CBS: ObamaCare launch “nothing short of disastrous”

posted at 8:41 am on October 10, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday, Jan Crawford told CBS This Morning that the launch of the ObamaCare exchanges have been “nothing short of disastrous,” but it’s worth noting a day later. Why?  Despite the efforts to take down and revamp the Healthcare.gov website, nothing has changed — not the performance, not the promises, and not the administration’s refusal to release any of the stats on enrollees on Day 10 (via Ace):

House Republicans reminded IRS ObamaCare chief Sarah Ingram Hall during a hearing later yesterday on ObamaCare implementation that they wanted a delay all along, while Hall insisted that everything was hunky-dory on her end:

House Republicans said Wednesday that chaos in the first nine days of open enrollment under President Obama’s health care law would justify a delay in major provisions of the law, including tax penalties for people who go without insurance in 2014.

The comments came at a hearing of a House committee, where a senior official of the Internal Revenue Service said that its work on the new insurance marketplaces was ”going fine,” just as planned. …

”Obamacare’s first week has been a mess,” said the committee chairman, Representative Darrell Issa, Republican of California. ”This law is not ready for prime time.”

Representative John J. Duncan Jr., Republican of Tennessee, said, ”This is the most messed-up, convoluted, confusing law that’s ever been passed.”

The Obama administration has had three and a half years to work on the law, Mr. Duncan said, so ”it is ridiculous, and kind of sad,” that the government was so poorly prepared for the rollout of the program this week.

What does Hall mean “as planned”?  The original plan — and the one in statutory law — required the IRS to do instant income verification to ensure against fraud in subsidy payments.  That got postponed at least a year by a White House edict, which Republicans rightly claim as improper.  The only part of the plan that the IRS still has in action is their power to fine people who don’t carry health insurance, which is hardly a difficult task after more than three years.  It’s a checkbox with an information box attached to it on a tax form, with minimal data entry needed to support it — and none at all for electronic filers.

Note: Give the New York Times some credit for reporting this, though.  Only fourteen newspapers this morning have any stories at all on the ObamaCare exchange, and most of those have to do with the shutdown talks ongoing in Congress.


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She even says the administration REFUSES to release its numbers on who has enrolled, and so nobody knows what the numbers actually are.

OK, journalists. Here’s an opening. Time to do your jobs.

Ask at every press appearance, over and over, this question:

WHY ARE YOU REFUSING TO RELEASE THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS?

Drumbeat that question. Do analyses of what it means to stonewall on something like that – a key metric of the program’s effectiveness. Make them stonewall and look like the slimy, lying, shady characters that they are until they are shamed into releasing them. If they don’t, just keep asking.

Any of you press corp bootlickers want to man up and be a journalist for a change? Any takes? Step right up!

Good Lt on October 10, 2013 at 11:28 AM

More government computer SNAFU:

And no one seems to know how to fix it.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/10/08/2-Billion-NSA-Spy-Center-Going-Flames

davidk on October 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM

If we saved only half of the $788 billion we waste, we could dump the sequester, fix our infrastructure, bolster education, and grow the economy.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/07/24/The-Government-Is-Wasting-More-Money-than-You-Think

davidk on October 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM

The Nothing Tax :

- Pass a law requiring everyone to buy a product

- Make it impossible for anyone to buy that product

- Tax everyone for not buying that product

Most ingenious tax scheme ever.

MichaelGabriel on October 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Give the New York Times some credit for reporting this, though. Only fourteen newspapers this morning have any stories at all on the ObamaCare exchange, and most of those have to do with the shutdown talks ongoing in Congress.

This is how pathetic we are. We go all weak at the knees when a NYT or a Jon Stewart actually shows some small sense of balance.

I am furious that I have to see Keith Olbermann do the commentary on the TBS baseball playoffs. Is there a snowball’s chance in hell that anyone on the right who has been as vicious and as miserable as K.O. has been on the left would get that gig?

The only way we’re going to start changing this bias is to go after corporate pocketbooks. Advertisers must know that we’re going to choose competitors’ products if they support programming with biased editorial and personnel policies.

bobs1196 on October 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Eggs, you are sooooo behind the information curve. John Roberts said definitively that this is a tax. Calling it a fine makes it, well, unconstitutional.

NOMOBO on October 10, 2013 at 11:22 AM

It was only a tax for the 2 hours the administration argued it was and the half-hour it took Chief Lawgiver-In-Black Roberts to stab us in the back and write that part of the opinion.

Steve Eggleston on October 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM

At some point you Generic Obama Supporters will figure out that you have been used and lied to. Or not.

Bmore on October 10, 2013 at 8:49 AM

No. No, they won’t.

krome on October 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM

It’s not about healthcare, it is about setting up an initial mechanism in which the government is intimately aware of everything each citizen does so that they can use it to control its citizens.

To the government its citizens are the enemy.
Citizens must realize its real enemy is always the government and be kept in check.

albill on October 10, 2013 at 11:50 AM

At some point you Generic Obama Supporters will figure out that you have been used and lied to. Or not.

Bmore on October 10, 2013 at 8:49 AM

No. No, they won’t.

krome on October 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM

The Soviet Union’s useful idiots had no clue what was really happening – right up to their executions.
I don’t see that 0barky’s useful idiots are any brighter.

dentarthurdent on October 10, 2013 at 11:52 AM

What do you expect with liberals running a $634 MILLION dollar website implementing a program 70% of the country doesn’t want while insuring an additional 0% of the population as millions lose their insurance. 30 million will lose full time hours and lose their healthcare benefits resulting in a net zero gain in insured.

dthorny on October 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM

We are bringing Western civilization to its knees by selling private insurance plans on a web site where people pick and choose.”

– Kathleen Sebelius, Health and Human Services Secretary

ITguy on October 10, 2013 at 10:25 AM

What a load of crap.

http://www.eHealthinsurance.com has been providing that service for a couple of decades, at least. I’ve used it. And it works. There are others.

When I have used it I had as many as 50 or more different plans to choose from, at different prices, with different deductibles, and different coverages. If health insurance companies could sell across state lines there would be even more choices and the prices would be lower due to competition. That’s how free enterprise and a free market works.

The difference here — the one “bringing Western civilization to its knees” — is that Obamacare limits the choices you have and what private health insurance providers can offer to four plans, and only four plans, that government bureaucrats and socialist politicians have dictated and specified. And the cheapest covers more than many people need or want.

Sebelius and her fellow socialist travelers argue that too much choice is bad (one of the defining marks of a socialist, BTW) and that makes the job of selecting a plan too complicated for too many people.

However, these same people have no problem selecting a vehicle to buy from the hundreds of makes, models, trim lines, and option packages available. And that’s if you buy new. If you are in the used car market there are many more hundreds of different makes, models, trim lines, and option packages spanning many years.

Buying health insurance is much more important than buying a vehicle. And yet we are to believe that spending as much time researching and selecting a health insurance plan as one would a vehicle is an undue burden and something ordinary folks just can’t handle. They need the government, Sebelius and Comrade O, to simplify it for them, and for everyone whether you like it or not.

It’s all socialist lies, propaganda, and. The ultimate goal is to drive private health insurance companies out of business and in the interim make them little more than extensions of the state.

There are few bigger liars in this world than socialists crusading to advance The Cause. They learned well from Comrade Lenin.

farsighted on October 10, 2013 at 12:23 PM

It’s all socialist lies, propaganda, and BS.

farsighted on October 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM

The Soviet Union’s useful idiots had no clue what was really happening – right up to their executions.
I don’t see that 0barky’s useful idiots are any brighter.

dentarthurdent on October 10, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Just a shame that it takes a bullet to the brain to improve some people’s intelligence.

questionmark on October 10, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Wouldn’t be nice if this is all the LSM had to talk about? You know, if there weren’t a debt ceiling crisis and government shutdown and all to distract from this story?

Thank you GOP.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 12:28 PM

We are bringing Western civilization to its knees by selling private insurance plans on a web site where people pick their noses while waiting and choose from only 3 crappy plans.”

– Kathleen Sebelius, Health and Human Services Secretary
ITguy on October 10, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Truth is tough.

NOMOBO on October 10, 2013 at 12:31 PM

At some point you Generic Obama Supporters will figure out that you have been used and lied to. Or not.

Bmore on October 10, 2013 at 8:49 AM

No. No, they won’t.

krome on October 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Of course not.

Most of them are socialists who already know its all lies. But they support it because The Cause of government provided and run health care is the righteous “socially just” end that justifies the means.

The rest are probably too stupid to figure it out before it’s too late.

The socialists repeat the lies in the hope enough of the sheeple keep buying their load of crap until it is too late to turn back. Once the tipping point is reached it will be very, very difficult to return to a privately run health care industry. Especially if almost half of the population is getting “free health care” from the government.

farsighted on October 10, 2013 at 12:34 PM

A JavaScript file from Healthcare.gov

Wow I write JavaScript and jQuery code every single day at work and this doesn’t even make sense to me. How do you even code like this let alone try to debug it?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 10, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Mjbrutus
They would find new squirrel before giving too much attention on this boondoggle

cmsinaz on October 10, 2013 at 12:38 PM

– Kathleen Sebelius, Health and Human Services Secretary Nurse Ratched
ITguy on October 10, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 12:41 PM

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 12:28 PM

So, the Shutdown is the GOP’s Fault?

kingsjester on October 10, 2013 at 12:43 PM

A JavaScript file from Healthcare.gov

Wow I write JavaScript and jQuery code every single day at work and this doesn’t even make sense to me. How do you even code like this let alone try to debug it?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 10, 2013 at 12:37 PM

I was thinking Barky did the websites himself, but this proves otherwise. Much to complicated for that simple mind. That is evil code!

TerryW on October 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Wouldn’t be nice if this is all the LSM had to talk about? You know, if there weren’t a debt ceiling crisis and government shutdown and all to distract from this story?

Thank you GOP.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Dear imbecilic DailkyKos blogger, kindly go get stuffed and jog off. Your democrat party, who you donate to and vote for hasn’t passed a budget in 5 years. If you profligate spending godless reprobates hadn’t decided to create a Free Shit Army™ by wealth transfer payments using the government, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

So go practice falling down in traffic.

Murphy9 on October 10, 2013 at 12:47 PM

The OCare website fix is like using a hot glue gun to hold together a house of cards.

drfredc on October 10, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Eggs, you are sooooo behind the information curve. John Roberts said definitively that this is a tax. Calling it a fine makes it, well, unconstitutional.

NOMOBO on October 10, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Actually, calling it a tax is also unconstitutional. It didn’t originate in the House.

Mitoch55 on October 10, 2013 at 12:53 PM

This one fits over here as well as the other Error404care thread.

I don’t see how you get anywhere close to $600MM unless the design phase was just AWFUL.
Chris of Rights on October 10, 2013 at 12:54 PM

That’s the key right there – but actually one step earlier in the process.
In my 30 years with DoD, about 8 yers of it as a contractor requirements analyst, I can tell you the government is HORRIBLE at defining and writing system requirements, which leads to a bad design, which leads to a dysfunctional system.
$100M estimate, $93.7M bid (expecting change orders to add to the cost for higher profit), $634M actual cost – par for the course for what I’ve seen over 30 years.

dentarthurdent on October 10, 2013 at 1:18 PM

dentarthurdent on October 10, 2013 at 1:21 PM

I am furious that I have to see Keith Olbermann do the commentary on the TBS baseball playoffs.

bobs1196 on October 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Well, at least Keef’s not actually in the booth helping to call the games. My problem (which will again play itself out tonight in ALDS game 5) is that the TBS team for the Tigers-A’s series has too many mouths in the booth. They are using our Red Sox TV team of Don Orsillo and Dennis Eckersley (who replaced Jerry Remy after Remy’s son was charged with murdering his girlfriend!). Those two are stellar, but then TBS went too far by dropping Blue Jays play by play man Buck Martinez into the same booth. The guy cannot keep his mouth shut.

Del Dolemonte on October 10, 2013 at 1:21 PM

John Cornyn……..bad bad dude.

Here’s a report based on his hiring of one of the gop rejects that got ousted in the Dick Armey purge in 2012.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/07/11/john_cornyn_hires_a_tea_party_campaign_manager.html

He neeeeeeeeds to be primaried.

PappyD61 on October 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Cornyn is a power forward on the Washington Generals. He’s the guy Curly bounces the ball off of the back of his head and the way to a dunk. Cornyn is running his ads with the fiddle music playing ing the background. So phoney.

pc on October 10, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Problem with the far right is that all they do is complain. They offer no solutions outside of let the free market take care of it.
This is why Obamacare with all its problems is still preferred over any of the “free market” default solutions the GOP has to every problem.

loveofcountry on October 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Murphy9 on October 10, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Do you feel better now?

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Actually, calling it a tax is also unconstitutional. It didn’t originate in the House.

Mitoch55 on October 10, 2013 at 12:53 PM

The vehicle for it did, and that’s close enough for the Lawgivers-In-Black.

Steve Eggleston on October 10, 2013 at 1:47 PM

So, the Shutdown is the GOP’s Fault?

kingsjester on October 10, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Yes. Of course it is. Thats’ just a matter of fact. They placed a condition (defunding Obamacare) on a CR and DL increase that they knew would never be accepted and so produced the shutdown.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Eggs, you are sooooo behind the information curve. John Roberts said definitively that this is a tax. Calling it a fine makes it, well, unconstitutional.

NOMOBO on October 10, 2013 at 11:22 AM

It was only a tax for the 2 hours the administration argued it was and the half-hour it took Chief Lawgiver-In-Black Roberts to stab us in the back and write that part of the opinion.

Steve Eggleston on October 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Here’s a question: Since John Roberts said it’s a tax, why didn’t he rule it unconstitutional because it originated in the Senate and Artilce 1 Section 7 of the United States Constitution says:

All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

My guess is that since the Senate took a House bill, gutted it, and replaced that shell with the Senate Bill, that is “deemed” an “amendment” to the House bill.

It’s certainly neither honest nor “transparent”. The fact of the matter remains that meat of ObamaCare, which has portions regarding raising Revenue, originated in the Senate, not the House.

It’s a shame that Roberts ruled that Constitutional.

ITguy on October 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM

So, the Shutdown is the GOP’s Fault?

kingsjester on October 10, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Yes. Of course it is. Thats’ just a matter of fact. They placed a condition (defunding Obamacare) on a CR and DL increase that they knew would never be accepted and so produced the shutdown.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, I rest my case. They always reveal themselves.

kingsjester on October 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM

My guess is that since the Senate took a House bill, gutted it, and replaced that shell with the Senate Bill, that is “deemed” an “amendment” to the House bill.

It’s certainly neither honest nor “transparent”. The fact of the matter remains that meat of ObamaCare, which has portions regarding raising Revenue, originated in the Senate, not the House.

It’s a shame that Roberts ruled that Constitutional.

ITguy on October 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Dingy Harry perfected that game, and in his rush to flip his opinion and stab the country in the back, Roberts put the official stamp of approval on it.

Steve Eggleston on October 10, 2013 at 1:56 PM

kingsjester on October 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM

I know that you’re trying to be malicious and belligerent and all that, but you’re not making any sense.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 1:59 PM

loveofcountry on October 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM

The land is where she is because is idiots like you and Jeantels.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Here’s a question:

Never mind…

Actually, calling it a tax is also unconstitutional. It didn’t originate in the House.

Mitoch55 on October 10, 2013 at 12:53 PM

The vehicle for it did, and that’s close enough for the Lawgivers-In-Black.

Steve Eggleston on October 10, 2013 at 1:47 PM

ITguy on October 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 1:59 PM

The point is, you just proved yourself to be whom Murphy9 said you were.,through you’re blaming of the Republicans, instead of your president’s refusal to negotiate.

kingsjester on October 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

loveofcountry on October 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Paul Ryan has proposed budgets every year that the chamber has been GOP, which the House has passed. Harry’s Senate has yet to pass single since PBHO was elected, one even when the Donkey’s controlled both houses.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

and so produced the shutdown.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM

NO, that is NOT true…they ultimately funded everything, except they asked that the congress and obama, and their clans, live under obama’care’, like all others they shove it down the throats of…and Harry and obama refused.

Wake up already and don’t lie.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

kingsjester on October 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

I simply acknowledged a simple fact. I didn’t know that facts were ideology. Does acknowledging gravity make one a Democrat or a Republican?

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Paul Ryan has proposed budgets every year that the chamber has been GOP, which the House has passed. Harry’s Senate has yet to pass single since PBHO was elected, one even when the Donkey’s controlled both houses.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Proof that you can make 100% sense.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Dingy Harry perfected that game, and in his rush to flip his opinion and stab the country in the back, Roberts put the official stamp of approval on it.

Steve Eggleston on October 10, 2013 at 1:56 PM

I do have to wonder if Roberts broke the law in any way with the adoption of his children (rumors that they were really Irish children, born to an Irish mother temporarily transported to Latin America to get around Irish adoption laws) and if he was threatened in some way about that if he didn’t vote in favor of Obamacare.

ITguy on October 10, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I simply acknowledged a simple fact. I didn’t know that facts were ideology. Does acknowledging gravity make one a Democrat or a Republican?

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Except that you didn’t. The Rs backtracked on all the obama’care’ demans, but the one where all had to live under it, as it s/b.

See my esplanation above.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:08 PM

To make it easy, MJBrutus, it’s the truth

NO, that is NOT true…they ultimately funded everything, except they asked that the congress and obama, and their clans, live under obama’care’, like all others they shove it down the throats of…and Harry and obama refused.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

That came later. Their original stand and the one that was in place when the deadline hit was to defund Obamacare.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:09 PM

That came later. Their original stand and the one that was in place when the deadline hit was to defund Obamacare.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:09 PM

So what? A lot of things come later…they do most of the time. That is where it is at the moment, plus the many items that were funded by the House and are stalled by Harry and obama.

Put the blame where it belongs, or be accused of being a leftist.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Fact. The shutdown was originated by the GOP’s demand to defund Obamacare.

Fact. The Donkeys, thinking they had the upper hand, perpetuated it.

There is no ideology to those statements. Not any more than there is to say that massives objects exert an attractive force called gravity.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Love this

Imagine the first lady being this Heidi. Cool first family that w/b.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:14 PM

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM

The facts are what I typed at you and nothing will change them.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:14 PM

The fact is that Alinsky loves all who distort the facts and mock reality…in their pursuit of chaos and sozi-communism.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM

God, I hate you RINOs more than libnotfreeordie. YOU will ruin the land way more.

Amnesty will do it, hand in hand with obama’care’.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:14 PM

The facts you stated do not contradict mine. However, you only presented half of them and constructed an ideological context which is belied by what was left out.

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:19 PM

In the event of a split into two countries, it could and should be a peaceful split. There is no reason for any violence. Both sides would get the type of culture/government that they like. Win / Win.
KirknBurker on October 10, 2013 at 11:23 AM

While I hope and pray this country splits in two, with each side embracing its own idea of the American ideal, I can guarantee you that it will NOT be peaceful. Imagine the most acrimonious divorce you know and multiply it by 150 million.

Maddie on October 10, 2013 at 2:21 PM

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

The Paul Ryan “solution” only appeals to hard core partisans like you and everyone here. Ask any low info voter(folks who decide elections) what the GOP solution is and I bet you they wouldn’t know. Why? Because the GOP doesn’t have anything outside of their “free market” fantasy talking points. Ask anyone what Obamacare is and I bet you they would at least tell you its an insurance program mandating everyone get insurance. They may not like all of Obamacare but at least they know its a solution. Unlike the GOP “solution” which is to demonize and name call everyone who questions where their solution is. Oh I forget, freeeeee markettttt

loveofcountry on October 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Silly…we all know what was previous. Why do I need to belabor that. I don’t deal with Jeantel on this site, thank God.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Free market or

Socialism

Mhhh, having a hard time deciding…gnatbrain. The land is lost because there are too many of you. Breed, rats and rabbits.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 2:24 PM

The shutdown is killing ObamaCare…

d1carter on October 10, 2013 at 2:25 PM

What is happening in California with the final push of illegal immigration, their votes, and complete Dem control is what the Dems want to roll out to the rest of the country.

It will either lead eventually to a UK-like socialist cesspool…or, an eventual split of parts of the SW to Mexico, or a major move to secede/split the country into two countries, one for Americans and one for the Progressives.

In the event of a split into two countries, it could and should be a peaceful split. There is no reason for any violence. Both sides would get the type of culture/government that they like. Win / Win.

KirknBurker on October 10, 2013 at 11:23 AM

The reason for violence is that progressives have no interest in “peaceful coexistence”. They seek absolute power over everybody, and as long as one person is not under their control, they feel thwarted.

Also, they have seen “peaceful coexistence” fail. Most notably in the formerly divided Germany. Even the Berlin Wall and 866 miles of concrete, barbed wire, land mines, machine gun posts, and trigger-happy Volkspolizei (East German “People’s Police”) could not save the Worker’s Paradise that the Communists tried to build on the East side. As P.J. O’Rourke once observed, it took Communism to make a political failure and an economic basket case out of a country full of Germans- something even the combined Allied armed forces in the ETO, including RAF Bomber Command and the U.S. 8th and 15th Army Air Forces were not able to achieve.

East Germans first deserted to the West in droves, and finally tore down the Wall, the rest of the border, and finally the whole structure of the “People’s Democratic Republic” itself. Today, Angela Merkel, a woman born and raised as a good Communist in the East, is the leader of reunited Germany- and on the pro/anti-Communist side, she stands somewhere to the right of Lady Thatcher.

They will never take the chance of that happening again. Ever.

If they cannot have Absolute Power, they will have Absolute Destruction. So they can build Utopia on the ruins- with far fewer peasants they have to worry about keeping under control.

So forget a “win/win”. Their motto is “Heads I win, tails you lose- and if you give me any lip I’ll f**king kill you.

Literally.

clear ether

eon

eon on October 10, 2013 at 2:28 PM

If the registration software for ObamaCare (which should have been a slam dunk in a programming sense) is so FUBAR, then what does the claims processing software and interfaces to all the places it is supposed to go look like ?? That is really the tougher part.

Maybe it is good only a couple dozen people were able to sign up, that way they will be able to hand process the claims !!

KenInIL on October 10, 2013 at 2:29 PM

loveofcountry on October 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM

It’s not a solution. Is anybody being helped by it, yet? people can’t even sign-up for it. It’s not a solution. It’s a SNAFU.

kingsjester on October 10, 2013 at 2:29 PM

loveofcountry on October 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM

So you’re saying that Ryan’s budgets, which balance the nation’s annual deficits in under a decade don’t count as an offered solution because the ignorant masses can’t tell you about it?

I saw an experiment recently asking people if they were in favor Obamacare and/or in favor the Affordable Care Act. Most were too stupid to know they were the same thing. But hey, they’re your peeps.

As for demonizing and name calling, that’s a hoot. Has a day gone in the last month by when the lefties haven’t called the GOP terrorists, hostage takers, suicide bombers and on and on? Obama won his reelection primarily by smearing the reputation of a sincerely good, honest and generous mensch, painting him as a robber baron and even a killer. But that’s all sauce for the goose, isn’t it?

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM

They may not like all of Obamacare but at least they know its a solution.loveofcountry on October 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Solution to what? What problem does O-Care solve?

questionmark on October 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM

blink on October 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM

The Left’s biggest fear is that somebody, somewhere might earn themselves an honest buck.

I saw Dick Durbin trying to justify the medical device tax. He says that since Obamacare will result in more business for them, we needed to tax them more on the profits they would make! Oh dear, without a new tax those people might get away with making more money by selling innovative solutions to complex medical needs. We can’t let them get away with that!

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Now I get what pelosi meant by having to “pass” it to see what’s in it.

By “pass” it she meant crap it out and now we are seeing what the little yellow dots in it actually are……more crap.

RealMc on October 10, 2013 at 3:05 PM

The Paul Ryan “solution” only appeals to hard core partisans like you and everyone here…

…Oh I forget, freeeeee markettttt

loveofcountry on October 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Don’t remember seeing this free market hating, big government socialist economic planning loving troll recently.

But then, there are so many using so many different handles I forget.

farsighted on October 10, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Unlike the GOP “solution” which is to demonize and name call everyone who questions where their solution is.

loveofcountry on October 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM

LOL. Right, it’s the Republicans who’ve been calling anyone who opposes their policies raaaaacists, bigots, terrorists, traitors, etc.

Republicans like Obama, Pelosi, Reid . . . .

AZCoyote on October 10, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Unlike the GOP “solution” which is to demonize and name call everyone who questions where their solution is.

loveofcountry on October 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM

When you’re a gnatbrain it’s best to shut up for a time. See verbie. She learns.

Schadenfreude on October 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM

MJBrutus on October 10, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Ring me up the minute you get mugged by reality, you fking reprobate.

Murphy9 on October 10, 2013 at 4:23 PM

I love that unicorn!

WaPo is getting the picture, finally.

PattyJ on October 10, 2013 at 4:43 PM

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