McCain: The people behind the “defund ObamaCare” strategy must be held “accountable”

posted at 3:21 pm on October 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

The key bit comes at the very end, in response to a question about who’s responsible for the temporary suspension of death benefits to families of fallen troops. McCain’s answer: Everyone in Congress — but, implicitly, especially the “defund” caucus. You can tell how eager Maverick was to make that point by how quickly he turns a segment about the administration giving short shrift to the military — normally an easy lay-up for a Republican against a Democratic president — into a lament about Cruz et al. I’m not sure a guy who’s positioned himself as the lead Republican opponent of the “wacko birds” should be ruminating on holding people accountable, but if he’s leaning towards not running again in 2016, he’s got nothing to lose. No doubt he’s enjoying sticking it to tea partiers immensely.

If nothing else, this clip illustrates the slightly (but only slightly) exaggerated truth that “there are now two Republican parties.” Case in point:

Tea Party Republicans approve of the job congressional Republicans are doing by a 72%-25% margin. However, a plurality of NON-Tea Party Republicans disapprove by a 49%-42% In addition, 69% of Tea Party Republicans believe the GOP is demonstrating strong leadership and standing up for what they believe in, versus 29% of them who say they’re putting their political agenda ahead of what’s good for the country. But those numbers are reversed among NON-Tea Party Republicans — 53% say they’re putting politics first, while 41% think Republicans are standing up for what they believe in. And then there’s this: Among Tea Party Republicans, Ted Cruz has a 52%-4% fav/unfav rating. But among non-Tea Party it’s 13%-23%.

Either that rift is healed in the next two years or the primary campaign in 2015 is going to be … really something. One question for the “defund” supporters, though: If this really was about trying to build consensus in Congress to stop O-Care, why is Mark Begich claiming that none of the defunders ever met with him to pitch him on joining them in voting no? He’s a red-state Democrat who’s up for reelection next year; it’s unlikely that he’d break ranks with his caucus, but if any Dem is going to, it’s one who’s in Begich’s position. Instead, he claims, “The only time Ted Cruz said something to me was when I was literally coming to the floor, you know the two tables down by the desk there where you cast your vote. He said, ‘You should vote for this.’ That was it.” Could be that Begich is lying, of course, but if he’s going to lie, there are more self-serving lies he could tell than that one. E.g., “I have grave concerns about ObamaCare, and Senators Cruz and Lee begged to meet with me about them. But once they threatened to shut down the government, I told them ‘Hell, no!’” A lie along those lines would please Alaska GOPers by signaling his alleged “concerns” about O-Care and Alaska Democrats by punching Cruz and Lee. And showing that he was opposed to the shutdown would please both. Instead, he’s making the lesser claim that no one on the defund side ever tried to meet with him. That makes me think it’s true, and if it’s true, why is it true? What did defunders have to lose by feeling him out to see what he’d need to conceivably vote with Republicans against Reid’s amendment stripping the “defund” provisions out of the House bill? Remember, Reid could have lost as many as three Democrats on that and still passed it by simple majority, so he might have let Begich cross the aisle in order to protect himself with reddish Alaska voters. Why not try?



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Juan McAmnesty and his pet dog “Tiddie” Graham are the vanguard of the Vichy Republicans.

They’re about as useful as our Trolls.

kingsjester on October 11, 2013 at 7:23 PM

The people not talking, and not reporting, about the Obamacare debacle are missing the boat. Threatening to not fund Obamacare – which was never going to happen – may have made Ted Cruz the darling of the self-styled base of the GOP but it’s been a public relations disaster as a whole with support for the GOP down to 28%. Make Obama implement this mess as written without any illegal waivers or exceptions and let the damn thing implode from its lack of coherence.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/pa-families-complain-about-high-obamacare-premiumsit-will-take-food-out-of-our-mouths/

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

I pulled my support from the GOP when Rubio went for amnesty for illegals, so if we are going to discuss where the GOP went wrong, let’s explore all the possibilities. Is Obama any more likely to sign a bill stating that no waivers can be given or that well salaried government employees are going not going to be given subsidies than he is the defunding? No. And the media is going to only touch on the disaster that is Obamacare because they will never be honest about him. I understand not being happy about the bad publicity but at least be honest about the fact that the GOP isn’t ever going to get anything else.

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

The people not talking, and not reporting, about the Obamacare debacle are missing the boat. Threatening to not fund Obamacare – which was never going to happen – may have made Ted Cruz the darling of the self-styled base of the GOP but it’s been a public relations disaster as a whole with support for the GOP down to 28%. Make Obama implement this mess as written without any illegal waivers or exceptions and let the damn thing implode from its lack of coherence.

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

And just how the fvck you gonna do that without anything to bargain with? By giving Obama everything he wants? If Cruz et al hadn’t started this in the first place, we wouldn’t even be debating this budget. Sheesh you’re stupid.

chewmeister on October 11, 2013 at 7:39 PM

We are holding you accountable Juan McBlame

SparkPlug on October 11, 2013 at 7:41 PM

We are holding you accountable Juan McBlame

SparkPlug on October 11, 2013 at 7:41 PM

how?

KOOLAID2 on October 11, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Yep, if John McCain is the future of the Repub party, they can f-in have it, I’m all done.

wkgdyw on October 11, 2013 at 8:06 PM

We need to send Boehner a white flag to carry while he’s negotiating his surrender.

bluefox on October 11, 2013 at 8:07 PM

No offense to old men in general. I’m one myself, but McCain is a crabby and jealous old man. He doesn’t much appreciate younger men stealing the limelight. John-time to move over. Retirement is an option you know.

JimGeb on October 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM

logman1 on October 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM

You can count on my financial support – Graham needs retirement.

disa on October 11, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Mark Levin said McConnell is appointing Collins as negotiator and Boehner has appointed Amnesty Ryan. These two will plan surrender for future “negotiations” after these short terms expire 12/15/13.

bluefox on October 11, 2013 at 8:12 PM

McCain needs to go. All the Old Guard need to go. They lose election after election and do zero to shrink government while in power. McCain cares about McCain, about being a hero, about not being considered “extreme” by the MSM. The GOP wins, he stays in power, the GOP loses, he stays in power and gets to play peacekeeper.

I’m so amazingly sick of this man.

29Victor on October 11, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Off topic, red letters on Drudge:

MSNBC President Wants ‘Investigation’ Into Fox News’ ‘Impossible’ Ratings Gain

Bwahahahahahahaha!

peski on October 11, 2013 at 8:17 PM

The voters of Arizona are who need to be held accountable for sending this slimy snake to the Senate.

rich8450 on October 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM

So far the best explanation of McCain & other establishment Republicans anger at the Tea Party is that the Tea Party Congressmen aren’t beholden to corporate interests. If the base begins funding candidates it cuts out the lobbyists. This terrifies McCain’s corporate masters and could spell the end of the gravy train for Old Guard politicians.

29Victor on October 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM

I can,t do anything about McCain but there maybe a good chance that we voters here in S.C. can rid you if his lapdog Graham.logman1 on October 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM

You mentioned possibly 4 Candidates. I’m well aware of Nancy Mace,
Lee Bright and Richard Cash. There was another person that was Active or Reserve Service that was going to make a decision, but I’ve forgotten his name. Do you know his name and if he has decided?

Thanks,

bluefox on October 11, 2013 at 8:32 PM

If the base begins funding candidates it cuts out the lobbyists. This terrifies McCain’s corporate masters and could spell the end of the gravy train for Old Guard politicians.

29Victor on October 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM

I just read something in the past couple of days that even if we contribute to a Candidate, a portion goes to the GOP anyway. I’ll look to see if I saved the info and if so will post it.

bluefox on October 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM

One thing you have to remember about Obamacare is that much of the financial pain, such as steep penalties, is back ended so that by the time people wake up to reality, the law has been operating for years and it’s too late.

Here’s yet another example, the subsidies for state exchanges disappear in 2015, and that’s going to bust state budgets.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/10/2015-financial-time-bomb-in-state-healthcare-exchanges/

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

And just how the fvck you gonna do that without anything to bargain with? By giving Obama everything he wants? If Cruz et al hadn’t started this in the first place, we wouldn’t even be debating this budget. Sheesh you’re stupid.

chewmeister on October 11, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Obama doesn’t want to implement Obamacare as written. He wants a partial shutdown which he – and Allahpundit for reasons he should explain – call a shutdown.

The GOP is losing that battle when they could win the Obamacare implementation battle by standing fast for legal implementation – which Obama doesn’t want – or no implementation at all. The partial shutdown has taken the public’s attention away from the fact Obamacare is a disastrously drafted clusterf*ck.

You are the stupid one. Ted Cruz is smart and he’s caught a lot of suckers in that filibuster net he set.

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM

The boondoggle is being portrayed as a major failure. Which it is.

But readiness for prime time is no more a concern of the White House than it was when Obamacare originally was passed and no one in the White House or Democratic circles cared whether it was fully understood or functional as a law.

What matters to the White House is constructing a structure to Obamacare which, over time, becomes more difficult to repeal.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/10/white-house-doesnt-care-if-healthcare-gov-is-ready-as-long-as-it-exists/

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Senator Crash McCain has had one to many concussions. He should retire.

paulsur on October 11, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Seriously it would better if McCain left and joined the Dems. Same goes for a few other Republicans. Why?

They would uncut the Dems by trying to form “gangs” with the Republicans. That is what they do…undercut their own party.

I saw a piece on Ace of Spades a few days ago about what kind of Republican do we want. I don’t mind a RINO like Republican from a blue state, but I do mind one from a Red state. Also those Republicans from Blue state and even purple state must NOT be given leadership positions. Those positions must go to conservative Republicans from red states who make up the base of this party. I am not asking for perfection, but I am asking that the party be led by people who represent what the party is about, not mavericks who make secrete side deals with the opposition, and Republicans from purple/blue states.

William Eaton on October 11, 2013 at 8:42 PM

The GOP is losing that battle when they could win the Obamacare implementation battle by standing fast for legal implementation – which Obama doesn’t want – or no implementation at all. The partial shutdown has taken the public’s attention away from the fact Obamacare is a disastrously drafted clusterf*ck.

You are the stupid one. Ted Cruz is smart and he’s caught a lot of suckers in that filibuster net he set.

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Uh huh.

And your lawsuit is where?

Your subpoenas against Obama’s entire administration to force them to testify as to what tortured logic they’re using to not implement the law?

Your arresting people for contempt of Congress?

You pussies keep promising a fight, but you won’t do it. Instead you mewl and cry about how you WOULD fight, really, but those Tea Partiers are so mean and your Obama media friends are so dreamy…

northdallasthirty on October 11, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

I pulled my support from the GOP when Rubio went for amnesty for illegals, so if we are going to discuss where the GOP went wrong, let’s explore all the possibilities. Is Obama any more likely to sign a bill stating that no waivers can be given or that well salaried government employees are going not going to be given subsidies than he is the defunding? No. And the media is going to only touch on the disaster that is Obamacare because they will never be honest about him. I understand not being happy about the bad publicity but at least be honest about the fact that the GOP isn’t ever going to get anything else.

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

In supporting amnesty Rubio’s was supporting something which s bad for the country and bad for the GOP. It was brain dead and Rubio – as I predicted- is now finished as a presidential contender. It’s not a case of convincing Obama not to sign waivers it’s a case of convincing the public that Obamacare is such a drafting disaster that Obama is breaking the law and refusing to implement it as written.

The stories about Obamacare being a mess will emerge. The impact of this clusterf*ck will be too widespread to ignore.

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

The boondoggle is being portrayed as a major failure. Which it is.

But readiness for prime time is no more a concern of the White House than it was when Obamacare originally was passed and no one in the White House or Democratic circles cared whether it was fully understood or functional as a law.

What matters to the White House is constructing a structure to Obamacare which, over time, becomes more difficult to repeal.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/10/white-house-doesnt-care-if-healthcare-gov-is-ready-as-long-as-it-exists/

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM

I don’t think the American public will tolerate this boondoggle. It is does, the situation has moved well beyond hopeless.

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM

To add to what I said…

Look who leads Democratic Party: Pelosi, Reid and Obama. They have people leading them who believe what they are fighting for. Sometimes they make deals, yes of course, but there is no doubt that they are true believers in what the Dem base believes in. They speak with conviction and without any hesitation in the truth as they see it.

Our side is led by Boehner, McConnell, McCain, etc. People who when they talk about their base act like it is a burden on them. They don’t talk with conviction because deep down they don’t really believe in conservative values or ideals, or lets put it this way they fear the world thinking they believe in conservative values.

No wonder Rand Paul looks like a stalwart conservative now even to social cons, because compared to the leadership he is! Now Cruz comes along and it is like they are freaking out because Cruz actually believes in what he saying.

The party has to be led by people who believe in conservatism, not those that don’t. They don’t have to be perfect conservatives, or agree with everything I or anyone else of believes in, but at least be in the 75-80% range and they must be proud in who they are. Can we at least get that? Pride…folks…Pride!

William Eaton on October 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM

logman1 on October 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM

You mentioned possibly 4 Candidates. I’m well aware of Nancy Mace,
Lee Bright and Richard Cash. There was another person that was Active or Reserve Service that was going to make a decision, but I’ve forgotten his name. Do you know his name and if he has decided?

Thanks,

bluefox on October 11, 2013 at 8:32 PM

I checked my notes and this is what I have:

http://columbia-sc.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/bill-connor-could-be-next-to-challenge-graham

bluefox on October 11, 2013 at 8:56 PM

If Cruz & Lee hadn’t started talking about it, not ONE DAAMN THING would have ever happened. They would have approved the clean CR & Debt ceiling, just like every other time.

Those liars ran and won in 2010 on DEFUNDING O-CARE and haven’t lifted a finger, except for theater votes to defund it. They are playing us for fools.

stenwin77 on October 11, 2013 at 9:01 PM

They are playing us for fools.

stenwin77 on October 11, 2013 at 9:01 PM

You are still being played? Well, time for you move on to better things. I stopped being played in early 2011 when they said that something closer to 10 million in savings along with 200 billion in new spending was the same as the original $100 billion in cuts they would implement in the first 30 days. Of course, I was a short time fool back then having only returned to the flock after leaving in 2008 the moment McCain voted for TARP. Not that I was close to the party from 1999 after when Gingrich left. But I did vote every election until 2008. Each harder than the last.

astonerii on October 11, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Something Profound and Dramatic Needs to Happen To McCain NOW!!

What do you think is appropriate?

williamg on October 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Yeah Johnny Mac…

Well, you ran for President with no chance of winning! Do you want to include that in your accountability logic?

zdpl0a on October 11, 2013 at 9:22 PM

What do you think is appropriate?

williamg on October 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Lightning strike.
Hail and Brimstone.
Locusts.

astonerii on October 11, 2013 at 9:23 PM

The American people believed that Benedict Arnold was a hero until they found out he was a traitor, McCain’s day is coming!

savage24 on October 11, 2013 at 9:23 PM

northdallasthirty on October 11, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly!!!! Just like Krauthammer/Kristol/Rove insisting that the defund route was wrong. They constantly assured us there were other ways of attacking, all the while never alluding to what they were.

The debt ceiling is where the fight is. No, the CR is where the fight is. The sequester is where the fight is. OK, we really mean it this time, that debt ceiling is where we make our stand. OK, no really. The CR. That is where the fight is. Seriously, this time it is the debt……

Hit the nail on the head NoDal.

Cruz is the man!!!!

JAGonzo on October 11, 2013 at 9:26 PM

The American people believed that Benedict Arnold was a hero until they found out he was a traitor, McCain’s day is coming!

savage24 on October 11, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Actually, the American people over looked Benedict Arnold’s heroism, and when he discovered he was never going to be rewarded for that heroism, he chose to change sides to a group that promised to fulfill that aspect. Why would he never be rewarded? Because he sustained injury in one of his heroic acts and was deemed unreliable as a commander.

astonerii on October 11, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Flush twice for McCain.

I swear to God on the altar I will give no money nor a single vote to the GOP while this a**hat is “in charge.”

harlekwin15 on October 11, 2013 at 9:34 PM

I hate this piece of shit with a passion and I hope when he does die..it’s Painful and Slow!

Tbone McGraw on October 11, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Tbone McGraw on October 11, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Why? Nothing in this life is as bad as is likely awaiting him in the next life.

astonerii on October 11, 2013 at 9:39 PM

I am a staunch republican and voted for this asshat. I now want his head on a political stick. Time for the likes of him and his buddy Lindsey Graham to be voted off the island.

mouell on October 11, 2013 at 10:02 PM

When I see this guy I see a two time loser that helped put Obama in the White House in the first place. I should listen to his advice because?

iceman1960 on October 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM

He is such a Richard cranium. His daughter too.

Zorro on October 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

McCain, as Cronyn admitted, is one of the ‘Establishment’ GOP dinosaurs who were/are petrified they will be blamed for the entire shutdown. He was and still is pi$$ed Cruz didn’t respect the GOP heirarchy and did not kiss his ring/@$$ as a Jr member of the House.

He could care less about the Constitution, that Obama’s 2,200 waivers represent 2,200 violations of the Constitution, and believes it is better to ‘live’ on his knees allowing Obama to rule as a dictator while protecting his own job rather than fight on his feet for the good of the nation!

What a gutless, self-serving POSl

easyt65 on October 11, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Shut up already Mclame. Recall that Bozo Arizona.

2Tru2Tru on October 11, 2013 at 11:19 PM

McCain and McConnell need to leave the Senate and never come back or be heard from again.

hoakie on October 11, 2013 at 11:22 PM

The NEW Republican party…

Where do I sign up?

KCsecurity1976 on October 11, 2013 at 11:46 PM

McCain, the Democrat from Arizona (the state where I happen to reside) has forgotten that the role of Congress is to provide a venue where combat over limited resources may be conducted by other means. It is an ordered society’s way of enabling people to contest in behalf of their own interests, against the interests of others.

When people like McCain forget that they’re there to represent the State that elected them, they become part of the problem, not the solution. His job – and that of everyone else we sent to Congress – is to engage in combat, join the fray, conduct war in our behalf to protect our interests. But these tools – RINOs all – forget, they come to think their job is to “keep the government open.”

Nuts to that! Guess what? Since the gov’t has been shut down these fools haven’t been able to reach deeper into my pocket or yours. I’m happy for the gov’t to be shut down while they engage in the pitched battles we sent them there to fight.

Sadly, America is getting the government it deserves. We’re the ones who keep sending these Quislings back to D.C.

Grab your pitchfolks, shovels and brooms. Let’s sweep the whole d*mn lot of them out in 2014.

microfiction on October 11, 2013 at 11:51 PM

The stories about Obamacare being a mess will emerge. The impact of this clusterf*ck will be too widespread to ignore.

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Great idea – remember when the TSA was feeling up elderly people, disconnecting their ostomy bags, fondling women & children & stealing items from peoples luggage – all the while never catching a single terrorist, and the People rose up against this violation? That uprising was awesome, or something.

/

batterup on October 11, 2013 at 11:51 PM

…and John McCain has managed to make himself an even bigger self-serving, self-aggrandizing ****piece than he was yesterday and the day before that. Didn’t think it possible, honestly.

Dunedainn on October 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM

“Seriously it would better if McCain left and joined the Dems. Same goes for a few other Republicans. Why?

They would ‘undercut’ the Dems by trying to form “gangs” with the Republicans. That is what they do…undercut their own party.

I saw a piece on Ace of Spades a few days ago about what kind of Republican do we want. I don’t mind a RINO like ‘a’ Republican from a blue state, but I do mind one from a Red state. Also those Republicans from Blue states and even purple states must NOT be given leadership positions. Those positions must go to conservative Republicans from red states who make up the base of this party. I am not asking for perfection, but I am asking that the party be led by people who represent what the party is about, not mavericks who make secret side deals with the opposition, and Republicans from purple/blue states.

William Eaton on October 11, 2013 at 8:42 PM”

I’m with you Mr. Eaton!!!

shorebird on October 11, 2013 at 11:53 PM

The people complacent with spending us an extra 8 Trilling into the hold should be help accountable – wait, he probable didn’t mean that…

rgranger on October 11, 2013 at 11:58 PM

crikey – into the hole…

rgranger on October 11, 2013 at 11:58 PM

No one supports this pathetic little man on his own Facebook page. The comments are brutal. Who the heck supports him?

fight like a girl on October 12, 2013 at 12:03 AM

No one supports this pathetic little man on his own Facebook page. The comments are brutal. Who the heck supports him?

fight like a girl on October 12, 2013 at 12:03 AM

The Democrats that cross over during every GOP primary.

Dunedainn on October 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM

The stories about Obamacare being a mess will emerge. The impact of this clusterf*ck will be too widespread to ignore.

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Great idea – remember when the TSA was feeling up elderly people, disconnecting their ostomy bags, fondling women & children & stealing items from peoples luggage – all the while never catching a single terrorist, and the People rose up against this violation? That uprising was awesome, or something.

batterup on October 11, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Basil, we are the uprising. Uprisings start with small groups of people and they aren’t necessarily tidy and don’t follow rules of order. However, we’re unlikely to use the guillotine. I personally prefer tar and feathers.

obladioblada on October 12, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Pasty ole white dude speaks. We should like, like, really ummm, listen to him! Like umm the same way we listen to his big tittie pasty dough like daughter! Oh yes.

/Gong Show Material – the lot of them

Key West Reader on October 12, 2013 at 12:29 AM

Whatever one thinks of McCain politically, he is right about this.

rlwo2008 on October 12, 2013 at 12:45 AM

rlwo2008 on October 12, 2013 at 12:45 AM

He’s never been more wrong. And for McCain, that’s saying a hell of a lot.

Cylor on October 12, 2013 at 12:53 AM

Maybe McCain wouldn’t seem so bad when he crosses over the aisle if the guys on the other side had a hint of financial responsibility and understood even the most basic of individual liberty. But they don’t, and they never will. They’re leftists, marxists and freedom haters. So, when McCain crosses over he’s helping their side, because they’ve now shown that they won’t give an inch.

HiJack on October 12, 2013 at 12:57 AM

John Boehner now has at least one PRIMARY opponent.

http://www.gurrforcongress.com/about.html

Keep pounding their social media, email, local offices with phone calls, make them feel the heat.

Find good primary opponents and show the Establishment Progressive republicans that if they want a Civil war, WE will win it, and THEY can leave the party.

PappyD61 on October 12, 2013 at 12:58 AM

“Whatever one thinks of McCain politically, he is right about this.

rlwo2008 on October 12, 2013 at 12:45 AM”

Ummm… This loser is just, well, a loser and is almost always wrong on the issues! His pet-poodle, who’s-it “Lohan???” is even dumber.
I would rather take a bath in the polls than make deals with his “friends” and lose our country.

shorebird on October 12, 2013 at 1:11 AM

“Basil, we are the uprising. Uprisings start with small groups of people and they aren’t necessarily tidy and don’t follow rules of order. However, we’re unlikely to use the guillotine. I personally prefer tar and feathers.

obladioblada on October 12, 2013 at 12:16 AM”

Hmmm… hot tar and feathers vs the blade.
OK! I will go with you for the tar and feathers.
It’s much more painful and humiliating.
These bastards need MUCH more pain and humiliation.

However, I bet that some of them would sign up to pay for it during a a weekend retreat…
Maybe we should, at least, keep the guillotine as an option.

shorebird on October 12, 2013 at 1:27 AM

So when is he going to be held accontable for being a RINO douchebag?

LCT688 on October 12, 2013 at 1:29 AM

It just never ends with him, does it? Just shut the hell up, John, and retire.

Timothy S. Carlson on October 12, 2013 at 1:36 AM

Make Obama implement this mess as written without any illegal waivers or exceptions and let the damn thing implode from its lack of coherence.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/pa-families-complain-about-high-obamacare-premiumsit-will-take-food-out-of-our-mouths/

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Cruz’s plan being doomed or not is irrelevent at this point. Don’t you see? Its about principles now. Its about a law that makes us all outright slaves, property of the government. God help me, I just caught some of Hannity’s panel from tonight with some Dem strategists defending their lord and master’s plan. They’re all sheeple.

You can play the emotional argument about payments and it might work but you expect the media to not counter it? The plan won’t go away, its supporters think its “settled law” because the oh so holy taco supreme court ruled. Watching a black woman on Hannity’s show mention that “settled law” was a laugh. I yelled at the screen, “I’m Dred Scott and I approve that message.”

McLameo et. al. can go to hell, the feckless turncoats.

oryguncon on October 12, 2013 at 2:08 AM

So what is the endgame with capitulation? More creeping socialism? Less Freedom? Perhaps we need to suffer more until we can elect more republicans (so they can capitulate more freedoms by co-opting liberal programs like no child left behind and medicare part-d)

Hello Libertarian Party. F off McCain, Paul Ryan, and Boehner. You all suck.

Chubbs65 on October 12, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Damn the Vietnamese… for releasing this jackass.

profitsbeard on October 12, 2013 at 2:16 AM

I don’t think he’s talking about our side/the Tea Party. “The people who created this Shutdown” could be just about anybody…

The Nerve on October 12, 2013 at 2:29 AM

Hmmm. It seems to be the consensus then that McCain should just STFU and Cruz bears no responsibility for the chain of events he set in motion.

Oh, well.

At least remember that all this was foretold, and it didn’t take a telephone psychic to figure it out. This is what happens when you start a stampede without thinking about it, planning the options, and talking to the other hands first.

Adjoran on October 12, 2013 at 2:42 AM

McCain is such an egotistical windbag.Yesterday he was apologizing for calling Cruz/Lee “whacko-birds”, today he criticizes them for having the audacity to actually try and defund the insidious Obamacare.Somedays Juan just can’t keep things straight.This morning he cleaned his dentures with hemmarhoid cream and brushed his butt with Dentu Cream.His dentures shrunk and fell out but his brain was spic and span.Just STFU RINO king!

redware on October 12, 2013 at 5:19 AM

Piss off McCain. Your finished in politics.

TX-96 on October 12, 2013 at 6:12 AM

Two republican parties? Not true : their is the tea party conservatives and then their are those Democrats who stealthfully have posed as conservatives in the elite GOP wing of the left.
No there4

Don L on October 12, 2013 at 6:14 AM

Juan McAmnesty and his pet dog “Tiddie” Graham are the vanguard of the Vichy Republicans.

They’re about as useful as our Trolls.

kingsjester on October 11, 2013 at 7:23 PM

The RINOsaurs must go.

disa on October 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM

Why would anyone still admit to being or want to be a Republican?

Over50 on October 12, 2013 at 6:59 AM

How about we hold those responsible for passing Obamacare responsible for the clusterfrack it has become? As predicted…

ProfShadow on October 12, 2013 at 7:16 AM

Hey McCain:

People who have been in the Senate while they accrued a 17 trillion dollar debt and stole the social security lock box also should be held accountable.

What’s in your wallet?

WryTrvllr on October 12, 2013 at 7:38 AM

Why would anyone still admit to being or want to be a Republican?

Over50 on October 12, 2013 at 6:59 AM

Easy. Because claiming to be a liberal or a democrat is like claiming your fully “challenged”.

We just have to deal with the slow learners.

WryTrvllr on October 12, 2013 at 7:40 AM

I just read something in the past couple of days that even if we contribute to a Candidate, a portion goes to the GOP anyway. I’ll look to see if I saved the info and if so will post it.

bluefox on October 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Beck was talking about that. He said the only way to get around support for the GOP is giving money to groups that support conservative candidates, i.e. Conservative Senator organization, FreedomWorks, etc.

stenwin77 on October 12, 2013 at 7:44 AM

The medical device tax was probably a red herring so at some point down the line when Conservatives hold the Admin hostage, they’ll have something to “throw in” to appear to compromise. (like now)

Remember, Harry called it a stupid tax.

stenwin77 on October 12, 2013 at 8:01 AM

The lefties on both sides of the aisle are hell bent on destroying the middle class.

Why?

Because you can’t have a Marxist/communist/socialist government with an intact middle class.

These polls are bogus and are framed to make the American people
(read Sheeple) find fault with conservatives.

The lefties have taken over both parties. It is up to conservatives to right the ship. Are we up for the challenge?
I say, hell yes!

If you are a weakling, don’t “apply” to the conservative way of thinking; we don’t want you! And some politicians will find this out in 2014!

Amjean on October 12, 2013 at 8:14 AM

I will party hardy the day I either hear this worthless moldy old piece of RINO crap McCain announces his retirement from the Senate or the SOB is soundly voted out of office!

I can no longer stand this man! He is supposed to be a war hero? He is a sniveling dog of a gutless coward and he is a worthless and conniving appeaser!

He is no friend and ally of either the new breed of young Republicans or of the revitalized and reenergized Tea Party. If anything, he is now their enemy and should be justly treated as such!

pilamaye on October 12, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Time to clean out Republican “leadership” and find some new blood who won’t push Amnesty (McCain, Graham, Cornyn, Rubio, Cantor, Goodlatte, Corker et alia). Boehner and McConnell are both weak and ineffectual. What a mess!

DaMav on October 12, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Senator McCain,
I give you respect for your service, both in the military and on behalf of your state of Arizona. But, you have strayed too far from the fold. Please consider retirement before the next election cycle as I would hate to primary you out- you deserve to retire with some morsel of dignity.

Casper the Friendly Host on October 12, 2013 at 8:17 AM

My take.

kingsjester on October 12, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Here in NH we have a local car dealer ad campaign called ” not a good negotiator?” We need McCain and Boehner, Graham , et al featured in their spots.
What a load of crap. Tea Party rightly sticks it’s neck out to stop the take over of our country by socialists, and the GOP base f’s it up. I blame McCain, AND our own Kelly Ayotte for this debacle. She isn’t getting my vote here in NH. And I was an avid supporter. It is all so bloody sad. So sad. White flags all around for the GOP, amnesty, ObamaCare, high taxes, and lost freedoms. Ugh.

evilcon555 on October 12, 2013 at 8:21 AM

And PS. No John – YOU need to be held accountable. Shameful actions coming from a “hero”. Please just go away. The damage is now done.

evilcon555 on October 12, 2013 at 8:24 AM

The stories about Obamacare being a mess will emerge. The impact of this clusterf*ck will be too widespread to ignore.

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Great idea – remember when the TSA was feeling up elderly people, disconnecting their ostomy bags, fondling women & children & stealing items from peoples luggage – all the while never catching a single terrorist, and the People rose up against this violation? That uprising was awesome, or something.

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batterup on October 11, 2013 at 11:51 PM

You struck out. The minor annoyances of the TSA will seem like a Sunday Picnic compared to trying to get health care coverage at similar or reasonable costs. Educate yourself.

Start here:

http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2013/10/11/1800totalfail-one-mans-obamawreck-nightmare-n1721254/page/full

Basilsbest on October 12, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Ahhhhhhh Yes, yet another rant from the failed, bluster-in-chief wannabe.
At least we knew that Foghorn Leghorn was a cartoon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LCsiWL6gn0

*sigh*
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on October 12, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

You give a lot more credit to the American public than I do. Especially when there is a media couching this FUBAR as cute, temporary and the sign of a glorious product available to all once the launch rush has slowed.

Cindy Munford on October 12, 2013 at 9:15 AM

You give a lot more credit to the American public than I do. Especially when there is a media couching this FUBAR as cute, temporary and the sign of a glorious product available to all once the launch rush has slowed.

Cindy Munford on October 12, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Yup.

oryguncon on October 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM

He’s right in one sense. We will remember those who stood up for us and be accountable for them. At least they stood up for the country and the people, and tried to win unlike those of his ilk who couldn’t even muster the will for that. I want my vote back, McLame, even Sarah isn’t worth this.

Kissmygrits on October 12, 2013 at 9:54 AM

STFU, McCain. It’s your buddy Obama who shut down the govt by refusing to negotiate.

WannabeAnglican on October 12, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Alternate headline:

John McCain Gives Republicans their Daily Dose of Discouragement

Stop listening to this old, worn out, unstable fool.
He does nothing more for the morale of Republicans than do Democrats or the MSM.

lynncgb on October 12, 2013 at 10:05 AM

John Boehner now has at least one PRIMARY opponent.

http://www.gurrforcongress.com/about.html

Keep pounding their social media, email, local offices with phone calls, make them feel the heat.

Find good primary opponents and show the Establishment Progressive republicans that if they want a Civil war, WE will win it, and THEY can leave the party.

PappyD61 on October 12, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Just checked out Gurr’s website. His stated positions, at least the way he has written them, sound almost gratuitously RINO like. Ie vote for me I’m conservative, but then when he gets there he’ll vote and tow the party line like a RINO.

bgibbs1000 on October 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Or friends in Arizona should recall this senile Senator. He must be held accountable. The others that he is criticizing? Thank you all for doing the right thing, and fighting against Obamacare. You know, the exact thing you told the voters you would do if (re) elected!!!

shanimal on October 12, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Die, you old Democrat in drag. You have done enough in your lifetime to ruin the GOP and the USA. Just #*($^ die.

iconoclast on October 12, 2013 at 10:59 AM

McLame is long over due to be sent out to pasture. A opportunistic S^*0^*B who has only been in it for him self. When I have been around him I got impression that he felt the American people owed him. He doesn’t care about the American people he just likes to strut around and act all high and mighty. If it wasn’t for his father, grandfather getting people to look the other way and Vietnam nobody would have every heard of him. Saw more than one good conservative get knee caped by him when they didn’t kneel and kiss his. JD Hayworth is probably the best example of this. Say what you want about JD he was a true Regan conservative.

1grumpybear on October 12, 2013 at 2:41 PM

McCain is just mad at Cruz because someone messed up his maverick sand pile. McCain don’t worry, you and Peter King can start a new gang!

mobydutch on October 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM

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