Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on October 6, 2013 by Allahpundit

House Speaker John Boehner says he wasn’t pulled into demanding concessions from Democrats to keep funding the government – he willingly joined with fellow Republicans…

Boehner had expected that the Obamacare fight would come during the next vote to raise the debt ceiling, “but, you know, working with my members, they decided, let’s do it now,” he said. “And the fact is, this fight was going to come, one way or another. We’re in the fight. We don’t want to shut the government down. We’ve passed bills to pay the troops. We passed bills to make sure the federal employees know that they’re going to be paid throughout this.”

“You’ve never seen a more dedicated group of people who are thoroughly concerned about the future of our country,” he said of House Republicans. “It is time for us to stand and fight.”

***

The congressman began with an anecdote from the Civil War. “I would liken this a little bit to Gettysburg, where a Confederate unit went looking for shoes and stumbled into Union cavalry, and all of a sudden found itself embroiled in battle on a battlefield it didn’t intend to be on, and everybody just kept feeding troops into it,” the congressman said. “That’s basically what’s happening now in a political sense. This isn’t exactly the fight I think Republicans wanted to have, certainly that the leadership wanted to have, but it’s the fight that’s here.”…

[T]he lawmaker thought Senate Democrats, and Majority Leader Harry Reid, would make some sort of concession on a lesser aspect of Obamacare. “I do think, though, when Boehner sent over delay and [repeal of the] medical device tax, I think he thought he’d probably get back medical device, and that would have probably been enough right there,” the congressman said. But Reid and the Democrats steadfastly refused to consider any change to Obamacare, surprising Republicans again. “When [Boehner] didn’t get medical device, I think he did something he didn’t want to do, which was send over the member health care [the Vitter amendment barring Congress from receiving special subsidies on the Obamacare exchanges]. And I think he did that largely because he thought [Democrats] were trying to jam him.” When Boehner lowered his demands to include a delay for just the individual mandate — not for all of Obamacare — Republicans thought Democrats would be open to that more modest proposal.

“Instead, it’s no, we’re not going to negotiate, we’re not going to negotiate, we’re not going to negotiate,” the lawmaker said. “Which means effectively you’re going to try to humiliate the Speaker in front of his conference. And how effective a negotiating partner do you think he’ll be then? You’re putting the guy in a position where he’s got nothing to lose, because you’re not giving him anything to win.”

***

“Republicans have figured out a strategy, by sending rifle-shot bills to open different parts of the government, that has put Democrats into a box of saying no. By voting no repeatedly it allows Republicans an excellent messaging opportunity of painting Democrats as refusing to negotiate,” says Ron Bonjean, a top GOP strategist.

A number of Republicans who have talked to House leadership in recent days say privately they largely stumbled into the strategy, and that there is no plan for how to end the shutdown…

Kristen Soltis Anderson, a GOP pollster whose company counts Boehner as a client, agreed that the GOP’s messaging challenge is “very tough.”…

“That’s the best case for Republicans, to be saying they’ll compromise and Democrats have not. But what’s the endgame?

***

“We are in the midst of a battle,” Cruz said. “Their position is untenable right now.”

Cruz, who spoke without notes for nearly an hour, said Republicans would win the shutdown fight but offered little in the way of concrete solutions.

“How do we win?” he asked. “If you trust the media, if you trust the voices in Washington, if you even trust, god forbid, some of the elected Republicans in Washington, they say we can’t win this fight. The only way to win this fight is the way we won every other fight throughout the history of the republic, which is solutions don’t come from Washington, D.C., they come from the people.”

“Career politicians in both parties have gotten us into this mess,” he said. “But it’s going to be the American people who get us out.”

***

Backstage, a source said, Cuccinelli urged Cruz to work with Democrats to end the federal shutdown. But he did not make that point, or even acknowledge Cruz, in short public comments to some 1,100 social conservatives.

Cruz has become the face of GOP intransigence, and the conservative attorney general’s effort to distance himself from congressional Republicans reflects how damaging Cuccinelli realizes a prolonged shutdown may be for his campaign…

After Cuccinelli finished [his remarks], a pastor from Williamsburg named Mark Morrow praised Cruz for being willing to shut down the government and said many now see him as the most powerful man in the capitol.

“It’s about time that someone in Washington abandons the faulty notion that compromise is the best way to win,” he said.

***

The government shutdown did not happen by accident. It is the latest manifestation — an extreme one by any measure — of divisions long in the making and now deeply embedded in the country’s politics

[I]t also could be a new normal, as confrontation remains commonplace and true compromise rare. Meanwhile, the ideological, cultural and political differences that led to this moment of extreme governmental dysfunction are almost certain to shape elections and legislative battles in the near term…

Some may rightly blame politicians in Washington for behaving badly, but in reality the clashes in the nation’s capital reflect conflicting attitudes and values held by politically active, rank-and-file Republicans and Democrats across the country. Add to that a faction of conservatives in the House who are determined to disrupt business as usual and the current stalemate in Congress becomes almost unavoidable.

The bonds that once helped produce political consensus have gradually eroded, replaced by competing camps that live in parallel universes, have sharply divergent world views and express more distrust of opponents than they did decades ago. Many activists describe the stakes in apocalyptic terms…

“I don’t really see a way out of it in the very short term,” said Alan Abramowitz, a political scientist at Emory University who has written extensively on polarization. “We’re stuck in it. There was a time when it was possible for the parties to work together, because the divide between them was much smaller. Now we’ve gotten to the point where it’s almost impossible.”

***

[Bareknuckle] campaigning has its advantages, as none other than Bill Clinton and Barack Obama (and, yes, George W. Bush) can attest. But winning that way makes governing more difficult.

For starters, those on the losing end aren’t inclined to work in harmony with a president (or a political party) who won in this fashion. Such suspicion can be overcome, as Clinton showed on NAFTA, but only when oiled with the dual lubricants of bipartisanship and compromise—and that’s important: NAFTA was the signature domestic policy initiative of Bill Clinton’s first term. The Affordable Care Act was Obama’s.

That’s a big difference, but there’s an even more fundamental consequence of bare-knuckles campaigning: It’s addictive. Obama won the presidency in 2008 with an aspirational appeal. To retain the presidency, however, he and his lieutenants ran a low and mean-spirited campaign that sought to make Mitt Romney seem an unfit human being, while delegitimizing his political party.

This approach has inevitably spilled over into governing. I understand that the president is frustrated about Republicans’ refusals to fund Obamacare. I share his dissatisfaction. But I also believe a president is obliged by custom, law, and the U.S. Constitution to try and make the best of things. Instead, it seems his administration has tried to make matters worse.

***

The shutdown isn’t a new story. It’s the same story as the demise of sensible gun control legislation, even after Newtown, which was supposed to change everything. It’s the same story as the stalling of immigration reform. It’s all one cancer, sprouting tumors of various sizes. The mass we’ve been staring at over the past week just happens to be bigger and uglier than the ones we beheld in the buildup.

Our federal government doesn’t work, at least not the Congress, not the way it should if we’re going to preserve and pass on the treasure and blessings that were bequeathed to us, not the way it should if we’re going to strut around ceaselessly congratulating ourselves on how exceptional we are. We’re exceptional all right, in that we can’t summon the will, discipline or character to fix even those problems that most of us would like to see addressed. How many Americans doubt that our infrastructure is inadequate and leaves us at a serious global disadvantage? Few, but for all our hand-wringing, little gets done…

Because the system’s the problem. The system’s the illness. We justly congratulate ourselves on what the framers of our Constitution set up, but that doesn’t mean we’re set forevermore. It definitely doesn’t mean we’re in a healthy place now. And I worry that on top of everything else, we’re growing so accustomed to our sickly lot that we’re losing sight of its direness. For all our recurrent brinkmanship, we haven’t tumbled into any abyss. So as we find ourselves on the next cliff, in the next crisis, we trust that John Boehner will snap into action at the last minute; that Democrats will eventually cave; that this, too, shall pass.

It might, because it’s just a symptom. The disease, though, doesn’t go away.

***

He’s looking to the Obama White House to help start the reset: “I would ask them to start saying, ‘I understand that the people on the other side of the table have the best interests of the American people at heart.’ Simply recognize that. Everybody wants to do what’s best for the American public. Those sorts of statements repeated on a regular basis, it’s the start of dialogue. It’s not concession; it’s the beginning of dialogue.”…

But how to do you deal with the hyper-partisan congressional bomb-throwers? “Well it’s like a game of tic-tac-toe with the tantrum throwers,” Voss says. “In tic-tac-toe, if you’re going second, the best you can possibly do is tie—if you play the game. There’s a first-mover advantage. The minute you stop playing that game the first mover advantage goes away. So you don’t play their game at all. That’s the way you respond.”…

But Voss doesn’t believe President Obama is blameless in the current situation. “I see him using a lot of emotional terms as well and that’s never a good sign. The essence of what he’s saying is finger pointing. When you refuse to talk, then you have blinders on…and it happens to be typical thinking of someone who either doesn’t talk at all or completely gives in.” That’s is a decent distillation of Beltway conventional wisdom criticism of President Obama’s negotiating style to date.

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Asked by Stephanopoulos whether that no negotiations means the country will default on its debt, Boehner responded: “That’s the path we’re on. Listen, the president canceled his trip to Asia. I assumed, well, maybe he wants to have a conversation. I decided to stay here in Washington this weekend. He knows what my phone number is. All he has to do is call.”

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Via the Corner.

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Week # 2

Electrongod on October 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

STFU Peter King.
Dead to me.

RovesChins on October 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 38m

Good news for alleged pederast Harry Reid: Shutdown Theater closes Amber Alert system https://twitter.com/JaimieMedley/status/386991318833979392

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Did Barky get his 18 holes in today?

I know he doesn’t have time for Asia, those 14 hour flights are such a waste of time. And it freed up the weekend for a few extra rounds.

President Jerk-off.

fogw on October 6, 2013 at 8:10 PM

STFU Peter King.
Dead to me.

RovesChins on October 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Shaddap. He was never alive to you.

Come to think of it, I don’t think he was ever alive period.

Lanceman on October 6, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Did Barky get his 18 holes in today?

I know he doesn’t have time for Asia, those 14 hour flights are such a waste of time. And it freed up the weekend for a few extra rounds.

President Jerk-off.

fogw on October 6, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Reggie Love says yes he can!

RovesChins on October 6, 2013 at 8:15 PM

…V@gina King!

KOOLAID2 on October 6, 2013 at 8:16 PM

‘No exit.’

It has been Barrycaded.

Soon, Obama will be using fog machines to obscure the view of whatever is on the other side of the exit.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 8:18 PM

The shutdown isn’t a new story. It’s the same story as the demise of sensible gun control legislation, even after Newtown, which was supposed to change everything.

Only you leftist twits thought it would change everything, and mostly because you were willing to drag the corpses of those lost kids in front of the cameras and use them as props.

Beware the leftist tool who says “sensible legislation”.

Bishop on October 6, 2013 at 8:18 PM

You’re putting the guy in a position where he’s got nothing to lose, because you’re not giving him anything to win.

The Marvel comics tagline to this is:

A man without hope is a man without fear.

Boehner hasn’t gained a spine – he has just been pushed so hard into a corner that he has to stand up. The only way to keep him upright is to continue the pressure.

ajacksonian on October 6, 2013 at 8:19 PM

STFU Peter King.
Dead to me.

RovesChins on October 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Shaddap. He was never alive to you.

Come to think of it, I don’t think he was ever alive period.

Lanceman on October 6, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Unlike Jonathan Ball, 3, and Tim Parry, 12, who were murdered by Petey’s friends in the IRA, the Congresshole is still alive.

I’d gladly exchange Peter King for Jonathan and Tim.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Some 21 House Republicans have said publicly that they’re willing to support a “clean” measure to extend all government funding without other conditions attached, according to ABC News’ count. That’s apparently enough, when added to Democratic votes, to pass a bill out of the House.

But the speaker disputed that notion: “There are not the votes in the house to pass a clean CR.”

Boehner also appeared to back off of private assurances he’s offered colleagues that the nation would not default on its debt. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew has said the nation will run out of ways to continue to pay all of its bills Oct. 17, making an increase in the debt limit an urgent priority

…so?….whose lying?

KOOLAID2 on October 6, 2013 at 8:20 PM

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 38m

Good news for alleged pederast Harry Reid: Shutdown Theater closes Amber Alert system https://twitter.com/JaimieMedley/status/386991318833979392

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 8:06 PM

But, Eric Holder’s Traaaayvon investigation continues apace.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Beware the leftist tool who says “sensible legislation”.

Bishop on October 6, 2013 at 8:18 PM

PayGo was sensible legislation passed by the Together We Thrive™ campaign fundraiser/memorial service democrat party.

Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Time for DJ Egg to spin up a classic David Gilmour tune

There are no answers here,
When you look out, you don’t see it.
There was no promise made,
The part you played, the chance you took.

Steve Eggleston on October 6, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Whoops – missed the post on that tune.

Steve Eggleston on October 6, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Soon, Obama will be using fog machines to obscure the view of whatever is on the other side of the exit.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 8:18 PM

A haunted White House?

Steve Eggleston on October 6, 2013 at 8:24 PM

PayGo was sensible legislation passed by the Together We Thrive™ campaign fundraiser/memorial service democrat party.

Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM

‘Why would any country pay as it goes for government?’

- Jay Carney

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Question: If all government employees, both “essential” and “non-essential” are going to get paid, then why aren’t all government employees required to show up at work and do their job?

Why do the “non-essential” employees get the equivalent of paid vacation time, and why is any government service that does not cost more than its labor cost (for example National Parks) being shutdown?

If we’re paying for the employees, then we should be receiving the services they are paid to provide.

ITguy on October 6, 2013 at 8:27 PM

A haunted White House?

Steve Eggleston on October 6, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Pffft! It already is…

He dwells in the dark like a blood sucking ghoul,
But Dracobama is naught but a fool.

He stamps his feet like a petulant child,
As around the world he is laughingly reviled.

On our WWII vets fear he tried to impart,
But our military heroes drove a stake through his heart.
Against Dracobama no garlic is needed,
As the garden of tyranny soon will be weeded.

You’ll learn Dracobama the American people
Will not cower from you like meek little Sheeple.
Our resolve to defeat you will never soften,
So take your fake fangs and head back to your coffin.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 8:27 PM

‘Why would any country pay as it goes for government?’

– Jay Carney

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Sounds more like Art Carney.

Lanceman on October 6, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Question: If all government employees, both “essential” and “non-essential” are going to get paid, then why aren’t all government employees required to show up at work and do their job?

Why do the “non-essential” employees get the equivalent of paid vacation time, and why is any government service that does not cost more than its labor cost (for example National Parks) being shutdown?

If we’re paying for the employees, then we should be receiving the services they are paid to provide.

ITguy on October 6, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Because teabaggers.

Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Obama won the presidency in 2008 with an aspirational appeal. To retain the presidency, however, he and his lieutenants ran a low and mean-spirited campaign that sought to make Mitt Romney seem an unfit human being, while delegitimizing his political party.

Or in other words, he felt he was “free to be me”, and went back to the kind of vicious, unprincipled, kick-in-the-cojones tactics he always used in Illinois.

Also, The One really does believe that anyone who disagrees with him, even in the slightest, is subhuman and should be destroyed. So again, the second time around, he simply dropped all pretense and went into smiting mode.

Now that he’s safe from any more elections, he’s in Messiah mode. Aka “do as I say or feel my wrath!”

He no longer has to keep up even a pretense of being anything but the churlish, arrogant, egotistical radical he truly is.

The trouble is, he’s a radical whose supporters want more of everything. More radicalism, more “remaking the world”, more “Death to the enemies of the proletariat”, etc.

And even he can’t move fast enough for them.

That probably won’t stop him from trying.

clear ether

eon

eon on October 6, 2013 at 8:29 PM

“I would liken this a little bit to Gettysburg, where a Confederate unit went looking for shoes and stumbled into Union cavalry, and all of a sudden found itself embroiled in battle on a battlefield it didn’t intend to be on, and everybody just kept feeding troops into it,”

And all went so very well for the Progressive forces on Little Round Shutdown until they met the ranks of the 20th Maine, commanded by one, Joshua Lawrence Cruz.

turfmann on October 6, 2013 at 8:29 PM

‘Why would any country pay as it goes for government?’

- Jay Carney, 2013

A mere seven years ago, Democrats used promises of “pay as you go” to win majority control of both houses of Congress.

2006:

Over the past decade, the Republican controlled Congress took our nation in the wrong direction. Too many Americans are paying a heavy price for those wrong choices: record costs for energy, health care and education; jobs shipped overseas; and budgets that heap record debt on our children. For millions, the middle-class dream has been replaced by a middle-class squeeze…

Democrats are proposing a New Direction for America…

With integrity, civility and fiscal discipline, our New Direction for America will use commonsense principles to address the aspirations and fulfill the hopes and dreams of all Americans. That is our promise to the American people….

Our federal budget should be a statement of our national values. One of those values is responsibility. Democrats are committed to ending years of irresponsible budget policies that have produced historic deficits. Instead of piling trillions of dollars of debt onto our children and grandchildren, we will restore “Pay As You Go” budget discipline.

Budget discipline has been abandoned by the Bush Administration and its Republican congressional majorities. Congress under Republican control has turned a projected $5.6 trillion 10-year surplus at the end of the Clinton years into a nearly $3 trillion deficit– including the four worst deficits in the history of America. The nation’s debt ceiling has been raised four times in just five years to more than $8.9 trillion. Nearly half of our nation’s record debt is owned by foreign countries including China and Japan. Without a return to fiscal discipline, the foreign countries that make our computers, our clothing and our toys will soon be making our foreign policy. Deficit spending is not just a fiscal problem – it’s a national security issue as well.

Our New Direction is committed to “Pay As You Go” budgeting – no more deficit spending.

2007:

After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: pay-as-you-go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.

- New Speaker Nancy Pelosi, 01/04/2007

ITguy on October 6, 2013 at 8:32 PM

The Irish Republican Army’s biggest fan said what?

annoyinglittletwerp on October 6, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Because teabaggers.

Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 8:28 PM

I already mentioned Reggie Love. He prefers calling it playing spades.

RovesChins on October 6, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Will this devastating government shutdown mean that we will stay on daylight savings time as we won’t be able to afford to turn our clocks back? Will Obama have anyone who does turn his clock back arrested?

VorDaj on October 6, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Will this devastating government shutdown mean that we will stay on daylight savings time as we won’t be able to afford to turn our clocks back? Will Obama have anyone who does turn his clock back arrested?

VorDaj on October 6, 2013 at 8:37 PM


Behold, your snark!

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The National Vulnerability Database and the NIST Internet Time Service web sites will continue to be available. A limited number of other web sites may also be available.

Notice will be posted here (www.nist.gov) once operations resume. You may also get updates on NIST’s operating status by calling (301) 975-8000.

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Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 8:39 PM

2007:

After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: pay-as-you-go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.

- New Speaker Nancy Pelosi, 01/04/2007

ITguy on October 6, 2013 at 8:32 PM

…and EVERYONE has forgotten that!…thanks for the remembrance!

KOOLAID2 on October 6, 2013 at 8:41 PM

“This isn’t exactly the fight I think Republicans wanted to have, certainly that the leadership wanted to have, but it’s the fight that’s here.”…

(waves hand) “This isn’t the hill you’re looking for.”

Dongemaharu on October 6, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Obama is the enemy within.
The only negotiation I would have with him would involve where and under what circumstances he were incarcerated.

justltl on October 6, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Will this devastating government shutdown mean that we will stay on daylight savings time as we won’t be able to afford to turn our clocks back? Will Obama have anyone who does turn his clock back arrested?
VorDaj on October 6, 2013 at 8:37 PM

I hear Obama has barricaded time, so it shouldn’t be a problem.

Dongemaharu on October 6, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Did Barky get his 18 holes in today?
I know he doesn’t have time for Asia, those 14 hour flights are such a waste of time. And it freed up the weekend for a few extra rounds.
President Jerk-off.
fogw on October 6, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Yeah yeah yeah, and if he’d gone to Asia you’d still be saying the exact same things and somehow that would have been wrong.

Genuine on October 6, 2013 at 8:45 PM

In case you need instruction, this gov website is open: http://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Obama is the enemy within.
The only negotiation I would have with him would involve where and under what circumstances he were incarcerated.
justltl on October 6, 2013 at 8:42 PM

And you sound EXACTLY like a liberal under George Bush.

Genuine on October 6, 2013 at 8:46 PM

And you sound EXACTLY like a liberal under George Bush.

Writing plays and movies about his assassination?

Nah you leftists own that.

Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Obama is the enemy within.
The only negotiation I would have with him would involve where and under what circumstances he were incarcerated.
justltl on October 6, 2013 at 8:42 PM

And you sound EXACTLY like a liberal under George Bush.

Genuine on October 6, 2013 at 8:46 PM

And you sound EXACTLY like a liberal under hussein obama.

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 8:52 PM

More Maher same ol’, same ol’: http://twitchy.com/2013/10/06/spoiler-warning-bill-maher-trolls-ted-cruz-over-gravity-isnt-funny/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 8:43 PM

…like Shad said earlier…I’ve never said I’ve appreciated your links…but I do… too!

KOOLAID2 on October 6, 2013 at 8:54 PM

…like Shad said earlier…I’ve never said I’ve appreciated your links…but I do… too!

KOOLAID2 on October 6, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Thank you. I appreciate the feedback. Sometimes I worry if I’m just bothering people.

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 8:56 PM

He shut down the Amber Alert website – seriously?

It cost more to put the cones up at Mount Rushmore than it probably does to run that website in a year.

What a horrible horrible horrible man.

gophergirl on October 6, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Obama gave $445,000,000 to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting…after the shutdown.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Half a billion dollars for the government propaganda machine but no dollars for dying children.

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Half a billion dollars for the government propaganda machine but no dollars for dying children.

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 8:58 PM

It’s called ‘compassion’ in the Age of Obama.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 8:59 PM

A Country Founded by Geniuses but Run by Idiots
Attributed to Jeff Foxworthy:
If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but
not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might
live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or
to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you might
live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you MUST show your identification to board an airplane, cash a
check, buy liquor, or check out a library book and rent a video, but not
to vote for who runs the government — you might live in a nation that
was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If the government wants to prevent stable, law-abiding citizens from
owning gun magazines that hold more than ten rounds, but gives twenty
F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you might live in a
nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but
not one 24-ounce soda, because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make
you fat — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is
run by idiots.
If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl who is confined to a
wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman
in a burka or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head
searched — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but
is run by idiots.
If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions
of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a
nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his
teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class
in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation
that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more
government regulation and intrusion, while not working is rewarded with
Food Stamps, WIC checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing, and free
cell phones — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses
but is run by idiots.
If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to
provide incentives for not working, by granting 99 weeks of unemployment
checks, without any requirement to prove that gainful employment was
diligently sought, but couldn’t be found — you might live in a nation
that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest
big-screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, time shares, a
wall-sized do-it-all plasma screen TV and new cars, and the government
forgives his debt when he defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a
nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If being stripped of your Constitutional right to defend yourself
makes you more “safe” according to the government — you might live in a
nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

VorDaj on October 6, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Four American soldiers were killed by a bomb today in Afghanistan.

On the ‘bright side,’ they won’t ever become ‘worthless vets’ according to Brayam.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Steve Eggleston on October 6, 2013 at 8:23 PM

What do you hear??..:)

Dire Straits on October 6, 2013 at 9:04 PM

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 8:56 PM

No, you are good, and your yeoman work is appreciated…

OmahaConservative on October 6, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Four American soldiers were killed by a bomb today in Afghanistan.

On the ‘bright side,’ they won’t ever become ‘worthless vets’ according to Brayam.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Brayam the C#nt.

RovesChins on October 6, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Four American soldiers were killed by a bomb today in Afghanistan.

On the ‘bright side,’ they won’t ever become ‘worthless vets’ according to Brayam.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Obama will see them next memorial day.

Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Pssst .. shhhh … God is good, all fhe time !

That is all .. carry on.
:-)

pambi on October 6, 2013 at 9:06 PM

The Constitution? That’s old school. We’re new school man.”

Signed, the keyser sose administration

can_con on October 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I saw a pumpkin today that was bigger than 2 Twerps.

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCJFTBe039Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpCJFTBe039Q%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata_player

Jus sayin.

Blessings upon all who enter QOTD .. yeah, even trolls .. LOL.

pambi on October 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Four American soldiers were killed by a bomb today in Afghanistan.

On the ‘bright side,’ they won’t ever become ‘worthless vets’ according to Brayam.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 9:03 PM

In the future when their families want to visit the Afghan War memorial in D.C. there is an even chance it will have been shut down by a demorat protesting something.

Bishop on October 6, 2013 at 9:09 PM

OmahaConservative on October 6, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Good evening OC..:)

Dire Straits on October 6, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Someone needs to get JustTheFactsPersonalImpressions and Genuinely Stupid hooked up ASAP, and then make a reality show out of it! Heck, throw non-nonpartisan into that mix, too, please…

Anti-Control on October 6, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Peter King seems to be the media’s new “go to” RINO. John McCain and Miss Lindsey are gonna get jealous.

bw222 on October 6, 2013 at 9:10 PM

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM

*Error 404*..:)

Dire Straits on October 6, 2013 at 9:10 PM

On the ‘bright side,’ they won’t ever become ‘worthless vets’ according to Brayam.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 9:03 PM

You know there seems to be a pattern with liberals and their dislike of veterans and their service.

Wonder why that is.

gophergirl on October 6, 2013 at 9:11 PM

I saw a pumpkin today that was bigger than 2 Twerps.

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I saw the new “Big Tex” today. His left nostril was bigger than two twerking twerps.

cozmo on October 6, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Pics of the Day: ‘They Need To Get In And Get Out.’

Give Bob a round of applause.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 9:13 PM

OmahaConservative on October 6, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Thanks.

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:13 PM

And you sound EXACTLY like a liberal under George Bush.

Genuine on October 6, 2013 at 8:46 PM

And as usual…you said nothing…you post but you say nothing.

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 6, 2013 at 9:13 PM

You know there seems to be a pattern with liberals and their dislike of veterans and their service.

Wonder why that is.

gophergirl on October 6, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Indeed.

We know the answer.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Disclaimer: I’m not a spokesperson for Odor Eaters.

Anyhow, My sneakers were getting stinky so I bought a can of Odor Eaters Spray. It worked instantly. People no longer throw up when I make them smell my sneakers.

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Bishop on October 6, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Barrycades will be original equipment on that memorial.

cozmo on October 6, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Blessings upon all who enter QOTD .. yeah, even trolls .. LOL.

pambi on October 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Matthew 7:6: “Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.”

:)

Anti-Control on October 6, 2013 at 9:14 PM

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I saw the new “Big Tex” today. His left nostril was bigger than two twerking twerps.

cozmo on October 6, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Whoa! Two Twerking Twerps? That’s big dude.

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Pssst .. shhhh … God is good, all fhe time !

That is all .. carry on.
:-)

pambi on October 6, 2013 at 9:06 PM

All the time, God is good.

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:17 PM

That’s big dude.

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Yep, but oddly enough, his boots are so over sized he looks like a dwarf midget little person kid in grownup boots.

cozmo on October 6, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Good evening OC..:)

Dire Straits on October 6, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Hey Mark…

OmahaConservative on October 6, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Bishop on October 6, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Barrycades will be original equipment on that memorial.

cozmo on October 6, 2013 at 9:14 PM

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/10/hah-barrycade-enters-urban-dictionary/

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:19 PM

You know there seems to be a pattern with liberals and their dislike of veterans and their service.

Wonder why that is.

gophergirl on October 6, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Indeed.

We know the answer.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Yes we do…

OmahaConservative on October 6, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Anti-Control on October 6, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Thought of that the second I’d pressed SEND …

How about mercy upon da trolls ?
That’ll work, on THIS side of the cross, yes ?

pambi on October 6, 2013 at 9:20 PM

The Constitution? That’s old school. We’re new school man.”

Signed, the keyser sose administration

can_con on October 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM

The Constitution? That’s old school. We’re new school man.”

Obama does not represent the USA. Obama represents the CPUSA.

ITguy on October 6, 2013 at 9:22 PM

How about mercy upon da trolls ?
That’ll work, on THIS side of the cross, yes ?

pambi on October 6, 2013 at 9:20 PM

How about, “No mercy until there is repentence!” :)

Anti-Control on October 6, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Three card Monte:

Despite selling that $106.291 in new Treasury securities, the net value of extant U.S. Treasury securities did not increase because on the Treasury also redeemed $111.330 billion in maturing Treasury securities. That means the net value of U.S. Treasury securities held by the public actually decreased by $5.039 billion.

However, the cash in the Treasury’s Federal Reserve account declined. At the start of Thursday, the Treasury had $57.533 cash on hand in that account. By the close of business on Thursday, the Treasury had only $24.453 billion cash on hand–a drop of $33.080 in cash.

Even though the net debt held by the public declined by $5.039 billion in Thursday, and the cash reserved declined by $33.080 billion, according to the Daily Treasury Statement, the same statement said the public debt subject to the legal limit set by Congress remained exactly $16,699,396,000,000. The Treasury has said the debt subject to the limit has closed the day at precisely that amount on every day since May 17.

The static $16,699,396,000,000 that the Treasury says the debt subject to limit has maintained every day since May 17 is just $25 million below the legal limit.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/treasury-was-open-business-3rd-day-shutdown-issued-106b-new-debt

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:25 PM

In 3 Days of Shutdown, Gov’t Has Spent $3B on HUD–Same as Without Shutdown

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/3-days-shutdown-govt-has-spent-3b-hud-same-without-shutdown

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Hey gg, at least there is one MN team you can be proud of: the Lynx!

Anti-Control on October 6, 2013 at 9:28 PM

How about, “No mercy until there is repentence!” :)

Anti-Control on October 6, 2013 at 9:24 PM

How about we pray for mercy, UNTIL there is repentance ?
Don’t work without recognizing that.
He’ll take it from there.
:-)

pambi on October 6, 2013 at 9:29 PM

In 3 Days of Shutdown, Gov’t Has Spent $3B on HUD–Same as Without Shutdown

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/3-days-shutdown-govt-has-spent-3b-hud-same-without-shutdown

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:27 PM

In a country that spends that much on “Housing and Urban Development”, how does Detroit happen?

Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Designed to fail: Analysis: IT experts question architecture of Obamacare website

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:29 PM

With the ‘shutdown’ 83% of our bills are being paid.

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 6, 2013 at 9:30 PM

In 3 Days of Shutdown, Gov’t Has Spent $3B on HUD–Same as Without Shutdown

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/3-days-shutdown-govt-has-spent-3b-hud-same-without-shutdown

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:27 PM

In a country that spends that much on “Housing and Urban Development”, how does Detroit happen?

Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Union contracts. The money then gets donated to politicians who then vote for more handouts.

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Bmore (if you check in), I have a job for you:

We need a view of the Statue of Liberty from Manhattan…with Obama-added fog machines so that we can’t even see it.

Resist We Much on October 6, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Designed to fail:

Analysis: IT experts question architecture of Obamacare website

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/05/us-usa-healthcare-technology-analysis-idUSBRE99407T20131005

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Hey gg, at least there is one MN team you can be proud of: the Lynx!

Anti-Control on October 6, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Yeah they are kicking butt.

We tend to excel in sports no one knows/cares about. The Gophers women’s hockey team has won 50 in a row and two national championships. I think it made SportsCenter once and they barely mentioned it.

gophergirl on October 6, 2013 at 9:32 PM

THEY had 3 years to be ready for Obamacare…. what did they do ? Wait til last month to design the web-based system? Sad. Truly sad. Now well-meaning honest Americans may think they have coverage when they don’t..and the Brayams are pissed at us? Who are the real intellectual failures Brayam..?

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 6, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Russia to Grab Pension Money, Temporarily

emphasis added.

MOSCOW–Russia’s government is temporarily seizing $7.6 billion in savings from non-state pension funds while it carries out inspections, a move critics say looks like a “confiscation” aimed at plugging a hole in next year’s state budget.

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev told ministers Thursday that the government needs to check that the money Russians channel to private pension funds is safe. To do this, it will seize 244 billion rubles ($7.6 billion) from non-state pension funds and put them into the state pension fund.

Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Thank you. I appreciate the feedback. Sometimes I worry if I’m just bothering people.

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 8:56 PM

…oh no!…never think that!…RWM…canopfor…Shad…Fallon…and the others that do it (bless their hearts)… are here regularly and we really don’t tell them we appreciate them enough…( a lot of us are here for ‘that’)…they are here giving us sustenance all the time that the MSM won’t give us…we just take it for granted (:-<)… also… from the other people who post…and we shouldn't…we shouldn't have lurkers…we have damn good people here…and there's more out there…registrared!

KOOLAID2 on October 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Caution reigns in Asia as US shutdown drags on, dollar falls

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/07/us-markets-global-idUSBRE96S00E20131007

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM

over

Murphy9 on October 6, 2013 at 9:38 PM

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