Admin looking at taking down, rebuilding parts of HealthCare.gov this weekend

posted at 4:01 pm on October 11, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

ObamaCare’s online portal didn’t fare too much better in its second week than its disaster of an inaugural week, with ongoing glitches and incoming revelations about just how hastily and sloppily designed the endeavor really was. Last weekend, the Obama administration took HealthCare.Gov during off-peak hours to see if they couldn’t iron some things out, but it evidently wasn’t nearly enough to fix the site’s underlying problems; ergo, it sounds like they’re thinking about doing the same this weekend to make time for some real reconstruction, via the WSJ:

Government officials are considering rebuilding some parts of the federally run health-insurance marketplace that have been identified as the key flaws that blocked many consumers from getting coverage.

Much of the problem stems from a design element that requires users of the federal site, which serves 36 states, to create accounts before shopping for insurance, according to policy and technology experts. The site, healthcare.gov, was initially going to include an option to browse before registering, but that tool was delayed, people familiar with the situation said. …

If any part of the web of systems fails to work properly, it could lead to a traffic jam blocking most users from the marketplace. That’s just what happened: On Oct. 2, officials identified a bottleneck where those systems intersect at a software component sold by Oracle Corp. that still hasn’t been cleared. …

The problems haven’t yet been resolved, but people familiar with the situation said officials are debating whether to replace parts of the registration system this weekend. By Thursday morning, a new tool that allows users to preview plans without registering appeared on the site with little fanfare.

These glitches, however, are increasingly looking like they’re going to need more than some mere weekend reconstruction to fix, and the administration only has so much time get the system running smoothly before their credibility really starts going out the window, via Reuters:

The U.S. administration has a little over a month to fix the technology problems crippling its online health insurance marketplace, or jeopardize the goal of signing up millions of Americans in time for benefits under President Barack Obama’s healthcare law, experts said on Thursday. …

“Mid-November would be a time where folks who are getting online or accessing in other ways should really see things move pretty efficiently,” Dan Hilferty, chief executive of Philadelphia-based Independence Blue Cross, said in an interview. “As we get closer to January 1, if in fact some of these glitches are not fixed, then I think people will become more and more concerned, and maybe panic about it.” …

Patience has also begun to run thin among Democrats who worry that the administration is not acting decisively enough.

“They don’t seem to be addressing these problems quickly enough. They’ve had three years to get their ducks in a row. It gets to the point where it becomes inexcusable. And we’re not at that point yet. But we’re getting close to it,” said a senior Democratic aide in Congress.

So, at the front end of this supposed six-month enrollment period before penalties kick in, we don’t even know how long it’s going to take before the administration accomplishes the fast-and-easy signup users were promised, and on the tail end, enrollees don’t actually have until March 31st but more likely until Valentine’s Day to get their applications processed in time. I’d think that pulling yet another unilateral delay in one of the law’s deadlines, especially with the GOP asking for the same, would be a political nightmare for them — but with these guys, you never know.


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Aptly bears Obama’s nom. The very same Obama who is bff with terrorist bomber William Ayers, and launched his campaign from a palistinian terrorist’s living room.

Murphy9 on October 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM

It was down last week-end for repairs, too.

Resist We Much on October 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Any wonder that Jesse Jackson is telling people to quit referring to it as Obamacare?

Resist We Much on October 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM

This woman should be fired. What a failure.

Key West Reader on October 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM

I’m still trying to figure out if it means something that healthcare.gov’s peak hours are during the times most of us are working.

taznar on October 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Kill. It. Now.

22044 on October 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Amputate its feet and take out its tonsils..

Electrongod on October 11, 2013 at 4:11 PM

If they couldn’t get it right in 3.5 years, I doubt that 3.5 days will change things much. 50/50 that it gets even worse…

affenhauer on October 11, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Epic fail: The site design is rotten to the core.

E-Ro

electric-rascal on October 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM

They couldn’t get it right in 3 years, but, hey, they’ll probably have it fixed in 3 days.

steebo77 on October 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM

So here I am sitting on my tax check that is due on October 15th. Wondering if I should it to a government that considers me an enemy or just tell them I had a glitch.

DanMan on October 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM

I would accept funding the government, including Obamacare, on the condition that the administration be required to post daily reports of the number of people who have completed registration and paid for health insurance via Healthcare.gov.

J.S.K. on October 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Cigna has instructed brokers to halt selling insurance to individuals who are subsidy-eligible through its federal health care exchange broker portals.

Under the Affordable Care Act, eligible consumers can buy insurance through the exchanges or can go to a broker who can purchase insurance on their behalf.

Incorrect information from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services led to the decision by Cigna, spokesman Joe Mondy told Employee Benefit Adviser. As a result, the carrier sent out a notice (see below) to brokers in the states where its product is offered on federal exchanges — Arizona, Florida, Tennessee and Texas — that instructed brokers to halt sales. Cigna’s product in Colorado, which is a state-run exchange, is not affected.

“As we iron that out, we are asking [brokers] to take a pause and not submit individuals until this issue is cleared up in November,” says Mondy.

The glitch stems from a tool, created by Cigna, that allows brokers to assist individuals who are subsidy-eligible to buy insurance. When Cigna first launched the tool, Mondy says the carrier warned brokers that its use was contingent on any technological problems that might arise. While he is unsure how many insurers have provided similar tools, Mondy believes all those that made a tool are experiencing similar issues with CMS.

Mondy says Cigna is working closely with the government to resolve the issue. CMS did not immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday afternoon.

Akzed on October 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Then there’s this:

Suit in Oklahoma could knock out ObamaCare

Why didn’t anyone else think of it?

Scott Pruitt, the attorney general of Oklahoma, acting on the research of Jonathan H. Adler and Michael F. Cannon published in the Case Western Reserve Journal of International Law, has brought a new lawsuit, on behalf of the state, against ObamaCare.

Unlike the suit brought by 26 state attorneys general, this lawsuit does not make a constitutional objection to the Affordable Care Act. Instead, it uses the language of the law to challenge the elaborate system of subsidies, tax credits and individual or employer mandates and fines the act has spawned.

Adler and Cannon studied the actual text of the law — something Congress never did — and found that it explicitly provided a subsidy only to those who receive their insurance through state exchanges. Indeed, the subsidies and tax credits were intended to be the carrot that induced states to set up exchanges rather than force the feds to set up their own.

The Internal Revenue Service has ruled that the language of the statute should be “interpreted” to extend the subsidies to those enrolled in state or federal exchanges, but that’s not what the law says. Section 1401 of the act, according to their article, “authorizes premium-assistance tax credits and makes them available only through state-run Exchanges.”

The section says that taxpayers may receive a tax credit only if “the taxpayer is covered by a qualified health plan … that was enrolled in through an Exchange established by the State under section 1311 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.”

Adler and Cannon argue that “by its express terms, this provision only applies to exchanges ‘established by a state’ and ‘established … under Section 1311.’ Section 1401 further emphasizes that tax credits are available only through Section 1311 exchanges.”

The IRS and defenders of the legislation try to stretch the language to imply a mandate to cover those in federal exchanges. Former IRS Director Douglas Shulman, answering a letter from Republican congressmen about whether the subsidies are limited to state exchanges, wrote:

“The statute includes language that indicates that individuals are eligible for tax credits whether they are enrolled through a State-based Exchange or a Federally-facilitated Exchange.”

Unfortunately for President Obama, the statute implies no such thing. It is not only silent on any subsidies for federal exchanges, it is clear that the subsidies were intended to encourage states to set up exchanges.

The Oklahoma suit has survived a motion to dismiss and its standing to bring the suit has been affirmed by the District Court. Pruitt hopes for a judgment later this year and feels the case might reach the Supreme Court by late next year.

Godspeed!

Akzed on October 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Too bad the GOP couldn’t wait to fight over the debt ceiling instead of the CR — this massive failure would have been front and center for days… instead it’s been buried and we’re giving the Administration a chance to fix their slop.

That said, the negative impact of this law — well beyond software — will still be here next week, next month, next year. I get that side of the argument.

NO DELAY to Obamacare but make it extend to ALL.

matthew8787 on October 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM

They had four years to get it right and failed miserably. Does anyone really think they’ll get it fixed in two days?

totherightofthem on October 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Sorry, I farmed the link above… Here it is: http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/10/10/the-obamacare-website-the-biggest-tech-gaggle-ever/

(Using a smartphone was’t very smart.)

E-R

electric-rascal on October 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM

ROFL

The new fixes will allow your data to be stolen by only 20 people instead of the 40 who can steal it now.

Lean FORWARD you mofackys!

Bishop on October 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I work on a website that uses Oracle software. I formerly worked at one of the Blue Cross plans on their website. Undoubtedly, there are web software bugs that need to be ironed out. However, there appear to be substantial and foundational design flaws that are not simply ‘debugged’, they need to be redesigned. It really doesn’t matter how clean or elegant the code is, if the design sucks, the design sucks. And this design SUCKS!!

EA_MAN on October 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I think Cigna knows what Morris is talking about.

Akzed on October 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM

farmed=farked

I give up.

E-R

electric-rascal on October 11, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Ah the Request For Change process in a contract!

Oh, that can ultimately cost more than the contract itself if the government asks for substantial modifications of something that it had asked for before. And as this means that government did not ask for what it really wanted, but something else that got delivered, the cost goes ever higher. Each change will get you new bugs, new problems and THOSE will then need RFCs, as well.

Ahhh… the endless RFC process.

You know that $600 million or so that it has cost to get the software to this point? Double or triple it for the RFCs. Because HHS has no idea of what it is doing and is about to pull the starting gun on yet another part of the Death March of poor software development.

Abandon Project All Ye Who Have Entered Here!

Let the newbies take the fall for you lackluster work.

ajacksonian on October 11, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Not original a quote from Mark Steyn:

It would have taken less time (3 years, 7 months) to defeat Japan in World War II than to implement ObamaCare (3 years, 9 months).

Wander on October 11, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Down this weekend, like last weekend, and like every weekend to follow, before they just trash the whole billion dollar boondoggle, and pass it off to Barry & Bayam’s beloved “Silicon Valley geniuses’ to build from scratch…. Probably charging the poor taxpayers a couple more billion dollars.

LegendHasIt on October 11, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Give it the blue pill. Then the red pill.

patman77 on October 11, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Good luck with that, Feds.

Take it from another IT professional… you guys have no f&cking clue what it is you’re doing.

Turtle317 on October 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Why in hell hire a CA company that CA actually previously fired ???

Maybe someone can find that link I’m thinking of, faster, but I’ll try…..

pambi on October 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Haha! Eat it Sebelius! All the shame and embarrassment will be heaped upon your sleek little grey head! I laugh at your humiliation! Your salty tears taste so delicious to me!!!

Hahahahahahahah!

By the way, you’re a traitor to your faith, and due to your impended excommunication, Mass will not be said in the State of Kansas fora hundred years!!!!

Hahaha! Salty tears!!

Herald of Woe on October 11, 2013 at 4:23 PM

The law is worse than the programming…

d1carter on October 11, 2013 at 4:23 PM

They’re going to fix the codes it took hundreds of Indians over three years to write?

LOL. Good luck with that.

I wonder how many more hundreds of millions, or billions, of our dollars they’re willing to dump down this hole before they give up and admit it’s a failure.

AZCoyote on October 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Akzed on October 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM

The federal government should have an injunction imposed against subsidies via federal exchanges until this us resolved.

And I’m sure the Left views the federal government as the State.

Charlemagne on October 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

If a house has a bad foundation all the paint and wallpaper in the world won’t fix it. In the case of Obamacare the house has a bad foundation due to being built on quicksand (constantly changing standards, exemptions etc) all it can do is sink.

neyney on October 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

The law is worse than the programming…

d1carter on October 11, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Please bear this in mind whenever IT professionals are asked to do “programming.”

1) The programming represent a series of logical statements leading to a logical end result.

2) ObamaCare is a 1000+ page law.

…anyone see the problem?

Beuller? Beuller??

Turtle317 on October 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

uh, yeah, because IT projects can just change willy-nilly like that

gatorboy on October 11, 2013 at 4:28 PM

If this scheme were a horse they would have pulled a curtain around it and put a bullet in its head.

Here’s the next step: Appropriate another billion bucks to “fix” it and in the end it will still suck. Then blame Bush and Cruz while Dog Eater claims he never really wanted nationalized healthcare anyway, it was all a GOP trick.

Bishop on October 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM

If HealthCare.gov was a horse they would have shot it by now. If HealthCare.gov was a dog Son Of Obama Michael Vick would have tortured it to death by now.

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

“You lost another sub?”

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Is this “rebuild” covered under the $634 million taxpayers already spent on that monstrosity or will there be an extra charge for the fix?

Stu Gotts on October 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

I wonder how many more hundreds of millions, or billions, of our dollars they’re willing to dump down this hole before they give up and admit it’s a failure.

AZCoyote on October 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM

You could sell the world to the biggest buyer just to pay for 1 day’s worth of leftist utopia, and they would still not admit failure.

nobar on October 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Why didn’t anyone else think of it?

Akzed on October 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM

A lot of people thought of it. It has been a topic of much discussion on a lot of blogs, especially tax law blogs, since Obamacare was passed.

I too wish them luck with the lawsuit, but it’s not a new idea that everybody else missed.

AZCoyote on October 11, 2013 at 4:33 PM

The law is worse than the programming…

d1carter on October 11, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Please bear this in mind whenever IT professionals are asked to do “programming.”

1) The programming represent a series of logical statements leading to a logical end result.

2) ObamaCare is a 1000+ page law.

…anyone see the problem?

Beuller? Beuller??

Turtle317 on October 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/03/12/photo-20000-pages-of-obamacare-regulations-n1532069

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Sebellius was in pittsburgh to push this crap sandwich, couldn’t get through, blamed it on heinz field

congma on October 11, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Aptly bears Obama’s nom. The very same Obama who is bff with terrorist bomber William Ayers, and launched his campaign from a palistinian terrorist’s living room.

Murphy9 on October 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Copied from another comment…

We are bringing Western civilization to its knees by selling private insurance plans on a web site where people pick and choose.”

- Kathleen Sebelius, Health and Human Services Secretary

What does that remind me of?

But my journey is part of a larger journey- one shared by all who’ve ever sought to apply the values of their faith to our society. It’s a journey that takes us back to our nation’s founding, when none other than a UCC church inspired the Boston Tea Party and helped bring an Empire to its knees.

- Barack Hussein Obama June 23, 2007

Yes, it appears that Barack Obama and Kathleen Sebelius are “fellow travellers” on the journey to bring the “Empire” of Western civilization “to its knees”.

Who else wants to bring the U.S. “Empire” to its knees?

Bill Ayers on his blog September 10, 2008:

“The end of an empire is messy at best….

and this one is ending like all the rest.” Randy Newman

Ayers posted that the day before the 7th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks, and less than 2 months before the election of Barack Hussein Obama to the Presidency… the same Barack Hussein Obama who started his political career in Bill Ayers’ living room, and who said that he shares his life’s journey with all who have ever sought to… bring an empire to its knees.

ITguy on October 11, 2013 at 4:34 PM

I wonder how many more hundreds of millions, or billions, of our dollars they’re willing to dump down this hole before they give up and admit it’s a failure.

AZCoyote on October 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM

This is chip on the shoulder daddy issues Dog Eater we’re talking about, the man would burn the entire nation down to the frame before admitting failure on this. There is no amount of money he won’t make sure is blown to give even the semblance of success.

Bishop on October 11, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Haha, Sebelius, you little grey fox! Remember this is just the first step of the incredibly complicated implementation of Retardo-Care!! Remember this chart showing how Obamacare would create 30 new federal agencies?!!!

Your trial of shame has just begun, Sebelius!! Ha-hah! I look forward to tasting your salty tears of shame and sorrow!! Hahahahahah!!!! For years and years!!!!!!!!!!!!

Herald of Woe on October 11, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Is this “rebuild” covered under the $634 million taxpayers already spent on that monstrosity or will there be an extra charge for the fix?

Stu Gotts on October 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

I know this may come as a shock, but based on some of the crazy information I’ve seen SO FAR about the Feds handling (or lack thereof) the server cluster farm they’ve built for BambiCare, they would need to upscale the clusters ten-fold in order to make ME feel comfortable handling the load.

This does not include network bandwidth issues, the time and labor needed to upscale the databases. Furthermore, I’m fairly confident that if they goofed on the hardware scaling, they’ve screwed the pooch on how much their database can handle – so expect to hear problems with that issue in the coming weeks.

Trust me… one weekend is not going to address all those pesky problems that are going to crop up.

Turtle317 on October 11, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Thanks for the news tip Erika. Please get back to us when Cruella says that they need to take the whole friggin mess down and rethink Obutthead Care.

NOMOBO on October 11, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Sebelius: “Why does this woman still have a job?”

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Much of the problem stems from a design element that requires users of the federal site, which serves 36 states, to create accounts before shopping for insurance, according to policy and technology experts.

As we say in the industry: This isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. This requirement would have to have been added explicitly by the customer (i.e. HHS). It would have been less work to leave it out, so it was obviously needed for some purpose. There’s also no way to delete an account once you create one.

And then there are anecdotes from people who have created an account, decided they didn’t want to buy what was offered, and then got a phone call from a “helpful” government employee (obviously using the info provided in their Obamacare account) explaining how the law required them to buy the insurance they didn’t want, and how they would be fined (uh, I mean “taxed”) for not doing so, and how their wages could be garnished or other unpleasant collection methods used to extract the “tax”.

Add this to the “privacy announcements” (really more of a “lack of privacy”) that explain how your Obamacare information could be used for “law enforcement purposes” and it seems clear that the system was designed as flypaper for unsuspecting citizens to provide enough information so that the government could intimidate them into following through once they find out the horrible truth of what they’re really going to have to pay and what they’ll get for it.

It’s like Hotel California: You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

Socratease on October 11, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Is this “rebuild” covered under the $634 million taxpayers already spent on that monstrosity or will there be an extra charge for the fix?

Stu Gotts on October 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

No. This is clearly addressed by the Obama Doctrine: “Reset”

Money spent on projects that have been reset does not get counted.

BobMbx on October 11, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Imagine going to a car dealer and not being able to see any of the models even after waiting hours. Or finally geting to see a model but the salesman can’t get the door open for you to get inside.

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Yeah, who’s doing the rebuild, and how many more millions of dollars is it going to cost us?

RebeccaH on October 11, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Sorry, I farmed the link above… Here it is: http://siliconangle.com/blog/2013/10/10/the-obamacare-website-the-biggest-tech-gaggle-ever/

(Using a smartphone was’t very smart.)

E-R

electric-rascal on October 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Mr. McAfee himself was on Fox earlier today explaining (briefly, layperson language) about the Obamacare site’s failed construction and why it is failed (and so miserably done as he explained).

Apparently, the Obama Admin farmed out the site construction to some unsophisticated designer people in India

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Hellooo, Congress:

We The People demand an itemized receipt for this “website” debacle.

Start to impossible finish, an itemized receipt.

I bet it’ll be more than a migration to Mars for half our population.

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

If Obama and the designers and coders of healthcare.gov had been in charge instead of Eisenhower and his staff, Hitler would have taken over the whole world.

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Thanks for the correction.

Turtle317 on October 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Imagine going to a car dealer and not being able to see any of the models even after waiting hours. Or finally geting to see a model but the salesman can’t get the door open for you to get inside.

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 4:43 PM

And the dealer has all your private information in his super-duper secure website.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Apparently, the Obama Admin farmed out the site construction to some unsophisticated designer people in India…

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

And then they farmed it out to Cuba which farmed it out to Kenya which farmed it out to Zimbabwe which farmed it out to Charles Manson. Now you know the rest of the story.

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM

And the dealer has all your private information in his super-duper secure website.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:47 PM

As well as you old car, so now you even have to walk home. The dealer also took your pants and didn’t even loan you a barrel.

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 4:51 PM

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Thanks for the correction.

Turtle317 on October 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Not at all. You were right on. How can they expect “If x, then y, else z” programming address such a nightmare.

They pass 2,00 pages and in three years it mushrooms into 20,000 pages?

This is working according to the marxist plan. Tear down the status quo and rebuild the socialist utopia from the ashes. We learned nothing from 50 years of upheaval in Latin America.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM

This could all be good news for barbers as soon now many people will probably go to them for surgery again, like in the old days.

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 4:54 PM

And the dealer has all your private information in his super-duper secure website.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:47 PM

As well as you old car, so now you even have to walk home. The dealer also took your pants and didn’t even loan you a barrel.

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 4:51 PM

And no cash for your clunker. Instead you have to come up with $6,000 to $12,000 down to go with a lifetime of payments.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM

And no cash for your clunker. Instead you have to come up with $6,000 to $12,000 down to go with a lifetime of payments.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM

That wasn’t a clunker. It was a Cadillac [plan].

VorDaj on October 11, 2013 at 4:57 PM

and the administration only has so much time get the system running smoothly before their credibility really starts going out the window,

For anyone with more than two brain cells this criminal administration already has no credibility. They were pushing the idea leading up to this fiasco that it was of utmost importance that huge numbers of people sign up in order to get this cancerous monstrosity rolling. They managed, after 3 1/2 years of wasting almost a billion dollars to have a site that can’t do the most basic of tasks (friggin drop down menus don’t even work) and can’t handle even a modicum of traffic. How could these inept morons have any credibility left? Who the hell would trust them with anything more complicated than a mop (which they’d probably break)?

There are glitches and there is total failure. This effort was pathetic even for government. We’d be better off having Incitatus as our doctor than letting Barky and his gang of America-hating traitors anywhere near anything that’s important or sensitive.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM

And who else wants to bring the U.S. “Empire” to its knees?

The Communist Party USA:

With Marxism-Leninism guiding our actions, the Communist Party strives to build the broadest unity against global capitalist imperialism now headed by U.S. imperialism, for immediate gains and reforms that benefit working people, and for a progressive democratization of the government, the economy, and society of our country on the road to and after winning socialism.

ITguy on October 11, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Any computer system this messed up will never be “fixed”. It will be trashed as soon as the management can figure out who to blame and how to save their tails.

CrazyGene on October 11, 2013 at 5:04 PM

This is working according to the marxist plan. Tear down the status quo and rebuild the socialist utopia from the ashes. We learned nothing from 50 years of upheaval in Latin America.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Ashes present an opportunity for more than just socialists. If there is wit enough to seize it.

CrazyGene on October 11, 2013 at 5:07 PM

And who else wants to bring the U.S. “Empire” to its knees?

The Communist Party USA:

With Marxism-Leninism guiding our actions, [...]

ITguy on October 11, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Don’t forget Van Jones, the lizard lady and the gaggle of Maoists still infesting our Executive branch. We have factions from the USSR and China battling each other in the White House over who gets to bring more pain and suffering to Americans.

Barky is neither. He’s just an ineligible, pea-brained third-worlder who is pursuing his delusional revenge fantasy against the US and the West.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 11, 2013 at 5:08 PM

They pass 2,00 pages and in three years it mushrooms into 20,000 pages?

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM

It’s not unusual for a federal agency to issue thousands of pages of new regulations once congress passes a new law, especially a complex law like Obamacare. It’s a big part of the reason we are in the trouble we’re in today. Congress has intruded into way too many areas where the federal government has no constitutional right to be (healthcare, education, etc.), and congress has ceded way too much of its lawmaking powers to federal executive agencies.

Obamacare, like many recent federal laws, is riddled with the phrase “The Secretary [of HHS] shall determine . . .” The Secretary of HHS has no business making law, and neither does the secretary of any other executive-branch agency, and yet congress routinely passes off its lawmaking responsibilities to them. This is because (1) congress is passing far too many laws, and (2) congressmen want to avoid responsibility for unpopular laws, and passing the buck to federal agencies is an easy way for congress to shift blame when voters get angry. (“HHS made that rule, we didn’t”).

AZCoyote on October 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM

I know this may come as a shock, but based on some of the crazy information I’ve seen SO FAR about the Feds handling (or lack thereof) the server cluster farm they’ve built for BambiCare,

Turtle317 on October 11, 2013 at 4:37 PM

I think you used the wrong F-word…

affenhauer on October 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM

And who else wants to bring the U.S. “Empire” to its knees?

The Communist Party USA:

With Marxism-Leninism guiding our actions, [...]

ITguy on October 11, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Don’t forget Van Jones, the lizard lady and the gaggle of Maoists still infesting our Executive branch. We have factions from the USSR and China battling each other in the White House over who gets to bring more pain and suffering to Americans.

Barky is neither. He’s just an ineligible, pea-brained third-worlder who is pursuing his delusional revenge fantasy against the US and the West.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 11, 2013 at 5:08 PM

And islam: http://patdollard.com/2012/09/obama-vetting-1979-newspaper-article-by-valerie-jarrett-father-in-law-reveals-start-of-arab-purchase-of-u-s-presidency/

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Yep. They’ve got ‘em all in there … every enemy of America and the West … ever. It’s kind of amazing.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM

This is working according to the marxist plan. Tear down the status quo and rebuild the socialist utopia from the ashes. We learned nothing from 50 years of upheaval in Latin America.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Ashes present an opportunity for more than just socialists. If there is wit enough to seize it.

CrazyGene on October 11, 2013 at 5:07 PM

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-is-three-percenter.html

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=3%20percenters

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Over the Weeknd? Yeah right. Having written systems no where near as complex as this to fix it in a weekend someone is smoking some really good stuff.

clippermiami on October 11, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Again?
How many times will they need a Re-Do?

Another Drew on October 11, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Over the Weeknd? Yeah right. Having written systems no where near as complex as this to fix it in a weekend someone is smoking some really good stuff.

clippermiami on October 11, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Before thay can fix the “bug” they have to find it.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 5:28 PM

make it good and make it voluntary…if oboobie care is so great people will sign up and stay signed up. if you had a working website and interstate insurance trade you could shop all over the place for whatever.

gracie on October 11, 2013 at 6:14 PM

This is working according to the marxist plan. Tear down the status quo and rebuild the socialist utopia from the ashes. We learned nothing from 50 years of upheaval in Latin America.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM

No, WE learned from it. The problem is many here from Latin America have not and likely won’t if public education continues like it has.

Returning here to the issue of illegal immigration though I know it irritates some because it’s tedious and wrought with emotional tangents:

The cornerstone of LEGAL immigration is self-sufficiency and qualifying for US citizenship based upon ethics, application of intelligence, mental competency, loyalty to the Constitution, good health (meaning, no intention to place the US population at risk by spreading infectious agents).

By allowing illegal immigration and now as the Left is, by rewarding it, we are destroying the U.S. as a nation founded on principles. And we’re continuing to import destructive attitudes, beliefs, behaviors accordingly.

This isn’t “ethnic” based but principle based, to require qualifications for citizenship. Yet today, it’s being insisted that citizenship is “owed” by ethnicity if not by sheer demand. This is ruining by drip-by-drip process the credibility of the USA.

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 6:19 PM

It gets to the point where it becomes inexcusable. And we’re not at that point yet. But we’re getting close to it,” said a senior Democratic aide in Congress.

Yeah, you’ll start putting your foot down, come January 2017!

GarandFan on October 11, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Over the Weeknd? Yeah right. Having written systems no where near as complex as this to fix it in a weekend someone is smoking some really good stuff.

clippermiami on October 11, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Before thay can fix the “bug” they have to find it.

davidk on October 11, 2013 at 5:28 PM

With all the talent, or supposed talent, present in Silicon Valley alone, whytheheck didn’t Obama hand the project over to “them”?

It sounds like the best solution to this boondoggle Obamacare website is to toss it and have someone competent write/construct a new one. One that’s functional.

Or maybe Obama doesn’t want it to be functional.

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 6:22 PM

It gets to the point where it becomes inexcusable. And we’re not at that point yet. But we’re getting close to it,” said a senior Democratic aide in Congress.

Yeah, President Stompy Foot.

Focused like a laser.

Will not rest until…

Lourdes on October 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

That’s just what happened: On Oct. 2, officials identified a bottleneck where those systems intersect at a software component sold by Oracle Corp. that still hasn’t been cleared. …

Blame it on the private sector, as always. Oh, by the way, Mr. Easy Preezy, did you build that?

So, at the front end of this supposed six-month enrollment period before penalties kick in, we don’t even know how long it’s going to take before the administration accomplishes the fast-and-easy signup users were promised, and on the tail end, enrollees don’t actually have until March 31st but more likely until Valentine’s Day to get their applications processed in time.

Obama’s version of the Saint Valentine’s Day Massacre. Sandra Fluke gets free condoms, but Grandma gets pushed over the cliff.
Let her eat dog food and take a blue pill out of her misery!

Steve Z on October 11, 2013 at 6:44 PM

I see from the photo that Obama’s right behind Sebelius on this.

flataffect on October 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

I worked in and teach a college class in computer concepts. ANYONE so foolish as to think they can fix “glitches” in a software program for 320,000,000 people has NO CLUE as to what it takes to make software work.

Frankly, anyone who thought they could write a computer program for 320,000,000 people in an industry that has hundreds if not thousands of codes for treatment, drugs, locations, etc. was also very foolish. Just nuts.

MN J on October 12, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Sentinel 2.0…

affenhauer on October 12, 2013 at 1:16 PM

If they can admit that they have to take down and rebuild a site that needs it, why can’t they admit they have to take down and rebuild the WHOLE DISASTROUS BILL??!

All they are doing is putting a band-aid on a gaping, infected leg wound.

Sterling Holobyte on October 12, 2013 at 4:39 PM