Lew: Our metric for last week wasn’t how many people could successfully sign up for ObamaCare, or something

posted at 12:41 pm on October 7, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

A facepalm-worthy segment of highly-rehearsed Obama-administration blather that quickly went awry and turned into some hyper-political squirming from Fox News Sunday; Chris Wallace grilled Secretary of the Treasury Jack Lew on the administration’s and the president’s maladroit attempt to nudge markets into a state of unease over the trajectory of the debt-ceiling fight, but the subject eventually turned to the great whiff that was the grand opening of ObamaCare last week, via RCP:

JACK LEW, SECRETARY OF TREASURY: You know, Chris, the — I actually think that is not what’s happened this week. What happened this week is we saw seven million people rush to go onto the Web page to find out what are their choices in this new marketplace to buy affordable health care. … How many signed up?

LEW: — I — I don’t have the exact number. But the question isn’t –

WALLACE: Do you not know how many people have signed up, which should seem to indicate another major software glitch? Or is it that the number is embarrassingly small?

LEW: Chris, I — our metric for this week was could people get online, get the information they need… They have been getting that information. We are confident that they’re going to make the decision as we expected. They have six months to make the decision. … The important issue here is that millions of Americans want to get affordable health care. They came online. They’re getting the information. …

WALLACE: They just can’t sign up for it at this point?

LEW: Well, I think they are going to be signing up.

LEW: They have six months to sign up.

WALLACE: But technically, they can’t.

The encouragingly “high volume of traffic” that has ostensibly been gumming up their servers has been the administration’s talking point of choice over the past week, but it was almost immediately apparent that the glitches people have been encountering in attempting to sign up are a far cry from mere traffic problems and have a lot more to do with some hugely flawed and obviously hasty programming decisions. Who knows how long the administration will take to get their act together and fully implement the smooth and easy signup process of their fanciful promises, but once again: High interest in ObamaCare is not necessarily a good thing if the majority of the “millions of Americans” that “want to get to affordable health care” checking out the system so far are the ones most likely to have a high interest, i.e., older and sicker people with many and expensive health care needs. Without enough counterbalancing interest from young, healthy, and relatively inexpensive participants, ObamaCare could get quickly bogged down in the dreaded death spiral of costly enrollees when it goes into effect in January.


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I signed up for the Consolidated Affordable Care Act using the Chad method. I went and sorta looked, then decided what I’d do if I were to do anything, then I didn’t do anything, but thought good thoughts.

I think that means I get healthcare without paying, now.

Right?

Wino on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Why the hell is the Treasury Sec talking about medical insurance websites?

forest on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Yet another Wino-Bishop moment on Hotair.

Wino on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Lolz.

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Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 12:45 PM

I don’t suppose there is a button on the page at the enrollment site that says, thanks, but too expensive for me…
Would love to know how many have gotten their quotes, then decided to pass. That is the key metric.

redshirt on October 7, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Lets not make this a 3rd world experience.

Gatsu on October 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Another red line.

RovesChins on October 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Why the hell is the Treasury Sec talking about medical insurance websites? forest on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

POTUS is opining on what the Redskins’ name oughta not be, so…

Akzed on October 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM

The performance of this man yesterday on Fox was something
to behold…..Welcome to the World of Delusion.

He sums up this entire Administration…facts, and situations
are what we SAY THEY ARE.

ToddPA on October 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Why the hell is the Treasury Sec talking about medical insurance websites?

forest on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

because rock beats scissors,

chasdal on October 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM

F’ing lying liars. That’s all they know.

chewmeister on October 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Most incompetent potentates, evah!

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Why the hell is the Treasury Sec talking about medical insurance websites?

forest on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

The IRS is, as always, the muscle behind the effort.

blammm on October 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Their measure for success was for website hits.

What a bunch of hacks.

portlandon on October 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Treasury Sec Lew also said that, “People had not updated their software, and that is why the website went down,”….

Boggles the mind doesn’t it?

Just Gobsmacked that this man is our Sec of the Treasury????

Folks! Please remember to Update your Obamacare Access Software…
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ‘K folks?!!

Scrumpy on October 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Our Feral Government hard at work.

ghostwalker1 on October 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM

The question I would have, is if the public couldn’t get on to sign up now because of the high traffic, what’s going to happen in 6 months when the deadline is looming. It’s likely the crush will be even higher then.

If I can’t sign on to apply, does that mean automatic extension…?

JohnGalt23 on October 7, 2013 at 12:59 PM

It’s ALL your fault you stupid SHEEPLE!!

Scrumpy on October 7, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Why the hell is the Treasury Sec talking about medical insurance websites?

forest on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

The IRS is, as always, the muscle behind the effort.

blammm on October 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM

This. Because his goons are charged with enforcing this wonderful law. (If it’s so awesome, why does it require enforcement?)

CurtZHP on October 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM

I — our metric for this week was could people get online, get the information they need… They have been getting that information.

They have? I’ve not been able to get past the apology page.

mankai on October 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Why the hell is the Treasury Sec talking about medical insurance websites?

forest on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

The IRS is, as always, the muscle behind the effort.

blammm on October 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Oh right. Well they may be tough, but at least they’re fair, right?

forest on October 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

WALLACE: Do you not know how many people have signed up, which should seem to indicate another major software glitch? Or is it that the number is embarrassingly small?

LOL. Two zingers in two sentences. Valerie Jarrett must have been absolutely fuming in the WH Sunday Morning. Her problem, however, is that she doesn’t have a direct line to Wallace’s hand-held device as she does with Mika B. on Moaning Joe.

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Lew ran the Mortgage derivative business for Citigroup prior to the 2008 meltdown.

He’s a financial genious!

Do whatever he says!

Deafdog on October 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM

According to the Obama administration;

“You’re ALL asking the wrong questions”.

Now get back in line, put on these lab coats, get the kid props and smile for the cameras.

patman77 on October 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Lew is simply a stooge for the communists.

TX-96 on October 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

The question I would have, is if the public couldn’t get on to sign up now because of the high traffic, what’s going to happen in 6 months when the deadline is looming. It’s likely the crush will be even higher then.

If I can’t sign on to apply, does that mean automatic extension…?

JohnGalt23 on October 7, 2013 at 12:59 PM

It’s all that which makes me wonder if Boehner really ought to seek real tax and entitlement reform as a concession for passing a CR/debt ceiling hike, rather than concessions regarding Obamacare. It really does appear as if there is a good chance that Obamacare will fall apart and at the very least force a delay fairly soon anyway. If Boehner holds firm and plays smart could have negotiation win one victory and the technological/logistical boondoggle of this trainwreck just hand us the other victory down the line. At the very least, if the demands will be over Obamacare, might as well go for an actual repeal, rather than the delay we’ll likely have to get anyhow.

Note, of course, that by “real tax and entitlement reform” I mean something clearly defined and immediately enacted. Not that “promise to discuss brainstorming a future rough draft of a plan that may someday be allowed for a preliminary vote” that Costa showed the House GOP to be considering last week. Has to be real, or its just a gutless cave by a different name.

Gingotts on October 7, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Barky on TV whining and lying yet again.

chewmeister on October 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Lew is simply a stooge for the communists.

TX-96 on October 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

But he’s an improvement over Geithner in Obama’s eye because the glasses make him look totally smart, dude.

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

H/t Murphy9

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Barky on TV whining and lying yet again.

chewmeister on October 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

I had it on mute, so I stopped to listen. He used that line he incessantly uses about wanting to come to the table about “a whole host of issues.” He likes yakking about hosts.

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

This sounds like something Jay Carney would say. Hmmmmm, I’ve never seen Jay Carney and Jack Lew in the same place.

DaveDief on October 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

The really big question that will never be answered is;

How many people purchased insurance through the Healthcare.gov website since it went live on October 1st?

Bueller

Bueller

MSM = Crickets

D-fusit on October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

“YOU LIE!” Wilson summed up the whole O Administration for eight years in two words!

UnderstandingisPower on October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

I will not comply. Not now, and not 6 months from now.

Meople on October 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

I had it on mute, so I stopped to listen. He used that line he incessantly uses about wanting to come to the table about “a whole host of issues.” He likes yakking about hosts.

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Barky said he’s been willing to negotiate with Pubs from beginning. Didn’t he say last week that he would not negotiate? What a f’ing liar.

chewmeister on October 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Barky on TV whining and lying yet again.

chewmeister on October 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Oh! What about this time?

Those wire coat hangers you get with your dry cleaning (do they really [heart] their customers)?

The guy who takes the last of the coffee at work and doesn’t make another pot?

Pondering what is so new about either Jersey or Hampshire.

The guy is on 60 minutes all the time, I think he’s trying to be the next Andy Rooney.

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 1:18 PM

“Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”

What a blithering idiot. Urban Elitist/Libfreeordie and any other idiot that supported this will be thinking the exact same thing by this time next year.

JAGonzo on October 7, 2013 at 1:18 PM

ObamaCare could get quickly bogged down in the dreaded death spiral of costly enrollees when it goes into effect in January.

Wasn’t that the plan?

Johnnyreb on October 7, 2013 at 1:19 PM

“Take one pill in the evening.”:

Evaluation of discontinuing treatments hypothesized to be unnecessary in specific populations of older adults or in specific settings, and barriers to such discontinuation among patients and caregivers.

Development and evaluation of novel strategies to improve advance care planning and/or articulation of treatment preferences among older adults.

Development and evaluation of innovative decision aids for seriously ill older patients and/or their proxy decision-makers, such as prognosis calculators and communication of prognosis.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/06/NIH-Offers-Grants-For-Research-On-Palliative-Care-For-Older-Americans

davidk on October 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Evidently letting your best campaign contributors create the web design of the ObamaCare portal wasn’t a good idea.

GarandFan on October 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Why couldn’t Wallace have used the infamous ‘incredibly small’ instead?

h/t John Kerry

Resist We Much on October 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Barky said he’s been willing to negotiate with Pubs from beginning. Didn’t he say last week that he would not negotiate? What a f’ing liar.

chewmeister on October 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

He was for nonnegotiation before he was against it? Or is his distinction still that he won’t negotiate with a gun to his head?

Shifting gears, does Obamacare cover dental care? Or is Obama an anti-dentite?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythrdCsOFJU

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM

WSJ reports only “hundreds have been able to sign up for ObamaCare.

So far, Web-traffic problems are allowing only a small trickle of buyers, said John Gorman, chief executive of Gorman Health Group, an insurance-industry consulting firm with clients selling policies on the exchanges. Large insurers have seen enrollment figures totaling in the hundreds each, said Sumit Nijhawan, chief executive of Infogix Inc., a data-integrity firm that works with such insurers as WellPoint Inc., Aetna Inc. and Cigna Corp.

This won’t affect your private health care…

Terp Mole on October 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

“Take one pill in the evening.”:

Evaluation of discontinuing treatments hypothesized to be unnecessary in specific populations of older adults or in specific settings, and barriers to such discontinuation among patients and caregivers.

Development and evaluation of novel strategies to improve advance care planning and/or articulation of treatment preferences among older adults.

Development and evaluation of innovative decision aids for seriously ill older patients and/or their proxy decision-makers, such as prognosis calculators and communication of prognosis.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/06/NIH-Offers-Grants-For-Research-On-Palliative-Care-For-Older-Americans

davidk on October 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

But, doctor, there’s only one pill in the bottle.

davidk on October 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM

ObamaCare could get quickly bogged down in the dreaded death spiral of costly enrollees when it goes into effect in January.

Get ready for the meme: “The healthy aren’t paying their fair share for health insurance.”

PackerBronco on October 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM

For the liverals reading these comments… PLEASE NEVER VOTE again!

1andyman on October 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Story out of the UK…

As was told to me by my sister:

My sister has a medical condition that periodically means she is in the hospital for treatment, sometimes for more than 10 days. She just informed that the UK govt has issued her what is called ‘maintenance medication’ to ensure that she can ‘self treat’ at home and not need to go to the hospital for her care when she gets sick!!!

How delightful eh!!

Scrumpy on October 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM

I had it on mute, so I stopped to listen. He used that line he incessantly uses about wanting to come to the table about “a whole host of issues.” He likes yakking about hosts.

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Barky said he’s been willing to negotiate with Pubs from beginning. Didn’t he say last week that he would not negotiate? What a f’ing liar.

chewmeister on October 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

You both are missing the full context of coming to the table.

The lazy stupid coward is the most reasonable guy in the world. He’s chomping at the bit to come to the table to talk about a host of issues with the Republicans. But he can’t so long as the GOP is holding the debt ceiling and budget over his head……

This is the point when we are supposed to get all outraged and demand that those mean Republicans pass no-strings-attached legislation funding the government and raising the debt ceiling. In other words, we are supposed to be demanding that Obama get everything he wants without exacting any concessions as a result. And if you think that the lazy stupid coward is going to come to the table and talk about Obamacare or tax reform after he gets what he wants…… Well, I’ve got some beachfront property in AZ you might be interested in buying.

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Lew: Our metric for last week wasn’t how many people could successfully sign up for ObamaCare, or something

D.C.—Where lying comes as natually as the Sun coming up in the morning.

These people are just despicable.

PappyD61 on October 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Get ready for the meme: “The healthy aren’t paying their fair share for health insurance.”

PackerBronco on October 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM

That meme is already here. Remember gay Chad from Chattanooga? He talks of having to pay more for his insurance than he is currently but he’s glad to do it to make Obamacare successful. Nevermind that gay Chad is happy to be enrolled in a plan that will virtually make his pregnancies free (once he gets past the $6000 deductible). In other words he’s happy to be paying for some other person’s baby delivery.

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Scrumpy on October 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Just pop a pill, and don’t call me in the morning :)…

Death Panels!! UK Govt Controlled HC…

You wanna know why they are doing this?

Look to Obamacare and what Medicare is demanding of hospitals here:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/09/30/medicare-fines-over-hospitals-readmitted-patients/1603827/

Sometimes people need more than one visit to cure what ails them?

Scrumpy on October 7, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Ah, the good old days. Things were simpler then. All you’d need for a man like Lew would be a half-dozen men, a sturdy rail, and directions to the nearest town limits…

CaptFlood on October 7, 2013 at 1:50 PM

This won’t affect your private health care…

Terp Mole on October 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

That’s in direct contradiction to a story in the Lexington Hearld Leader on Sunday. Section E lead page: So, there is a demand for health care. The article states that 17,872 applications had been received and that 5,372 individuals and/or families had enrolled in new health care coverage.

I call BS on those numbers. If they were anywhere close to being that good, this would have been all over Good Morning America at 7am this morning.

Johnnyreb on October 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Is there anything behind this guy’s eyes?

rplat on October 7, 2013 at 2:16 PM

More deception.

sadatoni on October 7, 2013 at 2:24 PM

New meaning to “seven megaflops.”

ba da bing

*geeks represent*

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 2:39 PM

I always hate the analogy about software companies and the “updates” that frequently occur. The reason this analogy is bogus is because people aren’t forced to buy their products. When people become frustrated with this, they have the right to end their relationship with the company. With ObamaCare, there is no alternative and they will either have to buy it or pay a fine.

djaymick on October 7, 2013 at 3:00 PM

‘Our metric’…how stupid. All these elite people trying to use big words trying to sound like the smartest and brightest in the room.

Kissmygrits on October 7, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Why the hell is the Treasury Sec talking about medical insurance websites? – forest on October 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Because they are the thugs who are going to enforce the damn, crazy thing.

SC.Charlie on October 7, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Obama SecTreas…a history:

Little Timmy: Tax cheat, but marginally competent;

Lizard Lew: Paid his taxes….

Another Drew on October 7, 2013 at 3:51 PM

My first problem is that Chris Wallace starts that clip with a BIG LIE. Hence, I cannot believe ANYTHING that is said afterwards as I KNOW lieing is permitted.

I notice in the text that Lew claimed there is 6 months to sign up. The LAW says if you are a citizen, you must have insurance by Jan 1.

This means that, according to the Democrats estimates, more than 50 million US citizens must sign up for some component of Obamacare or face the federal consequences.

What will happen when tens of millions of people REFUSE to obey the law? Those that think the IRS can follow up on 50 million tax returns are just kidding themselves. The IRS depends on millions of people following tax laws and can never justify the costs of that many issues and lawsuits.

Of course, once tens of millions of people start fighting ANNUALY with the IRS, it is the IRS that will FAIL as a viable tax collecting agency.

Freddy on October 7, 2013 at 5:32 PM

What’s unprecedented is the president refusing to negotiate

pwned

“Do you not know how many have signed up … or is it that the number is embarrassingly small?”

And again.

Bad day for Jack Lew.

There Goes the Neighborhood on October 7, 2013 at 6:18 PM

I always hate the analogy about software companies and the “updates” that frequently occur. The reason this analogy is bogus is because people aren’t forced to buy their products. When people become frustrated with this, they have the right to end their relationship with the company. With ObamaCare, there is no alternative and they will either have to buy it or pay a fine.

djaymick on October 7, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Software updates are for a system that already works. Obviously the wrong analogy for these exchange web sites.

There Goes the Neighborhood on October 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM

What will happen when tens of millions of people REFUSE to obey the law? Those that think the IRS can follow up on 50 million tax returns are just kidding themselves. The IRS depends on millions of people following tax laws and can never justify the costs of that many issues and lawsuits.

Of course, once tens of millions of people start fighting ANNUALY with the IRS, it is the IRS that will FAIL as a viable tax collecting agency. – Freddy on October 7, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Mark my word, the IRS audit system will utterly collapse.

SC.Charlie on October 7, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Jack Lew sounds just like all of the other incompetent software support personnel:

Any problems are YOUR FAULT.

You need to update your software.

Next you need to update your hardware.

Microsoft invented this tactic, but Lew is really clumsy at this. Maybe he should take a refresher course before attending another news conference on behalf of the Spite House.

landlines on October 7, 2013 at 7:54 PM

H/t Murphy9

Schadenfreude on October 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Wow — thanks for the information.

AesopFan on October 7, 2013 at 10:21 PM