Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on October 7, 2013 by Allahpundit

China and Japan ratcheted up pressure on the US to avoid an unprecedented US default on its debt as Democrats and Republicans continued their stand-off over the budget in the second week of a US government shutdown…

In its first official reaction to the US political stalemate over the budget and looming debt ceiling deadline later this month, Beijing said “the clock is ticking” and urged politicians in Washington to “ensure the safety of the Chinese investments”.

Zhu Guangyao, vice-finance minister, told a media briefing that China has made clear its unease over the political impasse in Washington. In Japan, the Ministry of Finance is very worried about the potential impact on currency markets, according to a senior official. A US default could cause investors to dump the US dollar, which would sharply push up the value of the yen.

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Speaker John Boehner may be trying to finalize a plan to raise the debt limit, but House conservatives are already skeptical of his efforts. In interviews, several of them tell me they’re unlikely to support any deal that may emerge.

“They may try to throw the kitchen sink at the debt limit, but I don’t think our conference will be amenable for settling for a collection of things after we’ve fought so hard,” says Representative Scott Garrett (R., N.J.). “If it doesn’t have a full delay or defund of Obamacare, I know I and many others will not be able to support whatever the leadership proposes. If it’s just a repeal of the medical-device tax, or chained CPI, that won’t be enough.”

Representative Paul Broun (R., Ga.) agrees, and says Boehner risks an internal rebellion if he decides to broker a compromise. “America is going to be destroyed by Obamacare, so whatever deal is put together must at least reschedule the implementation of Obamacare,” he says.

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Not only do some conservatives say Oct. 17 is an artificial deadline—”Nobody thinks we’re going to default on Oct. 17th,” said Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan.—but they also are attempting to narrowly define what would constitute default.

In interviews with more than a dozen GOP lawmakers, the Republicans rejected the notion that Washington could default on its debt unless a borrowing increase is approved before Oct. 17. For the United States to actually default, these Republicans argue, the Treasury Department would have to stop paying interest on its debts—something GOP lawmakers claim is inconceivable…

“We’re not going to default; there is no default,” said Rep. Mick Mulvaney, R-S.C. “There’s an [Office of Management and Budget] directive from the 1980s, the last time we got fairly close to not raising the debt ceiling, that clearly lays out the process by which the Treasury secretary prioritizes interest payments. Tim Geithner understood that, because the last weekend in July of 2011 he was in New York City telling the primary dealers that we were not going to default on our debt.”

Mulvaney even went so far as to say Obama and White House officials have been dishonest when warning of default: “If the president wants to lie to the public, I can’t stop him.”

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Remember, the last time you and I wanted the GOP to fight on the debt ceiling, the attacks from our own side were particularly vicious…

It is what Republican leaders want. They are hoping for us to be recalcitrant and angry over the debt ceiling increase. They want to appear to shove us off by raising it. They know they can’t fight us on Obamacare because the public hates Obamacare. But they know they can on the debt ceiling because of the specter of default.

So what should we do? I think somebody like Steve Scalise, who chairs the Republican Study Committee, needs to propose a short-term debt limit for a few weeks and attach to it the Full Faith and Credit Act that ensures the Treasury Department prioritizes interest payments in the event the debt limit is ever not increased. This would buy us some time to finish the fight to defund Obamacare and set us up well to fight the next long-term debt limit increase to the death by removing some of the President’s scare tactics. How do Republican Leaders not adopt and push such a proposal? How does Obama not accept it without looking completely unreasonable?

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David Walker, the former Comptroller General under President Bill Clinton, who also served under President George W. Bush, says emphatically that the United States should not violate the debt ceiling limit, but he agrees with Republicans that the United States could and should prioritize making interest payments and bond redemptions ahead of other obligations. But, Walker says, the Treasury Department is either unable or unwilling to do that.

“In theory you could prioritize your payments. And in theory, if your accounting system were adequate, you could use whatever cash you have to be able to pay interest on the debt as a top priority,” Walker says. “The problem is that the federal government’s accounting systems are so bad that they don’t have enough transparency to be able to differentiate the payments.”

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President Obama’s top economic adviser today suggested that negotiating with Republicans over an increase to the nation’s debt limit could be more harmful to the U.S. economy than default itself.

“If you sanction through negotiation the legitimacy of somebody threatening default, then that is going to happen over and over again,” National Economic Council director Gene Sperling told ABC’s Jonathan Karl at a Politico Playbook breakfast this morning.

“So sanctioning negotiations with someone threatening default is not going to end the risk of default; it’s likely to increase the chances that we as a country eventually default. The only way for us to go forward is to all make clear the era of threatening default is over,” he added.

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Opinion about raising the debt limit was more evenly divided in July 2011, a few weeks before the last major showdown over the issue. At that time, 40% viewed a debt limit increase as absolutely essential in order to avoid a crisis, while nearly as many (39%) said it would not pose major problems.

Partisan differences over raising the debt limit are similar to two years ago: 62% of Democrats think it is absolutely essential to increase the debt limit, compared with 45% of independents and 36% of Republicans. Republicans and GOP leaners who do not agree with the Tea Party (40%) are much more likely than Tea Party Republicans (23%) to view a debt limit hike as absolutely essential.

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Senate Democrats are planning to start the process this week for a Senate vote on a clean debt limit increase, sources tell me – a move that could call the bluff of Republicans in both chambers and force them to take a stand on whether they will allow default and economic destruction if Dems don’t accept their unilateral demands.

The move has the backing of the White House, according to a source familiar with discussions…

If the Senate can pass a clean debt limit increase and send it to the lower chamber, then House Republicans would then presumably refuse to allow a vote on it. With Boehner now claiming a clean debt limit (or a clean CR) cannot pass the House, this would enable Dems to argue Boehner won’t even allow the will of the House to be tested on the debt limit, either, despite the threat of default.

This also raises another question: If Senate Republicans filibuster a debt ceiling hike, will Senate Dem leaders change the rules to allow it to pass by a simple majority, on the argument that so doing is imperative to save the U.S. economy from meltdown? Remember, the deal that averted the “nuclear option” this year left the current rules in place, but Dems reserved the right to act again if GOP obstructionism continued.

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White House spokesman Jay Carney said Monday that lifting the debt ceiling will be non-negotiable for as long as Barack Obama is president

“It will always be, as long as he’s president, President Obama’s position that that responsibility is not negotiable. That there’s not a game of trading for political priorities or agenda items that Republicans have not been able to achieve through legislation or the ballot box.”

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Representative Greg Walden of Oregon, the House GOP’s campaign chief, says whatever the leadership ultimately decides, it won’t be a clean CR or a clean extension of the debt limit. “I don’t think you could pass a clean CR or a clean debt ceiling,” he says. “But we need to sit down and talk with the Senate and the president and work through all of these issues.”

Sources close to Boehner echo Walden. In private, Boehner has told his allies that he won’t bring up a clean CR, and he’s hopeful that as the deadline nears, President Obama will deal. “There’s no way the president holds firm,” a House GOP insider predicts. “Once that crack opens, I don’t know how the debt limit will be addressed, but it won’t be by Republican capitulation.”

“Pretty much the same story,” cracks Representative Peter King of New York, when asked for an update. “Everything’s the same story.”

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Republicans GAIN in Generic Congressional Ballot.

From Rasmussen: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/top_stories/generic_congressional_ballot

Week Ended Sept 29th: Dems 42, Repubs 38
Week Ended Oct 6: Dems 40, Repubs 40

Um… I thought the Repubs were slated to take a beating in the generic congressional ballot. Not!

anotherJoe on October 7, 2013 at 10:43 PM

So while the government is shutdown,
can I stop paying taxes ?

burrata on October 7, 2013 at 10:44 PM

…I still don’t trust Bonehead!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM

‘If my Republican friends believe that increasing our debt by almost $800 billion today and more than $3 trillion over the last five years is the right thing to do, they should be upfront about it. They should explain why they think more debt is good for the economy.

How can the Republican majority in this Congress explain to their constituents that trillions of dollars in new debt is good for our economy? How can they explain that they think it’s fair to force our children, our grandchildren, our great grandchildren to finance this debt through higher taxes. That’s what it will have to be. Why is it right to increase our nation’s dependence on foreign creditors?

They should explain this. Maybe they can convince the public they’re right. I doubt it. Because most Americans know that increasing debt is the last thing we should be doing. After all, I repeat, the Baby Boomers are about to retire. Under the circumstances, any credible economist would tell you we should be reducing debt, not increasing it.Democrats won’t be making argument to supper this legalization, which will weaken our country. Weaken our county.’

- Senator Harry Reid, 2006

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM

That there’s not a game of trading for political priorities or agenda items that Republicans have not been able to achieve through legislation or the ballot box.

Oh. Oh, that’s rich.

John the Libertarian on October 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Remember when Obama was King and had both Houses of Congress? Then the people said, Hell no! Take away his checkbook in 2010?

John the Libertarian on October 7, 2013 at 10:47 PM

People need to get in the faces of these National Park Service thugs and get it on video. Call them out as brownshirts. Embarrass and humiliate them.

As soon as we get some viral video of the thugs beating on or arresting some elderly vets, Obama and the Dems are finished.

WisCon on October 7, 2013 at 10:48 PM

…I still don’t trust Bonehead!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Who do you trust less: Boehner, or Detroit’s bullpen?

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 10:50 PM

White House spokesman Jay Carney said Monday that lifting the debt ceiling will be non-negotiable for as long as Barack Obama is president…

What was Bark’s opinion when he was a senator and Dubya was preznit?

Libfree, you wanna take this one?

Bishop on October 7, 2013 at 10:51 PM

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=224935

Must read at the ticker.

Murphy9 on October 7, 2013 at 10:53 PM

As soon as we get some viral video of the thugs beating on or arresting some elderly vets, Obama and the Dems are finished.

WisCon on October 7, 2013 at 10:48 PM

I wish this were true. But remember the SEIU thugs who beat Kenneth Gladney, the Tea Partier who was selling Don’t Tread On Me buttons? Remember the union thug who bit off a Tea Partier’s finger?

John the Libertarian on October 7, 2013 at 10:53 PM

WisCon on October 7, 2013 at 10:48 PM

People need to ignore them, walk right past as if the PS guys are ghosts. If they turn you back, go get 100 friends and return. If they manage to turn that group back, get 1000 friends.

A million vets on the national mall to visit the war memorials; there isn’t a NPS cop in existence who is going to tackle that crowd.

Bishop on October 7, 2013 at 10:54 PM

My National park dude was pretty cool. “oh look, a squirrel” kind of guy.

Said he hated it all. Got him patroling parking lots and crappers in the Tucson Sector.

wolly4321 on October 7, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Breaking News: Shut The Fog Up, Noo Yawkers! (With Update)

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 10:46 PM

……heck…you had me going!… almost till the end of the piece!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Hey Hey Hey

Jackalope on October 7, 2013 at 10:56 PM

……heck…you had me going!… almost till the end of the piece!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 10:55 PM

hehehe

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Democrats aren’t at war with Republicans.

Democrats are at war with THEIR OWN STATEMENTS from just 7 years ago.

ITguy on October 7, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Ceilings eh, ……………Hopey is going to Shatter it!!!

canopfor on October 7, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Who do you trust less: Boehner, or Detroit’s bullpen?

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 10:50 PM

…lately…the batters!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Representative Paul Broun (R., Ga.) agrees.. “America is going to be destroyed by Obamacare.”

Exactly, and those that say not raising the debt limit will destroy America, you got to say, this is about stopping Obamacare, not the kitchen sink or grand bargain or chaining the CPI or whatever. No, if we are going to fiddle with the debt limit now, make it Obamacare related because other more general spending issues can be dealt with at another time. Ok, chain the defund and delay of Obamacare to the debt limit and the govt CR(s). If the Dems don’t like it, they can go fly a kite.

anotherJoe on October 7, 2013 at 10:59 PM

canopfor on October 7, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Hey buddy, got a link where I can catch Greta’s show tonight? I am all messed up with FNC’s new schedule…

OmahaConservative on October 7, 2013 at 11:02 PM

This is our last stand so to speak. Either we take down ObamaCare or it takes down us for good.

Totally OT – The Blacklist is my new favorite obsession. LOVE!

gophergirl on October 7, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Exactly

anotherJoe on October 7, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Meh, they said planes would fall out of the skies at sequester. They said the world would end at shutdown. I don’t believe any of this doomsday talk anymore.

John the Libertarian on October 7, 2013 at 11:03 PM

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 10:58 PM

By the way, just wanted to check how your work situation was going.

Good I hope.

Barred on October 7, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Hey Hey Hey

Jackalope on October 7, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Bruce Channel – “Hey Baby”

How have you been?

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 11:04 PM

As soon as we get some viral video of the thugs beating on or arresting some elderly vets, Obama and the Dems are finished.

WisCon on October 7, 2013 at 10:48 PM

On the contrary, Demoncraps will proudly use such videos for their campaign ads and fundraising. Afterall, what better for their ” constituents” than Obamagoons beating up old white Christians in America ?

burrata on October 7, 2013 at 11:05 PM

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=224935

Must read at the ticker.

Murphy9 on October 7, 2013 at 10:53 PM

….nice Murph…thanks!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Democrats aren’t at war with Republicans.

Democrats are at war with THEIR OWN STATEMENTS from just 7 years ago.

ITguy on October 7, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Dumbocrats, like the honey badger, don’t care…

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Mulvaney even went so far as to say Obama and White House officials have been dishonest when warning of default: “If the president wants to lie to the public, I can’t stop him.”

Does a bear crap in the woods?

VorDaj on October 7, 2013 at 11:08 PM

By the way, just wanted to check how your work situation was going.

Good I hope.

Barred on October 7, 2013 at 11:03 PM

…I’m still going at it…thanks!
…I thought I was done!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 11:09 PM

…lately…the batters!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I don’t believe they’re getting by the A’s…

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Regarding the debt ceiling, I would support leaving it unchanged unless Obamacare is defunded, bolstering the present fight, but I would also support a short-term extension of the debt ceiling to put it off to another day so that we can concentrate on the present strategy to defund Obamacare and then have a separate debt limit fight a few months from now.

What I don’t support are those who want to use the debt ceiling not to stop Obamacare but rather to push for fake spending cuts that are nothing more than a theoretical reduction in the increase in spending. I suspect that the people pushing this strategy are many of the same people who’ve been attacking Ted Cruz and Mike Lee. I think they’ll try to arrange a comprehensive negotiation dealing with both issues, Obamacare and fake spending cuts, and defunding Obamacare will take a back seat. It’s slight of hand.

I’m not at all interested in any more fake spending cuts like the ’11 CR fight, I want to stop Obamacare. Period. I will never submit to Obamacare nor pay any fines, and I would prefer to be able to do so without legal or financial repercussions.

FloatingRock on October 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Yeah, I saw a comment elsewhere that suggested something to the effect that #ObamaCare should really be named #HoneyBadgerDon’tCare… Obama don’t give a sh1t!

ITguy on October 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Bruce Channel – “Hey Baby”

How have you been?

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 11:04 PM

I’ve been well, thank you. Enough post-pardum to where I feel human again…on the job hunt and getting out into society again. And the Blackhawks are back :) How are you?

Jackalope on October 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM

People need to get in the faces of these National Park Service thugs and get it on video. Call them out as brownshirts. Embarrass and humiliate them.

As soon as we get some viral video of the thugs beating on or arresting some elderly vets, Obama and the Dems are finished.

WisCon on October 7, 2013 at 10:48 PM

The Parkstapo.

VorDaj on October 7, 2013 at 11:12 PM

And Now… A Public Service Message From the Democrat Party on Behalf of the Obama administration:

Everybody Hurts Sometimes… some more than others…and with Obamacare… we guarantee it.

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:13 PM

China and Japan ratcheted up pressure on the US to avoid an unprecedented US default on its debt

From Wikipedia:

The Big Lie is a propaganda technique. The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so “colossal” that no one would believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”

ShainS on October 7, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Who do you trust less: Boehner, or Detroit’s bullpen?

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 10:50 PM

All six runs today were given up by Sanchez (the starter). Detroit’s bullpen has yielded one run in three games against Oakland.

bw222 on October 7, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Adherents to the House of Obama are fundamentally and unalterably opposed to the survival of the Constitution of the United States, and most particularly it’s Bill of Rights. The House of Obama is based on the teachings of Karl Marx, Benito Mussolini, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, the Queen of Hearts and Joe Isuzu. The House of Obama commands that democrats carry out mendacity, calumny and psychosis indefinitely against all opponents until the House of the Constitution, which is alien to The House of Obama, is not tolerated, and all Americans are brought under the complete domination of the House of Obama, where Obamariah is strictly enforced.

VorDaj on October 7, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Because you….

Can’t Turn Back The Years the Affordable Care Act is set up to make sure that you pay a penalty for that…

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:18 PM

“The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to
be most normal. “Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our
mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives,
that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does.”
They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are
normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to
that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of
abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully
human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.”
― Aldous Huxley , Brave New World Revisited

Murphy9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:18 PM

canopfor on October 7, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Hey buddy, got a link where I can catch Greta’s show tonight? I am all messed up with FNC’s new schedule…

OmahaConservative on October 7, 2013 at 11:02 PM

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canopfor on October 7, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Arrested veterans in the back of a police car because they would not leave the war memorial http://instagram.com/p/fMKBmWhmvs/

Is #PresidentStompyFoot responsible?

UnderstandingisPower on October 7, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Canadian Muslims Protest Term “Honor Killing” As Racist…

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Resist We Much:

Ugh, the ReT*rded Lefty Canadians,…NUTS:0

canopfor on October 7, 2013 at 11:21 PM

“…most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of
revolution.”
― Aldous Huxley , Brave New World

Murphy9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:21 PM

“The problem is that the federal government’s accounting systems are so bad that they don’t have enough transparency to be able to differentiate the payments.”

And we’re just finding out about this now?!! What, exactly have they been doing all this time to earn their pay? Man, it is really getting close to “pitchforks-and-torches” time…

bofh on October 7, 2013 at 11:21 PM

So all you American citizens are just going to have to suck it up… It’s Just The Way It Is even if you never wanted it to begin with … we know what’s best for you…

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Jackie, you know Fugazi?

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:22 PM

A US default could cause investors to dump the US dollar,

And Hussein will have a problem with that why exactly ?
Isn’t that exactly what marxists have been working at ,
both within and outside the USA ?

burrata on October 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM

@BarackObama stop blockading American war memorials, you pathetic punkass bitch.—David Burge (@iowahawk

Yep.. right on.

wolly4321 on October 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM

“ensure the safety of the Chinese investments”.

But, since EVERYTHING I buy that is made in China only lasts 1-2 years MAX…….

WryTrvllr on October 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Dangerous looking bunch of guys there…

Actually, look closely folks, because that is what the beginning of the end of America looks like.

bofh on October 7, 2013 at 11:25 PM

“Human beings act in a great variety of irrational ways, but all of them seem to be
capable, if given a fair chance, of making a reasonable choice in the light of available
evidence. Democratic institutions can be made to work only if all concerned do their
best to impart knowledge and to encourage rationality. But today, in the world’s most
powerful democracy, the politicians and the propagandists prefer to make nonsense of
democratic procedures by appealing almost exclusively to the ignorance and
irrationality of the electors.”

― Aldous Huxley , Brave New World Revisited

Murphy9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Ugh, the ReT*rded Lefty Canadians,…NUTS:0

canopfor on October 7, 2013 at 11:21 PM

‘Man-made household violence’?

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 11:26 PM

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Good evening, B9. :)

You mean like this Waiting Room ?

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:26 PM

China and Japan ratcheted up pressure on the US to avoid an unprecedented US default on its debt
======================================

Maybe’s the ChiComms got the Norks to harass the US Navy!!

Jus say’n, ..(sarc)
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North Korean Army issues ‘emergency order from its supreme command’ to ‘promptly launch operations any time’ amid presence of US aircraft carrier – @W7VOA

1 hour ago from twitter.com/W7VOA by editor
===============================================

https://twitter.com/W7VOA

canopfor on October 7, 2013 at 11:27 PM

@BarackObama stop blockading American war memorials, you pathetic punkass b!tch.—David Burge (@iowahawk

Yep,,

wolly4321 on October 7, 2013 at 11:27 PM

You mean like this Waiting Room ?

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:26 PM

You know what is really pitiful about that?

The UK, Canada, etc, have long waiting lists…but they are, at least, actually delivering some healthcare. Error404Care already has waiting lists and it has delivered nothing.

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 11:28 PM

I don’t believe they’re getting by the A’s…

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM

…I believe you’re right!…I’ll be going to the game for cheap…tomorrow!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 11:28 PM

So… you might want to Save A Prayer for the elderly, the disabled.. and the poor… under Obamacare…

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Totally OT – The Blacklist is my new favorite obsession. LOVE!

gophergirl on October 7, 2013 at 11:02 PM

New favorite of mine. I don’t watch much tv, but this is on permanent DVR.

KCB on October 7, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Good evening, B9. :)

You mean like this Waiting Room ?

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:26 PM

HA! You get a Gold star!!
After CMS updates today..triggered that song after years to
play in my head. Its today’s Chaka Kahn. lol

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Good evening, RWM. :)

Yes.. but given the death panels… and QARY… maybe that’s a blessing.

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:30 PM

H.J.RES.47
Latest Title: Increasing the statutory limit on the public debt.
Sponsor: No Sponsor (introduced 5/2/2005)
Related Bills: H.CON.RES.95
Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 109-182
SUMMARY AS OF:
3/20/2006–Public Law.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HJ00047:@@@L&summ2=m&

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00054

Senate Vote Date: March 16, 2006, 11:17 AM
NAYs —48 ALL DEMOCRATS
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Burns (R-MT)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Ensign (R-NV)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)

ITguy on October 7, 2013 at 11:31 PM

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:29 PM

A very good band and tunes with directed meaning. :)

I hope you’re well tonight.:)

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:32 PM

MeanWhile,..at the APEC, ….Puty Strikes Again:

Default Threat Generates Fear Around Globe
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: October 7, 2013
**************************

One of the attendees, President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia,

provided a possibly sardonic statement

of sympathy for Mr. Obama.

“We see what is happening in U.S. domestic politics and this is not an easy situation,” Mr. Putin said, adding, “If I was in his situation, I would not come, either.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/08/us/politics/default-threat-makes-impasse-in-washington-a-global-fear.html?hp&_r=1&
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canopfor on October 7, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Regarding the debt ceiling, I would support leaving it unchanged unless Obamacare is defunded, bolstering the present fight, but I would also support a short-term extension of the debt ceiling to put it off to another day so that we can concentrate on the present strategy to defund Obamacare and then have a separate debt limit fight a few months from now.

FloatingRock on October 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Sounds good. And like Eric Ericson of redstate puts it:

So what should we do? I think somebody like Steve Scalise, who chairs the Republican Study Committee, needs to propose a short-term debt limit for a few weeks and attach to it the Full Faith and Credit Act that ensures the Treasury Department prioritizes interest payments in the event the debt limit is ever not increased. This would buy us some time to finish the fight to defund Obamacare.

http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/07/obamacare-or-the-debt-ceiling/

anotherJoe on October 7, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Hey buddy, got a link where I can catch Greta’s show tonight? I am all messed up with FNC’s new schedule…

OmahaConservative on October 7, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Wow OC, this just jarred my memory…I remember last year I talked to you about letting you access my friend’s Fox News stream, and I never got back you, for which I apologize.

My plan ended up not working out – the different methods I was using to stream kept freezing up, and as I didn’t have hands-on access to her computer, I couldn’t do as much as I wanted to isolate the problem (I think both her old router and a file corruption were to blame.) I found the situation to be hopeless, and gave up before Christmas.

It would have been great, too – I signed up for Ustream, and would have shared it with everyone at HA.

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 11:34 PM

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:32 PM

:]
Takes me back to High School.
Funny..1st thing that came to mind today
with the ‘CMS waiting rooms’
Thx for the link..you nailed it with my clue.

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:34 PM

…without us… the progressive visionaries… you’d all just Come Undone…so it’s our duty to oversee you…

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:36 PM

CNN is going to have to up the Fear Graphics to help the Fear-O-Crats scare up some low-info voters too busy watching Kim and Kanye, LOL.

Shutdown? Is that some new club, or something?

Punchenko on October 7, 2013 at 11:36 PM

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:34 PM

My pleasure…thanks for the clue. :) We work well together. :)

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:36 PM

My Grandfather is 93, and is starting to drool a bit. But he has an M1 Garand, and he split New Guinea in half. Back when.

He said he got to where he liked killing Japanese. Reminded him of squirrel hunting. (his words)

I pity the park service that tells him no.

wolly4321 on October 7, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Mulvaney even went so far as to say Obama and White House officials have been dishonest when warning of default: “If the president wants to lie to the public, I can’t stop him.”

Yes! My Representative is calling the dog eater a liar. I love it!

SouthernGent on October 7, 2013 at 11:37 PM

…I still don’t trust Bonehead!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM

It looks like the situation has moved beyond the personal volition of the weeper, fortunately.

Murphy9 on October 7, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Excellent post.

wolfsDad on October 7, 2013 at 11:37 PM

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Love that one~~

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:37 PM

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:37 PM

It’s a great tune… I really like it, too… so I decided to use if for my little message. ;)

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 11:34 PM

LOL! I had forgotten all about that. I can get the livestream, but I want shows on femand online…

OmahaConservative on October 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM

B9….:-)

KCB on October 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM

OmahaConservative on October 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Demand

OmahaConservative on October 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM

…because without our guidance this would be just an Ordinary World

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Hey, Jackie & williamg!

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 11:40 PM

So… you might want to Save A Prayer for the elderly, the disabled.. and the poor… under Obamacare…

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:29 PM

I understand why Burt Bacharach Fell In Love With Her!!…

williamg on October 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM

This is our last stand so to speak. Either we take down ObamaCare or it takes down us for good.

Totally OT – The Blacklist is my new favorite obsession. LOVE!

gophergirl on October 7, 2013 at 11:02 PM

How did things go for you at your job today?

PS nice pickup of Freeman! ROFL! :)

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM

It’s a great tune… I really like it, too… so I decided to use if for my little message. ;)

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM

I saw them a couple years back..had great seats and a blast.
You’re doing great with your tunes entwined within the messages.
^5

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM

‘Fake But Accurate’ Becomes ‘Accurate But Fake’?

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Resist We Much:

Check this one out,..Kerry/Puty:0
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Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew 7h

This REUTERS photo of Kerry and Putin talking in Bali is amazing. pic.twitter.com/AhVisVDPw9

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/387314585608265728/photo/1/large

canopfor on October 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 11:40 PM

You’ve done some excellent work today.I’ve been checking in from time to time.:)

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:43 PM

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM

What a great concert! I’m green with envy. :)

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:44 PM

canopfor on October 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Putin has the same expression as The Happy Buddha!

lolz

TYVVM, Jackie.

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Hey Ken! :D~

Smooooth

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Hey, Jackie & williamg!

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Sophie, dear!! The “Spite House” meme has to be spread to the Lips of Everyone Feeling The Waves Reverberating Off Of The Walls Of The Liberal Media Echo Chamber!!

williamg on October 7, 2013 at 11:46 PM

…so while you’re being forced to pay for our ‘vision’ and losing your home, your car, your job, and your family, suffering needlessly, and even dying before your time… for us…. its just Another Day In Paradise

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:48 PM

What a great concert! I’m green with envy. :)

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 11:44 PM

My sis got me tickets as a surprise.
When I was a kid..I was in love with them.
Simon plastered my walls. lol
Finally saw them at 39.
They were still sounded excellent!

bazil9 on October 7, 2013 at 11:48 PM

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