Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on October 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

White House press secretary Jay Carney said Monday he was “proud” of President Obama for saying over the weekend he would “think about changing” the name of the Washington Redskins.

Carney noted he was a longtime Redskins fan and a native-born Washingtonian.

“I was proud of my president on this issue,” the press secretary said.

He also said that he did not believe Obama had called Redskins owner Dan Snyder to discuss the name.

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The NFL declined to comment about Obama’s statement. But the president’s comments were applauded by the Oneida Indian Nation, which is hosting a protest event in Washington on Monday at a hotel where NFL owners are scheduled to convene for their fall meeting.

“As the first sitting president to speak out against the Washington team name, President Obama’s comments today are historic,” Ray Halbritter, a representative for the group, said in a statement. “The use of such an offensive term has negative consequences for the Native American community when it comes to issues of self-identity and imagery.”…

According to a June poll conducted by the Washington Post, 66 percent of adults in the D.C. area do not support a name change.

Nonetheless, former Federal Communications Commission Chairman Reed Hundt is working to persuade broadcasters to stop using the Redskins name as several prominent sports journalists, including Sports Illustrated’s Peter King, have already done.

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Roger Goodell avoided direct replies to a question Tuesday about whether “Redskins” is a racial slur and if Washington’s team should change its name.

“Whenever you have a situation like this, you have to listen and recognize that some other people may have different perspectives and clearly there are cases where that’s true here,” the NFL commissioner said at a news conference at a Washington hotel. “And that’s what I’ve suggested and I’ve been open about — that we need to listen, carefully listen, and make sure we’re doing what’s right.”

Speaking at the conclusion of the league’s fall meetings, Goodell noted that he grew up in the Washington area rooting for the Redskins and “by no means … have I ever considered it derogatory as a fan, and I think that’s how Redskins fans would look at it.”…

“I am confident that the Redskins are listening and I’m confident that they’re sensitive to their fans — to the views of people that are not only their fans but are not their fans,” Goodell said.

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To see whether it’s right to use “Redskins” as a mascot, NFL owners gathering in Georgetown on Tuesday for their fall meeting should substitute some other common racial epithets and see how they would sound: The Washington Wetbacks? The Houston Hymies? The Chicago Chinks? Or perhaps the New York Niggers? That would be enough to send anybody to the shotgun formation.

“This word is an insult. It’s mean, it’s rude, it’s impolite,” Kevin Gover, who is Native American and director of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of the American Indian, said Monday at a news conference on the eve of the NFL meeting. “We’ve noticed that other racial insults are out of bounds. . . . We wonder why it is that the word that is directed at us, that refers to us, is not similarly off-limits.”…

The best argument was made not by a Native American but by an African American, the District of Columbia’s delegate to Congress, Eleanor Holmes Norton. “My great-grandfather was a runaway slave,” she said. “I went to segregated schools, just like many Native Americans. . . . I don’t see how anyone who has gone through our historic experience can fail to identify with Native Americans who are raising this issue. Need I remind them of the terms that have been attached to us in history and how the moment we hear one of those terms, you’ve got an uprising?”

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There are Native American schools that call their teams Redskins. The term is used affectionately by some natives, similar to the way the N-word is used by some African-Americans. In the only recent poll to ask native people about the subject, 90 percent of respondents did not consider the term offensive, although many question the cultural credentials of the respondents…

“We just don’t think that (name) is an issue,” Yazzie said. “There are more important things like busing our kids to school, the water settlement, the land quality, the air that surrounds us. Those are issues we can take sides on.”

“Society, they think it’s more derogatory because of the recent discussions,” Yazzie said. “In its pure form, a lot of Native American men, you go into the sweat lodge with what you’ve got — your skin. I don’t see it as derogatory.”

Neither does Eunice Davidson, a Dakota Sioux who lives on the Spirit Lake reservation in North Dakota. “It more or less shows that they approve of our history,” she said.

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In my small survey, the most distinct indicator of how someone would feel was how much experience they’d had with the non-Native American world. Those who’d gone off-reservation for college, or lived in off-reservation towns like Rapid City, generally wanted the name changed. Those who’d spent most of their lives on the reservation, and dealt with non-Natives on a much more sporadic basis, seemed more likely to shrug it off.

Why is this so? Maybe because people who’ve lived in the white world have first-person experience seeing their culture mocked by outsiders

Meanwhile, ESPN’s Rick Reilly interviewed teachers and administrators from a handful of reservation and majority-Native American high schools that use the Redskins name. He found that at those schools, the nickname can actually be a matter of pride. But where Reilly errs is in comparing the Washington, D.C., Redskins to largely Native schools — and to Notre Dame, whose teams of course go by the nickname “Fighting Irish.” It’s unclear exactly where the term “Fighting Irish” originated, but most stories have it as an insult directed at Notre Dame players, who then took it on as a mark of pride, turning the insult into a hard-won honorific, just as any number of ethnic, religious and sexual-orientation minorities have taken on derogatory terms in the same way. (People around Pine Ridge do the same thing with insults all the time, wearing Redskins and Cleveland Indians “Chief Wahoo” baseball caps with a mixture of irony and pride.) There’s the key difference between Notre Dame and the Washington Redskins: Notre Dame is a Catholic, largely Irish institution. “Fighting Irish” is their term to use. Ask your average Irish-Catholic South Bend alum how he’d feel if Oxford University, pride of the British Empire, announced that its new mascot was a pugilistic leprechaun cartoon. If he’s a real Fighting Irishman, he might, as Reddy would say, “fuck you up.”…

“I talked to some friends about it,” [one Native American woman] said, “and one of them is a nurse who’s trying to bring [public health] programs into the schools. The other is trying to get a business off the ground. We all felt pretty much the same: that the name is offensive … but that there are other things to worry about. The tribal housing [department] finally fixed the furnace at my house the other day, and for the first time in my life, we actually have good, working heat in the house. The other night me and my mom were saying, ‘Oh, I get the oil heater in my room tonight,’ ‘Oh, I get the Amish heater,’ and my little brother said, ‘Why are you two arguing about space heaters? The heat works now!’ There are more important things to worry about than something like that Redskins name that we can’t change anyway.”

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In the consciousness of the nation’s capital, the Redskins exist somewhere between a beloved sports team and the object of a quasi-religious veneration. The team has a rich tradition, including a 70-year-old fight song, “Hail to the Redskins,” performed by a marching band — “Braves on the Warpath! / Fight for old D.C.!” Its burgundy-and-gold uniforms and its logo are iconic, and the team’s long rivalry with the Dallas Cowboys has always made its nickname seem perfectly apt.

Surely, the franchise didn’t settle on its nickname as a way to slight Native Americans. No one picks a team name as a means of disparagement. San Francisco didn’t choose the name “49ers” because it wanted to mock the foolish desperation of people panning for gold in the mid-19th century. Dallas didn’t pick the name “Cowboys” to highlight the gunslinging violence of life on the American frontier. Team nicknames and logos invariably denote fierceness and strength, which in the context of the NFL are very good things.

Yes, the name “Redskins” is an anachronism, but it is a harmless one. It isn’t meant as a statement of how people should refer to Native Americans, nor would any rational person take it as such. A team nickname is a highly stylized symbol utterly removed from reality. Are we supposed to believe that the team’s cheerleaders are popularly known as the Redskinettes because that’s what people think Native Americans called their women?

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[N]o longer can I justify my years of indifference to the sports moniker. The name must change. Let’s toss it in the trash heap along with other now offensive — but once widely used — monikers such as Sambo, darky, dago and kike…

Predictably, many Redskins fans are livid that the president would jump into this fight. They are hypocrites. They’re not the only people who can have an opinion about this matter…

The football team’s glorious history may indeed stretch back 80 wonderful years, but what intelligent person, or even a diehard football fan like me, could seriously argue that 80 years of entertaining football history could ever compare to the thousands of years that the original Americans have inhabited this land?

It’s time to get on the right side of American history.

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The Redskins name will change sooner than you think — two or three years, tops. The franchise and the NFL have to realize they’ve lost control of the story and aren’t getting it back. That opportunity has long passed…

But neither Snyder nor the NFL will be strong-armed into changing the name. There are too many egos involved for that. Snyder isn’t going to let Mike Wise run his franchise and the NFL won’t want to change league policy because of public pressure. So, for now, they’ll both weather the storm. Then, when the uproar has quieted down, the team will make a surprise announcement about a name change…

Right now, the debate is mostly toothless. It’s being played out in newspapers and televisions with little interest from fans or sponsors. But if the Redskins make the Super Bowl in the next few years, the story will becomes worldwide news. It will be two weeks of talk about the name rather than a celebration of football. Or what happens if one sponsor comes out against the name? Others may quickly get in line. Once money is involved, a change may have to be made. The key for the Redskins and the NFL will be to act before they have no other choice.

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It’s not a matter of “if” anymore, but rather “when.”

The debate over whether a people are denigrated or honored by the name of the Washington NFL team, like the absurd debate over whether the name is a unifying force, is over…

The NFL, through Adolphus Birch, its senior vice president of labor policy and government affairs, has asked that a meeting originally scheduled for Nov. 22 be moved up — and, if needed, to the Oneida reservation in Verona, N.Y.

Think about that: The NFL, which has spent tens of thousands of dollars defending the team from American Indian plantiffs seeking to strip its trademark in court for the better part of two decades, has offered to go to the res to talk…

Brace yourselves for change. Five years tops, it’s gone. And it’s about time.

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So to sum it up:

There have been no mass protests outside of FedEx field, the home of the Redskins demanding a name change.

Eight in ten Americans don’t want the name changed.

Most fans in the DC-area don’t want the name changed.

Native Americans are mostly apathetic on the issue.

But…a growing number of white sports writers are certainly passionate about it…

The name ain’t going to be changed as long as the owner is still breathing.

Good for him.

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“History is littered with people who have vowed never to change something – slavery, immigration, women’s rights,” said Halbritter. “One thing that’s really great about this country is when many people speak out, change can happen.”

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Good Morning HA :)

cmsinaz on October 9, 2013 at 6:42 AM

Perfect.

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2013 at 6:39 AM

2nd that….

thank you KJ

cmsinaz on October 9, 2013 at 6:44 AM

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2013 at 6:39 AM
cmsinaz on October 9, 2013 at 6:44 AM

Thank you both!

kingsjester on October 9, 2013 at 6:46 AM

King George did not like the Tea Party, either.

lol

https://twitter.com/SketchbookAxe/status/387892963142934528

Yours may have come first.

*cough*

Axe on October 9, 2013 at 6:52 AM

^@kj

Axe on October 9, 2013 at 6:52 AM

mika slapped in the face with the fact that in the 1930′s the southern democrats blocked civil rights legislation.

meacham had this look that said dumb blonde.

renalin on October 9, 2013 at 6:53 AM

renalin on October 9, 2013 at 6:53 AM

priceless….about time someone actually brought this up

cmsinaz on October 9, 2013 at 6:59 AM

King George did not like the Tea Party, either.

True but you didn’t have Lord North calling Sam Adams a “wacko bird” from the floor of Parliament.

Look, the modern-day Tea Party Movement is different in that it is a struggle not against outward tyranny but the tyrants currently destroying the conservative movement with their willingness to surrender instead of standing up for conservative principles. More concerned about political power and position instead of smaller government and fiscal responsibility. A go-along-to-get-along mentality instead of telling the enemy “no.”

Yeah, I’m talking about you John Boehner!

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2013 at 7:02 AM

mika slapped in the face with the fact that in the 1930′s the southern democrats blocked civil rights legislation.

renalin on October 9, 2013 at 6:53 AM

I’m willing to bet that Mika learned a totally different version of civil rights history. More akin to the factually-baseless crap a certain concern troll throws out here on a regular basis.

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2013 at 7:04 AM

Yepper HN

cmsinaz on October 9, 2013 at 7:08 AM

in paul ryans op ed not one mention of obamacare.

what say you bluegill?

renalin on October 9, 2013 at 7:14 AM

they could change it to the Washington Nearly Extinct Stone Age Barbarians. Though that is a bit of a mouthful it’s probably more factually accurate.

bannor on October 9, 2013 at 7:17 AM

in paul ryans op ed not one mention of obamacare.

what say you bluegill?

renalin on October 9, 2013 at 7:14 AM

I’m no fan of Paul Ryan but, to be fair, I think politicians in Congress need to be selective in what battles they champion. Ryan has always been a fiscal and amnesty advocate more than an outspoken dissenter of Obamacare.

The solution to Obamacare is simple. If it is the law of the land and not going to be defunded then it applies to all equally (including Congress). If the business mandate is delayed then so to is the individual mandate. If the individual mandate is not delayed then neither is the business mandate.

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2013 at 7:22 AM

they could change it to the Washington Nearly Extinct Stone Age Barbarians. Though that is a bit of a mouthful it’s probably more factually accurate.

bannor on October 9, 2013 at 7:17 AM

We already have a shortcut term for that… Congress.

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2013 at 7:23 AM

Rare morning spam. Blame b9; she gave me confidence to share it. It’s really short, and it sort of wrote itself as it happened yesterday.

Man, I gotta quit politicking and get back to work. This “short break” got out of hand quick.

Axe on October 9, 2013 at 7:25 AM

Remember when, oh, just a decade or so ago, that the MFM would have treated this story as:

‘Native Americans in desperate poverty, lacking central heating in homes, and activists in DC attempt to distract from this using names of sports team to ignore the issue?’

Ah, those were the days of the MFM actually trying to destroy US culture by castigating it over actual issues. Alcoholism. Poverty. Lack of central home services. Pool living conditions.

Today?

Gladly distracted by the shiny object.

Feel the COMPASSION oozing out of their pores on this.

And it’s interesting to note that only those Natives who have gone to schools by the White Man think this is an issue, as well. They have been treated to the ‘exploit feelings to gain importance’ over their Native brothers and sisters they left behind. Their elders warned their people about this. But the Left needs a new generation of ‘leaders’ willing to let their own people suffer so as to make a bundle on it as ‘experts’ and ‘leaders’… just like Jesse Jackson Jr. and Al Sharpton.

If you are a Native and think you have it bad NOW, just wait until the facilitators of this meme come home claiming ‘victory’ and ignoring the actual plight of their own people. Your misery is their eternal reward.

ajacksonian on October 9, 2013 at 7:31 AM

My take: “The Shutdown: Of Parks, Presidents, Prayers, and a Puny Presser By a Petulant President”

kingsjester on October 9, 2013 at 6:34 AM

…beautiful…just a beautiful piece… like a Grand Canyon view with the sun setting !

KOOLAID2 on October 9, 2013 at 7:31 AM

I need to install a syntax checker… poor living conditions, above… not that I’ll pay that much attention to it, but out of place words properly spelled need something to catch them on the fly…

ajacksonian on October 9, 2013 at 7:33 AM

KOOLAID2 on October 9, 2013 at 7:31 AM

Thank you for those kind words!

kingsjester on October 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM

Thank you for those kind words!

kingsjester on October 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM

…no…no!…we’re thanking you!

KOOLAID2 on October 9, 2013 at 7:46 AM

I said this before, but it’s becoming clearer every day:

Nine months and counting before an announcement of the change in name. The only question is: will there be enough time to get new uniforms for next season?

Probably, but watch for misspelling of “Washington Multi-culturalists.”

Nomennovum on October 9, 2013 at 7:47 AM

Nine months and counting before an announcement of the change in name. The only question is: will there be enough time to get new uniforms for next season?

Probably, but watch for misspelling of “Washington Multi-culturalists.”

Nomennovum on October 9, 2013 at 7:47 AM

You’re deluded if you think the Redskins are going to see a name change in the amount of time it takes for a child to get through the birthing process.

I agree with the sentiment that there may ultimately be a pandering to the politically correct bastards but it will be on different terms than under the gun of some group of native Americans more interested in PC than the very real problems of alcoholism, illiteracy, obesity, and domestic abuse among their own people. They should be spending all that gaming money on those social issues before making up problems.

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2013 at 7:59 AM

Probably, but watch for misspelling of “Washington Multi-culturalists.”

Nomennovum on October 9, 2013 at 7:47 AM

How about the Washington Senator Warren Skins?

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on October 9, 2013 at 7:59 AM

The owner should change the name to the Foreskins. See how that goes over.

Connecticut on October 9, 2013 at 8:00 AM

Goodness gracious, are we not sick of this, yet?

urban elitist on October 9, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Catching a little of Moaning Joe, and they had Sela Ward on. Now, I don’t know a ton about her, but I’ve always thought she’s absolutely yummy. Anyway, the interview seemed a little awkward in that the New Yawkers seemed to have trouble handling a woman who’s pretty impressive, but hails from the Deep South.

One problem with the segment is that Sela was plugging something called Virtual Piggy, a financial management tool for kids. She said kids can’t open a bank account until age 15, which is incorrect. And she discouraged one of the MSNBC asshats from taking his daughter to the bank to open an account. C’mon, Sela, that’s what UTMA accounts are for.

The closing was great. Sela was chatting up Ole Miss and said that Oxford, MS, was a great town. I thought the Manhattanites were going to puke.

BuckeyeSam on October 9, 2013 at 8:04 AM

I’m wondering who got this particular ball rolling, and why? Someone, somewhere, had to have gotten up one morning and said, “You know, I think I’ll agitate to have the Washington Redskins change their name.”

Cleombrotus on October 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM

Fight the Left’s efforts to co-opt the language at every step.

Washington Marriage-between-Man-and-Woman’s

mjbrooks3 on October 9, 2013 at 8:06 AM

Washington Busybodies

Cleombrotus on October 9, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Washington Fussbudgets

Cleombrotus on October 9, 2013 at 8:12 AM

“I was proud of my president on this issue,” the press secretary said.

That priss didn’t get locked in his school locker enough times.

Cleombrotus on October 9, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Washington Reid Pederast Football Club

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on October 9, 2013 at 8:15 AM

“I was proud of my president on this issue,” the press secretary said.

Did he say that with a lisp and a slight downward wave of his left hand? With his right on his hip, slightly bent?

What a sycophant.

Cleombrotus on October 9, 2013 at 8:18 AM

The Washington Red Diaper Babies?

Fallon on October 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM

I’m wondering who got this particular ball rolling, and why? Someone, somewhere, had to have gotten up one morning and said, “You know, I think I’ll agitate to have the Washington Redskins change their name.”

Cleombrotus on October 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM

This is what community organizers do best.

Fallon on October 9, 2013 at 8:20 AM

The Washington Red Diaper Babies?

Fallon on October 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Boy, ain’t that the truth.

Cleombrotus on October 9, 2013 at 8:22 AM

King George did not like the Tea Party, either.

Nice take and Tweet. I have run into country club Republicans who aren’t so fond of us, either. Meh.

Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets.

It’s like we told you Obamacare wouldn’t work…

Grrr… th.

Fallon on October 9, 2013 at 8:28 AM

The NFL really should be more sensitive and change the following names to start with.

Perhaps even setup a fund to support these activist groups as they pursue other injustices around the country (like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton shaking down Toyota a few years ago)

For essample:

Pittsburgh Steelers
(“Steelers” isn’t that a throwback to a carbon emitting capitalist activity?)

Houston Texans (sounds very offensive to hispanics who were robbed of this land in the 1830′s)

Tennessee Titans
(very self-confident and exhuberant)

New England Patriots (OH MY GOSH, THE WORST)

New York Jets
(Again, carbon belchers)

San Diego Chargers
(Electricity, bad, and really shouldn’t ALL TEAM NAMESS in California be changed to the Mexican equivalent at this point?)

Green Bay Packers (sounds very meaty, offensive to Vegans)

Minnesota Vikings (militaristic, harsh and almost neanderthal)

New Orleans Saints (HELLO, Religious)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (very piratey, terroristic)

Dallas Cowboys (Rapers of the west and the pristine land maulers)

San Francisco 49ers (Again, they pillaged the earth and destroyed the matchless California landscape in their greedy pursuit).

PappyD61 on October 9, 2013 at 8:28 AM

This is what community organizers agitators do best.

Fallon on October 9, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Fixed.

chewmeister on October 9, 2013 at 8:30 AM

….and shouldn’t the NFL be “flag football”, and let’s make them Pink flags with sparkly streamers hanging from them.

And let’s have a weight limit of say 200 pounds, and only play maybe 2 halfs of 10 minutes so they don’t really get tired.

And shouldn’t women be allowed to play at that point?

PappyD61 on October 9, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Minnesota Vikings (militaristic, harsh and almost neanderthal)

Nordic and White, too. Check your privilege, L’Etoile du Norders.

Fallon on October 9, 2013 at 8:33 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/check-possible-designs-possibly-renamed-washington-redskins-154242468–nfl.html

And Yahoo News is already running new uniform and helmet ideas for the CRIMSONSKINS.

PappyD61 on October 9, 2013 at 8:34 AM

I’m an old white tea party type person who gets called all kinds of vile nasty vulgar names all the time by so called representatives of the people, as well as so called comedians and news opinion types. Do I get offended, sure, but that’s not what I protest when I do go out to protest what’s happening to this country. I’m part native, too, so I’ve got a little skin in this game. The Seminole tribe in Florida has oked the use of the name Seminole for Fla State teams but the Fighting Sioux in Dakota had to give their name up. Something isn’t right here and the PC crowd is just flexing their muscles again.

Kissmygrits on October 9, 2013 at 8:35 AM

And now you can’t call women that are gargantuan “PLUS SIZE”.

http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/what-plus-size-women-really-want-to-be-called-191011833.html


What Plus-Size Women Really Want to Be Called

It’s “curvy,” not “plus size.” Got it? That was the top response among women size 14 and over, when asked about their preferred marketing term in a recent survey by retailer Sonsi. Other questions delved into body image, fashion influences and wardrobe essentials, with the results, released on Monday, providing great insight into the ways that curvy women perceive themselves.

So are there “curvy” and “really curvy” or “ripply” or “wavy” or “extra curvy” or “tsunami curvy” or “oceanic”? How far to go with this one?

PappyD61 on October 9, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Utter rubbish, “redskin” is no more offensive than “paleface,” which is its homologue. Neither is offensive, they were simply terms to distinguish Native American tribes from white settlers…

Pest on October 9, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Logus on October 9, 2013 at 3:39 AM

I’ve known a few Cajuns, and in particular a couple of guys, brothers, and they and their wives referred to themselves as “coona$$es” regularly and it was clearly an affectionate term used among themselves and a badge of pride when they used it among us Yankees.

Normally I love the Quotes of the Day, but with everything else going on, I can’t believe that today’s Quotes of the Day focus on the Washington Redskins. This is sad.

Theophile on October 9, 2013 at 5:51 AM

I agree, it seemed trifling at first. But It is a case of PC disease that deserves to treated with ridicule. Right now, I’m so completely disgusted with Obama’s contemptible abuse of the office of the presidency it was good to have a softer focus in the evening.

novaculus on October 9, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Ha ha, love the picture. Of the white guy pretending to be Indian.

It is a running joke among my wife’s tribe, the Ho-Chunk. Ask the majority of white people who claim to be Indian what kind they are, and 9 times out of 10 they will say “Cherokee”. Probably because they don’t know many of the other tribe names.

Then ask an actual Indian if they are offended by a team’s “Indian” name, and most couldn’t care less. At least the ones who aren’t in the Tribal Nation’s governmental body, or press. Things are the same all over, aren’t they?!

Sterling Holobyte on October 9, 2013 at 9:46 AM

This word is an insult. It’s mean, it’s rude, it’s impolite,” Kevin Gover, who is Native American and director of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of the American Indian

Let me guess, Cherokee??

Sterling Holobyte on October 9, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Well, if it must be changed perhaps they should name it in honor of Obama:

The Washington Thinskins

CTimbo on October 9, 2013 at 9:57 AM

As alway, I have come up with a solution the problem. They should keep the Redskin nickname but replace the indian head on the helmet with a potato. that way they can still keep the fight song and all… I should really get started on this debt limit thing pretty soon I guess….

supersport667 on October 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Just purchased more Redskins gear for everyone in my family! I am sick of this manufactured PC issue and I am sick and tired of Hot Air’s daily posts on the subject. If the Redskins ever change their name, they will cease to be the 2nd most valuable team in the country. That is the fact! And to the so called offended “Native Americans”…get over it. I’m Catholic and even government officials have disparaged my religion. So what? I am also of German heritage. I don’t get offended when every movie portrays Germans as the bad guys. No word has the power to harm anyone. Stop it!

fight like a girl on October 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM

The Seminole tribe in Florida has oked the use of the name Seminole for Fla State teams but the Fighting Sioux in Dakota had to give their name up.

Kissmygrits on October 9, 2013 at 8:35 AM

There’s a spectrum. The Atlanta Braves probably wouldn’t be asked to change their name, because it sounds more like an honor. “Fighting Sioux” is in the same vein as “Fighting Irish.” “Redskins” sounds more like a pejorative. I think they might change that one but doubt the others will change. I think the Cleveland Indians won’t be asked to change their name, for instance, but I notice that Chief Wahoo has been made less noticeable. (The team often wears hats on the road with just a “C” on them.)

bmmg39 on October 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM

I am Cherokee as well…and see no problem with the name ‘Washington Redskins’.

1) The greatest ‘disease’ to infect, undermine, and damage this entire nation is ‘Political Correctness’. This is more of it.
– People are offended. So what?! No where in the Constitution does it say you have the Right NOT to be Offended! Free speech lends to someone’s feelings getting hurt more often than not. And if you don’t like the name of the team and don’t want to support them anymore because you are ‘offended’, FINE – don’t support the team anymore. No one is forcing you to.

2) Teams don’t adopt mascots that are weak, racist, or pick one to make fun of anyone. Teams pick strong, brave, fierce, intimidating, loyal ‘icons’, things that bear traits that are highly respected.

3) If you FORCE Washington to re-name the team because someone is offended by the term ‘Redskin’, you are going to have to ask most of the other teams to do the same thing for the same reason:
VIKINGS: Vikings are notoriously known for RAPING, Plundering, and Pillaging – that is offensive.
COWBOYS: Sorry…known for killing Native American Women, Children, and old People , stealing Native American Land…and come on – CowBOY? How sexist! If anything, ‘CowPERSON’!
PANTHERS: Why does it have to be a BLACK Panther? And Black Panthers are members of a ‘militant Black Organization’ – doesn’t get much more ‘offensive’ than that!
STEELER: Nope…Obama’s ‘War on Coal’ – can’t have a ‘positive’ reference to an antiquated lifestyle/business of plundering the earth for fossil fuel while contributing to the earth-destroying Climate Change!
Etc….

I can see if we had a team called the ‘MISSISSIPPI CLAN’ with some guy in a sheet carrying a burning cross on the sideline or the ‘Los Angeles Illegals’ (Team/PR Slogan: “Watch Those Illegals Run”), but “OME ON, MAN!”

People need to just get over it!

easyt65 on October 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM

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