and state Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Programs. Assuming a family is cleared and purchases a plan, the information has to be handed off cleanly to an insurance company.

The Government Accountability Office last year calculated that for the IRS alone, implementing ObamaCare would be a “massive undertaking that involves 47 different statutory provisions and extensive coordination.”

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“I think we have missed a big issue. I don’t think there’s any question that this whole shutdown episode has covered for the bad rollout of ObamaCare,” said Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), an ally of Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). “A lot of us warned that.”…

In many ways, this was the “train wreck” that Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) was actually talking about — a botched implementation that obscured the law’s coverage options.

But Obama didn’t receive a single question about the snafus at a news conference last week, despite an appearance before reporters that lasted more than an hour…

“I think we can fight the problems with ObamaCare in a more intelligent way than we have, and actually get some success out of it,” Rep. Charles Boustany (R-La.), another leadership ally, told reporters. “But we are where we are.”

***

Back in the first week of the month, I was in Philadelphia and someone asked me if the reason HealthCare.gov wasn’t working was that the people running the site were furloughed because of the shutdown. I explained that no that isn’t the case and these are just two unrelated things that happened the same week in politics. Then in Cleveland last week a cab driver who found I was coming from DC explained to me how outrageous he thought it was that Republicans had shut down the websites that would have let him sign up for health insurance. And a bartender told me the GOP is getting what it wants out of the shutdown—Obamacare isn’t launching.

Which is to say that I think a large share of people don’t realize that this problems with the Affordable Care Act IT infrastructure have very little to do with Republicans and basically nothing to do with the shutdown.

After all, it’s confusing. Republicans did shut the government down. They did shut the government down in order to stop Obamacare. The shutdown came on the same week that Obamacare’s websites were supposed to launch. And for many people, the websites are not in fact working. So it’s natural—but wrong—to think that the non-functionality of the websites is the shutdown. It seems to be the case that many grassroots conservatives believed, pre-shutdown, that the Ted Cruz strategy could actually prevent Obamacare from launching. And now it seems to be the case that many grassroots liberals believe, in the wake of the botched website launch, that it’s Ted Cruz rather than IT contractors and their overseers in the administration who’ve screwed things up.

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Once the administration figures out its technical issues, as it presumably will, Obamacare will move into the sticker-shock phase, as millions of Americans discover they will pay higher premiums, or higher deductibles, or both, for the same type of insurance they had before Obamacare. The Republican campaign would go all-out to inform Americans that that is on the way. And at every step, the GOP would play Obama’s promise: If you like your health coverage, you can keep it…

But it didn’t happen. The GOP chose instead to embark on its ill-fated drive to defund Obamacare. When that failed, Republicans made progressively weaker demands that the White House delay or somehow limit Obamacare, and those failed, too. In the meantime, the Republican effort has led to a partial shutdown of the government, now nearly two weeks old. And the shutdown battle has morphed into a fight over the debt limit and the possibility the nation will default on its debts next Thursday…

Instead of pounding Obama on the mandates, defects, false promises, and expense of Obamacare, Republicans ended up pounding themselves.

Of course the GOP will have more chances to fight Obamacare in the future. Long after a continuing resolution has been passed and the debt limit raised, Obamacare will still be a major, and for many unwelcome, factor in American life. But what an opportunity missed, at such a crucial time.

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Via RCP.

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Via the Daily Rushbo.


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But at least the unions (and only because there isn’t enough time to exclude them, others with group health insurance) will get a fresh 1-year exemption from their taxes.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 10:03 PM

You have to buy Obamacare first, before you see what it covers.

/channeling Pelosi

Wino on October 14, 2013 at 10:04 PM

MYTH:

a fight over the debt limit and the possibility the nation will default on its debts next Thursday…

TRUTH:

Why Default Won’t Happen

ITguy on October 14, 2013 at 10:04 PM

‘Toons of the Day: ‘The First Thing We Do, Let’s Kill All The Politicians’

Ed: It’s a word play on Henry the Sixth.

Resist We Much on October 14, 2013 at 10:05 PM

When the walls…come tumblin’ down

predator on October 14, 2013 at 10:05 PM

In the months before the launch almost every senior member of the Obama administration had a little calendar board tacked up in a prominent spot in their office. “75 days until Obamacare” it would say. The next morning they would tear off the page. “74 days until Obamacare” it would say.

How much time and preparation did it take for the administration to put together a calendar like this compared to the amount of planning it took to throw up a crappy Healthcare.gov website?

Obama & Co. have always worried more about appearances (polling for everything he does) versus doing a job right no matter what people think of him.

Pathetic.

VibrioCocci on October 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Working flawlessly.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Can you imagine the State Run Media coverage if a law this size and this screwed up was passed in a Conseravtive administration…?

d1carter on October 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Negotiate a rise in the debt ceiling, fine.

But the govt shutdown and the funding of Obamacare is a separate issue. Negotiate the shutdown issue separately… on another day. Nothing reopens the govt that funds Obamacare.

Don’t fund Obamacare!

anotherJoe on October 14, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Why Default Won’t Happen

ITguy on October 14, 2013 at 10:04 PM

I like Dean Clancy, but he makes a fatal assumption that Teh SCOAMT gives a flying Fluke what the Constitution demands of him, or of math for that matter.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Working flawlessly.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Posted to you on another thread but you were already gone.

I sent you an email about a half-hour ago. :)

predator on October 14, 2013 at 10:08 PM

At least as well as the thirty year old GE dryer that just broke on me.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:09 PM

predator on October 14, 2013 at 10:08 PM

; ) Got it. Made me laugh.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:11 PM

At least as well as the thirty year old GE dryer that just broke on me.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:09 PM

You mean Government Electric?

Good evening.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Pic of the Day: This Is What Democracy Looks Like In Obama’s Amerika

Resist We Much on October 14, 2013 at 10:03 PM

In the age of Obama: the military and veterans are out; life-long welfare recipients and illegal aliens are in.

bw222 on October 14, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Pic of the Day: This Is What Democracy Looks Like In Obama’s Amerika

Resist We Much on October 14, 2013 at 10:03 PM

If a picture is worth a thousand words, these pics you have posted are worth a million. Thanks, S.

TXUS on October 14, 2013 at 10:15 PM

After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: pay-as-you-go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.

- New Speaker Nancy Pelosi, 01/04/2007

Pelosi and the Democrats (including then-Senators Obama, Biden, Clinton, Kerry, Reid, etc.) inherited the FY 2007 budget with a deficit less than $161 Billion and a fiscal-year-end total debt that was 64.6% of GDP.

Now, after six years of Democrats having majority control, at Fiscal year-end 2013 (9/30/2013) the White House OMB estimates that our debt is 106.5% of GDP.

You know what we need now?
Exactly what the Democrats promised then.

NO NEW DEFICIT SPENDING!

Exausting the “Extraordinary Measures” without raising the debt limit FORCES a de facto balanced budget. Treasury will not be allowed to spend more than it takes in.

ITguy on October 14, 2013 at 10:17 PM

“Exempt America”-LOL, awesome sign.

Meanwhile, everything’s just hunky-dory in Europe:

Swiss army simulates French attack in training

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 14, 2013 at 10:21 PM

WHAT!!!

The government is shutdown??????

Didn’t notice.

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 10:28 PM

America falls from within. Not surprising.

SouthernGent on October 14, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Wait until Americans find out about this while they search for a way to pay for their VERY COSTLY new Obamacare insurance:

Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal

All f*cking pigs are equal, but some f*cking pigs are more equal than others.

Resist We Much on October 14, 2013 at 10:29 PM

I disagree. Absent the shut down, the obamamedia would have been full on defending the roll out, highlighting any tiny success they could find, and covering for its utter failure at every turn. As it stands, though, they were so busy blaming Republicans for the shut down they let too much of the o-care failure pierce through the narrative. The failure is out there. It’s real. It’s epic. It’s unprecedented. And everyone knows it. The media will have a much, much harder time dialing that back when the shut down story fades. They will be pining for more shut down stories, trying to keep THAT alive, as the o-care train wreck takes center stage with absolutely everyone already knowing it is a total fail. The obamamedia’s efforts to shore it up now will come off as pathetic.

Rational Thought on October 14, 2013 at 10:30 PM

From Bluestocking at freerepublic:

If it weren’t for ObamaCare, Nancy Pelosi would still be Speaker of the House.

And if ObamaCare isn’t completely repealed, Nancy Pelosi will never be Speaker of the House again.

The Democrats are destroying themselves by refusing to negotiate an end to the monster they’ve created. Nancy and Harry should be in Obama’s office every day, pleading with him to at least delay the personal mandate for a year, so that the registration fiasco that’s been a growing embarrassment for two weeks can end. But they seem too idiotic to even consider such a thing.

anotherJoe on October 14, 2013 at 10:32 PM

WARNING!

Danger Will Robinson!

There is a very addictive thing out there in the interwebs!

I have discovered how to sync Youtube to my computer, big screen and sound system. Set up a playlist on the computer and it plays nice and loud with a big clear picture. Well, as clear as the uploaded video.

No more pining for the old MTV. Except for maybe Martha Quinn and Nina Blackwood. And a little Julie Brown.

It’s even better than my old Jukebox.

Oh, crap. I ain’t gonna’ get much done this week.

cozmo on October 14, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Evening Steve. A wee bit before that acquisition. Lolz. Dang trouble comes in 3 they say. Well this is the third trouble in exactly one week.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:34 PM

In many ways, this was the “train wreck” that Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) was actually talking about — a botched implementation that obscured the law’s coverage options.

But Obama didn’t receive a single question about the snafus at a news conference last week, despite an appearance before reporters that lasted more than an hour…

…and Republicans….are sleeping!

KOOLAID2 on October 14, 2013 at 10:34 PM

US debt ceiling debate 2013
US government funding debate 2013

Sen. Cruz, R-Texas: Waiting to decide if he’d block vote on Senate deal – @politico

2 mins ago from http://www.politico.com by editor
==============================================

Ted Cruz: Unsure if he’d block vote on Senate deal
By BURGESS EVERETT | 10/14/13 6:31 PM EDT
*****************************************

Ted Cruz is waiting to decide whether to hold up a potential deal in the Senate that would reopen the government and avert a breach of the debt ceiling.

With the debt limit deadline looming Thursday and quick Senate action needed to beat it, Cruz would not divulge whether he’d allow a quick vote on an emerging deal to reopen government and raise the debt ceiling. Bypassing Senate rules that would slow the voting process requires the consent of every member of the chamber, which will be critical this week to avoid a panic in the markets over potentially missing the debt ceiling deadline.

“We need to see what the details are,” Cruz said when asked whether he’d move to delay a vote past Thursday.
(More…………….)
=======================

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/ted-cruz-senate-deal-vote-government-shutdown-debt-ceiling-98291.html

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 10:28 PM

If I check continuity between terminals on a dryer part and there is no continuity. Bad part right?

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:36 PM

In the weeks leading up to the launch I heard some very ugly things about how the system was performing when transferring data to insurers — a necessary step if people are actually going to get insurance. I tried hard to pin the rumors down, but I could never quite nail the story, and there was a wall of official denials from the Obama administration. It was just testing, they said. They were fixing the bugs day by day.

i’m glad that fanboy Ezra is starting to peel back the curtain…but it is real funny how he cites our friend Byron York stupid piece about alternate history.

you see…the problem with alternate histories is that they often assume things not in evidence. No leftist is going to let the Rs in on the dirty secret, no. So they can’t wait and see what happens…now can they. Thats the story Byron is selling..the Rs passively play the wait and see game…and somehow it works out great for them.

Byron doesn’t remember the press during bengahzi does he. The press can’t ask questions of prezy…because the Rs haven’t made it a campaign issue. Right

N.B. to Byron….IT IS ALWAYS THE R’s FAULT

so to Byron and his buddies at NRO…do you guys know that monday morning quarter-backing is a low-level game…takes no brains to do that

r keller on October 14, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Software glitches are no surprise with such a complex system.

The coders need to pass the code to see what’s in it.

whatcat on October 14, 2013 at 10:39 PM

WHAT!!!

The government is shutdown??????

Didn’t notice.

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Unless you were trying to get to an open-air park, you didn’t personally notice. If you were watching ABCCBSNBCCNNPMSDNC, you didn’t notice either.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Put that in your pipe and smoke it hosers.

Opps sorry. I thought I was on d-koz

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Instead of pounding Obama on the mandates, defects, false promises, and expense of Obamacare, Republicans ended up pounding themselves.
===================================================================

Well, on the bright-side, there not tapping!
(sarc)

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Put that in your pipe and smoke it hosers.

Opps sorry. I thought I was on d-koz

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Canadian sharks bite your legs off and then take off.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 10:44 PM

I had to clean troll blood off of her toes. I’m talking about RWMs toes.

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Ya know, if it was Democrat Porn,
there would be no glitchy’s,

jus say’n!!

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Troll guts also.

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 10:46 PM

reopen the government and avert a breach of the debt ceiling.

The debt ceiling was breached in MAY. The Treasury has been borrowing additional money for MONTHS using the shell game of “Extraordinary Measures”.

ITguy on October 14, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Canadian sharks bite your legs off and then take off.
Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Come on hosers top this one.

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Resist We Much on October 14, 2013 at 10:29 PM

….you’re on fire!

KOOLAID2 on October 14, 2013 at 10:47 PM

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Gave bayam your bunny vid today. ; )

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM

The debt ceiling was breached in MAY. The Treasury has been borrowing additional money for MONTHS using the shell game of “Extraordinary Measures”.

ITguy on October 14, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Shh don’t say the facts out loud. The NSA might term

nobar on October 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM

If I check continuity between terminals on a dryer part and there is no continuity. Bad part right?

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Or you didn’t wait for the ObamaCare webpage to update…

It takes time to have continuity…:)

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Deliciously cruel you are.

*clink*

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM

MeanWhile,…earlier:

US government shutdown impact 2013
US government funding debate 2013

House approves 233-160 latest mini-spending bill for government shutdown – $6.6 billion for Native American programs – @ChadPergram

3 hours ago from twitter.com/ChadPergram by editor
======================================================

ROLL CALL:

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 548
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)

H J RES 80 RECORDED VOTE 14-Oct-2013 7:03 PM
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: Making continuing appropriations for the Bureau of Indian Affairs, the Bureau of Indian Education, and the Indian Health Service for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll548.xml

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM

OT question for our Texas folks.
If Wendy Davis gets the Dem nomination for Gov. and loses
does she also lose her house seat?

conservative tarheel on October 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM

After hundreds of millions of dollars spent on a shoddy website and numerous broken promises, the American people deserve answers, and we are going to get to the bottom of this mess in the coming weeks.”

We know who’s responsible: Washington DC. Either shut down Obamacare or shut down Washington DC!

FloatingRock on October 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Not surprising that the lefties believe that union Americans are the only ones out here. Sigh.

pambi on October 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM

WHAT!!!

The government is shutdown??????

Didn’t notice.

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 10:28 PM

**whispers softly **
Don’t say that , NSA will tell that to Hussein and then…….

burrata on October 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM

I’m reminded of Milton Friedman’s demonstration of how to build a pencil.

If Obama had tried to build a pencil we would have spent millions of dollars for a broken piece of wood delivered 6 months late.

But a group of self-interested individuals somehow manage to cooperate and delegate the tasks very efficiently w/out anyone having to manage them.

PackerBronco on October 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Hmmmmmmm,…………………..

Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 2h

Rep Pete King on chances of a filibuster of Senate plan: I would hope that somehow even at this stage that Ted Cruz would have a calm head.
=========

Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 2h

Rep Pete King on if there’s a filibuster of Senate plan: A filibuster would be final indignity. The final mistake.
=======================================================

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Lolz! Dang it! Tell me you know something about continuity between terminals on a part. -_- I’m counting on you Electrongod.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM

*clink*

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Lolz! *clink!* Well, here’s to reality! ; )

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:52 PM

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Indian Health Service, where have I seen that disaster before?

Oh yes, as the blueprint for the darker portions of PlaceboCare SCOAMT.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 10:53 PM

GOP is becoming the party of “if only” and “what ifs”. We often complain about there being no leadership in the WH but there hasn’t been an abundance of leadership in the GOP, either. What are they doing in DC, anyway…anything? the administration had 3 yrs to get the Heath care mandate ready to go and failed miserably. the GOP had the same amount of time to make clear that it was a train wreck and they failed as well. So they all failed. miserably.

scalleywag on October 14, 2013 at 10:54 PM

**whispers softly **
Don’t say that , NSA will tell that to Hussein and then…….

burrata on October 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM

burrata:D*mmitt, you had to bring up the NSAGoons:)
===================================================

NSA surveillance programs leaked

Report: NSA collecting millions of email address books, chat lists, many belonging to Americans – @washingtontonpost

3 hours ago from http://www.washingtonpost.com by editor
=====================================================

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-collects-millions-of-e-mail-address-books-globally/2013/10/14/8e58b5be-34f9-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story.html

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Hi pambi. I don’t know how to swim so I had to chase you in a wooden canoe that BMore made out of wood.

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Lolz! Dang it! Tell me you know something about continuity between terminals on a part. -_- I’m counting on you Electrongod.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM

As you know I am an electrical enganeer….

What part are you talking about?

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Thermal fuse.

Says its likely the first thing to check when the dryer won’t start. I have a meter but I lack a 9v battery. Have to fetch one in the a.m.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I’m reminded of Milton Friedman’s demonstration of how to build a pencil.

If Obama had tried to build a pencil we would have spent millions of dollars for a broken piece of wood delivered 6 months late.

But a group of self-interested individuals somehow manage to cooperate and delegate the tasks very efficiently w/out anyone having to manage them.

PackerBronco on October 14, 2013 at 10:51 PM

That’s because Hussein has not been building a pencil,
he has been building an irreversible permanent system for enforcement of jaziah ,
that’s why he is not even pretending to care about the consequences. Ofcourse taquiyya has being used and will to continue to being used until the nation submits.

burrata on October 14, 2013 at 10:59 PM

“I think we have missed a big issue. I don’t think there’s any question that this whole shutdown episode has covered for the bad rollout of ObamaCare,” said Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), an ally of Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). “A lot of us warned that.”

*snip*

But Obama didn’t receive a single question about the snafus at a news conference last week, despite an appearance before reporters that lasted more than an hour…


Ahhhhhh, classic GOPe & GOPe-media reasoning …

“We could NEVER have won THIS battle; but don’t worry, we know EXACTLY how we are going to win the NEXT battle we are NEVER going to be ALLOWED to HAVE.”

The Kneepad Media has spent the past 5.5 YEARS making sure the SCOAMF is held completely unaccountable on the domestic front for anything …

[Is there ANYONE stupid enough not to realize EVERY question asked at the "press conference" was written by the White House Communications office?]

… but regardless of that FACT, the GOPe-media eagerly tells the GOPe BIG LIE without any hesitation …

… or acknowledgement of reality.

PolAgnostic on October 14, 2013 at 11:00 PM

“I think we have missed a big issue. I don’t think there’s any question that this whole shutdown episode has covered for the bad rollout of ObamaCare,” said Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), an ally of Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). “A lot of us warned that.”…

That’s why we want to stop it, dumb$#1t! And you’re wrong, in face people are very aware that it’s a failure, that’s why the majority of people are opposed to it!

In many ways, this was the “train wreck” that Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) was actually talking about — a botched implementation that obscured the law’s coverage options.

Yes, and you and other scumbags like you obstructed the effort to stop the train to avoid the train wreck, you POS!

FloatingRock on October 14, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Time To Take Bets On Frexit And The French Franc?

Resist We Much on October 14, 2013 at 10:56 PM

And here I thought the French were surrender monkeys. You learn something new every day.

nobar on October 14, 2013 at 11:01 PM

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Canadian sharks bite your legs off and then take off.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Steve Eggleston:Lol,..(laughing with you Sparky):0

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 11:02 PM

[Is there ANYONE stupid enough
PolAgnostic on October 14, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Lolz! Good one! ; )

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 11:02 PM

n,k,STFU!

^ Will be using vociferously from now on.

Axe on October 14, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Says its likely the first thing to check when the dryer won’t start. I have a meter but I lack a 9v battery. Have to fetch one in the a.m.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:58 PM

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Or you could borrow the one out of one of your smoke detectors for a few minutes …

… just sayin’

PolAgnostic on October 14, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Says its likely the first thing to check when the dryer won’t start. I have a meter but I lack a 9v battery. Have to fetch one in the a.m.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Thermal fuses are usually one time fuses…
If it has no continuity…
Replace with an equivalent fuse..

Now the real question is…
Why did it blow in the first place?

Is this an older dryer or was there some incident where the temp got too hot?

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Then in Cleveland last week a cab driver who found I was coming from DC explained to me how outrageous he thought it was that Republicans had shut down the websites that would have let him sign up for health insurance. And a bartender told me the GOP is getting what it wants out of the shutdown—Obamacare isn’t launching.

FloatingRock on October 14, 2013 at 11:06 PM

So,

on the Government ShutDown,did anyone make a Prediction:
========================================================

Days or weeks: How long will the shutdown last?
posted at 7:21 pm on October 2, 2013 by Allahpundit
===================================================

Prediction:

Either, all the way to Halloween,or Gobble Gobble!!

(Thursday, November 28 2013)!!

canopfor on October 2, 2013 at 7:33 PM

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/02/days-or-weeks-how-long-will-the-shutdown-last/comment-page-1/

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 11:06 PM

PolAgnostic on October 14, 2013 at 11:04 PM

All our detectors are hard wired to the central system. Good idea though.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Time To Take Bets On Frexit And The French Franc?

Resist We Much on October 14, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Let’s hope the recreation of Joan of Arc doesn’t end up as flamed-out as the original.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Lolz! Good one! ; )

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 11:02 PM

.
Thx … waiting to see if one of the trolls shows up and picks up AP’s quote and goes “all in” on it without reading my post.

;0

“It’s a trap!”

PolAgnostic on October 14, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Yep. That’s what I am wondering as well. It is old. Its in use by a leaser of space. ; )

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Then in Cleveland last week a cab driver who found I was coming from DC explained to me how outrageous he thought it was that Republicans had shut down the websites that would have let him sign up for health insurance. And a bartender told me the GOP is getting what it wants out of the shutdown—Obamacare isn’t launching.

So because a few pieces of anecdotal evidence that indicate a couple people you’ve met, a minority according to polls, want Obamacare, we just have to live with it?

FloatingRock on October 14, 2013 at 11:09 PM

All our detectors are hard wired to the central system. Good idea though.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 11:06 PM

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So our mine, but they still have 9 volt battieries in them as back-up.

“It’s not a question if I am paranoid. It’s a question if I am paranoid enough.”

PolAgnostic on October 14, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Daughter told me tonight about a friend who was in a car wreck; car was totaled insurance company telling them they can’t process anything because the government is shutdown.

Um… what?

Midas on October 14, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Thermal fuse.

Says its likely the first thing to check when the dryer won’t start. I have a meter but I lack a 9v battery. Have to fetch one in the a.m.

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 10:58 PM

B: hook a jumper wire between the 2 wires going to the fuse. If the drier runs waa laa bad fuse.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on October 14, 2013 at 11:10 PM

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Indian Health Service, where have I seen that disaster before?

Oh yes, as the blueprint for the darker portions of PlaceboCare SCOAMT.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Steve Eggleston:Wow, back to 09′:)

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 11:11 PM

n,k,STFU!

^ Will be using vociferously from now on.

Axe on October 14, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Snicker.

Good one, Egg.

Resist We Much on October 14, 2013 at 11:11 PM

And now it seems to be the case that many grassroots liberals believe, in the wake of the botched website launch, that it’s Ted Cruz rather than IT contractors and their overseers in the administration who’ve screwed things up.

But in fact it’s not Ted Cruz’s fault if people don’t know that, it’s the GOP elite who’ve spent all of their time attacking Ted Cruz instead of helping him defeat Obamacare.

FloatingRock on October 14, 2013 at 11:12 PM

B: hook a jumper wire between the 2 wires going to the fuse. If the drier runs waa laa bad fuse

Fred

jrsrigmvr on October 14, 2013 at 11:10 PM


Fred …

… has Bmore done something to make you wish for his discorporation?”

PolAgnostic on October 14, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Parody:

BankRupting America
*******************

The Government Episode 3
*************************

97,594 views 2 weeks ago

Check out the final episode of The Government — a (somewhat) fictional story about a federal agency desperate to spend its way to a bigger budget.

Catch up on past episodes: http://bnkrpt.am/17Lycne

Get the real-world facts behind Spend It or Lose It: http://bnkrpt.am/18rIpW9
=========================

http://www.youtube.com/user/BankruptingAmerica?feature=watch

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 11:14 PM

3 hours ago from http://www.washingtonpost.com by editor
=====================================================

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-collects-millions-of-e-mail-address-books-globally/2013/10/14/8e58b5be-34f9-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story.html

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 10:54 PM

**facepalm**
Hi NSA guys and gals
** waves with a big smile **
I’m so thankful for all the work you are doing on a holiday today ,
please convey eid mubaruk to your deity !!
:(

burrata on October 14, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Electrongod on October 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Yep. That’s what I am wondering as well. It is old. Its in use by a leaser of space. ; )

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Might not be the fuse. It was just suggested as a place to start. Might be one of the other parts. If I can’t fix it, it means a trip to my buds scrapyard. He gets two or three truck loads of new dented appliances in every week. They all work fine. They just can’t seem to sell em for what they are asking. So they send them to my friend who crushes them and gives them an affidavit they in turn send to the manufacture for a credit. Last thing I got off him was a dishwasher. Real nice one. Paid the salvage weight for it. Works like a charm. Funniest part was the dents where in the back. Except a little one I managed to make on the front panel loading on my truck. Doh!

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 11:15 PM

But in fact it’s not Ted Cruz’s fault if people don’t know that, it’s the GOP elite who’ve spent all of their time attacking Ted Cruz instead of helping him defeat Obamacare.

FloatingRock on October 14, 2013 at 11:12 PM

FloatingRock:Amen on dat!:)

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 11:16 PM

PolAgnostic on October 14, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Lolz! Mine are battery backed up at the panel. ; )

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 11:16 PM

n,k,STFU!

^ Will be using vociferously from now on.

Axe on October 14, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Snicker.

Good one, Egg.

Resist We Much on October 14, 2013 at 11:11 PM

I don’t think I can claim credit for that one.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Steve Eggleston:Wow, back to 09′:)

canopfor on October 14, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Blasts from the past are my specialty.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 11:17 PM

jrsrigmvr on October 14, 2013 at 11:10 PM

I thought about doing that when I realized the 9v battery in my meter was dead. You think I should?

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 11:17 PM

don’t think I can claim credit for that one.

Steve Eggleston on October 14, 2013 at 11:16 PM

I was referring to your Jeanne D’Arc post. :-)

Resist We Much on October 14, 2013 at 11:18 PM

he starts a tad slow…but heats up
the levin show was good today..

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=2591&c=10771&f=1973763

going2mars on October 14, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Are we still on page one?

Bmore on October 14, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Fred …

… has Bmore done something to make you wish for his discorporation?”

PolAgnostic on October 14, 2013 at 11:13 PM

not yet

Fred

jrsrigmvr on October 14, 2013 at 11:19 PM

From now on I’m gonna do whatever I want vociferously.

SparkPlug on October 14, 2013 at 11:19 PM

But Obama didn’t receive a single question about the snafus at a news conference last week, despite an appearance before reporters that lasted more than an hour…

Yes, we can all be sure that if there was no shutdown, the MSM would have grilled Obama about all the Obamacare glitches. Because we all know that when Bush was POTUS, he never got grilled over more than one issue at a time. Just like when the MSM forgot to grill Obama over Benghazi, because they were thrown so out of whack over the fact that Romney spoke out of turn.

ardenenoch on October 14, 2013 at 11:20 PM

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