Peter King: No, I won’t sign the Democrats’ discharge petition to force a House vote on ending the shutdown

posted at 4:41 pm on October 7, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Corner, the exciting conclusion to Friday afternoon’s drama about the Dems trying to force Boehner to bring a clean CR to the floor. Pelosi sent a letter to him on Saturday signed by 195 House Democrats calling for a vote; that means all she’d need for a successful discharge petition is 22 House Republicans to sign too — and coincidentally, there are 22 House Republicans who’ve said things to the effect that a clean CR would be awfully nice right now. Peter King, whose incessant Cruz-bashing has made him the new de facto RINO Pope, is of course one of them. Surely he’ll sign Pelosi’s petition, then, right?

Nope. “It’s not going to go anywhere,” he says, and he’s right. Like I said Friday, it’s one thing to bash the Cruz wing and call for an end to the shutdown, it’s another to promise your vote to Nancy Pelosi. If you’re going to jump off that bridge, you want to make sure the other 21 Republicans who’ve called for a clean CR are prepared to jump with you. Otherwise, you’re risking a ferocious conservative backlash over a discharge petition that’ll ultimately fall short of the 217 it needs, which means you’ve risked everything for nothing. And remember — King already has some experience with seeing Great RINO Revolts fall flat. Beyond that, joining Pelosi to force an end to the shutdown on October 14th would destroy Boehner’s leverage in negotiating ahead of the debt-ceiling deadline on October 17th. If the RINOs signal that they’re willing to cross party lines to avoid a shutdown, Obama will feel more inclined to dig in on the debt limit. That puts Boehner in an exceptionally tough spot, trying to defend the debt-ceiling stalemate to the public as a deadlock between Republican and Democratic priorities when a critical mass of his caucus will have already joined with the Dems on the CR in the name of ending fiscal stalemates.

So, nope, no discharge petition. Even King RINO has lines he won’t cross.


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Now he’s a reagan conservative… king has been pushing to kill the tea party for awhile.

Karmashock on October 7, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Delusional.

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 4:45 PM

So, nope, no discharge petition. Even King RINO has lines he won’t cross.

Scumhags verbie and bayam to call the will of the people absurd, go figure.

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 4:45 PM

How many of the 22 will be up for election next year? How many can be primaried. Its frustrating that we have to waste so much time taking out both the Dem and Repub garbage.

neyney on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

LOL, no you’re not peter. If you’re a Reagan Republican, the president is too.

rightside on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

There’s gotta be a CBS sitcom that needs another Northeasterner father figure role filled?

Get lost, King.

Common Sense Floridian on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Peter King (R-Armagh) is a Rino douche bag.

1921 C DRUM on October 7, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Still don’t trust him

rbj on October 7, 2013 at 4:48 PM

“I don’t consider myself a moderate. I’m a Reagan conservative.”

Peter King may claim to be a Reagan conservative like Pelosi claims to be a catholic.

Reagan’s Eleventh Commandment

cozmo on October 7, 2013 at 4:48 PM

I still won’t vote for him for President……

Rovin on October 7, 2013 at 4:49 PM

He voted against the 1995/96 shutdowns that lead to those balanced budgets and so-called ‘surpluses’ that he takes credit for now.

He voted against Clinton’s impeachment saying that it was insane to impeach a POTUS for sexual peccadilloes because, after all, that’s what perjury and obstruction are.

I’d gladly exchange Pete King for Jonathan Ball, 3, and Tim Parry, 12, who were both killed by the terrorist organisation for which he raised funds.

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Hahaha! Reagan conservative?! Me thinks thou doest not know what a Reagan conservative is!

You just can’t make this stuff up.

csdeven on October 7, 2013 at 4:52 PM

“Like every other American, we’re all frustrated with what’s going on in D.C.,” he said. “You’ve got a House that’s only passed five appropriations bills, a Senate that hasn’t passed any. You’ve got a Senate that does one budget bill approximately every five years. That’s not leadership.”

Jindal places much of the blame for the ongoing government shutdown on President Obama for his refusal to come to the negotiating table over funding his health care law.

“Do I have a problem with the government shutting down? Absolutely,” Jindal said. “We don’t see leadership out of the White House. … He [Obama] has time to golf, he has time to negotiate with the Iranians, doesn’t have time to negotiate and talk to the Congressional leadership, doesn’t have time to find common ground. That’s what real leaders do.” ~ Bobby Jindal

Jindal said he’s not interested in Republican Fratricide, one Republican attacking another, or micromanaging his colleagues tactics.

Refreshing to hear the voice of reason.

thatsafactjack on October 7, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Yay!

We’re winning.

mjbrooks3 on October 7, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Yellow belly.

besser tot als rot on October 7, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Actually, it doesn’t matter in the least how King votes – he would ‘risk’ nothing by voting with democrats, and gain nothing by voting with Republicans, because he has lost everything already, including his mind. King spend 100% of his time attacking Ted Cruz and helping democrat destroy the Republican Party, as demonstrated by his website, which is completely dedicated to trashing Ted Cruz and his “good guy”.

King is nothing mouthpiece for the democrat party at this point – his votes, are meaningless.

Pork-Chop on October 7, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Would somebody please tell me again just who the h*** thought it was a good idea to elect zombie Bea Arthur to Congress?

M240H on October 7, 2013 at 4:53 PM

All talk, no action. What a coward. At least have the balls to back up your talk, you yellow-bellied pinko scum.

besser tot als rot on October 7, 2013 at 4:54 PM

At least King put his name by his comments, unlike many others of his kidney.

cbenoistd on October 7, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Sure, Peter.

Those electroshock treatments are working.

portlandon on October 7, 2013 at 4:57 PM

King is a queen.

BHO Jonestown on October 7, 2013 at 4:57 PM

At least King put his name by his comments, unlike many others of his kidney.

cbenoistd on October 7, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Yep. They are worse than yellow-bellied pinko scum.

besser tot als rot on October 7, 2013 at 4:57 PM

He levels his ray gun at every conservative he sees.

beatcanvas on October 7, 2013 at 4:58 PM

How many of the 22 will be up for election next year? How many can be primaried. Its frustrating that we have to waste so much time taking out both the Dem and Repub garbage.

neyney on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

All of them. It’s the House.

Jeff Weimer on October 7, 2013 at 4:59 PM

It was rhetorical and I forgot the sarc tag. I was making the point that its only because these 22 are in trouble in 2014 if they go in with the Dems that they haven’t already caved.

neyney on October 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Everybody does the math: there are enough votes to end the shut down.

Boehenenrer: There aren’t enough votes. Trust me.

42 times he allows a pointless vote on the ACA to get to the floor and get crushed.

Boehenenr: Well, obviously this should get voted on.

What a jackass.

Dave Rywall on October 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM

“I don’t consider myself a moderate. I’m a Reagan conservative.”

So a liberal?

mythicknight on October 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM

You know, congessmen like Peter King would be much more effective if they stopped trying to talk with their foot in their mouth and their head up their wazoo.

Lonetown on October 7, 2013 at 5:10 PM

If there ever existed a self-centered man without principle (John McCain not-with-standing) this morally flexible imitation of character and statesmanship is it.

Don L on October 7, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Can someone give this guy a bottle of Jameson’s and
sit him down in the well of House Chamber??

ToddPA on October 7, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Maybe I missed something in the past few days, but it could be a win win for conservatives if this discharge goes through successfully;

Rino’s get further exposed.

Boehner gets replaced in 2014 with a conservative more aligned with the Ted Cruz Faction. Trey Goudy would be a good start.

Guaranteed spending reductions of 1% every 90 days until a budget is passed. Heck, you could get to a balanced budget in a couple years similar to the Mac Penny Plan. (Provided Harry Reid couldn’t somehow subvert it, and Paul Ryan could be persuaded to not bring up a budget). The sequester was the best deal the GOP has had in 5 years. A rolling 1%/90 day spending cut would be light years better than the sequester.

Let me know if I missed some procedural snafu.

can_con on October 7, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Stopped clock, Peter King – exactly one moment required.

Steve Eggleston on October 7, 2013 at 5:12 PM

As an aside, I think Special Ed is ready to blow a gasket live on air. Funniest stuff I have heard in ages.

can_con on October 7, 2013 at 5:12 PM

“The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.”

Milton Friedman

Good on ya, Peter. I support you on this very narrow issue of voting on Pelosi’s CR which will continue to fund the disastrous and stifling Obamacare health control policies.

Dusty on October 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Are there enough votes in the house to bring this shutdown to an end? If the cr were allowed to come to the floor to an up or down vote, would it pass?

Remember that phrase? Up or down vote. Why not?

;)

Genuine on October 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Boehenenr: Well, obviously this should get voted on.

What a jackass.

Dave Rywall on October 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM

On Saturday, the House UNANIMOUSLY voted to give back pay to furloughed Federal workers. The Senate was supposed to vote on the bill that afternoon, but then Harry Reid shut that whole thing down and adjourned the Senate.

The thing about the backpay bill is that it puts Harry Reid and Senate Democrats in a tricky situation. If even Nancy Pelosi was willing to vote for a bill to pay the workers, how can Harry not permit the Senate to vote on it?

Shoe. Other foot. Some assembly required.

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 5:15 PM

How many of the 22 will be up for election next year? How many can be primaried. Its frustrating that we have to waste so much time taking out both the Dem and Repub garbage.

neyney on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Trash in, trash out. The name matters not in the least….

Don L on October 7, 2013 at 5:16 PM

[Genuine on October 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM]

I’d be for it if amendments were allowed so as to make it a better CR.

Remember those phrases? Bipartisanship. Making things work. Why not?

;)

Dusty on October 7, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Why do we keep talking about CRs?

CRs are a cop-out.

Want to impress me? Submit and vote on House appropriations and spending bills……like you’re supposed to do.

BobMbx on October 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM

The trolls are really getting sweaty and shaky over the very thought of their gubmint junk supply being shut off.

Junkies.

CurtZHP on October 7, 2013 at 5:28 PM

How many can be primaried. Its frustrating that we have to waste so much time taking out both the Dem and Repub garbage.

neyney on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

..look at it this way: it’s what military folks call a “Target Rich Environment”.

The War Planner on October 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM

That screencap: The face of halitosis.

CurtZHP on October 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Which means he will vote for the clean CR and debt ceiling hike that Boehner brings to the floor, making Pelosi’s discharge petition moot.

Next!

Mr. Arkadin on October 7, 2013 at 5:31 PM

How many of the 22 will be up for election next year? How many can be primaried. Its frustrating that we have to waste so much time taking out both the Dem and Repub garbage.

neyney on October 7, 2013 at 4:46 PM

um, all 22 are up for election next year. they are reps, they run every 2 years.

chasdal on October 7, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Everybody does the math: there are enough votes to end the shut down.

Boehenenrer: There aren’t enough votes. Trust me.

42 times he allows a pointless vote on the ACA to get to the floor and get crushed.

Boehenenr: Well, obviously this should get voted on.

What a jackass.

Dave Rywall on October 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM

it’s good to be the king. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

chasdal on October 7, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Reagan conservative?
Not according to this. The Congressman skews left.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/peter_king/400219

diogenes on October 7, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Is this King’s red line..?

d1carter on October 7, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Boehenenr: Well, obviously this should get voted on.

What a jackass.

Dave Rywall on October 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM

On Saturday, the House UNANIMOUSLY voted to give back pay to furloughed Federal workers. The Senate was supposed to vote on the bill that afternoon, but then Harry Reid shut that whole thing down and adjourned the Senate.

The thing about the backpay bill is that it puts Harry Reid and Senate Democrats in a tricky situation. If even Nancy Pelosi was willing to vote for a bill to pay the workers, how can Harry not permit the Senate to vote on it?

Shoe. Other foot. Some assembly required.

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Now there you go again RWM, confusing these poor people with facts.

DDay on October 7, 2013 at 5:46 PM

King is seeing the same internal polls that the WH is seeing that suddenly has them open to negotiation and Reid holding his f*cking tongue a bit more.

Believe me, if what he was seeing told King that it served him better to align with Pelosi, he wouldn’t hesitate.

Midas on October 7, 2013 at 5:48 PM

After Obamacare Rollout Disaster, NPR Tells Its Reporters To Stop Using Term “Obamacare” So Much…

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 5:26 PM

This also speaks volumes; if the roll-out was going wonderfully, they’d be pushing reporters to use the term *more*.

F*cking ‘journalists’.

Midas on October 7, 2013 at 5:50 PM

King sees the world pass him by and he does not like becomming a spectator. McCain has the same problem. For both, this has been one long year during which their grand plans for gun grabbing, amnesty, and war in Syria all went down in flames.

Seeing them both trying to destroy their new opponents, who are all Republicans, is just a small surprise.

Freddy on October 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM

“The British government is a murder machine,” King said. He described the IRA, which mastered the car bomb as an instrument of urban terror, as a “legitimate force.” And he compared Gerry Adams, the leader of Sinn Fein, the IRA’s political wing, to George Washington.”

This is Peter King.

DDay on October 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Are there enough votes in the house to bring this shutdown to an end? If the cr were allowed to come to the floor to an up or down vote, would it pass?

Remember that phrase? Up or down vote. Why not?

;)

Genuine on October 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Up or down. In the Senate – on the House bill. Why not?

besser tot als rot on October 7, 2013 at 5:55 PM

So, nope, no discharge petition. Even King RINO has lines he won’t cross.

Yup. The discharge petition is dead in the water, so it’s time for Obama to negotiate, and the individual mandate to go the way of the dodo.

Stoic Patriot on October 7, 2013 at 5:57 PM

“I don’t consider myself a moderate. I’m a Reagan conservative.”

For which all I can do is blow the whistle, drop my decidedly not-pink flag and calll a foul. Peter King, you are neither a moderate nor are you a reagan conservative. You’re a liberal blowhard more apt to sell out the GOP than the Dems. Your attacks on Cruz make you not a moderate. And Reagan would never attack a fellow Republican behind his back in public the way you did.

Give Pelosi a kiss for all of us that despise you these days.

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Yup. The discharge petition is dead in the water, so it’s time for Obama to negotiate, and the individual mandate to go the way of the dodo.

Stoic Patriot on October 7, 2013 at 5:57 PM

The lazy stupid President doesn’t admit defeat that easily or graciously. More drama ahead before that would be the outcome.

Obama has laid down a very distinct red line. Do exactly what I demand about the budget and debt ceiling and I will consider your concerns. In other words, get rid of all your leverage before I ever talk to you again.

Since the bastard can’t launch cruise missiles at the Capitol, I’m guessing we are in for a very serious temper tantrum, a few weeks of sulking, and then maybe some sort of reasonable approach to governing from the filthy coward in the White House.

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 6:05 PM

So King is a Reagan conservative? Does anyone think that Reagan would have lambasted Cruz like King did? I think not.

King is a McCain/Grahamesty liberal RINO.

cajunpatriot on October 7, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Reagan conservative!

Horse squeeze Peter.

You’re toast next year.

Mr. Arrogant on October 7, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Only a politician from NY can say that with a straight face.

RdLake on October 7, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Genuine, knowing that $95 will barely cover a routine doctor visit and that hospitals will still be required by law to provide care regardless of insurance coverage or ability to pay, do you think Obamacare will do anything to change the free rider problem?
 
rogerb on October 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM

 
Well it’ll do more to address it than simply scrapping the whole thing and going back to the old system where it was a huge problem driving up health care costs for everyone exorbitantly…
 
Genuine on October 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM

 

That’s a faith based position. I’m not interested in your religion.
 
Specifics, please.
 
If a person who couldn’t afford or didn’t want insurance in “the old system where it was a huge problem driving up health care costs for everyone exorbitantly” can continue with only a 1% fine/tax and still maintain exactly the same level of care (and expense), how does Obamacare change that?
 
rogerb on October 7, 2013 at 1:40 PM

 
Remember that phrase?

rogerb on October 7, 2013 at 6:30 PM

‘If my Republican friends believe that increasing our debt by almost $800 billion today and more than $3 trillion over the last five years is the right thing to do, they should be upfront about it. They should explain why they think more debt is good for the economy.

How can the Republican majority in this Congress explain to their constituents that trillions of dollars in new debt is good for our economy? How can they explain that they think it’s fair to force our children, our grandchildren, our great grandchildren to finance this debt through higher taxes. That’s what it will have to be. Why is it right to increase our nation’s dependence on foreign creditors?

They should explain this. Maybe they can convince the public they’re right. I doubt it. Because most Americans know that increasing debt is the last thing we should be doing. After all, I repeat, the Baby Boomers are about to retire. Under the circumstances, any credible economist would tell you we should be reducing debt, not increasing it.Democrats won’t be making argument to supper this legalization, which will weaken our country. Weaken our county.’

- Senator Harry Reid, 2006

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 6:32 PM

What a jackass.

Dave Rywall on October 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Peter, is that you?

trigon on October 7, 2013 at 6:32 PM

He got a bad Tea leaf reader…everybody knows that the Tea Party is a small “fringe group” (Obama, Pelosi,Reid and McCain said so).

I love the smell of burning boots in the morning…it smells like victory.

teejk on October 7, 2013 at 6:43 PM

So king is ONLY 99.9999999% RINO TRAITOR.
WOW – who knew?

TeaPartyNation on October 7, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Puck Feter King

xblade on October 7, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Wasn’t he for it before he was against it? I’m so confused.

Kissmygrits on October 7, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Peter, Douche Bag says what?

Tbone McGraw on October 7, 2013 at 7:21 PM

can_con brings up a good point:

Guaranteed spending reductions of 1% every 90 days until a budget is passed. Heck, you could get to a balanced budget in a couple years similar to the Mac Penny Plan. (Provided Harry Reid couldn’t somehow subvert it, and Paul Ryan could be persuaded to not bring up a budget). The sequester was the best deal the GOP has had in 5 years. A rolling 1%/90 day spending cut would be light years better than the sequester.

If the Tea Party block of House Republicans wanted to play brilliant politics, they would all suddenly jump on Pelosi’s discharge petition and put it over the top, while trumpeting the fact that it will force 4% annual reductions in federal spending indefinitely, thus leading to a much smaller government and budget surpluses in a relatively short time.

Then watch the consternation in the ranks of Democrats as some of them now have to vote against the new CR which their own discharge petition had promoted. If enough Republicans vote for it, probably along with at least some remaining Democrats, then it goes to the Senate. Will the Senate dare reject it when it was initiated by the House Democrats? If Harry Reid kills it, then that places the shutdown blame solely on him and Senate Democrats.

And if the Senate also passes it, how could Obama possibly veto such a bipartisan measure? If he did, then 100% of the blame would land on him.

Bottom line: Either the Republicans win passage of a measure which will rapidly squeeze down the federal government, or else Democrats in the House and Senate and White House have to desperately flay around for an explanation as to why they wouldn’t take “Yes” for an answer.

dpwiener on October 7, 2013 at 8:28 PM

The hell you are. Do go away mad, just GO AWAY!

Winebabe on October 7, 2013 at 11:10 PM