McCain: The people behind the “defund ObamaCare” strategy must be held “accountable”

posted at 3:21 pm on October 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

The key bit comes at the very end, in response to a question about who’s responsible for the temporary suspension of death benefits to families of fallen troops. McCain’s answer: Everyone in Congress — but, implicitly, especially the “defund” caucus. You can tell how eager Maverick was to make that point by how quickly he turns a segment about the administration giving short shrift to the military — normally an easy lay-up for a Republican against a Democratic president — into a lament about Cruz et al. I’m not sure a guy who’s positioned himself as the lead Republican opponent of the “wacko birds” should be ruminating on holding people accountable, but if he’s leaning towards not running again in 2016, he’s got nothing to lose. No doubt he’s enjoying sticking it to tea partiers immensely.

If nothing else, this clip illustrates the slightly (but only slightly) exaggerated truth that “there are now two Republican parties.” Case in point:

Tea Party Republicans approve of the job congressional Republicans are doing by a 72%-25% margin. However, a plurality of NON-Tea Party Republicans disapprove by a 49%-42% In addition, 69% of Tea Party Republicans believe the GOP is demonstrating strong leadership and standing up for what they believe in, versus 29% of them who say they’re putting their political agenda ahead of what’s good for the country. But those numbers are reversed among NON-Tea Party Republicans — 53% say they’re putting politics first, while 41% think Republicans are standing up for what they believe in. And then there’s this: Among Tea Party Republicans, Ted Cruz has a 52%-4% fav/unfav rating. But among non-Tea Party it’s 13%-23%.

Either that rift is healed in the next two years or the primary campaign in 2015 is going to be … really something. One question for the “defund” supporters, though: If this really was about trying to build consensus in Congress to stop O-Care, why is Mark Begich claiming that none of the defunders ever met with him to pitch him on joining them in voting no? He’s a red-state Democrat who’s up for reelection next year; it’s unlikely that he’d break ranks with his caucus, but if any Dem is going to, it’s one who’s in Begich’s position. Instead, he claims, “The only time Ted Cruz said something to me was when I was literally coming to the floor, you know the two tables down by the desk there where you cast your vote. He said, ‘You should vote for this.’ That was it.” Could be that Begich is lying, of course, but if he’s going to lie, there are more self-serving lies he could tell than that one. E.g., “I have grave concerns about ObamaCare, and Senators Cruz and Lee begged to meet with me about them. But once they threatened to shut down the government, I told them ‘Hell, no!’” A lie along those lines would please Alaska GOPers by signaling his alleged “concerns” about O-Care and Alaska Democrats by punching Cruz and Lee. And showing that he was opposed to the shutdown would please both. Instead, he’s making the lesser claim that no one on the defund side ever tried to meet with him. That makes me think it’s true, and if it’s true, why is it true? What did defunders have to lose by feeling him out to see what he’d need to conceivably vote with Republicans against Reid’s amendment stripping the “defund” provisions out of the House bill? Remember, Reid could have lost as many as three Democrats on that and still passed it by simple majority, so he might have let Begich cross the aisle in order to protect himself with reddish Alaska voters. Why not try?



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Fluke you, you coot of the world!

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2013 at 3:22 PM

This and this and this

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

One question for the “defund” supporters, though: If this really was about trying to build consensus in Congress to stop O-Care, why is Mark Begich claiming that none of the defunders ever met with him to pitch him on joining them in voting no?

Because it’s not about “building consensus.” It’s about ensuring that they have no other choice — something which is far easier to accomplish when your own side isn’t selling you out.

Stoic Patriot on October 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

McVain’s father and grandpa hate what he’s become, from their graves.

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

I think the people of AZ should be held accountable.

pain train on October 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Wow, didnt’ take Mr. “Wacko-Bird” long to start attacking his fellow Republicans after calling for a truce.

makattak on October 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Giap is in Gehenna, but are there any other vc left that can take this 0lde windbag from us?

Murphy9 on October 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

I probably would not vote for McCain again and I’m sorry I voted for him last time!

gullxn on October 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Look how the leftists ‘love’ this guy.

They hate, hate, hate Ted Cruz.

Guess who will be supported in 2016?

May Hillary win all the way! Pelosi should get the hammer in 2015. She earned it and deserves it!

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM

I voted for this jerk. What a downer.

GaltBlvnAtty on October 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM

It is looking like the Republicans are going to be held accountable.

If they do not stop Obamacare here and now, then in 2014 I will work to help kick every last one out of office that I can.

We have the power of the purse and we have accomplished not one thing since 2011. Nothing at all.

Party of enabling.

astonerii on October 11, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Eff of Quisling!

annoyinglittletwerp on October 11, 2013 at 3:27 PM

F*** you John.

jawkneemusic on October 11, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Why not try?

Presumably the targets of this exercise were Republicans. Not much point in chasing red state Dem votes if you can’t get your own party behind you.

Doomberg on October 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM

McCain is in a panic. He better watch out for stroke symptoms..

katy on October 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM

I think the people of AZ should be held accountable.

pain train on October 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Indeed. McVain lives to be adored by the leftist media.

Meanwhile the land is full of lice, a very symbolic status of where the D/Rs have taken her.

Yes, it’s on topic. It’s very telling, to the world.

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM

AP, you assume Begich is smart enough to come up with a lie like that about Cruz/Lee.

Bitter Clinger on October 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Stalin had a term for people like you Senator – Useful Idiot! That is exactly what you are to King Obama, a useful idiot.

MPan on October 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Asswipe.

tyketto on October 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Sorry, look how the leftists love this guy. Forgot the link.

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Of course he is immune to ObamaCare, so what does he care about the little people?

He is turning into a little Jimmy Carter, he is even beginning to look like him.

right2bright on October 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

jawkneemusic on October 11, 2013 at 3:27 PM

What he said.

Tsar of Earth on October 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Yes it was a fools errand and had no chance to succeed. That being said, the ONLY people who should hold them accountable are the voters in their districts.

Zaggs on October 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM

How can anyone be surprised that this dipwad would say anything worthwhile and that the GOP won’t fold like a cheap suit.

flytier on October 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM

So I guess McCain isn’t sorry about the “wacko bird” thing after all.

Bitter Clinger on October 11, 2013 at 3:30 PM

I hate the RINOs way more than Pelosi and Kucinich. The latter have convictions.

The Ds run as Rs.

The Rs run as conservatives.

Both reign as rats, ruin the land, and her next generations, while stuffing their pockets and living like royalty.

The behave like thugs, on your hard labor. Quit producing and supporting them. End their entitlements.

None want to live under obama’care’, hardly.

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

McCain is worse than “fundamentally flawed” in the political sense. There has always been something very wrong with his character, which is one of extreme “me-first-and-only” self-entitlement. He was wrongfully admitted to the Naval Academy with bad grades ahead of more qualified applicants because his daddy and granddaddy were admirals. Rules that apply to ordinary people don’t apply to him. He thumbed his nose at Annapolis because he couldn’t be kicked out or flunked out, because he was JOHN MCCAIN, son and grandson of ADMIRALS. He ignored orders and crashed planes, because he couldn’t be disciplined as the son and grandson of admirals. He ditched the wife who stood by him, when he wanted a rich blonde chick young enough to be his daughter, who could finance his political ambition.

He was caught taking bribes to his wife from the Keating 5, so tried to cover his tracks by imposing the McCain-Feingold nonsense on everyone else (laws only apply to everyone else, not to JOHN MCCAIN). He entertained a blonde lobbyist in ways that worried his staff, and improperly pressured the FCC for her in exchange for …., because he is JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!!. He yelled obscenities at other senators who questioned ramming his McCain-Kennedy amnesty through the Senate in the dead of night without debate, and screamed he knew more about it than anyone else – because he is JOHN MCCAIN, a legend in his own mind !!!!!! He has had secret no press allowed meetings to praise Mexico as our dearest friend and closest neighbor, calling enforcement of the laws “Rhetoric”.

As president, McCain, like the man he helped elect. Barack Obama, would have tried to rule by fiat and would make Hugo Chavez look like George Washington. Like the Alice in Wonderland Queen of Hearts, if any GOP congresscritter disagreed with him “OFF WITH HER HEAD- I’m JOHN MCCAIN, KING OF THE UNIVERSE!!!” There has always been something consistently very wrong with McCain’s character. Through it all, this lying unreliable self-aggrandizing megalomaniac poses as a “straight talker”, and is so sick, he probably believes it himself, because he is JOHN MCCAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!, son and grandson of ADMIRALS.

RasThavas on October 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

McCain was on FOX News just a few minutes earlier today but in those few minutes, he managed to smear Mitt Romney while claiming he’d somehow “saved” the nation from “Romneycare” and the rest of his remarks were aimed at the Bad Republicans (my words for the target of his hostilities).

McCain has never looked any more like a simpleton than he does today or did in this latest appearance.

It very well MAY be true/accurate that no defunding of Obamacare could ever occur given the current configuration of party number differential in Congress, that very well may be true. But McCain seizes on every single effort by Republicans (and anyone else except if they’re Democrats) to formulate energy or group cohesion around a cause to win. Count on McCain to appear with his flags of negativity to accuse and exercise contempt for Republicans, the Right, Conservatives especially, anyone who isn’t Leftwing, apparently.

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

I hate you Arizona.

NotCoach on October 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM

eff McCain. Way past time for him to retire!

maables on October 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Hey McVain, Why did you always lie to the voters when you were running for re-election? Liar! You have no honor.

birdwatcher on October 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM

No lie, no exaggeration: every day I hope for a Breaking: Senator Juan McCain (D-Mexico) has died” at HotAir.

Jeddite on October 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Just to annoy both sides

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Guess who will be supported in 2016?

May Hillary win all the way! Pelosi should get the hammer in 2015. She earned it and deserves it!

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM

You are crazy.

GardenGnome on October 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM

McCain’s personality is a bitter one. He’s afflicted with petty jealousies and his frail ego never ceases to show up when it can draw the greatest attention to itself/him by maligning anyone he perceives — ON THE RIGHT — as “competition”.

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Yes it was a fools errand and had no chance to succeed. That being said, the ONLY people who should hold them accountable are the voters in their districts.

Zaggs

Can you tell me today’s megamillions winning numbers too, Ms. Cleo?

xblade on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

This was never about building consensus. No one should have ever believed that. Cruz puts on a great show – the more smoke you blow up his skirt the more he twerks – but I really can’t point to anything he’s done that communicated consensus building over implacability.

dieudonne on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Because it’s not about “building consensus.” It’s about ensuring that they have no other choice — something which is far easier to accomplish when your own side isn’t selling you out.

There’s no scenario where Democrats have “no other choice.” They can choose to let the shutdown play out and see where the chips fall politically, to build pressure on one party or the other.

If this is a simple matter of the GOP holding together and getting what they want, why not hold out for Obama’s resignation?

Allahpundit on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

How are Cruz and Lee going to be held accountable? They were basically just elected in. This is McCain being a hack for his Dem media buddies, and I regret my vote for him in 2008.

mwbri on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

What did defunders have to lose by feeling him out to see what he’d need to conceivably vote with Republicans against Reid’s amendment stripping the “defund” provisions out of the House bill? Remember, Reid could have lost as many as three Democrats on that and still passed it by simple majority, so he might have let Begich cross the aisle in order to protect himself with reddish Alaska voters. Why not try?

Because this is not about winning. It is about fund raising, and self-aggrandizement.

Mr. Arkadin on October 11, 2013 at 3:34 PM

What is a fact…….is that McCain needs to go ahead and admit he’s been masquerading as a conservative for years, and actually is a Democrat in disguise

avagreen on October 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM

From one Naval aviator to another…go fu** yourself – McCain!

FlyNavy on October 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM

McCain knows all about fool’s errands. He’s been on one for most of his life.

What he knows nothing about is being held accountable.

AZCoyote on October 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM

McCain and Obama have a lot in common. Both were affirmative action blights on our country. Obama due to his skin color. McCain due to his father and grandfather.

birdwatcher on October 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Allah is convinced there was never a pathway to defund/delay/repeal Obamacare. He irrationally clings to a false premise. If the house were ever to grow a spine and hold the line; they may have been successful in pressuring the Senate to vote up/down on Ocare delay. This was a highly reasonable option. Manchin publically endorsed the idea. Reid alone blocked its vote in his senate. Several dem senators (at least 8) would have been hard pressed to say no. I don’t believe Obama would veto in light of that immense pressure. There was a pathway, but it requires the Rs to stand on principle; I guess it won’t ever happen.

kpguru on October 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM

If this is a simple matter of the GOP holding together and getting what they want, why not hold out for Obama’s resignation?

Allahpundit on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

‘K.

avagreen on October 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM

If this is a simple matter of the GOP holding together and getting what they want, why not hold out for Obama’s resignation?

Allahpundit on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

LOL. Now that’s a plan I could get behind!

AZCoyote on October 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Horrible man.

LilyBart on October 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM

There’s no scenario where Democrats have “no other choice.” They can choose to let the shutdown play out and see where the chips fall politically, to build pressure on one party or the other.

If this is a simple matter of the GOP holding together and getting what they want, why not hold out for Obama’s resignation?

Allahpundit on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

The scenario in which Democrats would have no other choice would be to force the country into default — using their metaphor, to shoot the hostage. That’s why the shutdown was supposed to be used as an opening salvo indicating seriousness about the debt ceiling.

As soon as they started trying to make the debt ceiling about spending rather than Obamacare, they started sacrificing their position, and now it sounds like they’ve completely given their leverage away.

Stoic Patriot on October 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Cruz stopped his war in Syria.

the_nile on October 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Can you tell me today’s megamillions winning numbers too, Ms. Cleo?

xblade

You don’t have to be psychic to know that the Child-King Obama was never, ever going to sign a law that did away or delayed his signature “achievement”. I mean the SOB wouldn’t find anyone at fault for Benghazi because it would make him look bad. He would never sign on to kill Obamacare. The GOP’s best hope was to start, and stay with, a year delay in the individual mandate and device tax revoke. Totally defensible for the GOP and Barry is stuck having to explain why he treats corporations different than people. Yes that was the last offer from the GOP. But since it was the 3rd or 4th people can be partially honest and say the GOP shutdown the government over defunding Obamacare.

Zaggs on October 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

And McCain you have to be held accountable for not letting Sarah go after Obama in ’08. And by the way if Obamcare is so terrible and is going to be a big failure who will be hurt? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE that’s who! But you jerks want it to take effect and be a train wreck while you jerks in DC can go to the best of doctors, hospitals on OUR DIME! I’m with CRUZ & SARAH!

Herb on October 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Arrrgghh

cmsinaz on October 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

If this is a simple matter of the GOP holding together and getting what they want, why not hold out for Obama’s resignation?

Allahpundit on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Well, that depends Mr AP. Do we believe that prezzy views himself as a god or not?

nobar on October 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

McCain: The people behind the “defund ObamaCare” strategy must be held “accountable”

FIFY.

Steve Z on October 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

No McLame it’s you RINOs that we will hold accountable. His statements just prove how out of touch he is. Retire this buffoon and his buddy Flake and lets see if the people of Arizona can get it right this time.

neyney on October 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

McCain is in a panic. He better watch out for stroke symptoms..

katy on October 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Being a victim of a stroke is a resume enhancement in Congress.

slickwillie2001 on October 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

There’s no scenario where Democrats have “no other choice.” They can choose to let the shutdown play out and see where the chips fall politically, to build pressure on one party or the other.

If this is a simple matter of the GOP holding together and getting what they want, why not hold out for Obama’s resignation?

Allahpundit on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Why not? Where is the harm in doing so? The shutdown is nothing but theater, and there will be no default. Dems are not winning in terms of public relations.

NotCoach on October 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Fluck you, McAnus…in your eye-sockets.

Ragspierre on October 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Just wait,if we do not mess up gaining the Senate (and that is a big if), he will do a Arlen Spector and officially switch to the Dems. John McCain will look out for John McCain.

mwbri on October 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Perhaps the old codger doesn’t realize the “Fools Errand” for how valuable it actually is– not only was the spotlight shone on Ocare immediately before it’s EPIC FAIL (see: Oct 1st ‘rollout’), but those Republicans in the House and Senate that need to be replaced were ‘outed’ for the squishes and ‘go-along-to-get-along’ types they truly are!.

socalcon on October 11, 2013 at 3:40 PM

The Senate hasn’t produced a budget in 5 years, but this imbecile wants to hold Republicans accountable for a shut down.

What a little pissant he is.

grahsco on October 11, 2013 at 3:40 PM

kpguru on October 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Since I’m not an expert, but can think of some laws being repealed, I looked this up:

There are several types of repeals.

First, there are partial repeals where a poorly crafted portion of a law causes problems. For example, the onerous 1099 reporting section of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) was repealed. The rest of the law remains intact so far but that portion was repealed. Another recent example would be how the Patriot Act (2001), the Terrorist Surveillance Act (2006) and the Protect America Act (2007) effectively gutted provisions of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Next, there are repeal and replace laws. In some cases, a previous law is explicitly repealed and replaced with another law. In other cases, the law is implicitly replaced and rendered moot without it being formally repealed. This has been done many times. One recent example would be how the Great Depression era Glass–Steagall banking acts were implicitly and explicitly repealed by various acts, most notably the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999.

And, there have been outright repeals without a replacement. In this situation, a law or regulation is repealed and the act does not contain any replacement law or regulatory authority. One recent example would be the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell Repeal Act of 2010. Another example would be the repeal of laws prohibiting private ownership of gold bullion by US citizens. Sodomy and ‘blue’ laws have been another common area where laws have been repealed without replacement.

More examples at http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/2215/has-the-us-congress-ever-repealed-a-law

avagreen on October 11, 2013 at 3:40 PM

If this is a simple matter of the GOP holding together and getting what they want, why not hold out for Obama’s resignation?

Allahpundit on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Reductio ad absurdum (Latin: “reduction to absurdity”), also known as argumentum ad absurdum (Latin: argument to absurdity).

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM

I think the people of AZ should be held accountable.

pain train on October 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

this is great!

gracie on October 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM

slickwillie2001 on October 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Exibit A: Harry Reid

katy on October 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Because this is not about winning. It is about fund raising, and self-aggrandizement.

Mr. Arkadin on October 11, 2013 at 3:34 PM

…self-aggrandizement… Now there’s something you’ll never find McCain guilty of…

de rigueur on October 11, 2013 at 3:42 PM

There’s no scenario where Democrats have “no other choice.” They can choose to let the shutdown play out and see where the chips fall politically, to build pressure on one party or the other.

If this is a simple matter of the GOP holding together and getting what they want, why not hold out for Obama’s resignation?

Allahpundit on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Obama was forced to sign the bill to pay the families of deceased troops.

Piecemeal could work if GOP stay on message like liberals.

the_nile on October 11, 2013 at 3:42 PM

How are Cruz and Lee going to be held accountable? They were basically just elected in. This is McCain being a hack for his Dem media buddies, and I regret my vote for him in 2008.

mwbri on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

McCain by now is predictable in these statements and when he makes them: his intent continues to appear to be to insult the Right. Something about his personality just can’t stand any confidence among the Right and though he seems to root around to find some timely point to make, respective to when he makes these statements, that is rooted in reality legislatively but is motivated instead by an uglier, personally embittered point of view about the Right (thus, he’ll find something that sounds keyed to the times but are motivated by something bent in his mind about others).

Does he ever speak out when Democrats, Liberals, effect bad times and engage in bad moves?

I never agree with “all” views by every Republican or anyone else. None of us is a clone of another. I do think it’s wrong on a personal level to knock people when they’re making constructive efforts toward a respectable goal. But that seems to be what motivates McCain, to knock any constructive movement on the Right.

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

zzzzzz…does anybody listen to McCain after he lost the Presidential election?

albill on October 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

There’s no scenario where Democrats have “no other choice.” They can choose to let the shutdown play out and see where the chips fall politically, to build pressure on one party or the other.

I can tell you, from their actions, that the Dems don’t care if their approval ratings fall below 5%…wish the same were true of the Republicans.

In the status quo, conservatism loses : liberalism wins.

socalcon on October 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Obama was forced to sign the bill to pay the families of deceased troops.

Piecemeal could work if GOP stay on message like liberals.

the_nile on October 11, 2013 at 3:42 PM

DITTO.

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 3:44 PM

The problem with Jackasses like McCain is that they have spent so much time in the Senate that they have lost sight of what it is supposed to so. To them it has become an entity unto itself, separate from the People and the Republic. He strives to be liked and cooperate with his colleagues rather than fight for the Citizens and the Country.

clippermiami on October 11, 2013 at 3:44 PM

i am so proud of the true conservatives/tea partiers in the House and Senate for keeping up the fight and holding all the old farts’ and obama’s feet to fire. keep going as long as you can…don’t give up

gracie on October 11, 2013 at 3:44 PM

A runner’s winning a race.

He crosses the finish line, gasping but winning.

McCain jumps on the track and screams, “but you’re shoe is untied, that’s a fail right there!”

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM

The longer this kind of behavior and rhetoric goes on,
the more I’m waiting for a certain person to speak out…

..come on Girl….

ToddPA on October 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM

“Maverick!”

That’s what this senile old coot should be yelling from his bed in the old folks home. He’s a vicious, vapid, dull-witted dinosaur who has become the Dems favorite tool in every sense of the word.

Trust me, John, they’re not laughing with you, but at you.

Please, I’m begging anyone within earshot of this imbecile to explain to him that the reason he’s so popular on these talk shows is because he gives nothing but aid and confort to the leftwing enemy.

CaptFlood on October 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM

“your shoe” not “you’re shoe,” sorry, I didn’t fully edit before posting:

A runner’s winning a race.

He crosses the finish line, gasping but winning.

McCain jumps on the track and screams, “but you’re shoe is untied, that’s a fail right there!”

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Reductio ad absurdum (Latin: “reduction to absurdity”), also known as argumentum ad absurdum (Latin: argument to absurdity).

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM

It fails at even that because there is no increased negative consequence to our side even if we did the AP absurd. He assumes we would accept the absurdity of it without thinking about it, but it just isn’t there. There is no reason for Republicans to budge until Reid and Obama are serious about real concessions.

NotCoach on October 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Piss off McCain for tacitly supporting Obamacare to the detriment of millions of Americans.

Wendya on October 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Someone wipe his chin and push him down the stairs.

Akzed on October 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Please, I’m begging anyone within earshot of this imbecile to explain to him that the reason he’s so popular on these talk shows is because he gives nothing but aid and confort to the leftwing enemy.

CaptFlood on October 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Exactly right. He’s the Left’s dearest media tool.

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM

This man has made me lose all respect for him. I am very sorry to say that, but at this point all he is – is an embarrassment to himself and this country.

Lewfarge on October 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Because this is not about winning. It is about fund raising, and self-aggrandizement.

Mr. Arkadin on October 11, 2013 at 3:34 PM

I always love when this tired old trope is trotted out. “Every single conservative politician is just a fake out to steal your money. You should start supporting humble, modest, hardworking, poor Servants of the People like John McCain!”

Doomberg on October 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Please, I’m begging anyone within earshot of this imbecile to explain to him that the reason he’s so popular on these talk shows is because he gives nothing but aid and confort to the leftwing enemy. CaptFlood on October 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM

He doesn’t need this explained to him, he’s making artful use of this setup!

Akzed on October 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM

The people behind the “defund ObamaCare” strategy must be held “accountable”

How about people behind the
” run guns for international drug cartels”
and
” arm alqaeda and muzie brothers to kill Americans” ?
How about holding them accountable for their treason you effing senile fool ? Or your daughter doesn’t approve of that ?

burrata on October 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM


If this is a simple matter of the GOP holding together and getting what they want, why not hold out for Obama’s resignation?

Allahpundit on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

I guess you’ve missed the Let It Burn setiments in these threads. And I say that as a DOD employee out ten and half days pay already and currently working on an IOU.

Hold out for the man’s resignation? Sounds like a good idea.

M240H on October 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Wow, you sorry old Ba$tard.

Retire already.

BigWyo on October 11, 2013 at 3:49 PM

And I wouldn’t sell John McCain a cup of warm pi** if he was on fire.

M240H on October 11, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Yeah. They “must be held accountable” for not trying to sink the country further into debt.

Anybody know how much Rosetta Stone English to Greek is? I’m thinking about moving there. Their economy is looking more stable than ours.

NoPain on October 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM

And I hope his fat daughter gives birth to Kanye’s baby.

M240H on October 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM

“They shut down the government with a fool’s errand that would not succeed, and that’s a fact.”

Who better to identify a fool’s errand?

oldleprechaun on October 11, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Who should be held accountable is the candidate who meekly backed down and allowed an unqualified America-hating thug to win the presidency in 2008.

86 on October 11, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Cruz stopped his war in Syria.

the_nile on October 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Exactly.

Resist We Much on October 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM

So McCain now want’s to orchestrate a witch hunt to purify the GOP.

This man is toxic. Political poison.

If he refuses to retire, the least he could do is switch parties and openly declare that he’s a Democrat.

thatsafactjack on October 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Please, I’m begging anyone within earshot of this imbecile to explain to him that the reason he’s so popular on these talk shows is because he gives nothing but aid and confort to the leftwing enemy.

CaptFlood on October 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Are you kidding? He’s speaking for the Republican leadership here. He’s able to safely say what they all think since he’s likely to retire soon.

Doomberg on October 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM

If this is a simple matter of the GOP holding together and getting what they want, why not hold out for Obama’s resignation?

Allahpundit on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Because that power rests in the Senate. The House can impeach him, but the Senate has to give the punishment.
The power of the purse, on the other hand, rests in the House. We are talking about spending, right? If the House does not authorize spending, it does not happen.

astonerii on October 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Just wait,if we do not mess up gaining the Senate (and that is a big if), he will do a Arlen Spector and officially switch to the Dems. John McCain will look out for John McCain.

mwbri on October 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM

I doubt McCain will ever admit he’s been ‘wrong’ in that sense. He’ll never acknowledge he’s a turncoat or, literally, untrustworthy as to his loyalties. He’ll never face that, or, rather, admit it.

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Listening to him is pure torture.

docflash on October 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM

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