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posted at 10:01 pm on October 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

So two weeks in, here’s where we’re at: Many and perhaps most users can’t even get into the federal exchange system. Those who can are often stymied by errors, and can’t trust that any subsidized insurance prices they see will be accurate. And then, even if they do manage to get all the way through the system, their applications may not transmit properly to the insurers from whom they are trying to purchase insurance. In short, nothing works. It’s a failure at every level

In order for coverage to start on January 1, individuals will have to complete applications by December 15. And in order to avoid the law’s penalty for remaining uninsured, they’ll have to be enrolled by February 15 of next year—not the end of March.

In other words, the administration doesn’t really have six months to fix problems with the exchanges. Political pressure will build well before the end of March. If there isn’t significant progress in a fairly short period of time, I suspect we’ll start to see a lot more supporters begin to question the law, or at least start to wonder aloud about what to do with a health care overhaul that simply doesn’t work.

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In the months before the launch almost every senior member of the Obama administration had a little calendar board tacked up in a prominent spot in their office. “75 days until Obamacare” it would say. The next morning they would tear off the page. “74 days until Obamacare” it would say. The message — to them and to their visitors — was clear: This was the White House’s top priority.

We’re now negative 14 days until the Affordable Care Act and most people still can’t purchase insurance. The magnitude of this failure is stunning. Yes, the federal health-care law is a complicated project, government IT rules are a mess, and the scrutiny has been overwhelming. But the Obama administration knew all that going in. They should’ve been able to build an online portal that works.

Early on, President Obama like to compare the launch of the Affordable Care Act to Apple launching a new product. Can you imagine how many people Steve Jobs would’ve fired by now if he’d launched a new product like this?

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Is there someone in the federal government who will be held accountable for the fact that many Americans are still encountering problems as they seek to sign up for insurance on the federal exchange?

Administration officials, who could not be reached immediately for comment, have not identified which officials at Health and Human Services were directly in charge of the new computer enrollment system, or which companies are most involved with fixing it now. Both GCI Federal and Quality Software Services Inc. helped construct the Web site and data hub, respectively…

“Despite our warnings that the law was not ready for prime time, the administration repeatedly brushed us off, proclaiming everything was ‘on track,” said House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton in a statement Monday. “The first two weeks of enrollment have been a nightmare, and we now know despite over three years to prepare, the administration was in over its head. After hundreds of millions of dollars spent on a shoddy website and numerous broken promises, the American people deserve answers, and we are going to get to the bottom of this mess in the coming weeks.”

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“Healthcare.gov was initially going to include an option to browse before registering,” report Christopher Weaver and Louise Radnofsky in the Wall Street Journal. “But that tool was delayed, people familiar with the situation said.” Why was it delayed? “An HHS spokeswoman said the agency wanted to ensure that users were aware of their eligibility for subsidies that could help pay for coverage, before they started seeing the prices of policies.” (Emphasis added.)…

The answer is that Obamacare wasn’t designed to help healthy people with average incomes get health insurance. It was designed to force those people to pay more for coverage, in order to subsidize insurance for people with incomes near the poverty line, and those with chronic or costly medical conditions.

But the laws’ supporters and enforcers don’t want you to know that, because it would violate the President’s incessantly repeated promise that nothing would change for the people that Obamacare doesn’t directly help. If you shop for Obamacare-based coverage without knowing if you qualify for subsidies, you might be discouraged by the law’s steep costs…

This political objective—masking the true underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans—far outweighed the operational objective of making the federal website work properly. Think about it the other way around. If the “Affordable Care Act” truly did make health insurance more affordable, there would be no need to hide these prices from the public.

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The functional failures of the Affordable Care Act websites are well-documented, but the fundamental flaw is the law’s mind-numbing complexity. The officials who planned ObamaCare blame their Web engineers, but they’re passing the buck. ObamaCare is a hugely complicated approach to addressing problems in health care that have simpler solutions.

Software glitches are no surprise with such a complex system. For example, signing up uses a Byzantine process to check if a family is entitled to a subsidy, requiring data from dozens of federal and state agencies using databases built on different technology platforms…

These include Medicaid to determine eligibility, the Internal Revenue Service to determine insurance-premium subsidies based on income, and Homeland Security to confirm citizenship. To make sure the family isn’t covered elsewhere, the sites have to retrieve data from the Veterans Health Administration, the Office of Personnel Management and state Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Programs. Assuming a family is cleared and purchases a plan, the information has to be handed off cleanly to an insurance company.

The Government Accountability Office last year calculated that for the IRS alone, implementing ObamaCare would be a “massive undertaking that involves 47 different statutory provisions and extensive coordination.”

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“I think we have missed a big issue. I don’t think there’s any question that this whole shutdown episode has covered for the bad rollout of ObamaCare,” said Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), an ally of Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). “A lot of us warned that.”…

In many ways, this was the “train wreck” that Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) was actually talking about — a botched implementation that obscured the law’s coverage options.

But Obama didn’t receive a single question about the snafus at a news conference last week, despite an appearance before reporters that lasted more than an hour…

“I think we can fight the problems with ObamaCare in a more intelligent way than we have, and actually get some success out of it,” Rep. Charles Boustany (R-La.), another leadership ally, told reporters. “But we are where we are.”

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Back in the first week of the month, I was in Philadelphia and someone asked me if the reason HealthCare.gov wasn’t working was that the people running the site were furloughed because of the shutdown. I explained that no that isn’t the case and these are just two unrelated things that happened the same week in politics. Then in Cleveland last week a cab driver who found I was coming from DC explained to me how outrageous he thought it was that Republicans had shut down the websites that would have let him sign up for health insurance. And a bartender told me the GOP is getting what it wants out of the shutdown—Obamacare isn’t launching.

Which is to say that I think a large share of people don’t realize that this problems with the Affordable Care Act IT infrastructure have very little to do with Republicans and basically nothing to do with the shutdown.

After all, it’s confusing. Republicans did shut the government down. They did shut the government down in order to stop Obamacare. The shutdown came on the same week that Obamacare’s websites were supposed to launch. And for many people, the websites are not in fact working. So it’s natural—but wrong—to think that the non-functionality of the websites is the shutdown. It seems to be the case that many grassroots conservatives believed, pre-shutdown, that the Ted Cruz strategy could actually prevent Obamacare from launching. And now it seems to be the case that many grassroots liberals believe, in the wake of the botched website launch, that it’s Ted Cruz rather than IT contractors and their overseers in the administration who’ve screwed things up.

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Once the administration figures out its technical issues, as it presumably will, Obamacare will move into the sticker-shock phase, as millions of Americans discover they will pay higher premiums, or higher deductibles, or both, for the same type of insurance they had before Obamacare. The Republican campaign would go all-out to inform Americans that that is on the way. And at every step, the GOP would play Obama’s promise: If you like your health coverage, you can keep it…

But it didn’t happen. The GOP chose instead to embark on its ill-fated drive to defund Obamacare. When that failed, Republicans made progressively weaker demands that the White House delay or somehow limit Obamacare, and those failed, too. In the meantime, the Republican effort has led to a partial shutdown of the government, now nearly two weeks old. And the shutdown battle has morphed into a fight over the debt limit and the possibility the nation will default on its debts next Thursday…

Instead of pounding Obama on the mandates, defects, false promises, and expense of Obamacare, Republicans ended up pounding themselves.

Of course the GOP will have more chances to fight Obamacare in the future. Long after a continuing resolution has been passed and the debt limit raised, Obamacare will still be a major, and for many unwelcome, factor in American life. But what an opportunity missed, at such a crucial time.

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Via RCP.

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Via the Daily Rushbo.


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Schadenfreude on October 14, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Her big, fat a$$.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 15, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Come one now. Just because the first lady has a rear-end so jacked up that it could point to Polaris in a gale wind is no reason to make fun of her butt.

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 12:43 AM

I got another Bishop with Schad’s brain tied behind my back.

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 12:44 AM

Speaking of brains, interesting article

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Hi Axe. I think she will marry you. It will help if you jettison those frog green tights. (used for theatrical purposes only.)

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 12:48 AM

This thread has gone to hell.

Bishop on October 15, 2013 at 12:49 AM

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Papa would do whatever he could.
Preach a little gospel, Sell a couple bottles of Dr Good..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Axe on October 15, 2013 at 12:41 AM

*tip fedora*..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 12:51 AM

*tip fedora*..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 12:51 AM

lol

Axe on October 15, 2013 at 12:52 AM

The Schad shark warns you, over and over again, that if you keep it up, a shark is going to come along and bite your leg off. And then, when a shark comes along and bites your leg off, the Schad shark just circles for a while, stares, and shakes his head, smiling.

Axe on October 15, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Squirrels go nuts for First Lady’s garden in shutdown…

…tomatoes are rotting

UNHARVESTED…

what a calamity? NOT

its her garden. Moochelle should tend the damn thing. Typical lib. Wants stuff from other people for free.

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 12:58 AM

The Axe shark didn’t listen to the Schad shark, so the Axe shark got his leg bitten clean off.

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Moochelle should tend the damn thing. Typical lib. Wants stuff from other people for free.

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Plus when she figured that celery and carrots do not taste as good as a cheeseburger with fries she quickly changed her mind..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:01 AM

…just grinning…while getting accused by both sides.

Bishop, even the extraterrestrials know that the QotD threads are sometimes hellish.

On serious note, what isn’t?

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2013 at 1:02 AM

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Yep. She has been camped out at the cheeseburger feed trough.

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 1:03 AM

I love how ugly Matt Drudge portrays her soul.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2013 at 1:05 AM

I hope those tomatoes were raised as free-range tomatoes and that they were allowed to rot humanely and sustain-ably.

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 1:06 AM

I just love these guys who think the roll out of Obamacare would have gotten worse coverage if not for the shut down. I know we tend to get all gaga over anytime someone on the Left buys a clue and admits to the obvious but we aren’t there yet. The glitches are still cute and just because everyone cannot wait to partake. So what that one of the navigators has an outstanding warrant and everyone is going to qualify for subsidies (unless you are affiliated with a Tea Party) and identity theft/bogus sites are already the norm.

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2013 at 1:09 AM

“The tomato plants are now an impressive tangle of browning vines, with ripe Sungolds littering the ground beneath,” writes Eddie Gehman Kohan on her Obama Foodorama blog.

Eddie Gehman Kohan has got to be a major spaz libtard to have a freakin’ Obama Foodorama blog.

*facepalm*

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Welcome to Hell!!….

williamg on October 15, 2013 at 1:11 AM

Axe on October 15, 2013 at 12:57 AM

True fact:..After seeing Jaws when I was young..It was two weeks before I would go into the water..:)

PS..They don’t make movies (Particularly horror movies) like they used to..:(

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2013 at 1:09 AM

Good evening!..Great to see you..:)

PS..Agree with your post..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:20 AM

As I understand it. Obama’s union won the reprieve they requested, got turned down because it clearly violated the law as much as Holder even knows it, and we got the shaft.
IS THAT RIGHT?
This was all done so the unions could screw with us more?

pat on October 15, 2013 at 1:20 AM

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/328459-labor-gets-obamacare-olive-branch-

pat on October 15, 2013 at 1:20 AM

yes pat it looks like weve gotten screwed again…and again,,,and again,,

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 1:26 AM

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:20 AM

Great to see you. I’m so grumpy. Between some kind of head cold/allergy thing and stupid Republicans, I am very annoyed.

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2013 at 1:31 AM

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 1:26 AM

I don’t consider a delay of a year of reinsurance fee as a total win by the unions..I don’t think they will be throwing a ticker tape parade..Plus it will cause Obiecare even bigger problems..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:35 AM

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2013 at 1:31 AM

It has definitely become a circus..GOP has issues for sure..But at least more folks are starting to pay attention and that is a good thing..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Quick Drive-By,……*Waves at Dire *:)
=======================================

9:01 AM – 14 Oct 13 · Details

Andrew Blankstein ‏@anblanx 9m

Fact that Dry Ice Devices were on found on LAX Tarmac changes the dynamic although still not believed related to terrorism.

Dry ice bombs found at LAX
**************************

On two consecutive nights in October 2013, ‘dry ice’ bombs were found at Los Angeles International Airport.
Photo: Scene at Los Angeles International after one dry ice bomb explodes, two others found – @LANow

47 mins ago from twitter.com/LANow by editor

For second night in a row, a ‘dry ice’ bomb is discovered at Los Angeles International Airport – @NBCLA

56 mins ago by editor

Two ‘dry-ice’ bombs found in employee bathrooms at Los Angeles International Tom Bradley Terminal, per sources. One detonated; no danger to public – @anblanx

1 hour ago from twitter.com/anblanx by editor

Suspicious package at Los Angeles International Tom Bradley Terminal; fire department on scene and area blocked off – @NBCLA

1 hour ago from twitter.com/NBCLA by editor

FBI: No threats associated with dry ice bomb at Los Angeles International Airport that exploded Sunday night – @LANow

11 hours ago from http://www.latimes.com by editor

Departures from Los Angeles International’s Terminal 2 resume after dry ice bomb explosion causes delays; no injuries or arrests – @NBCLA

Oct 13, 2013, 11:58 p.m. from twitter.com/NBCLA by partner

Departing flights are halted from Los Angeles International Terminal 2 after discovery of dry ice bomb in bathroom – @NBCLA

Oct 13, 2013, 11:42 p.m. by editor

Authorities responding to Los Angeles International after report of small explosion in Terminal 2. No known injuries – @NBCLA

Oct 13, 2013, 11:10 p.m. from twitter.com/NBCLA by partner
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/dry-ice-bombs-found-at-lax

canopfor on October 15, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:35 AM

yes…but..trumpka can go back and say he got something…

and we got….what ??…
did we kill it??.
did we delay it??..
did we get to change it back to the original law..??
did we get the government to live by this great law??..
im with you all …but what did we get ??..
it will be interesting to see how we play the last ‘hammer’ we have…

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 1:42 AM

…..nobody here has a sense of humor anymore….

williamg on October 15, 2013 at 1:46 AM

LAX Dry Ice Bombs:

Dry ice bombs found at LAX

One of the dry ice bombs at Los Angeles International was found below plane at gate 148. Two others appear to have been found nearby outside Bradley Terminal – @anblanx

2 mins ago from twitter.com/anblanx by editor
=================================================

https://twitter.com/anblanx

https://twitter.com/NBCLA

canopfor on October 15, 2013 at 1:48 AM

…..nobody here has a sense of humor anymore….

williamg on October 15, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Loved the “welcome to Hell” :) Sorry that I didn’t thank you for it. Mr. Bean is a riot.

Take care williamg and sincerely thank you for the smiles.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2013 at 1:50 AM

…..nobody here has a sense of humor anymore….

williamg on October 15, 2013 at 1:46 AM

canopfor does. He has a sense of humor. He put dry ice bombs at LAX.

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Loved the “welcome to Hell” :) Sorry that I didn’t thank you for it. Mr. Bean is a riot.

Take care williamg and sincerely thank you for the smiles.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2013 at 1:50 AM

He is a funny, funny man……take care, Schade and thanks!

williamg on October 15, 2013 at 1:51 AM

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 1:42 AM

Watch the House..The House is the key here..:)

PS..I understand your frustration..But when you only control the House it is almost impossible at the moment to play hard ball..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:52 AM

canopfor on October 15, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Good evening Friend..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:53 AM

williamg on October 15, 2013 at 1:51 AM

That was a funny clip..Nice post..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:52 AM

im with you 100%…yes the house vote will be more than just a tell…
and we did get lots of good material for TV adds for 2014..
this rat bastarQ voted for O-care..this one did not…
ive always known we dont have the numbers..
my fear here is….we dont have the numbers..
the takers outnumber the makers…
we are
The United States of America…(look at the red map)
and
The United Big Cities of America….

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Hi Axe. I think she will marry you. It will help if you jettison those frog green tights. (used for theatrical purposes only.)

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 12:48 AM

She totally digs me. People just don’t get her. I dunno if she’ll ever marry me, though . . . but, I dunno — I’m a catch. :)

– Whatever. I just love being around her. You ever play Pitfall? If life were Pitfall, being with Sophie Ro would be the left and the right of the screen. The rest of life would be the middle.

——————————-

All right — since I suddenly decided 12 hours was my limit and I’m going to try to live a more balanced life — for some reason I failed to explain to myself when I made that ridiculously consequential decision a few minutes ago — and since everything is now weirdly shut down and kind of creepy — I guess I’m going to go read or do jumping-jacks or something — whatever balanced people do. I would say good night, but I’m not here.

{{{{{Sophie Ro}}}}}

PS..They don’t make movies (Particularly horror movies) like they used to..:(

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:13 AM

They really don’t. :) I have a guess. I was doing a thing, and I put something “hokey” in there, and I thought that there was no way it would ever be published. I argued with myself about it, asked why I thought it was cool. My answer was that I wasn’t “jaded.” I think that’s it. Maybe audiences really are jaded, maybe it’s just the makers that are and they assume everyone else is. Bigger, louder, bloodier — and further and further away from “the thing.” Not sure; just talking. :)

I’d say good night, but I’m not here.

PS: Me too, Jaws messing me up awhile. :)

#herecott

Axe on October 15, 2013 at 2:10 AM

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 1:59 AM

You make a very good point..The GOP has to do a better job of getting out the GOP message to more folks..not just the “safe” red states..If we do not we are in big trouble as far as the future..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 1:52 AM

heck i read that 47 million ppl are on food stamps..
add in 10 libs that actually have jobs and its 57 million..

BHO got 56 some million votes i thought…

we may be just short of the makers….by numbers..

then add 12-15 million ppl from mexico…

we will be hurting for numbers for a while i fear..

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 2:16 AM

Axe on October 15, 2013 at 2:10 AM

I hear you..:):)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 2:24 AM

i think the Rs need to be educated and, well, organized…and weaned away from their high paid staff and fanboys.

I’ve been reading about he Housing Act of 1949. Truman’s Fail Deal

Housing…everyone needs a decent home. Well, that pretty much blew up in the urban planners face with Cabrene Green, Pruitt Igoe, and many many ohter. There was also an increse in funding to FHA to help borrowers. And also some funding for community planning

Lesson One. Laws the don’t work get jettisoned…and buildings torn down…and reputations suffer

Lesson Two. Parts that allow Freedom, with a little help from uncle sugar may work for a while. (this gets into our current housing crisis…a holy mess of the Fed, Mortgage Bankers, Cheats, and other people

this was all part of the Fair Deal…some parts were sucessfull, some not

some Rs need to disabuse themselves of the notion that barrycare is here 4EVR.

but the bad news is that Rs have to be smart…very smart, and tell the story of left wing failures of the past…as well as the modest successes. the country is enriched by our history…if we just knew it

Rs need to be much smarter, much more focused on the historical sweep of where we are. Barry is an anomaly….and Rs need to show why that is, and how the future needs to change for us to not wind up in the Pruitt-Igoe of healthcare

r keller on October 15, 2013 at 2:27 AM

r keller on October 15, 2013 at 2:27 AM

nicely put..

“i think the Rs need to be educated and, well, organized”

theres the rub…were looking for an extra ten million
ppl that understand limited government…
your looking for 10 mil extra ppl with…..logic..

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 2:35 AM

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 2:16 AM

We just have to get better at our message in ALL places..:)

PS..Plus this “winner take all thunder dome” the GOP is having right now is not helping matter one bit..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 2:36 AM

Dire Straits on October 15, 2013 at 2:36 AM

We just have to get better at our message in ALL places..:)

PS..Plus this “winner take all thunder dome” the GOP is having right now is not helping matter one bit..:)

here too our message got lost or not reported at all..
why no one could articulate clearly, repeatedly , and loudly..
a simple message of why BHOcare is a epic fail…
go to the networks…i mean Sen’s N Rep’s actually drive down there..
why isnt a GOP Sen or Rep on every channel every hour..
if they all wrote to every major papers op-ed the simple message..
they would be forced to print them all….
but ohh no….we have at best a loose message…and dont get me started about our ‘team player’ Rino’s in the Sen…
schoouch..mcCain is killing us out there…
who evers in charge of the plan…holds it loosely

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 2:48 AM

didnt mean to be a QotD thread killer..
i’ll try and cheer up …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU5xA6ty0a4

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 3:06 AM

The launch of Obamacare is like the launch of a North Korean missile. It goes up but it don’t go nowhere.

vityas on October 15, 2013 at 3:42 AM

http://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=templebar

here’s some good news..
the pubs in Dublin are getting a keg refil…live

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 3:43 AM

http://search.earthcam.com/search/ft_search.php?_sbox=1&s1=1&term=abby+road

sunrise at abby road perhaps..?

going2mars on October 15, 2013 at 4:09 AM

marcus, morning joe is all yours this am….

joe is an absolute a$$ starting out….

can’t do it….

cmsinaz on October 15, 2013 at 6:18 AM

Early on, President Obama like to compare the launch of the Affordable Care Act to Apple launching a new product. Can you imagine how many people Steve Jobs would’ve fired by now if he’d launched a new product like this?

Ah the Apple Lisa, remember that? Such a great system! So great that Apple recalled every unit to dump them in an unmarked landfill and covered over Jobs’ computer system.

Then there was stomping out the door because he wasn’t getting enough control over things at Apple… which brought Steve Jobs forth with the NeXT. Ahhhh… what a great system, no? It gained such a wide appeal amongst… people with the last name of Jobs in control of his own company. Too bad about that. He should have fired himself.

The people who came after Jobs streamlined the Lisa concept, toned it down, made it usable and… well… still pretty pricey, really.

What was Jobs good at? Selling you a lifestyle and devices that did one or two things well. And even then there were product failures, bad launches and things like the Newton that just wound up in limbo under Jobs. He turned Apple away from being a niche software company married to a fixed hardware platform and, when he came back, decided that gadgets and an Apple-centric lifestyle with the Mac at its center would rescue Apple Computer.

You can still get a Mac, of course, but it runs on hardware that is commodity hardware – the thing Apple got from Jobs was prosecuting ANYONE who attempted to do that for so long that the company became a joke. That was Jobs idea to start with, remember the Lisa? Only after it was too late at the entire Mac line had to move to Open Source for an OS did the death knell for proprietary computing end the marriage of Mac software to Mac hardware for Mac prices.

Someone really should have been fired for that idea, back in the day. Especially when Motorola started to get its clock cleaned on the CPU by Intel and then the real kicker was AMD the little copyhouse that could design a better x64 chip than Intel. Or Motorola. I’m glad that Jobs finally realized that the control fight wasn’t worth it… now if only he had realized that with the landfill experience, the world might be very different if Steve Jobs had decided to look at bottom line and units sold on commodity platforms back when it counted.

Steve Jobs did many things right.

He also had a control freak streak that he wanted to extend to your life by convincing you his products were great. That was his Reality Distortion Field at work, and it swayed the committed no end. In Bill Gates he faced a man who wanted a Microsoft OS on every computer on every desk on the planet and who, as his major talent, had a way with even the most buggy software to make it work flawlessly in a public demo. In Jobs you bought the RDS even if the product sucked. With Gates you believed that the product could work, even when it sucked and only worked some of the time.

Obamacare was meant to suck from DAY 1. And succeed just enough to capture demographic information on the poor for use by the Democratic Party. Then it was meant to fail so that there would be a clamor for a Single Payer System. We know this as that is what Leftists have been telling us even during the Obamacare fight for passage.

Unfortunately it failed before it could succeed so it could fail.

Jobs and Gates had more integrity than that and BOTH pulled projects that were failures.

Obamacare? Hear the moaning and the yelling from the Left that will not admit to their bad intentions and the bad results. The law is a failure for its intentions… the software failed as just one part of that, but it failed before it could even get out the door. Speaks volumes of the law, itself.

ajacksonian on October 15, 2013 at 6:29 AM

Good Morning, Patriots~ …And, Trolls. During the Shutdown…who speaks for average Ameicans? Here I am…stuck in the middle with you.
My take: The Shutdown: Clowns to the Left of Me…Jokers to the “Right”

kingsjester on October 15, 2013 at 6:33 AM

Good Morning, Patriots~ …And, Trolls. During the Shutdown…who speaks for average Ameicans? Here I am…stuck in the middle with you.
My take: The Shutdown: Clowns to the Left of Me…Jokers to the “Right”

kingsjester on October 15, 2013 at 6:33 AM

Good morning. We must get up around the same time. Had a nice kale/cheese omelet for breakfast.

Hey.. anyone else ever see the little smiley face down in the lower left hand corner? I never saw it until this morning. It’s probably been there since day one.

JellyToast on October 15, 2013 at 6:41 AM

Is there someone in the federal government who will be held accountable for the fact that many Americans are still encountering problems as they seek to sign up for insurance on the federal exchange?

ROTFLMAO! That’s joke of the day material right there. A massive new government program is being rolled out and they’re resorting to paper applications and snail mail because the technology doesn’t work.

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2013 at 6:41 AM

My take: The Shutdown: Clowns to the Left of Me…Jokers to the “Right”

kingsjester on October 15, 2013 at 6:33 AM

I would argue that the only people speaking for Americans right now are those evil Tea Party people. They are the only ones who seem to want to address the underlying issues instead of kicking the can down the road (to Jan/February by reports on the Senate plan). It is time to actually do something about government spending instead of just getting another “extension.”

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2013 at 6:44 AM

JellyToast on October 15, 2013 at 6:41 AM

Mornin’, brother. That smiley face is from the NSA. They’re always watching. :)

kingsjester on October 15, 2013 at 6:47 AM

kingsjester on October 15, 2013 at 6:33 AM

another good one KJ…

cmsinaz on October 15, 2013 at 6:47 AM

$17 trillion in debt and deficits as far as the eye can see, and the democrats want to borrow more and more. Is there any level of debt that is bad to them?

Murphy9 on October 15, 2013 at 6:48 AM

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2013 at 6:44 AM

good point, the few minutes that I could stand morning joe…he was bashing the house gop for even thinking of refusing to vote for this senate deal…couldn’t take it…

cmsinaz on October 15, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Murphy9 on October 15, 2013 at 6:48 AM

the sky’s the limit to them….just keep printing, no worries…

cmsinaz on October 15, 2013 at 6:50 AM

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2013 at 6:44 AM

I agree. We are stronger than we think we are. The “Right” I refer to in the title are the Vichy Republicans who look down their noses at the Conservative base, and expect us to vote for them, not matter how badly they treat us. For an example of that look at the Trolls we had around here during the election, posing as “Romney Supporters”.

kingsjester on October 15, 2013 at 6:50 AM

cmsinaz on October 15, 2013 at 6:18 AM

Eh, I got up late and all I see is Scarborough trying to be funny and failing miserably. Nicole Wallace seems ready to laugh herself to the floor though. I used to like Willie Geist, although he was no Pat Buchanan at least he wasn’t a 100% MSNBC hack shill like he’s turned in to, and used to at least argue a little of the other side.

Marcus on October 15, 2013 at 6:51 AM

cmsinaz on October 15, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on October 15, 2013 at 6:51 AM

morning joe…he was bashing the house gop for even thinking of refusing to vote for this senate deal

SO basically he got his Valerie Jarett talking points.

Marcus on October 15, 2013 at 6:53 AM

$17 trillion in debt and deficits as far as the eye can see, and the democrats want to borrow more and more. Is there any level of debt that is bad to them?

Murphy9 on October 15, 2013 at 6:48 AM

It astounds me that, in all this reportage of the “debt ceiling”, there has been no mention of this little fact.

Cleombrotus on October 15, 2013 at 6:53 AM

the few minutes that I could stand morning joe…he was bashing the house gop for even thinking of refusing to vote for this senate deal…couldn’t take it…

cmsinaz on October 15, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Demanding the House GOP cave, without even knowing what the Senate is offering up? Same half-assed liberal way he approached his job as a Congresscritter.

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2013 at 6:55 AM

I was reading somewhere that the goal is to devalue the dollar by one third. That should do wonders for class mobility and the economy.

Murphy9 on October 15, 2013 at 6:56 AM

SO basically he got his Valerie Jarett talking points.

Marcus on October 15, 2013 at 6:53 AM

Morning Joke doesn’t get talking points. Val personally phones them to let them know the theme of the day.

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2013 at 6:57 AM

I was reading somewhere that the goal is to devalue the dollar by one third. That should do wonders for class mobility and the economy.

Murphy9 on October 15, 2013 at 6:56 AM

The lazy stupid coward in the White House will not be happy until we all act like crazed zombies when our government benefits card stops working on a Saturday afternoon.

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2013 at 6:58 AM

Marcus on October 15, 2013 at 6:51 AM

used to be…thats for sure…

Marcus on October 15, 2013 at 6:53 AM

yup

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2013 at 6:55 AM

yup…he’s got his talking points and his sticking to them…

cmsinaz on October 15, 2013 at 6:59 AM

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2013 at 6:57 AM

:)

cmsinaz on October 15, 2013 at 7:01 AM

Nicole Wallace is as despicable as Schmoe. “I think Republicans need to stop being afraid of the Tea Party. They need to say, C’mon! Primary me!”

And earlier Schmoe saying “All the Conservatives in the Congress are calling me telling me they agree with me……” and then trailing off like “Even I don’t believe this.”

And a Daily Caller guy saying “Nicole is right!” I used to like Tucker Carlson’s page but I see lately they are Cruz bashing. Shame on Tucker.

Marcus on October 15, 2013 at 7:17 AM

I was reading somewhere that the goal is to devalue the dollar by one third. That should do wonders for class mobility and the economy.

Murphy9 on October 15, 2013 at 6:56 AM

so the US can pay its creditors (china et. al.) with cheap dollars…you know, you lend me a dollar and i’ll pay you back a dollar but it’s only worth maybe 75 cents now. see what happens when we print oodles of dollars. and why do u think that the market is going gangbusters? how much are these companies really worth? when will this massive bubble burst? don’t know but sooner rather than later.

gracie on October 15, 2013 at 7:36 AM

Nicole Wallace

moon pie traitor…sure nicole, your phone is just ringing off the hook

gracie on October 15, 2013 at 7:38 AM

And a Daily Caller guy saying “Nicole is right!” I used to like Tucker Carlson’s page but I see lately they are Cruz bashing. Shame on Tucker.

tucker is a light weight

gracie on October 15, 2013 at 7:38 AM

Fox n Friends aren’t even touching it.
I’ve been watching (its on in the background) and it’s been one silly story after another for an hour.
I guess being the right leaning “The View” gets ratings for them.

Marcus on October 15, 2013 at 7:43 AM

you know matt lewis (daily caller) has jumped the shark when mika’s head bobbles up and down while he’s speaking.

renalin on October 15, 2013 at 7:44 AM

Be patient! We do have to let it fail “to see what’s in it.”

Do we really expect the pro-amnesty GOP to contradict its “illegal’s R us” agenda by actually trying to stop Obamacare and lose 1/6 of their vote-buying power as well?

Sigh, If only Americans were half as cunningly clever as Putin…or at least distrustful of their government enough to dismantle the present horror and it’s abusers in Washington.

Don L on October 15, 2013 at 7:49 AM

My take: The Shutdown: Clowns to the Left of Me…Jokers to the “Right”

kingsjester on October 15, 2013 at 6:33 AM

…when Misfit Mitch works with Harry Raids…and says “we had a good day!….I worry!

KOOLAID2 on October 15, 2013 at 7:50 AM

canopfor on October 15, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Living tree, the neighbor. Dead tree, me. ; )

ExpressoBold on October 15, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Hoping its the switch. ; )

SparkPlug on October 15, 2013 at 12:15 AM

No. You are in my will however. ; )

msupertas on October 15, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Electric. Doesn’t start at all. ; )

Bmore on October 15, 2013 at 8:00 AM

This thread has gone to hell.

Bishop on October 15, 2013 at 12:49 AM

And your point is? Say what do you know about electric dryers that won’t start?

Bmore on October 15, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Republicans control the House. The House controls the checkbook. The House controls the government. Do all the Repubs (including the Speaker) need to go back through Freshman orientation?

They tell the President (and Co-Vice Presidents Reid and Biden), “You can have $___ trillion, not a penny more. Bring us a budget with that number at the bottom and we’ll pass it.”

If he doesn’t like it, he can sell Michelle’s vegetables outside the White House or start charging libs a dollar a turn for kissing his ass and fund the entire budget himself. Ten bucks for media.

IndieDogg on October 15, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Squirrels go nuts for First Lady’s garden in shutdown…

…tomatoes are rotting

UNHARVESTED…

What prevents her highness from tending the garden?

Schadenfreude on October 14, 2013 at 11:49 PM

that is what the help is for … surely you do not expect HER to get dirty
esp if there is not a press photo opportunity ….

conservative tarheel on October 15, 2013 at 8:09 AM

guys it is time to really pay some close attention. Susan Collins exposed how Obamacare, deficits/raising the debt ceiling and huge spending increases are all related.

1 – the issue hanging up Obamacare is the fact they can’t link the cost of a policy without revealing the subsidy. The subsidy is based on the person’s income.

2 – There has been no budget for 5 years. Only sustained spending at the trillion plus deficit level. The only thing that reined in that level of spending was the sequester. Thank you Mitch McConnell for calling Harry Reid and Obama’s bluff in the summer of 2011.

3 – This whole effort on the part of the dems is to destroy the GOP to a level that allows them to spend like democrats again. They must remove the limitations of the sequester.

Let us not eat our own. Be respectful when you call and let them know we need the house to maintain its stance. The dems are going all in with a huge effort to get the house back and they will do anything to achieve that goal. Ignore the media as they are an arm of the democrat party.

Pay close attention and stay calm. We are being played and we have weak members of the GOP that are willing to side with the dems.

DanMan on October 15, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Ruling Class narrative: Obamcare failures being overshadowed by GOP failures

If the media did not properly report on IRS scandal, Benghazi, Fast & Furious, etc., what in the world makes the establishment think that the media would report the O’Care website debacle?

If anything, the “shutdown” has given cover to some Beltway Liberals to complain about the O’care tempest under the protection of the shutdown umbrella.

mjbrooks3 on October 15, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Squirrels go nuts for First Lady’s garden in shutdown…

…tomatoes are rotting

UNHARVESTED…

What prevents her highness from tending the garden?

Schadenfreude on October 14, 2013 at 11:49 PM

that is what the help is for … surely you do not expect HER to get dirty
esp if there is not a press photo opportunity ….

conservative tarheel on October 15, 2013 at 8:09 AM

You do realize that her highness is making do with only 30 staff members right now. Right? Even the pastry chef and organic gardener have been furloughed! I’m sure that Mooch is too busy with the cooking and cleaning to get around to the gardening. But my question is why her worthless brats aren’t out there weeding the garden like any other children.

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2013 at 8:20 AM

The idiots don’t realize that ObamaCare was designed to fail from the beginning in order to pave the way for single-payer.

Any Republican who thinks we still can “fight” it after we’ve funded it is smoking ganja.

Once the entitlement is in place – it will not be removed and it will be “fixed” with “single payer”.

And the GOP Ayatollahs will VOTE for it – or at least allow it to happen because they don’t have the balls to be “radical”.

If we give up on this fight now – we’d better damn sure remove the Ayatollahs ASAP so we can actually FIGHT when that time comes.

HondaV65 on October 15, 2013 at 8:25 AM

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