Spite House priorities: Missing kids out, hydration in; Update: DoJ retreats, restores site

posted at 8:07 am on October 7, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

After a week of inexplicable and expensive measures to deny access to memorials that have no barrier to entry and to physical sites that aren’t actually run by the National Parks Services. the Obama administration has earned the sobriquet “Spite House.”  Over the weekend, NPS kicked out residents on Lake Mead, including an elderly couple who had 24 hours to clear out of their own home:

Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They’ve been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn’t an option.

The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they’ve owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out. …

Joyce Spencer said she’s alright in the meantime, staying with nearby family, but the move was a lot to handle as a senior citizen.

“I had to be sure and get his walker and his scooter that he has to go in,” Spencer said. “We’re not hurt in any way except it might cost me if I have to go buy more pants.”

As if that wasn’t bad enough, the effort then turned from physical sites to virtual sites.  Despite having funds to run essential operations — which most would figure includes law enforcement operations, especially those involving the safety of children — the Department of Justice shut down the Amber Alert website system over the weekend:

The Amber alert system, the national missing-child warning program, has been shut off due to the government shutdown, according to the Department of Justice.

“Due to the lapse in federal funding, this Office of Justice Programs website is unavailable,” it says on amberalert.gov.

The Amber Alerts proper are still in operation, but the federal website served as an important central point of search on news of missing children.  There is no reason to shut down a website that is already up and running, either.  It doesn’t save money unless they’re turning off the servers, and they’re clearly not doing that. The website might not get updates if the staff running it is furloughed, but once up and running it should more or less run on its own — much like the World War II memorial does when NPS officials are not on duty.

So, missing kids? Non-essential.  The Spite House scolding kids to hydrate? Totally essential, as Twitchy reports this morning:

letsmove

Priorities.

Update: Jake Tapper reports that the faceplant became too much for the DoJ and the White House:

In any case, after some negative publicity over the weekend and concern by many members of the public that the whole system was down, the Justice Department reversed course and restored the AmberAlert.gov website. …

The official told CNN that the website is informational only, detailing the department’s role in providing training to states on how to have an Amber Alert system, and that the alerts themselves were not affected. Amber Alerts are issued jurisdictionally, by county or state, the official said, adding that the Amber Alert system, which consists largely of press notifications, highways signs, and tweets, is functional and not affected by the shutdown.

The Justice Department official explained the website’s page appearing as if Amber Alert is down by saying, “The Office of Justice Programs (OJP) ran out of funds on Friday so all of the sites they maintain about the work they do went offline.”

It was not clear as to why it would cost less to change the website’s appearance than to just keep it the way it was.

It doesn’t cost less; it almost certainly cost more to take the site off line than it would have cost to leave it alone.  Spite House, indeed.


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The day will come when the House returns to Democrat hands, and I can only hope that the opposition party doesn’t continue this circus show in order to to cut back military spending or to defund whatever policies it disapproves of at the moment.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Liar, you indecent scumhag.

rank amateurs are manning the wheel.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Nah, they are Zimbabwean thugs.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:03 PM

BTW, how many names do you post with?

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

How about you?
How many trolls are there in OFA that use the names bayam, verbladouche, urban elitist, libtardfreeanddie, and a few others?

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 4:04 PM

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 4:04 PM

loveofcountry, lostmotherland and other assorted computer-generated idiocies…

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:09 PM

More of this

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:10 PM

You have to love Tea Party attempts to change the way the government is funded and the disfunction that ensues.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

This can’t possibly be a serious reply. We are talking about a Senate that has refused to pass a budget since 2008, and as a result CRs have magically become the “normal” way we fund the government now, right?

Ignoring the above sophistry, why won’t the Senate fund Veterans Affairs?

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 4:11 PM

BTW, how many names do you post with?

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

?

57?

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Oct 13 will be fun. I hope the goons will not approve the veterans’ rally and they come anyway, and the bikers too…no approval needed to visit your capital, the one in which you sustain your royalty, at your hard labor’s cost.

Show them who the real boss is.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:12 PM

The House funded 26, the senate funded 0.

obama acts like a loser not like a winner, unless he won in 2012 like Mugabe did in 2013.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:14 PM

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 4:04 PM

loveofcountry, lostmotherland and other assorted computer-generated idiocies…

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:09 PM

And brayam and drywall both claim to be Canadian, but just sooooo concerned about us Mericans that they have to spend hours trolling an American web site……
Coincidence? I think not.

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Good News – it burns

I love that this exposes the amnesty traitors from both sides.

This is way cool.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:20 PM

We won’t hear from Drywall any time soon. His impertinence got a hit with wishing us comfortable “coffins”.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:21 PM

We won’t hear from Drywall any time soon. His impertinence got a hit with wishing us comfortable “coffins”.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:21 PM

So the OFA troll continues on under brayam and the other names….

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 4:23 PM

I can only hope that the opposition party doesn’t continue this circus show in order to to cut back military spending or to defund whatever policies it disapproves of at the moment.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Why? That’s EXACTLY what they are supposed to do.

The House is supposed to originate spending budgets according to how they think federal money should be spent.

blink on October 7, 2013 at 3:57 PM

When is the last time a political minority attempted to defund a federal program or policy that had already been passed by the legislature and executive, not to mention survived a challenge at the Supreme Court level?

The founding fathers envisioned a House that represented the will of the people, not the whims of an activist political group. Unfortunately, the chamber is today held captive by the GOP nomination process and its Tea Party base, not the will of the people. Even Boehner showed no support for the shutdown until the Tea Party made its political implications clear. It’s absurd that a group like the Tea Party, with support from less than 25% of the people, can hold the entire country hostage. Yes that’s exactly what’s occurring today.

If the Occupy Wall Street nuts took over the House and took the country down a comparable path, I don’t think you’d be haling the glory of the system working property.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 4:30 PM

We won’t hear from Drywall any time soon. His impertinence got a hit with wishing us comfortable “coffins”.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:21 PM

So the OFA troll continues on under brayam and the other names….

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 4:23 PM

It’s a superb illustration of the mindset behind the gulag and the gas chambers.

ebrown2 on October 7, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Fluked up brain, the House is in the majority Rs…the will of the people…and 2010 was just a warmup.

Pelosi shoved obama’care’ down the throats of the American people, at night, on X-mas, against the will of the people, but by your own theory.

How does that shit taste, you fool?

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:33 PM

When is the last time a political minority attempted to defund a federal program or policy that had already been passed by the legislature and executive, not to mention survived a challenge at the Supreme Court level?

The founding fathers envisioned a House that represented the will of the people, not the whims of an activist political group. Unfortunately, the chamber is today held captive by the GOP nomination process and its Tea Party base, not the will of the people. Even Boehner showed no support for the shutdown until the Tea Party made its political implications clear. It’s absurd that a group like the Tea Party, with support from less than 25% of the people, can hold the entire country hostage. Yes that’s exactly what’s occurring today.

If the Occupy Wall Street nuts took over the House and took the country down a comparable path, I don’t think you’d be haling the glory of the system working property.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 4:30 PM

OWS in favor of more individual liberty and fiscal responsibility? Brother, you’re really psychotic now.

ebrown2 on October 7, 2013 at 4:33 PM

The founding fathers envisioned a House that represented the will of the people, not the whims of an activist political group. Unfortunately, the chamber is today held captive by the GOP nomination process and its Tea Party base, not the will of the people.

Who controls the House?

Without the Tea Party, the Republicans wouldn’t.

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Fluked up brain, the House is in the majority Rs…the will of the people…and 2010 was just a warmup.

Pelosi shoved obama’care’ down the throats of the American people, at night, on X-mas, against the will of the people, but by your own theory.

How does that shit taste, you fool?

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:33 PM

To willfully inhuman scum like that, chocolate ice cream…

“The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven..”
― John Milton, Paradise Lost

ebrown2 on October 7, 2013 at 4:35 PM

When is the last time a political minority attempted to defund a federal program or policy that had already been passed by the legislature and executive, not to mention survived a challenge at the Supreme Court level?

When’s the last time the Senate passed a budget? The reality is that the Dems have been holding the appropriations process hostage for over 5 years now because they don’t want to be on record for their spendthrift ways. Yet the House is willing to go on record for what they wish to fund is somehow hostage taking…

The founding fathers envisioned a House that represented the will of the people, not the whims of an activist political group.

So sayeth the Canadian…

Unfortunately, the chamber is today held captive by the GOP nomination process and its Tea Party base, not the will of the people. Even Boehner showed no support for the shutdown until the Tea Party made its political implications clear. It’s absurd that a group like the Tea Party, with support from less than 25% of the people, can hold the entire country hostage. Yes that’s exactly what’s occurring today.

And they will pay politically of the American people feel they are in the wrong. But for now the process is working exactly as designed, your Canadian scolding on the original intent of the Constitution notwithstanding.

If the Occupy Wall Street nuts took over the House and took the country down a comparable path, I don’t think you’d be haling the glory of the system working property.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 4:30 PM

I wouldn’t be pretending it is working improperly. It is a foolish game to pretend things are not working as designed just because you aren’t getting your way. The House is responsible for originating spending bills, period.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 4:41 PM

It’s the GOP that’s pulled veterans into this debate by repeatedly citing the closure of DC memorials as huge affronts to the veteran community…

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:28 PM

It wasn’t the GOP that barricaded those sites, genius.

You have to love Tea Party attempts to change the way the government is funded and the disfunction that ensues.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Yeah, we should go back to the old way of doing things, where the Senate just hollows out a random House bill and fills it with all the funding they want.

When is the last time a political minority attempted to defund a federal program or policy

I don’t know, let me know the next time a minority does it. As a reminder, Republicans currently hold a 33-seat MAJORITY in the House.

If the Occupy Wall Street nuts took over the House and took the country down a comparable path, I don’t think you’d be haling the glory of the system working property.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 4:30 PM

They already did that in Madison. The progs hailed them as heroes for running away to a different state. And then the legislation passed anyway.

The Schaef on October 7, 2013 at 4:43 PM

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 4:30 PM

“the whims of political activist groups”
Would that be like the Dem controlled congress exempting themselves, political donors, unions, and the like from those very laws?
How about an executive branch that chooses which laws to enforce and which to ignore – based on the whims of their supporting political activitsts?

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 4:45 PM

It’s the GOP that’s pulled veterans into this debate by repeatedly citing the closure of DC memorials as huge affronts to the veteran community…

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:28 PM

It wasn’t the GOP that barricaded those sites, genius…

The Schaef on October 7, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Especially since anyone with a functioning gial cell know that such action takes -far- more workers to accomplish than just posting a guard.

ebrown2 on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

They already did that in Madison. The progs hailed them as heroes for running away to a different state. And then the legislation passed anyway.

The Schaef on October 7, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Good point. Bayam probably thought those Dems were heroes, or something. Of course they literally defied the system they swore to follow. I don’t see the House members running away and hiding from their responsibilities as elected representatives.

NotCoach on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

You have to love Tea Party attempts to change the way the government is funded and the disfunction that ensues.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Nah, why not go back to England and the king?

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Unfortunately, the chamber is today held captive by the GOP nomination process and its Tea Party base, not the will of the people.

Which party passed Obamacare against ‘the will of the people’?

Which party controlled the both chambers of Congress?

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 4:57 PM

It’s the GOP that’s pulled veterans into this debate by repeatedly citing the closure of DC memorials

brayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:28 PM

No, it was O’bama and the Democrats who pulled the veterans into this debate, by closing those memorials in the first place.

Now tell us again how all WW vets are Republicans, so we can laugh at you some more.

H-

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Nah, why not go back to England and the king?

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Jolly good, Eh, what. :) Let’s to the banner of the Black Prince and every man for St. George!

I can already eat with my left hand now.

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 5:03 PM

He is an AH. That’s my final conclusion about Barry Choom. The months of going back and forth on whether he is incompetent or stupid, or devious or clever. I am tired of him. Barry is an AH. My mind is made up.

steveracer on October 7, 2013 at 5:03 PM

The day will come when the House returns to Democrat hands… I can at least hope, can’t I?

brayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Edited for clarity.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 5:05 PM

When is the last time a political minority attempted to defund a federal program or policy that had already been passed by the legislature and executive, not to mention survived a challenge at the Supreme Court level?

brayam on October 7, 2013 at 4:30 PM

When was the last time a political minority refused to accept the established will of the voters, and then tried to use their favorite tool, Activist Judges, to get the results of those popular election results overturned?

Hint, it’s the Democrats, and I can give you countless examples.

F-

You’re having an even worse day than usual here. Wonder why that is?

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 5:11 PM

The day will come when the House returns to Democrat hands, and I can only hope that the opposition party doesn’t continue this circus show in order to to cut back military spending or to defund whatever policies it disapproves of at the moment.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Based on past experience, I think we can count on a Democratic House to not be overly concerned about spending money.

This is nowhere near as heavy-handed as when a Democratic Congress allowed South Vietnam to be overrun by the North Vietnamese Communists by refusing to honor our treaty to support our ally with funding and air support. Nixon ended the Vietnam War by forcing the North Vietnamese to the bargaining table, then working out a deal where South Vietnam took on the burden of defending itself instead of depending on American troops. The only thing they still depended on us for was air support and foreign aid.

And yet a Democratic Congress cut them off and let their country be overrun, including many who had been our allies, and created the wave of Vietnamese “boat people” fleeing to escape oppression.

So yes, the power to fund or de-fund the president’s initiatives has been used before, by a Democratic Congress specifically, and in contravention of treaties that a Democratic Senate had already ratified.

The current so-called crisis is weak tea at best.

There Goes the Neighborhood on October 7, 2013 at 5:15 PM

There Goes the Neighborhood on October 7, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Democrats had no problem with abandoning our allies in Southeast Asia, because they would rather be waterboarded than give the evil Richard Nixon “credit” for ending the Vietnam War. After all, he had the nerve to go after their Communist Pin-Up Boy, Alger Hiss. They never forgave him.

So they had absolutely no problem letting thousands of innocent people get murdered, as long as they “won” a political victory over the evil Republicans.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Oh please, get the MSM interested in all of this childish behavior and point it out. I know the MSM is worried about the Republicans winning anything, so they’ll keep quiet as long as they can, but their lack of reporting does display a certain amount of collusion and agreement with everything the administration is doing.

bflat879 on October 7, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Why do you suggest something that isn’t…but, duh.
If I run out of money it doesn’t mean I haven’t paid my mortgage bill.

verbaluce on October 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Federal monthly revenues: ~$250 billion

Debt service per month: ~$30 billion

We can afford to pay the ‘mortgage bill.’

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM

V/O/D-If you won’t let me increase my credit limit, I can’t pay my mortgage and credit cards.

Trustee/R. Yes, you can. We’ve had this discussion the last 5 years. You are spending too much money, you can’t keep borrowing forever.

V/O/D I don’t see why not.

Trustee/R Because you can’t pay it back. Every year you are borrowing more. The lenders can see you aren’t even trying to control your spending.You can pay your mortgage and your credit card, but you can’t provide all food and shelter for everyone over 65 and free college education to everyone in the world and free health care to everyone in the world. You need to make some choices.

V/O/D But I don’t want to.

Trustee/R. Could we at least limit providing food and shelter to those over 70.

V/O/D No

T/R Could we limit providing food and shelter to people over 67 with less than $1,000,000.

V/O/D No

T/R Can we limit free college education to people getting degrees that they could use to earn a living?

V/O/D No

T/R Could we limit health care to basics such as crucial vaccines and medicines and let people buy their own policies if they want coverage for infertility and abortion and sex changes?

V/O/D No

T/R Can wee stop giving PBS money=They make enough on their products to cover their expenses.

V/O/D No

T/R Can we close airports that only have flights to and from Washington?

V/O/D No

T/R Can we stop funding cowboy poetry?

V/O/D No. All of your requests are ridiculous and I won’t even discuss this further unless you raise my dredit limit to let me spend as much as I want for the next year.

T/R. We did that last year and you said you would cut back spending.

V/O/D I don’t have anything else I can cut. Give me as much money as I want or this discussion is over.

V/O

talkingpoints on October 7, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Oh please, get the MSM interested in all of this childish behavior and point it out. I know the MSM is worried about the Republicans winning anything, so they’ll keep quiet as long as they can, but their lack of reporting does display a certain amount of collusion and agreement with everything the administration is doing.

bflat879 on October 7, 2013 at 6:23 PM

The corrupt Democrat Media literally created O’bama. If he goes down, so do they. They would rather be waterboarded first.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 6:39 PM

The corrupt Democrat Media literally created O’bama. If he goes down, so do they. They would rather be waterboarded first.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Ooohhh, ooohhhh, oooohhh, pick me, pick me!!!!
Can I do the first waterboarding?????

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 7:22 PM

And they will pay politically of the American people feel they are in the wrong. But for now the process is working exactly as designed

Where does the Constitution grant the House sole authority in funding all federal policies and programs? I wasn’t aware that the Founding Fathers envisioned the annual budget process as the venue for repealing legislation that a minority faction is unable to pass through the Senate and executive branch. Perhaps you actually believe that because spending bills must originate in the House, that gives the House a path to undermine the democratic process… interesting.

When is the last time a political minority attempted to defund a federal program or policy

I don’t know, let me know the next time a minority does it. As a reminder, Republicans currently hold a 33-seat MAJORITY in the House.

It holds a majority in a single house of the legislature, while the Tea Party represents about 20% of the US voting population. That’s it. Talk about a small minority screwing over the majority with its self-righteous agenda.

You’re having an even worse day than usual here. Wonder why that is?

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Why are you so happy? Exceed your sales quota on eBay?

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 8:11 PM

It holds a majority in a single house of the legislature, while the Tea Party represents about 20% of the US voting population. That’s it. Talk about a small minority screwing over the majority with its self-righteous agenda.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Libtard Canadians are less than 1% of the US voting population, and yet they want to control this country.
Talk about a non-citizen minority screwing up the country with it’s communist agenda….

dentarthurdent on October 7, 2013 at 8:26 PM

The ultimate solution is to create a national park that runs along the US border … say 20 yards deep.

The NPS will then replace the border patrol.

J_Crater on October 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM


V/O/D No. All of your requests are ridiculous and I won’t even discuss this further unless you raise my dredit limit to let me spend as much as I want for the next year.

T/R. We did that last year and you said you would cut back spending.

V/O/D I don’t have anything else I can cut. Give me as much money as I want or this discussion is over.

V/O

talkingpoints on October 7, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Brilliant.

AesopFan on October 7, 2013 at 9:08 PM

You’re having an even worse day than usual here. Wonder why that is?

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Why are you so happy? Exceed your sales quota on eBay?

brayam on October 7, 2013 at 8:11 PM

eBay? Haven’t been there for years, but for your benefit I’ll put up my DVD copy of “A Red Green Christmas” for sale. Say high to Bill for me!

Now, to answer your silly pout, the Democrats have refused to accept the results of popular elections lately in many places. Voter ID is The Law of The Land, and yet your other Cult Leader George Soros (who is now part-owner of Halliburton) is financing multi-state efforts to elect Democrat Activist Judges to overturn those election results.

Likewise, the voters of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts established by popular vote in an election that marriage was between a man and a woman; the Democrats simply got 3 Activist Judges to negate the results of a statewide election.

And don’t even get me started on Florida 2000…

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Perhaps you actually believe that because spending bills must originate in the House, that gives the House a path to undermine the democratic process…
 
bayam on October 7, 2013 at 8:11 PM

 
Ladies and gentlemen, all you need to know.
 
As an added bonus, this is also an extremely good example of how the 17th Amendment harmed our republic.

rogerb on October 7, 2013 at 9:50 PM

George Soros (who is now part-owner of Halliburton) is financing multi-state efforts to elect Democrat Activist State Secretaries of State and Judges to overturn those election results.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Fixed it for me.

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Unfortunately, the chamber is today held captive by the GOP nomination process and its Tea Party base, not the will of the people.

Which party passed Obamacare against ‘the will of the people’?

Which party controlled the both chambers of Congress?

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 4:57 PM

…now you’ve done it!….crickets

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 10:28 PM

The day will come when the House returns to Democrat hands, and I can only hope that the opposition party doesn’t continue this circus show in order to to cut back military spending or to defund whatever policies it disapproves of at the moment.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 3:53 PM

They already have. The Democrats own the Senate and the Presidency, and they determined to shut down the Government rather than have a CR which does not fund their favorite entitlement of the moment.

They passed that entitlement with not a single Republican vote.

At this point the gloves are almost off. The two things Boehner has to do to show they are really off is to start passing budget without the two thirds majority he has determined should be used. The House Democrats are standing in the way of each bill Boehner wants the House to vote on and pass.

The one I’m most interested in is the one which funds a return to work of the 1,100 employees of Nellis AFB — you know, the ones Dingy Harry cited as a reason for sitting on a bill passed by the House authorizing medical trials for a children’s cancer drug. Boehner should get that bill into Harry’s hands ASAP, so that Harry has no further reason to sit on the House bills in his possession. [I'd love to see the other Senator's faces as they realize that Harry's pork just went to the front of the line...]

unclesmrgol on October 8, 2013 at 1:26 AM

Spite house, how about slime house. This is Chicago slime infecting all government agencies. Washington needs a good house cleaning to remove the stench and the cleaning should not stop with elected officials and appointed staff.

Lois Lerner is not the only member of “career” staff that needs to be gone and preferably gone to jail rather than into retirement with a fat federal pension.

Nomas on October 8, 2013 at 7:00 AM

Where does the Constitution grant the House sole authority in funding all federal policies and programs?

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 8:11 PM

OK Mr. Canadian constitutional expert, you do know how a bill is passed under the United States constitution, correct?

NotCoach on October 8, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Perhaps you actually believe that because spending bills must originate in the House, that gives the House a path to undermine the democratic process… interesting.

bayam on October 7, 2013 at 8:11 PM

That doesn’t even make any sense. Originating spending bills in the House IS the democratic process. Otherwise, for what reason would that specific requirement exist? So stop acting like this is the first time the House ever tried to defund anything they didn’t like; that’s essentially the way the Vietnam War ended.

Pretty funny, your respect for and awe of the democratic process, when defending a law that was passed from a spending bill that was written in the Senate, then went through the House without a vote on the bill, and avoided conference committee through the promise of executive orders which have no standing to alter legislation.

the Tea Party represents about 20% of the US voting population.

Well, the people who voted on the spending measures that languished in the Senate represent about 50% of the voting population. So stop pretending like some small bloc of representatives is somehow undermining a bill that would get 350 votes or something.

The Schaef on October 8, 2013 at 9:48 AM

bayam, I’m getting a new croquet ball game.

Question: Would you be willing to lend your cranium to serve as the lead ball in a Hand/Foot Shot? You know…..the one where I put my foot on your head and and hit it as hard as I possibly can to make the ball in front move?

A really dense ball is best one to have to win the game. :)

avagreen on October 8, 2013 at 3:25 PM

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