Spite House priorities: Missing kids out, hydration in; Update: DoJ retreats, restores site

posted at 8:07 am on October 7, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

After a week of inexplicable and expensive measures to deny access to memorials that have no barrier to entry and to physical sites that aren’t actually run by the National Parks Services. the Obama administration has earned the sobriquet “Spite House.”  Over the weekend, NPS kicked out residents on Lake Mead, including an elderly couple who had 24 hours to clear out of their own home:

Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They’ve been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn’t an option.

The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they’ve owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out. …

Joyce Spencer said she’s alright in the meantime, staying with nearby family, but the move was a lot to handle as a senior citizen.

“I had to be sure and get his walker and his scooter that he has to go in,” Spencer said. “We’re not hurt in any way except it might cost me if I have to go buy more pants.”

As if that wasn’t bad enough, the effort then turned from physical sites to virtual sites.  Despite having funds to run essential operations — which most would figure includes law enforcement operations, especially those involving the safety of children — the Department of Justice shut down the Amber Alert website system over the weekend:

The Amber alert system, the national missing-child warning program, has been shut off due to the government shutdown, according to the Department of Justice.

“Due to the lapse in federal funding, this Office of Justice Programs website is unavailable,” it says on amberalert.gov.

The Amber Alerts proper are still in operation, but the federal website served as an important central point of search on news of missing children.  There is no reason to shut down a website that is already up and running, either.  It doesn’t save money unless they’re turning off the servers, and they’re clearly not doing that. The website might not get updates if the staff running it is furloughed, but once up and running it should more or less run on its own — much like the World War II memorial does when NPS officials are not on duty.

So, missing kids? Non-essential.  The Spite House scolding kids to hydrate? Totally essential, as Twitchy reports this morning:

letsmove

Priorities.

Update: Jake Tapper reports that the faceplant became too much for the DoJ and the White House:

In any case, after some negative publicity over the weekend and concern by many members of the public that the whole system was down, the Justice Department reversed course and restored the AmberAlert.gov website. …

The official told CNN that the website is informational only, detailing the department’s role in providing training to states on how to have an Amber Alert system, and that the alerts themselves were not affected. Amber Alerts are issued jurisdictionally, by county or state, the official said, adding that the Amber Alert system, which consists largely of press notifications, highways signs, and tweets, is functional and not affected by the shutdown.

The Justice Department official explained the website’s page appearing as if Amber Alert is down by saying, “The Office of Justice Programs (OJP) ran out of funds on Friday so all of the sites they maintain about the work they do went offline.”

It was not clear as to why it would cost less to change the website’s appearance than to just keep it the way it was.

It doesn’t cost less; it almost certainly cost more to take the site off line than it would have cost to leave it alone.  Spite House, indeed.


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Well, it’s good to see that they are willing to let a child live or die in the pursuit of their liberal goals. A little cancer here and a little pervert there and you can have this nation whipped into order in no time.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Unless the topic is guns, in which case it’s acceptable to abolish the 2nd Amendment if it will “save just one child’.

But a larger issue is that these revolutionaries like BO and his pals Ayers & Dohrn always believed human life was expendable in pursuance of their Communist Utopia. Ayers and Dorhn cited 25 million as a fair number to exterminate; I don’t believe Barry Obama cited a number, but he did advocate violent revolution as a young Marxist attending Occidental University.

How we arrived at the point that this “man” occupies the White House/Spite House is one of the greatest and most tragic farces of all time.

Buy Danish on October 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Even if they were honest and fair about what they shut down, can you imagine the hell Michelle Antoinette would visit upon Barrycade’s head if he shut down her pet site?

“Re-open that site; you hear me Barack!?!?!? I’ll kick your skinny ass clear back to Shitcago, and tell Faux news what you and Reggie do behind closed doors. You hear me Barack?”

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Well no one can imagine like you.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Just so I understand the position of the resident leftist trolls, When the next shutdown happens and there is a Republican in the whitehouse, they will have no problem if the National Endowment for the arts, The Depts of Labor, Education, EPA, etc. have their funding cut/frozen and are declared non-essential so we don’t have to put up with them?

Selective enforcement is quite alright with you guys? Just so we’re clear…

todler on October 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Reuters: President Obama has ordered the military to transport and install fog machines around the base of the Statue of Liberty. Those living in NYC are being told they can no longer view the beloved symbol of the United States from their apartment and office windows because of the government shutdown. Further, the Department of Homeland Security has issued an alert to all New Yorkers.

‘If the wind should blow the fog away making visual access possible, people should understand that they are under orders to either close the draperies or turn around,’ said the press secretary for the Department.

‘They need to close their eyes or face arrest,’ said an official for the Department of the Interior.

Due to the fear that there might be widespread civil disobedience, the Department of Justice has placed an order with Yueqing Xinguang Plastics Co, Ltd, Security Seals and Cable in Zhejiang, China, for 10 million plastic tie handcuffs.

This post will be updated. Please check back for updates.

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM

If they shut down the ObamaCare website …

… how could you tell?

PackerBronco on October 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Can we please impeach this guy already?

Shump on October 7, 2013 at 10:23 AM

The 75 year old Bitter Old White Democrat who is the Senate Majority Leader would never allow it.

Next question?

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM

I watched the movie Demolition Man last night, and was struck by how much The One reminds me of the mayor, Cocteau (Nigel Cawthorne).

Cocteau had created a supposedly “perfect” society, by P.C. standards (and yes, it was as vapid and pathetically silly as you think), but what he really wanted was total power to remake it even more. Since one small group of “malcontents” was resisting him (fairly passively and largely ineffectually, at that), he defrosted a 20th century mass murderer and full-on homicidal maniac to kill the man he thought was their leader. As it turns out, he had the wrong guy; in fact, they didn’t even have a leader.

But the idea that anyone (a)disagreed with him and (b) wasn’t under his thumb was enough to make Cocteau discard the “ideals” he championed and resort to the sort of “barbarism” he officially decried. And oh yes, he saw no contradiction in this.

My takeaway is that Cocteau was always after power, period. And that killing anyone who “dissed” him gave him tremendous satisfaction, while he piously proclaimed that he was “above all that”. Even to himself. Yes, he was one sick puppy of a narcissist.

It makes you wonder what The One would do to the American people if they ever did really piss him off.

Like maybe, telling him “no”.

clear ether

eon

No need to wonder anymore, its called the IRS, just ask Dr Carson after his speech with Oblamo in attendance.. I swear the look on O’s face makes me feel he is thinking “New list for the IRS to target”..

ThinkingForMyself on October 7, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Well no one can imagine like you.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Imagine if you ever responded honestly to anyone. I bet the world would end.

How does lowering or raising the debt ceiling prevent us from servicing the debt?

Can you see me now?

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

I asked urban elitist the following question and he stopped posting. I expect you to ignore this question as well, but I’ll ask it anyways. How does lowering or raising the debt ceiling prevent us from servicing the debt?

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 11:29 AM

DEL! We need a sundial over here, STAT!

Oh, wait, not stat. Never a rush for something that’s never gonna happen.

questionmark on October 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Sorry but the sundials are out of service here until tomorrow. We haven’t seen the sun for over 48 hours and a huge cold front is about to roar thru with high winds. There are tornado warnings out for central NY State as I speak, but they won’t make it to us here in New England.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Reagan: Mr. Gorbachev, Tear down this wall!

Clinton: I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

GW Bush: The people that did this will hear from all of us soon!

B Obama: Eric, shut down that site!

can_con on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Well, it’s good to see that they are willing to let a child live or die in the pursuit of their liberal goals. A little cancer here and a little pervert there and you can have this nation whipped into order in no time.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Just a ‘dry run’ for the o-Care Death Panels.

socalcon on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

No need to wonder anymore, its called the IRS, just ask Dr Carson after his speech with Oblamo in attendance.. I swear the look on O’s face makes me feel he is thinking “New list for the IRS to target”..

ThinkingForMyself on October 7, 2013 at 12:43 PM

0barky’s enemies list by now must be quickly approaching the white pages for the entire US….

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Sorry but the sundials are out of service here until tomorrow. We haven’t seen the sun for over 48 hours and a huge cold front is about to roar thru with high winds. There are tornado warnings out for central NY State as I speak, but they won’t make it to us here in New England.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

It’s raining so hard here, the Amish are actually Bathing.

ToddPA on October 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Well, it’s good to see that they are willing to let a child live or die in the pursuit of their liberal right wing goals.
Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 12:29 PM

You know…if you were a poster at Kos instead of HA.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Well no one can imagine like you.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Let’s Move b!tch!
I hope they are paying you well.

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM

must read at market-ticker

Murphy9 on October 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Buy Danish on October 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM

I think we can put the entire blame squarely on the shoulders of the Fourth Estate. What I wonder is just how many readers and how much revenue loss does it take to neutralize them?

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Those are Barrycades since Obama believes he own the sun.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I think we can put the entire blame squarely on the shoulders of the Fourth Estate Fifth Column. What I wonder is just how many readers and how much revenue loss does it take to neutralize them?

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM

FIFY

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 12:50 PM

B Obama: Eric, shut down that site!

can_con on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

0barky: Sally, put up those walls!!!!

(Sally Jewel, Sec of Interior)

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 12:50 PM

You know…if you were a poster at Kos instead of HA.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM

You would know, wouldn’t you?

‘Cept around here, your poster has the caption “This is your brain on DRUGS”…

Shepherd Lover on October 7, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Buy Danish on October 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM

I think we can put the entire blame squarely on the shoulders of the Fourth Estate. What I wonder is just how many readers and how much revenue loss does it take to neutralize them?

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM

It will take at least four hundred dump trucks full of manure, cow and chicken, to equal out the crap they generate.
Verbaluce will need two dumps.

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM

B Obama: Eric, shut down that site!

can_con on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

0barky: Sally, put up those walls!!!!

(Sally Jewel, Sec of Interior)

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Putin: Mr. 0bama, tear down those walls!!!!

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM

“Let’s shut down the government!!”

“Yay, we shut down the government!!”

“Oh sh*t, we shut down the government.”

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 10:24 AM

You know…if you were a poster at Kos instead of HA.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM

But I am not and nor did anyone one of my ideology stop cancer research or Amber Alerts. Don’t blame us because the mask has slipped.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Imagine if you ever responded honestly to anyone. I bet the world would end.

How does lowering or raising the debt ceiling prevent us from servicing the debt?

Can you see me now?

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Kinda sick of the ‘answer this question!’ game.
I did. Either you missed it or you didn’t like my answer.
Why don’t you answer this one: Would a default be a good thing?
Do you want a default? What conditions should be set by your Reps to negotiate on that? I mean…why would you only have Obamacare on that list…I’m sure there other things YOU would like to see.
And how else might you ever be able to have the govt run the way YOU want….right?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

You would know, wouldn’t you?

‘Cept around here, your poster has the caption “This is your brain on DRUGS”…

Shepherd Lover on October 7, 2013 at 12:50 PM

(I didn’t really need to add the /sarc tag, did I?)

;)

Shepherd Lover on October 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Those are Barrycades since Obama believes he own the sun.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM

But can he control the weather?

http://liveblog.wtop.com/Event/Tornado_watch_posted_for_DC_metro_area

MontanaMmmm on October 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Putin: Mr. 0bama, tear down those walls!!!!

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Better yet-
Putin: Mr. 0bama, tear down those barrycades!!!

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

What conditions should be set by your Reps to negotiate on that? I mean…why would you only have Obamacare on that list…I’m sure there other things YOU would like to see.
And how else might you ever be able to have the govt run the way YOU want….right?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Riddle me this obamatron:
Which politician has actually said “I will jnot negotiate”?

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

But I am not and nor did anyone one of my ideology stop cancer research or Amber Alerts. Don’t blame us because the mask has slipped.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Just the mask that you’ve all recently put on.
Come on…it’s less government. Remember how sick you were of the ‘nanny state’ and all that?

Tip O’Neil had a story about telling Reagan once “Mr. President, if you sign this bill there’s a kid in Virginia that will lose his medications” (or something like that).
Reagan signed the bill and then turned to one of his aids and asked “Can we get some medicine to that kid in Virginia?”

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Over the weekend, NPS kicked out residents on Lake Mead, including an elderly couple who had 24 hours to clear out of their own home:

Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They’ve been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn’t an option.

The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they’ve owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out. …

Joyce Spencer said she’s alright in the meantime, staying with nearby family, but the move was a lot to handle as a senior citizen.

“I had to be sure and get his walker and his scooter that he has to go in,” Spencer said. “We’re not hurt in any way except it might cost me if I have to go buy more pants.”

Verbaluce….can you explain THIS? I assure you, this couple was never forced to move out BEFORE THIS administration. The media would have reported that against the 95 shutdown. Honest answer please. Don’t just pull it out of your a$$.

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 12:59 PM

The 8th Air Force now being sent in to take out all the bald eagles.

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

What he has said is ‘put the gun down and we’ll talk’.
You consider ‘negotiating’ with hostage takers to be if they offer to just stab instead of shoot.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Surprisingly you did respond.

Lowering it…now that’s an idea you can sell to Cruz & co.

Sounds good to me.

The debt remains regardless and there will be some funds there to service that debt. The would need to be decisions made on what bills to pay or not to pay. Hey, maybe we could, like, select things individually and have congress vote on them…bit by bit.
Cool!

Whether there is a budget or not as long as there revenues the debt service gets paid first.

As far as how it impacts beyond that, the mere risk of it before sent the S&P down 20%.

Yeah, no it didn’t. Any impact on the markets had to do with the United States credit rating, and the understanding that spending is out of control. The markets didn’t want a debt ceiling rise and nothing else.

But you think it’s all just silly they’re making-it-up-stuff…all those so called ‘experts’.
So you pine for a default.

The experts like Moodys who said we won’t default?

If revenues outperform debt obligations we have the ability to service the debt, period. The debt ceiling has zero impact on that. Raising the debt ceiling does not service the debt, but adds to it. And no matter how high the debt ceiling is, if our debt outperformed revenue we would be in default.

Maybe then, the Repubs could ‘negotiate’ that Obama has to resign and Roe v. Wade must be overturned. And free cowboy boots for Texas reps!

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:37 PM

You’re right, your posts would be much more enjoyable if they were humorous. But sadly you fail at that well.

And still you did not answer the question…

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Benjamin Franklin’s “Poor Richard” quotes now disappearing from almanacs all over the world.

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM

What he has said is ‘put the gun down and we’ll talk’.
You consider ‘negotiating’ with hostage takers to be if they offer to just stab instead of shoot.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Stupid us. Demanding only a clean CR and refusing to negotiate in any way, shape, or form means something entirely different then what it really means.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Obama reminds of that devil from that Stephen King movie, Storm of the Century…”give me what I want and I’ll go away”.
Then, it will be business as usual…golfing, vacations, trips to further fukc the US, and not meeting with anyone.

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:59 PM

What? Any legislation that doesn’t increase the cost and power of the federal government is not an assault on the poor and down trodden. It is an opportunity to succeed. Something a lot more people need to try to do more often.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM

What he has said is ‘put the gun down and we’ll talk’.
You consider ‘negotiating’ with hostage takers to be if they offer to just stab instead of shoot.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

They bring a knife, you bring a gun. Get in their faces. Yeah, your guy lollipop.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_knife_fight.html

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Kinda sick of the ‘answer this question!’ game.
I did.

So?

Either you missed it or you didn’t like my answer.

I missed it, but I responded above.

Why don’t you answer this one: Would a default be a good thing?

No.

Do you want a default?

No.

What conditions should be set by your Reps to negotiate on that? I mean…why would you only have Obamacare on that list…I’m sure there other things YOU would like to see.
And how else might you ever be able to have the govt run the way YOU want….right?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Besides ObamaCare being defunded I would like to see a balanced budget. Simple as that.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:07 PM

It must be tough being an 0bama fluffer here when 0bama gives marching orders then undercuts his sycophants.

cozmo on October 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Wow, you are such an idiot. Refusing a debt ceiling raise is not a default.

blink on October 7, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Why do you suggest something that isn’t…but, duh.
If I run out of money it doesn’t mean I haven’t paid my mortgage bill.
Just like you, I am technically correct!
Meanwhile…

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

verbaluce, do you support the Obama administration’s efforts to make the shut down as absolutely painful on the American people as possible?

blink on October 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

I already asked that. Apparently, does not compute. Shake the Magic A$$ Ball again.

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

All living ex-Presidents now being ordered to report to out of sight, out of mind detention centers.

All “Nutrition Facts” squares now being ripped from cereal boxes all over the country.

The words and phrases “United States,” “sequestration,” “disingenuous,” “filibuster,” “unalienable,” and “continuing resolution” are no longer available. List in flux: citizens can check WhiteHouse.gov for a current list — or can they.

Developing . . .

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Besides ObamaCare being defunded I would like to see a balanced budget. Simple as that.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:07 PM

You are so reasonable.
Ok, we know what laws you’d like undone.
Good to have that.
Please have a seat. Should just another few minutes and we’ll have this all set for ya.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

The House consists of a majority of Republicans and represent their constituents. They are not hostage takers nor terrorists. This is not 2009 and Obama is not king.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Why do you suggest something that isn’t…but, duh.
If I run out of money it doesn’t mean I haven’t paid my mortgage bill.
Just like you, I am technically correct!
Meanwhile…

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Federal monthly revenues: ~$250 billion

Debt service per month: ~$30 billion

We can afford to pay the ‘mortgage bill.’

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Kinda sick of the ‘answer this question!’ game.
I did. Either you missed it or you didn’t like my answer.
Why don’t you answer this one: Would a default be a good thing?
Do you want a default? What conditions should be set by your Reps to negotiate on that? I mean…why would you only have Obamacare on that list…I’m sure there other things YOU would like to see.
And how else might you ever be able to have the govt run the way YOU want….right?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

It reminds me of one of those old, tired flourescent light bulbs. No matter how many times you flip the switch, it barely lights up and does that crazy, swirly thing. You open up the fixture, and yep, sure enough, all dark and nasty on both ends.

Time for a new bulbTROLL!

Tenwheeler on October 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

verbaluce, do you support the Obama administration’s efforts to make the shut down as absolutely painful on the American people as possible?

blink on October 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Oh, you wanted one of those government shutdowns where nothing gets shut down.
Damn, this isn’t going the way you want…right?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Under the nearly impenetrable press embargo virtually no one except attentive blog and alternative news site readers knows about this.

Mason on October 7, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Y’all do realize that verby is sexually gratifying himself by making idiotic arguments then bouncing while y’all flagellate him?

cozmo on October 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Interesting… Someone mentioned in another post that the the Office of Justice programs website was down. Indeed, it seems to be. But just for kicks, I added a “/menu” at the end, and goodness gracious, there it is! I checked some of the other gov’t websites, and what a mish-mash. Some simply re-directed all URLs to a “shutdown” page. The Census one was the craziest. They actually replaced the content of every single page with a “shutdown” note. That means that someone had to copy and re-name the same file at least 120 times — that’s approximately all the links from the home page anyway — and re-upload all those files to the servers. What a completely freakin’ waste of time and money!!

Over the weekend, I taught my daughter the old adage “Don’t cut your nose off to spite your face.” I only wish I had thought to use our very own government as the cautionary example.

Lan Astaslem on October 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Besides ObamaCare being defunded I would like to see a balanced budget. Simple as that.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:07 PM

You are so reasonable.
Ok, we know what laws you’d like undone.
Good to have that.
Please have a seat. Should just another few minutes and we’ll have this all set for ya.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

You tried common sense. Does not compute. Shake Magic A$$ Ball again.

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

The House consists of a majority of Republicans and represent their constituents. They are not hostage takers nor terrorists. This is not 2009 and Obama is not king.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

And Cruz isn’t an emeperoir. Or well, he shouldn’t be treated as one.
You understand that a majority in the house…you know, that reps the people, would vote for a clean CR?
So your point is what, that you champion representative democracy…except over this?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Why do you suggest something that isn’t…but, duh.
If I run out of money it doesn’t mean I haven’t paid my mortgage bill.
Just like you, I am technically correct!
Meanwhile…

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

That is some pretty big dumb there. I knew we were arguing with a dishonest idiot, but that is 100% idiot. The debt ceilign has no bearing whatsoever on our ability to service the debt, only on overall spending. Responsible people who make enough to pay the mortgage, but find themselves living beyond their means, start cutting the extras and tightening their belts. Surprisingly enough they still make their mortgage payments.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Y’all do realize that verby is sexually gratifying himself by making idiotic arguments then bouncing while y’all flagellate him?

cozmo on October 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Is lotion and tissues covered under SNAP or did he get into his mom’s Crisco and using a sock again?

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Lumberjacks wanted for “Yosemite Cost-Cutting” program.

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 1:19 PM

What he has said is ‘put the gun down and we’ll talk’.
You consider ‘negotiating’ with hostage takers to be if they offer to just stab instead of shoot.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Except 0barky is the one who said “they bring a knife, we bring a gun”.
So wouldn’t he be the one with the gun?

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 1:19 PM

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Weak response.

blink on October 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

As opposed to all my others you find so strong and convincing.
Ha.
Thanks.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Oh, you wanted one of those government shutdowns where nothing gets shut down.
Damn, this isn’t going the way you want…right?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

For starters, let’s trim the DOJ efforts against voter ID laws (which it’s going to lose), the contraception mandate (which it’s going to lose), and school vouchers in Louisiana (which it’s going to lose).

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

The House consists of a majority of Republicans and represent their constituents. They are not hostage takers nor terrorists. This is not 2009 and Obama is not king.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

And Cruz isn’t an emeperoir. Or well, he shouldn’t be treated as one.
You understand that a majority in the house…you know, that reps the people, would vote for a clean CR?
So your point is what, that you champion representative democracy…except over this?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Says the troll who lives under Obama’s tiny sack.

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Why do you suggest something that isn’t…but, duh.
If I run out of money it doesn’t mean I haven’t paid my mortgage bill. Just like you, I am technically correct!
Meanwhile…

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

And that right there is the essence of your non-argument. If your credit card company refuses to raise your credit limit, it doesn’t mean you haven’t stopped bringing in a salary to pay your credit card bill. It means you continue to pay the credit card just like your other bills, but you can’t run out and charge more on your credit card because you are maxxed out.

You really can’t be that stupid, can you?

There will be no default. It is all just political BS. See the Moodys report today.

Tenwheeler on October 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

blink on October 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Hey all…no need to respond to me when I reply to or engage with you.
Blink has you covered here.
He’s very fast.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

And Cruz isn’t an emeperoir. Or well, he shouldn’t be treated as one.
verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

And neither is 0barky – at least not according to the Constitution.

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM

The sow is still filthy, sans decency.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM

There’s not a single coherent thought in this entire comment.

blink on October 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

There never is.

chewmeister on October 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM

blink on October 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Hey all…no need to respond to me when I reply to or engage with you.
Blink has you covered here.
He’s very fast.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Everybody wants a chance to hit the piñata!!! You know, spreading the wealth around.

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Tenwheeler on October 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Actually…right there you reveal that you in fact do understand how this works.
Am I in a good financial position if my credit is cut off?
Is being able to just make the minimum payments a good place for me to be?
It seems you get that isn’t the best thing.
But your argument is what…that I am able to just get by?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

What I am saying is that this is the first time that a president has decided not to negotiate. He is the one saying that it is his way or no way. He has negotiated in the past, I still hear him whining about the sequester. This is all propaganda driven and the letters cancelling insurance that people were told they could keep are still being received. He can’t fool everyone forever.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

You are so reasonable.
Ok, we know what laws you’d like undone.
Good to have that.
Please have a seat. Should just another few minutes and we’ll have this all set for ya.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

You’re self centered and delusional prick, aren’t you? You really think no one around here hasn’t given ideas on how to reduce spending, or curb costs? I’ll give you two examples: Privatize Social Security and Medicare. The results would be much more savings for people, and much better care.

Currently no one can live on Social Security alone. For what we pay into it the returns are abysmal. Let people invest that money and keep it all for themselves and the returns would outshine our current system by light years. And the federal government would no longer have that massive debt obligation hanging around its neck.

The same goes for Medicare. Give a tax credit so people can shop for their own insurance. A tax credit costs the federal government nothing, and people would have much more flexibility and choice in their care. Especially since so many doctors don’t accept Medicare because it is so poorly manage.

How about you? You got any ideas, or are you going to continue to pretend nothing can be done?

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Citizens now ordered to mark-out Americium from all copies of the periodic table.

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM

The sow is still filthy, sans decency.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM

I am quite decent, my friend.
The vulgarities you direct at me entertain, that’s all.
But there’s more to all this than a good show.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Oh, you wanted one of those government shutdowns where nothing gets shut down.
Damn, this isn’t going the way you want…right?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

When it costs more to shut things down, yes, that’s exactly what we want. What is the point of barricades and park rangers around an unmanned, open air memorial?

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM

You’re self centered and delusional prick, aren’t you?

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Um, no.
I will say you’re being a little prick-ish here.
No offense.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM

You understand that a majority in the house…you know, that reps the people, would vote for a clean CR?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Stop reading White House press releases and start paying attention to the real world.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM

So, asking for some spending cuts is the same as asking for Obama to resign?

blink on October 7, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Well, in that case,

SPENDING CUTS NOW!

questionmark on October 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Um, no.
I will say you’re being a little prick-ish here.
No offense.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM

As expected.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Todd Starnes:

‘All about power and leverage’ — feds shut down major roadway, block access to graveyard

Nearly a third of Blount County is inside the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. So when the federal government shut down the park, it also shut down one of the area’s chief sources of revenue.

The National Park Service also closed the Foothills Parkway, a major thoroughfare in the county. The closure came without warning and left the local school district scrambling to get children back to their homes.

The children live in the eastern Tennessee community of Top of the World – serviced by School Bus 49. Normally, the bus travels along the Foothills Parkway. Other roads leading to the isolated mountain community are impassible by bus.

“It’s dangerous,” said Nancy Kemp, the spokesperson for Blount County Schools.”It’s very curvy and straight up the mountain. It’s just not a safe route.”

“One local resident told Knoxville television station WBIR that the alternative roads are “white knuckle routes.”

The Spite House once again just doing it “for the children”.

INC on October 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM

That means that someone had to copy and re-name the same file at least 120 times — that’s approximately all the links from the home page anyway — and re-upload all those files to the servers. What a completely freakin’ waste of time and money!!

Lan Astaslem on October 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

not really, a *.domain.tld redirect to that one page would redirect all items from the domain to it.

but still it took more effort (time/money) than just leaving it alone.

dmacleo on October 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Hey, guess what would have stopped all of this? A budget.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM

You really can’t be that stupid, can you?

Tenwheeler on October 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

It’s a combination of stupidity and dishonesty.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:32 PM

And that right there is the essence of your non-argument. If your credit card company refuses to raise your credit limit, it doesn’t mean you haven’t stopped bringing in a salary to pay your credit card bill. It means you continue to pay the credit card just like your other bills, but you can’t run out and charge more on your credit card because you are maxxed out.
 
Tenwheeler on October 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

 
Actually…right there you reveal that you in fact do understand how this works.
Am I in a good financial position if my credit is cut off?
Is being able to just make the minimum payments a good place for me to be?

 

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM

 
Ladies and gentlemen, all you need to know.

rogerb on October 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM

You understand that a majority in the house…you know, that reps the people, would vote for a clean CR?
So your point is what, that you champion representative democracy…except over this?

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Factually incorrect, as the repeated votes for the CRs they did send show.

dogsoldier on October 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM

And Cruz isn’t an emeperoir. Or well, he shouldn’t be treated as one.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM

WTF is an ‘emeperoir’?

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Hey, guess what would have stopped all of this? A budget.

Cindy Munford on October 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Shhhh. You’ll make it’s head explode, Mrs. Munford.

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, all you need to know.

rogerb on October 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Yeah totally clueless.

You cannot just tell your credit card company to increase your limit whenever you feel like it. With good reason.

Aiy yi yi.

dogsoldier on October 7, 2013 at 1:35 PM

WTF is an ‘emeperoir’?

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 1:34 PM

British spelling?

cozmo on October 7, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, all you need to know.

rogerb on October 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM

And if I were to say to my credit card company, “You want me to default, don’t you?” they would close my account instantly because they would come to the realization that I’m paying my bills on credit.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 1:38 PM

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