McCain: The people behind the “defund ObamaCare” strategy must be held “accountable”

posted at 3:21 pm on October 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

The key bit comes at the very end, in response to a question about who’s responsible for the temporary suspension of death benefits to families of fallen troops. McCain’s answer: Everyone in Congress — but, implicitly, especially the “defund” caucus. You can tell how eager Maverick was to make that point by how quickly he turns a segment about the administration giving short shrift to the military — normally an easy lay-up for a Republican against a Democratic president — into a lament about Cruz et al. I’m not sure a guy who’s positioned himself as the lead Republican opponent of the “wacko birds” should be ruminating on holding people accountable, but if he’s leaning towards not running again in 2016, he’s got nothing to lose. No doubt he’s enjoying sticking it to tea partiers immensely.

If nothing else, this clip illustrates the slightly (but only slightly) exaggerated truth that “there are now two Republican parties.” Case in point:

Tea Party Republicans approve of the job congressional Republicans are doing by a 72%-25% margin. However, a plurality of NON-Tea Party Republicans disapprove by a 49%-42% In addition, 69% of Tea Party Republicans believe the GOP is demonstrating strong leadership and standing up for what they believe in, versus 29% of them who say they’re putting their political agenda ahead of what’s good for the country. But those numbers are reversed among NON-Tea Party Republicans — 53% say they’re putting politics first, while 41% think Republicans are standing up for what they believe in. And then there’s this: Among Tea Party Republicans, Ted Cruz has a 52%-4% fav/unfav rating. But among non-Tea Party it’s 13%-23%.

Either that rift is healed in the next two years or the primary campaign in 2015 is going to be … really something. One question for the “defund” supporters, though: If this really was about trying to build consensus in Congress to stop O-Care, why is Mark Begich claiming that none of the defunders ever met with him to pitch him on joining them in voting no? He’s a red-state Democrat who’s up for reelection next year; it’s unlikely that he’d break ranks with his caucus, but if any Dem is going to, it’s one who’s in Begich’s position. Instead, he claims, “The only time Ted Cruz said something to me was when I was literally coming to the floor, you know the two tables down by the desk there where you cast your vote. He said, ‘You should vote for this.’ That was it.” Could be that Begich is lying, of course, but if he’s going to lie, there are more self-serving lies he could tell than that one. E.g., “I have grave concerns about ObamaCare, and Senators Cruz and Lee begged to meet with me about them. But once they threatened to shut down the government, I told them ‘Hell, no!'” A lie along those lines would please Alaska GOPers by signaling his alleged “concerns” about O-Care and Alaska Democrats by punching Cruz and Lee. And showing that he was opposed to the shutdown would please both. Instead, he’s making the lesser claim that no one on the defund side ever tried to meet with him. That makes me think it’s true, and if it’s true, why is it true? What did defunders have to lose by feeling him out to see what he’d need to conceivably vote with Republicans against Reid’s amendment stripping the “defund” provisions out of the House bill? Remember, Reid could have lost as many as three Democrats on that and still passed it by simple majority, so he might have let Begich cross the aisle in order to protect himself with reddish Alaska voters. Why not try?

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You are the stupid one. Ted Cruz is smart and he’s caught a lot of suckers in that filibuster net he set.

Basilsbest on October 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM

You never answered the question…how do you prevent him from changing the law as he sees fit to save face? He has already don’t it regardless of what the constitution says so let us hear your brilliance?

ClassicCon on October 12, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Breitbart 10-12-13
Obama: End Shutdown So We Can Pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform

Obama rejected a House Republican proposal that would have re-opened the government and raised the debt-ceiling for six-weeks in return for an agreement on a “framework” on negotiations on more long-term budgetary issues. He said “this Republican shutdown” had to end “because there is so much else we should be focusing our energies on right now” and cited immigration as one of the things the government had to “fix.”

I warned this would happen. The RINOs stopped talking ‘Obamacare’ a while back, and bait and switched to Ryan the Wizard who can save the nation by cutting Medicare and Social Security

They went to one meeting. The one you know about

Watch how Obama ‘twists’ the arms of the RINOs and gets them to give in on Amnesty in return for entitlement cuts

There is a reason McCain is so cocky. He is vindictive, simple, and owes people. It isn’t Cruz making him dance, it is the A word

The Senate has already passed an immigration reform bill, championed by Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and Marco Rubio (R-FL), and Republicans have indicated that they would put immigration reform on the agenda as soon as issues dealing with the shutdown and the debt ceiling are resolved.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said even piecemeal bills that passed the House would go to conference with the Senate, where many believe the pathway to citizenship provision would be inserted into a final bill. That is why Pelosi said Democrats were willing to do “whatever it takes” to get to conference.

entagor on October 12, 2013 at 4:53 PM

If Cruz & Lee hadn’t started talking about it, not ONE DAAMN THING would have ever happened. They would have approved the clean CR & Debt ceiling, just like every other time.

Those liars ran and won in 2010 on DEFUNDING O-CARE and haven’t lifted a finger, except for theater votes to defund it. They are playing us for fools.

stenwin77 on October 11, 2013 at 9:01 PM

You are 100 percent on target

entagor on October 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM

I agree with McCain, they should be held responsible. I am considering sending out re-election checks to all who participated.

Dollayo on October 12, 2013 at 5:08 PM

John McCain has become an embarrassment to the GOP. He is the quintessential RINO. He and Graham can’t retire soon enough for me.

cajunpatriot on October 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Meanwhile, Obama and his merry men continue with their evil plans for America, and McCain and King continue to bash Ted Cruz and all conservatives. Thank you Sen. Cruz for flushing out these sorry ass good for nothing’s like McCain and King. If there was any doubt about their true motives, they have been exposed for what they are and what they stand for.

mobydutch on October 12, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Time for McCain, King, Graham, and many, many others to call it quits. Leg riding RINOs.

rockerpeople on October 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Yawn. McCain has become a parody of his RINO self. A sad pathetic joke that just bores me at this point.

What actually disgusts me is his enablers in the GOP. Among them, the people who pushed for his candidacy in 2008 and who later did the same to propel the equally pathetic Romney. These same disgusting lowlifes are now pushing the insufferable liberal Chris Christie.

Norwegian on October 13, 2013 at 1:11 AM

McCain needs this crisis resolved so he can get back to pushing mass immigration and amnesty.

David Blue on October 13, 2013 at 2:28 AM

McCain is responding to the Kalifornication of Arizona. He is not planning to retire, he is planning on running for another term in the Senate. That explains his leftwards lurch.

kjatexas on October 13, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Hey old man, you want to talk about accountability, how about Fast & Furious, Benghazi, NAS spying on Americans, & how about the IRS. Senator you have become an embarrassment. Senator please retire you have become useless & senile.

tspacer50 on October 13, 2013 at 9:59 AM


Bmore on October 13, 2013 at 10:09 AM

I cant understand why RINO McCain keeps taking a dump on fellow GOP
does he crave the libearal media that much.
hey McCain you liberal media buddies threw you under the bus in 2008, do you remember that ya senile old fart

and besides it is the dems and Obama who are shutting things down for SPITE.

sniffles1999 on October 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Hey Meggie Mac’s dad, no one in the conservative wing of the party gives a flying f%ck what you have to say. Why don’t you go home to Arizona and retire with Sandy O!!
We’re NOT playing with the RINO wing of the republican party anymore, so go to your “friends” in the liberal media and spew your distain for the tea party wing; WE DONT CARE.

mmcnamer1 on October 13, 2013 at 1:43 PM

This guy is such a fraud. Yes, he was in a POW camp, but the enemy knew who his daddy was. He isn’t as big of a ‘war hero’ as made out to be, and a Republican he is a disgrace.

easyt65 on October 13, 2013 at 2:30 PM

People have to understand that Senators aren’t really talking to a national audience. They are generally talking only to the audience of the city limits of the major metro areas of their state because that is who elects them. McCain is really only talking to the people in the cities of Phoenix, Tucson, Mesa, Chandler, Glendale, Scottsdale, Gilbert, and Tempe and if you don’t live in the city limits of those towns, McCain doesn’t give a rat’s pair of hips what you think because those towns are what puts him and keeps him in office. So if you live in rural parts of Maricopa County, he doesn’t really care what you think.

Those 8 towns have over half the population of the state. People also have to realize that in voting, Arizona is not all that “red”. Besides McCain, their other Senator is a Democrat and that is the same state that elected Janet Napolitano as Governor. To get elected to statewide office in Arizona, you can’t be all that far to the right or you won’t win.

crosspatch on October 13, 2013 at 5:30 PM

McCain needs to retire or change parties. The man is damaging to us all.

DC555 on October 13, 2013 at 6:01 PM

McCain: The people behind the “defund ObamaCare” strategy must be held “accountable”

I agree with McCain.

Let’s hold the Tea Partiers accountable. We need to nominate one for President and make sure he or she wins.

Chris of Rights on October 14, 2013 at 9:42 AM

The errand is getting it through your thick heads that the public does not like this legislation, that the government is too big, and too politicized throughout is departments to ever be trusted. Is that message getting through? Is that message getting through to this fool?

bour3 on October 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

John McCain needs to retire.

potvin on October 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM

John, you Elitist, egotistical, Washington Insider, GOP Establishment, self-important RHINO [email protected]…if anyone who bravely adhered to their oath of office – to protect and defend the Constitution – stood up to Obama, his terrorist/blackmailing, all-or-nothing demand that you abandon the Constitution so he could have his 2,200 Un-Constitutional Waivers is to be punished, WE, the American people, will do so through our votes.

Cruz and the rest of those brave Americans, who sacrificed everything to ‘die on their feet rather than live on their knees’ like you have chosen to do, work for US – NOT YOU!

Cruz does not answer to you. That BS ‘GOP Heirarchy’ is something YOU and the other Elitist career politicians created – a kingdom of power for yourselves. By doing so you forgot who YOU work for, who YOU represent, and to whom YOU answer to. You can rest assured YOU will be held accountable for YOUR actions as well!

easyt65 on October 15, 2013 at 3:54 PM