Five Iowans manage to purchase health insurance through ObamaCare exchange in 8 days

posted at 12:41 pm on October 10, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

“These people were the 20th caller,” says the CEO of the firm that managed to sell policies to customers over the first eight days of ObamaCare … five policies, to be specific.  Cliff Gold doesn’t mince words about the experience, either (via The Corner):

At least five unusually persistent Iowans have managed to sign up for health insurance on the government’s balky new online marketplace.

Let’s call them the Hardy Handful. They apparently were willing to wait through interminable delays and to try, try again after repeatedly being booted off the system. By Wednesday morning, they had enrolled in insurance plans sold on the public marketplace by CoOportunity Health.

“They threaded the needle and got in,” said Cliff Gold, the insurance carrier’s chief operating officer. “It’s like when a radio station says, ‘If you’re the 20th caller, you’ll win something.’ These people were the 20th caller.”

On the other hand, Gold also compared the process to starting a cold car, an experience that Iowans know well.  Now that five people have primed the pump, Gold says, the car should start turning over more easily.

Unless someone keeps changing the key, that is.  Earlier, I posted in the Green Room that the ObamaCare call center operators were telling people that they had to call in and reset their passwords after an upgrade deleted them:

If you’re trying to access your Obamacare account on Healthcare.gov, you may be told your password needs to be reset.

“All passwords were deleted for existing accounts as part of the upgrade process,” a call center representative told CNN’s Elizabeth Cohen. The representative said users experiencing issues must call in to reset their password; it cannot be done online.

Just a couple of hours later, HHS explained that their internal communications are almost as big a disaster as their website:

Health and Human Services officials on Thursday said that consumer passwords for the Obamacare website have not been reset, but that call center representatives had been mistakenly given incorrect information that they would have to be reset. “A wrong script was provided to call center representatives,” one official told CNN. “It’s been corrected. The wrong script was read for only a short time — just this morning.” The second official said enrollees can continue to use their current password.

CNN’s Anderson Cooper interviewed a tech expert, who explains why government projects end up so badly. Cooper points out that private-sector companies do better jobs, but the expert says no:

“At least with government, we have more accountability.” Actually, that’s not true at all, and neither is the nonsense about multiple contractors. Private-sector companies have immediate accountability through competition — if their products and services don’t work well, consumers go elsewhere, whereas a government monopoly has almost no accountability at all. (And the extent that consumers have restricted choices in the health-care market comes from an artificial restriction against selling policies across state lines.)

As for multiple contractors being the problem, well, we managed to put a man on the Moon with a vast array of private contractors in about eight years. In three and a half years, we only had six contractors working together and couldn’t deliver a functioning website on time. The difference is competency and function, and the disastrous rollout shows once again that there is much less accountability in government, and that there will always be someone who will excuse it by blaming anyone else but the bureaucrats.


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Keep voting democrat!

Murphy9 on October 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Wow! Great numbers…
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OmahaConservative on October 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Drudge

Obamacare website cost more than FACEBOOKTWITTERLINKEDININSTAGRAM…

‘How can we tax people for not buying product from website that doesn’t work?’

Once you get in, you can’t get out…

Crazzzzzzzy code…

‘It looks like nobody tested it’…

Hawaii forced to relaunch after zero sign-ups…

Only 5 Iowans..

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 12:44 PM

‘People are hungry for [Obamacare].’

- Senator Tom Harkin, (D- IOWA)

Resist We Much on October 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM

They are The Chosen Iowans. Now they will be plucked from their flyover squalor to be celebrated and honored in the Gilded Capital.

Punchenko on October 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM

‘If you build it, they will come.’

Or not.

Resist We Much on October 10, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Oklahoma is suing on how the feds pay states which set up their exchanges and doesn’t pay the states which didn’t…lots to it but it will be interesting to see how the SC will handle.

Someone should sue, all the way to the SC on the dual treatment of citizens, congress/exempted, and the rest, after Jan. 01, 2014, when the travesty of differentiation goes into effect.

That’ll be epic. Roberts can make good or go to Hell, into the slowest roasting layer.

It’s all just a faster path to single payer. Hillary will run on it.

The witch, with lots of blood on her big body, will complete the Utopian dream. If the land falls for it, it’s fully self-made and deserved. Full steam ahead. obama’care’ and amnesty will destroy all, soon.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 12:46 PM

One out of every 2 days ain’t bad.

Bitter Clinger on October 10, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Here’s a distraction from BEFORE the GOPe caved: Obamacare website still not working!

In other news:

White House and Senate tell House GOP leadership they haven’t groveled enough yet.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-10/senate-democrats-warn-debt-ceiling-extension-may-not-pass-unless-republicans-also-ag

Why, oh Why, I wonder is this not worthy of a post on a GOPE-media site?

It would be a shame to lose all your “inside access”, I guess.

PolAgnostic on October 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Keep voting democrat!

Murphy9 on October 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM

It’s all one now. There is just one party the Repubic-rats.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM

‘People are hungry for [Obamacare].’

- Senator Tom Harkin, (D- IOWA)
Resist We Much on October 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Sadly, my parents think this way, too.

Bitter Clinger on October 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM

So let’s call that about a dozen sign ups in almost two weeks, after a weekend down to fix know issues. That makes it 1.2 successful people per day. Assuming we can fix the website(s) to multiply that amount by 100, we would need about 8,324,092 days to get everyone who is alive and eligible right now registered and insured. I will check back in a an about 23 years. Should be another 10-12 million needing to register by then.

Johnnyreb on October 10, 2013 at 12:51 PM

‘People are hungry for [Obamacare].’

– Senator Tom Harkin, (D- IOWA)
Resist We Much on October 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Sadly, my parents think this way, too.

Bitter Clinger on October 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM

You should tell them that they have two choices to take on Error404Care:

1. People aren’t just that hungry for it.

or

2. People are hungry for it, but the government is so incompetent that the Error404Care rollout is just the technological equivalent of Stalin’s Holodomor.

Resist We Much on October 10, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Five Iowans manage to purchase health insurance through ObamaCare exchange in 8 days

Corn stalks must not be too high this year….

ToddPA on October 10, 2013 at 12:53 PM

It’s official; O-care is the Charlie Sheen of government programs.

chimney sweep on October 10, 2013 at 12:54 PM

It’s all one now. There is just one party the Repubic-rats.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuup!!

Scrumpy on October 10, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Were the 5 Iowans subsidy receivers or givers?

Deafdog on October 10, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Drudge

Obamacare website cost more than FACEBOOKTWITTERLINKEDININSTAGRAM…

‘How can we tax people for not buying product from website that doesn’t work?’

Once you get in, you can’t get out…

Crazzzzzzzy code…

‘It looks like nobody tested it’…

Hawaii forced to relaunch after zero sign-ups…

Only 5 Iowans..

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Here is the Crazzzzzzzy code… link.

I write JavaScript and jQuery code every single day at work and this doesn’t even make sense to me. How do you even code like this let alone try to debug it?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Accountability and govt….does not compute

cmsinaz on October 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM

“All passwords were deleted for existing accounts as part of the upgrade process,” a call center representative told CNN’s Elizabeth Cohen. The representative said users experiencing issues must call in to reset their password; it cannot be done online.

Upgrade? The system has been “operational” for less than two weeks. There wasn’t any upgrades just desperate attempts to make the damn thing work the way the administration is pretending it is working.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I tell often how obama won in 2012 like Mugabe did on 2013. He’s about as legitimate too.

Also, note that when the trolls are absent, they all are absent.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 12:59 PM

They apparently were willing to wait through interminable delays and to try, try again after repeatedly being booted off the system.

IOW they were unemployed, but motivated.

taznar on October 10, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Were the 5 Iowans subsidy receivers or givers?

Deafdog on October 10, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Given the effort it took to get through the process, I’m willing to bet that these people are not subsidy givers.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2013 at 1:00 PM

“If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.” So he did: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/non-essential-harry-reid-shuts-down-own-office

davidk on October 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM

MobileVideoEngineer on October 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM

No wonder the Taliban touts us, really.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM

No wonder the Taliban touts taunts us, really.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Un freakin’ believable. Despite the GOP offer this afternoon, the Dems including the lazy stupid rat-eared bastard are still demanding “clean” bills on the CR and debt ceiling with no strings attached before they are willing to negotiate.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM

I write JavaScript and jQuery code every single day at work and this doesn’t even make sense to me. How do you even code like this let alone try to debug it?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Easy – 8a (minority owned small business) set aside contracts given to incompetent companies with crony connections. Pretty standard government contracting – and results.
I see it all the time – 30 years in DoD, 26 of that as a contractor.

You’d almost think building and deploying a functional web site is way out there advanced technology that isn’t already done, ohh 1000 times a day….

dentarthurdent on October 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Are you aware that the insurance being pushed on these exchanges is Kaiser? Total crap! It’s not a very reputable company to start with and I’m sure the deductibles will be very high. I don’t have very high expectations for this program at all. My major problem is that I just turned 65 and am on Medicare as long as the money holds out!

Boats48 on October 10, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM

And yet, the “concerned” around here are telling us that it’s the GOP’s fault.

kingsjester on October 10, 2013 at 1:07 PM

FYI—–From my desktop I’ve NEVER seen service on this site SLOWER.

It’s still not opening this post. THAT has never happened before. It might be a good idea to start getting personal contact info from fellow HotAirians.

NOTHING is beyond the scope and power of this Ruling class.

FYI—-this post was successful only from the mobile device.

PappyD61 on October 10, 2013 at 1:08 PM

“For example, if a private company employing 1,000 people does not offer minimum essential coverage and some workers then obtain subsidized coverage through health-care exchanges, the IRS could impose penalties of $2,000 for 970 employees, or a total $1.94 million.”

Indiana’s state government could be hit with at least $56 million in Obamacare penalties, the attorney general’s office notes:

“For State government, with approximately 28,000 employees in the executive branch (not including the legislative and judicial branches), the potential penalty for non-compliance could be approximately $56 million or more.”

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/matt-vespa/15-indiana-school-districts-sue-obamacare-state-faces-56m-potential-penalties

davidk on October 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Easy – 8a (minority owned small business) set aside contracts given to incompetent companies with crony connections.

dentarthurdent on October 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Are you saying that 8a set-asides don’t always provide a quality outcome? I am shocked! ;0

Seriously, I wouldn’t doubt this is a big factor. Pick a company based on gender or race with total disregard that the company is unable to meet the scope of the contract due to lack of experience, size of the company, or some other factor. I once sat in on a planning meeting for some structural work where the minority-owned company didn’t even have the contractually-mandated software programs on the first day of the project (let alone any understanding on how to use it). Needless to say the project took twice as long and cost twice as much as it should have.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

the desktop is STILL locked up………and it’s just this site.

Weird.

PappyD61 on October 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

The lead story over on CNBC’s website:

Business groups see loss of sway over House GOP

As the government shutdown grinds toward a potential debt default, some of the country’s most influential business executives have come to a conclusion all but unthinkable a few years ago: Their voices are carrying little weight with the House majority that their millions of dollars in campaign contributions helped build and sustain.

Their frustration has grown so intense in recent days that several trade association officials warned in interviews on Wednesday that they were considering helping wage primary campaigns against Republican lawmakers who had worked to engineer the political standoff in Washington.

.
Published by the NYT this morning, picked up by CNBC this afternoon.

I’d have included the link … but it can’t get past the filters.

I wonder how long till this is newsworthy on Hot Air?

PolAgnostic on October 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Now it’s working……must have been a NSA / DOJ / Homeland Security kill switch test.

Carry on.

PappyD61 on October 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Most excellent news… Obamacare is the most efficient government program in history of mankind… I think every President must work at least for two years agitating welfare queens in some inner city because this kind of job resume will guarantee us a great leader and President as with Obama whose work for many years agitating welfare queens in inner city Chicago made him without any doubt and by far the greatest President in history… Long live our welfare queens…

mnjg on October 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM

In other news…ObamaScare website STILL doesn’t work!!

SoonerFn4Lfe on October 10, 2013 at 1:13 PM

the desktop is STILL locked up………and it’s just this site.

Weird.

PappyD61 on October 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

I wonder why nobody is calling this a VIRUS?

Freddy on October 10, 2013 at 1:14 PM

. . . . . and there was much rejoicing … yayyy . . . (somewhere in the White House).
.

listens2glenn on October 10, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Business groups see loss of sway over House GOP

As the government shutdown grinds toward a potential debt default, some of the country’s most influential business executives have come to a conclusion all but unthinkable a few years ago: Their voices are carrying little weight with the House majority that their millions of dollars in campaign contributions helped build and sustain.

Their frustration has grown so intense in recent days that several trade association officials warned in interviews on Wednesday that they were considering helping wage primary campaigns against Republican lawmakers who had worked to engineer the political standoff in Washington.

.
Published by the NYT this morning, picked up by CNBC this afternoon.

I’d have included the link … but it can’t get past the filters.

I wonder how long till this is newsworthy on Hot Air?

PolAgnostic on October 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Sounds exciting! :-)

I’m all for letting the populist right eat the “business” leftists. Some of those folks are more loyal to Davos and the Hollywood premier party than they are the American people.

Punchenko on October 10, 2013 at 1:16 PM

And yet, the “concerned” around here are telling us that it’s the GOP’s fault.

kingsjester on October 10, 2013 at 1:07 PM

I’ve got a few words for the concerned but they wouldn’t make it past the filters.

The Dem response:

“While we are willing to look at any proposal Congress puts forward to end these manufactured crises, we will not allow a faction of the Republicans in the House to hold the economy hostage to its extraneous and extreme political demands. Congress needs to pass a clean debt limit increase and a funding bill to reopen the government.”

And even before they’ve seen the House bill, Harry Reid and the Senate Dems are going to vote (yet again) on raising the debt ceiling for a full year with zero in the way of concessions to the House.

Where’s the progress? How can there be progress so long as the lazy stupid coward acts like he can be a dictator who need not address dissenting views and ideas?

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2013 at 1:18 PM

No one wants Obamacare. That’s why no one is signing up. Glad we spent close to $1 Trillion.

nazo311 on October 10, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Flashback

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2013/03/19/implementing-obamacare-is-an-impossible-endeavor/

Implementing ObamaCare is an “impossible endeavor”

Will the government be able to implement Obamacare smoothly? An “impossible endeavor,” writes a reader who describes himself as “83 years young, married to a beautiful lady for 65 years, with a 54-year career in technology starting with punch cards in the Navy, retired from three major corporations at the director level, last position was with EDS working on Y2K project.” He goes on to list some of the things he believes need to be done, which I quote with his permission. I don’t know enough about this to make a judgment myself, but I have noticed over the years that the federal government has had problems procuring information technology.

RESOURCE REQUIREMENTS

Technical

o Programmers

Depending on what languages are being used will require that skill set—I bet you a lot of that code is written in COBOL and the last time I have seen that skill set was when we worked on Y2K, and we had to bring them out of retirement. …

o Technical and Subject Matter Specialists

Writers to develop Standard Operating Procedures (SOP) for the end users (How many will that be???) and SOP’s for operations. …

jp on October 10, 2013 at 1:20 PM

HN
And the lsm will call the gop to blame

cmsinaz on October 10, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Cool! I can imagine how many will be signed up by the end of the week. This is one of the biggest Web portal success stories of all time. Want to go team BO and yes I’m talking to you repubs.

Dr. Frank Enstine on October 10, 2013 at 1:21 PM

In other news…ObamaScare website STILL doesn’t work!!

SoonerFn4Lfe on October 10, 2013 at 1:13 PM

I don’t know why the administration doesn’t run this thing through that massive NSA data center in Utah. It’s got the capacity and they can pre-populate the questionaire with data the government has already collected about us.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Easy – 8a (minority owned small business) set aside contracts given to incompetent companies with crony connections. Pretty standard government contracting – and results.
I see it all the time – 30 years in DoD, 26 of that as a contractor.

You’d almost think building and deploying a functional web site is way out there advanced technology that isn’t already done, ohh 1000 times a day….

dentarthurdent on October 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Okay, but there’s no indentation and the structure is just horrid. The only type of JavaScript that is written like this are APIs and plugins like jQuery and I’m sure even the overseerers of jQuery don’t leave it like that when they are coding it and only take out all whitespace when they package it up.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 10, 2013 at 1:21 PM

You should tell them that they have two choices to take on Error404Care:

1. People aren’t just that hungry for it.

or

2. People are hungry for it, but the government is so incompetent that the Error404Care rollout is just the technological equivalent of Stalin’s Holodomor.

Resist We Much on October 10, 2013 at 12:52 PM

They think people are going wild for it because they get all their news from ABC/NBC/CBS.

Bitter Clinger on October 10, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Cool! I can imagine how many will be signed up by the end of the week. This is one of the biggest Web portal success stories of all time. Want to go team BO and yes I’m talking to you repubs.

Dr. Frank Enstine on October 10, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Should have been: Way to go team BO and yes I’m talking to you, repubs.
Damn keyboard never wants to input what I type. I blame Bush.

Dr. Frank Enstine on October 10, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Business groups see loss of sway over House GOP

As the government shutdown grinds toward a potential debt default, some of the country’s most influential business executives have come to a conclusion all but unthinkable a few years ago: Their voices are carrying little weight with the House majority that their millions of dollars in campaign contributions helped build and sustain.

I’m sorry. Can anyone tell me why this is a bad thing?

Tenwheeler on October 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM

HN
And the lsm will call the gop to blame

cmsinaz on October 10, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Yep. Sadly true.

Were I John Boehner, I’d start taking stuff off the table. Next proposal only raises the debt ceiling level for four weeks and the individual mandate is to be delayed for a year.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM

I’m sorry. Can anyone tell me why this is a bad thing?

Tenwheeler on October 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Because just like any other consumer they expect to get what they paid for. I think we need some new laws that explicitly state that Congress must deliver on bribes taken from large donors. That should fix this injustice done to people that buy congressmen and other public officials.

Dr. Frank Enstine on October 10, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Are all five morbidly obese chain smokers?

SomeCallMeJohn on October 10, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Are all five morbidly obese chain smokers?

[SomeCallMeJohn on October 10, 2013 at 1:35 PM]

More likely they were hackers, and good ones at that.

Dusty on October 10, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Maybe John Cornyn should get this guy on the job?

Is he the Dick Armey guy from the Freedom Works group (when the establishment was apparently trying to take it over in 2012). Maybe he could get the “.gov” up and running……or maybe at least get rich doing it?

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20130711-sen.-john-cornyn-hires-tea-party-veteran-to-run-2014-re-election-campaign.ece

WASHINGTON — Sen. John Cornyn has hired a prominent tea party organizer, Brendan Steinhauser, to manage his re-election bid next year.

Announcing the pick Thursday, the Texas Republican noted the importance of the 2014 elections, “especially given the interest that liberal Democrats have shown in trying to turn Texas blue.”

Steinhauser promised a “sophisticated ground campaign.” He hopes to both ensure Cornyn’s re-election and help the state GOP gird for efforts such as Battleground Texas. The group backed by President Barack Obama is registering voters in hopes of making Texas, dominated by Republicans for two decades, competitive in future campaigns.

“That’s a real threat in the years to come,” Steinhauser said.

As former director of campaigns at FreedomWorks, a Washington conservative organization, Steinhauser brings sterling tea party credentials. He organized 30 events for Ted Cruz’s insurgent Senate campaign last year. And he led grassroots efforts that helped elect other tea party favorites, Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida, Mike Lee of Utah and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania.

Cornyn has a reliably conservative record. But that hasn’t always sufficed for activists who like their leaders to kick up dust.

“You don’t necessarily have to be a firebrand. People are looking for how you vote. They’re looking at your ideas, your character, if you have the right principles,” said Steinhauser, 31. “A lot of the tea party folks are excited about this partnership.”

PappyD61 on October 10, 2013 at 1:44 PM

You didn’t build that”

I AM

- now it makes sense.

williampeck1958 on October 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM

More likely they were hackers, and good ones at that.

Dusty on October 10, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Yeah, they are now fielding calls as to how to install the next “upgrade” to the Obamacare website.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2013 at 1:52 PM

An apple a day keeps the doctor away.

An Iowan every other day means Obamacare is A-ok!

Big Government can’t even do big government right. Sadly, many people will get the wrong take-home message, and think the answer is even more Big Government.

djm1992 on October 10, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Okay, but there’s no indentation and the structure is just horrid. The only type of JavaScript that is written like this are APIs and plugins like jQuery and I’m sure even the overseerers of jQuery don’t leave it like that when they are coding it and only take out all whitespace when they package it up.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 10, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Like I said – contract given to an incompetent company based solely on the skin color / ethnicity of the owner of the company – NOT proven corporate skills in this particular industry (content of their character).

dentarthurdent on October 10, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Are you saying that 8a set-asides don’t always provide a quality outcome? I am shocked! ;0

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Well, sometimes they do.
I’ve worked for a couple 8a companies in my career – the last one was pretty bad – and I was a business developer and program manager. Although I was able to provide decent support to the Air Force when they gave me enough freedom, upper management just kept getting in the way and making the job harder. On the BD side, I exceeded their revenue goal for my first year by 100%, so they promptly doubled that actual revenue for my new revenue goal for the second year – and I almost hit it, but not quite – so I actually got paid less that year – even with nearly double the revenue stream.

But after we officially graduated out of 8a, the customer’s contracting squadron started taking our work away and giving it to a new 8a company – who charged higher prices for the same workers, for less hours of work.

What do you expect when you hire someone based on the color of their skin instead of the content of their character (or actual skills)?
Now where else I have seen THAT issue come to light????

dentarthurdent on October 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM

“At least with government, we have more accountability.” Actually, that’s not true at all, and neither is the nonsense about multiple contractors. Private-sector companies have immediate accountability through competition — if their products and services don’t work well, consumers go elsewhere, whereas a government monopoly has almost no accountability at all. (And the extent that consumers have restricted choices in the health-care market comes from an artificial restriction against selling policies across state lines.)

Actually the root problem is political mismanagement. The contractors only execute the programming at the direction of their govt overseers. Yes the problems reflect badly on CGI and Booz Allen Hamilton because they did the work but it is the customer that sets milestones and metrics by their timely provision of guidance and directives. As political as OC has been, it was bound to fail because political managers are not rational rather kneejerk. To a lesser degree so are other govt projects mainly because policies are guided by federal regulations that supersede rational best business practices.

I’ve worked with both companies on other major IT programs and can vouch that they are competent. Some of you navy, marine and army folks may already know of CGI’s logistics products such as AWRDS which were originally developed by a group of retired navy officers under Stanley Associates which was bought out by CGI a couple of years ago. That CGI is Canadian is a ‘squirrel’ much like BAE being British is a non-factor in their quality defense products.

AH_C on October 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM

That said. LIB! !!

AH_C on October 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM

This reminds me of the song by The Eagles, Hotel California.
Last thing I remember I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
Relax, said the night man We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like, But you can never leave

birdwatcher on October 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Boats48 on October 10, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Boats, check out some of the Medicare Advantage plans. They will still be available for 2014, though after that who knows.

Barred on October 10, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Why can’t you haters look at the positives for those successfully enrolled? This is 0.000016% of all Iowans.

jangle12 on October 10, 2013 at 4:28 PM

2. People are hungry for it, but the government is so incompetent that the Error404Care rollout is just the technological equivalent of Stalin’s Holodomor.

Resist We Much on October 10, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Well, maybe not as bad as the Ukraine Famine yet.
Maybe when armed USDA agents start shutting down farms and ranches.

PS
Is there a corollary of Godwin’s Law for mentions of Stalin?
Just curious — it may get repealed soon as well.

AesopFan on October 11, 2013 at 12:46 AM